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You can get it here, but it's crap and takes up 40+MB of internal storage!! And it's still beta
http://www.mozilla.com/en-US/m/beta.html
it`s Fennec (aka desert fox) and yes it huge and crap
Even moved to SD card it was still about 30MB! It's also unusably slow at the moment, and it doesn't reflow the text either so I doubt it will ever be an improvement on the stock browser.
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flash doesn't work on this, right?
andyb949 said:
Even moved to SD card it was still about 30MB! It's also unusably slow at the moment, and it doesn't reflow the text either so I doubt it will ever be an improvement on the stock browser.
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The size is ridiculous but its definitely not slow for me. The scrolling and zooming are very smooth. The address bar is awkward, you cant type something in without it brining up the whole bookmarks/history stuff, very annoying.
I really like the sync features. Having access to all the bookmarks on my PC is really convenient.
Its lacking a lot of settings and options though.
Overall I like it, but not good enough to replace other browsers yet.
I used it awhile ago, doesn't compare to the stock browser or any of the others for that matter.
Skyfire is no doubt the best.
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remember guys this is still in beta, im sure before we get an rc, mozilla will have an awsome browser
It's good that we android users have choice. But until mozilla fixes the size & optimize the browser its a no go for me.
Last time i checked, it was a resource hog, not as slow as hell but slower than the stock browser and Opera.
Uninstalled it less than 5 miniutes later.
tried it and yes the size is unbelieveable! shall be patiently waiting for them to go out of beta.
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remember guys this is still in beta, im sure before we get an rc, mozilla will have an awsome browser
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Personally, I think this is a long way from being a beta quality release. It's a late alpha/pre-beta at best. I think Mozilla have done themselves a disservice by calling it a beta.
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Dave
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I used it awhile ago, doesn't compare to the stock browser or any of the others for that matter.
Skyfire is no doubt the best.
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skyfire is laggy man.just compare its scrolling with dolphin's.dolphin is smoother than it.
it's slooooooooooow.
So I was really looking forward to getting a galaxy tab, primarily for web browsing. Then I saw this video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MZvCXMARtl0
What is the deal with the stuttering jaggy web browsing experience? Can someone that has a tab let me know if a third party browser can make browsing a little less, bleh?
The Galaxy Tab has Flash running in on the webpage.
Look at 0:08 on the video, you can see on the iPad that there are two bars marked "FLASH" disabled. It's suppose to have the banner for "HTC" on it.
Yeah, flash is SERIOUSLY CPU heavy. In fact that's how apple justifies not using it on any of its mobile devices. On closer inspection, there's more than just two 'FLASH' bars on the iPad, I count at least 4.
If you want it to good THAT fast then turn flash off.
On the other hand, do you look at websites by pinging back and forth on them so fast you can't read the text ? Personally, I scroll slowly down, and only move quickly infrequently when I want to 'go to top' or 'go to bottom'. If you actually read websites, the video doesn't really show off a whole lot. Its not comparing like with like, and its not comparing a real life situation, so it doesn't matter.
I have the tab. Some sites with flash will run just fine.
Others will simply cause the browser to be unusable. I have no explanation to this.
I compare a site that is unusable on the tab with my Droid x and on the droidx the site runs just fine with flash enabled.
Maybe. This is a software issue which is unrelated to flash and can be fixed in a future firmware update.
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I have the tab. Some sites with flash will run just fine.
Others will simply cause the browser to be unusable. I have no explanation to this.
I compare a site that is unusable on the tab with my Droid x and on the droidx the site runs just fine with flash enabled.
Maybe. This is a software issue which is unrelated to flash and can be fixed in a future firmware update.
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Quote possibly. Samsung have been slow to release Froyo for the galaxy, so maybe the flash thing isn't just the Tab, its the architecture. Maybe they can't get the hummingbird GFX to accelerate properly.
I have a Tab since 1 week and yes...the browsing experience is really awful. it's a pain...it's slow in loading pages and VERY jaggy in scrolling.
If I think that it should be one of the best features on the Tab I'm very sad and I really hope that it will be fixed (ad least improved) soon in future releases!
By now I just can't leave my ipad for internet browsing.
It looks like both the SGS and the Tab are suffering from the same issue with the browser.
Samsung will have no choice but to fix this.
Dolphin and Opera
Yes browsing with stock browser is really slow and jaggy. I've installed Opera mini and Dolphin. I use Opera for casual browsing (ie xda) and it's really smooth. When I need flash, or for "difficult sites" or if I have to download with rapidhare etc I use Dolphin (which is almost smooth).
Thank you all for your honest opinions.
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Yes browsing with stock browser is really slow and jaggy. I've installed Opera mini and Dolphin. I use Opera for casual browsing (ie xda) and it's really smooth. When I need flash, or for "difficult sites" or if I have to download with rapidhare etc I use Dolphin (which is almost smooth).
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Dolphin uses the same core lib as the stock browser so it should run the same as stock in terms of speed.
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Dolphin uses the same core lib as the stock browser so it should run the same as stock in terms of speed.
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Didnt know. In practice it's really smoother though!
The webkit browser has a really annoying renderer in general. I dont understand why it needs to lower picture quality whenever you move the image around.
Just look at the way opera mini does it - much faster and better looking! Sadly its buggy and lacking in features, which is why im still using webkit.
Dolphin HD is slightly better (if only because it semi-blocks flash content by default), but it has some annoying ui elements like the giant tab bar, which can be removed but at the cost of being able to click on objects along the top edge of the display.
Ive also tried the ARM7 version of the mozilla fennec nighly builds. It just force closed on me, not even a little looksee
For me Dolphin HD is much smoother beside the fact it doesn't show flash banners where stock one does.
Both of them have been a disappointment WRT flash support.
It isn't that great for sites i visit.
If I open a new tap, I need to zoom in and out to get a picture
is this normal?
No, mine loads fine immediatley.
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No, mine loads fine immediatley.
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strange maybe this evening I'll do a HR
by the way I open the tabs not in front but in background. If I open it in front it will load
I have an AT&T Galaxy Tab, rooted and ran OCLF.
When I load pages like ESPN.com (full site) it is almost unusable. Scrolling takes forever, typing is waaaaaaaay laggy and just completely frustrating.
I have an iPad and their HTML5 version is smooth and has no issues.
I have also noticed this on other full content web sites. Is anyone else having this problem or have any suggestions?
Thanks.
Web browisng is terrible on big sites like ESPN, Engadget,etc, etc. It's almost unusable. I've contacted Samsung and Sprint and made a video even to show them how bad it is. Generic responses of course. If it's not fixed before my 30 days are up I'm returning this thing for an iPad -- I got this for web browsing primarily, and the iPad does it SOOO much better. I don't need Flash THAT bad!
Have you tried setting plugins to on demand in the stock browser or using a different browser like Opera or Dolphin HD?
--Sent from Samsung Tab
Guys please just disable flash/follow raqballs advice.
Those sites are flash heavy that is why they're slow.
download dolphin HD browser...
I noticed that on the stock browser too, it sucks
Dolphin HD is great...same as my ipad pretty much
i don't think i'm browsing heavy flash sites. i tried to use both stock browser and dolphin hd (and compared it to my droid inc) and the tab browses much much slower. not sure what setting i need to change. i'm on wifi so it should be blazing.
Flash sucks, that's really about it. I can't wait until it dies.
I use anything but the built-in browser, and I avoid Flash like its the plague. Dolphin HD isn't half bad.
That said, I found the Flash browsing experience to be a little more sluggish on AT&T and Verizon tabs than it is on my Sprint one. I tested with both ESPN and Engadget. On another forum this was said to be due to bloat, but when I owned both the Verizon and Sprint tabs I could never get the Verizon one to perform as well even with bloat-removal.
I ended up returning my Verizon Tab and keeping the Sprint one, its just a smoother experience, the coverage in my area is the same, and you get unlimited messaging.
I'm not dogging AT&T or Verizon, though, because I own the Samsung Focus and Samsung Fascinate. But something about their Galaxy Tabs seemed off despite having the exact same hardware. YMMV.
Use dolphin hd. Buy the full version, its worth every penny.
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Opera 10.1 works the best.
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Samsung will have to address this issue. period.
I noticed that even some sites without flash lag like hell.
There is a bug somewhere with the or browser lib.
It is even present on the SGS 2.2 browser but it was not present on the SGS 2.1 browser.
For now use Opera 10.1 with 200% zoom enabled. it works the best. very smooth.
Its probably Flash related. I keep the **** off, not even on demand because its such a hog. Its utterly useless on mobile devices.
I personally can't wait until its dead for good & its not ruining my web experience on my devices.
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Use dolphin hd. Buy the full version, its worth every penny.
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What's the difference between the free and the paid version?
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Its probably Flash related. I keep the **** off, not even on demand because its such a hog. Its utterly useless on mobile devices.
I personally can't wait until its dead for good & its not ruining my web experience on my devices.
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Even with flash disabled or 100% removed from the device, it still lags horribly on some web sites.
Get ad free it does the job
Well for me the stock browser keeps on crashing from time to time, tried Mozilla but it seems more sliggish than ever. So i tried the Dolphin HD browser with flas 'on demand' and it seems to work fine! Am also using AdFree to block ads in all apps.
Endgadget and ESPN seems to load pretty fast over wifi and the scrolling and all seems to silky smooth. . .
Am on the stock rom btw though the phone is rooted.
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I use Skyfire and works great
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This is why I never buy anything samsung. Its stuff always seem perfect specs and features wise. Then when you play, you are guarranteed to find some serious bugs which samsung won't fix. Apple's price without the continued support. Unless 1/3 the price or Apple-class out-of-box experience and post upgrading, no point go samsung.
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This is why I never buy anything samsung. Its stuff always seem perfect specs and features wise. Then when you play, you are guarranteed to find some serious bugs which samsung won't fix. Apple's price without the continued support. Unless 1/3 the price or Apple-class out-of-box experience and post upgrading, no point go samsung.
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I think you have a skewed perspective there.
But for the most part I find browsing to be pretty good on the Tab. Keep in mind the stock browser is now rendering a LOT more pixels than your typical smartphone, and is dealing with Flash if you have it enabled.
Could be faster, but it ain't "painful".
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I'm also having the same issue on the website i always browse like dpreview.com there is only two browser that will scroll/browse faster opera or safari.
I don't like how I can't go home on the browser.
I'm pretty pleased with the froyo browser, but I hear others are faster. I tried Mirui browser but was unimpressed. Anything I'm over looking that is faster than the stock browser? Thanks.
I use both dolphin and xscope, both are better than stock imo
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install a few and test
Yeah best to test.
I prefer Dolphin but sine claim its slow ... which is funny because I've tried em all and Dolphin is peferable for me. Stock browser sucks IMO
Clearly is a user thing. Dolphin gets my vote.
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xscope and miren work well for me, if you use facebook and stuff like that skyfire is pretty good to.
Try Miren Browser as well. Worth it for the cost of free.
Miren just plain sucks. Wouldn't load certain pages properly, and was slower than any other browser I've ever used.
It's almost like it doesn't load pages sequentially as they're downloaded, but waits (on a white screen) till it has everything then shows up. Pretty bad technique on a severely bandwidth limited device like a phone, but maybe that could be fixed soon?
What exactly are you guys doing on your browsers to make you think the stock browser is slow? I see no difference between any of them and I've tried them all. For me it depends on the signal strength myphone or WiFi.
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Browser speed have almost no difference. Your internet connection speed is much more different.
Sure speed is involved, but stock browser handling multiple windows is so damn slow when compared to dealing with Dolphin and the tabs. Just the overall handling is smoother. I might consider launching stock browser for a single page .. God forbid I start clicking around and want to pop some tabs / windows. I've tried em all .. Miren seemed decent.l ... simplistic UI but some claimed it faster. Perfect example of connection speed and or outside factors .. it was nit faster than any other browser. It was dragging. I'm used to dealing with multiple tabs so I need to jump and jump between effectively. Quickly. Dolphin does the job ... everything else seems just awkward and or just bad.
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creyc said:
Miren just plain sucks. Wouldn't load certain pages properly, and was slower than any other browser I've ever used.
It's almost like it doesn't load pages sequentially as they're downloaded, but waits (on a white screen) till it has everything then shows up. Pretty bad technique on a severely bandwidth limited device like a phone, but maybe that could be fixed soon?
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I've never had a problem with Miren not loading pages. As far as not showing pages until they're fully downlaoded, I don't see why you think it's bad for "bandwidth limited" device. It loads the page the same speed as the others. It just doesn't display the page until it's ready. Isn't that what opera mini does, too? (That's an actual question. I haven't used it in a long time and don't remember.)
I tried Dolphin for a while, but really wasn't impressed. I don't like all the toolbars or big icons. There's probably a way around that, but I didn't notice a performance difference, and frankly, the stock browser worked fine for me.
But as someone else stated, it's more of a personal preference.
I'd go with dolphin... although i've heard good things about Opera Mini
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I'm pretty pleased with the froyo browser, but I hear others are faster. I tried Mirui browser but was unimpressed. Anything I'm over looking that is faster than the stock browser? Thanks.
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Unrooted Evo thats like peanut butter no jelly or the beach without water.
I've been using Miren for days now and I love it. It really is smooth too once the page fully loads. And with wifi and 4g everywhere that's never a problem
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Is anyone else getting lag when using the keyboard? It usually just happends when i am in the browser.
clandest said:
Is anyone else getting lag when using the keyboard? It usually just happends when i am in the browser.
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Most sites I go to seem fine but XDA in particular, the lag is always present. Not enough to bother me too much though.
True, I am mainly only experiancing it on xda. I might have to use their app.
I'm actually seeing this on a bunch of sites I frequent, this along with some other misc. slowdowns make me anxious for some OS updates... I cannot WAIT for CM and the crew to get going on this thing!
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True, I am mainly only experiancing it on xda. I might have to use their app.
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Do you have to do that on your PC...? Me either.
I am seeing a very annoying lag typing into forums like this (and others). 1-2 second lag - very frustrating!
Using the "about:debug" approach to disable OpenGL Rendering seems to address, but I am not clear what we lose in return.
I am also experiancing lag when typing in the browser. I think USAA and Netflix are the worst sites. I just got my xoom so I'm not sure how it was in the past with 3.0 but I think the browser still needs some work. The force closes in the browser are also annoying.
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i find it worst on this site, but any site to fill in a form is crazy slow for me off and on, there seems to be no rhyme or reason. It makes editting difficult. Arrow keys would be nice. Lol
I do hve some lag on google talk but nothing like in the browser. So you're not alone
Helped reduce the lag
I disabled the Opengl rendering setting and then enabled the Normal rendering on the browser's Debug setting. Disabling the Opengl prevents the browser from properly playing the flash embedded objects though.
I have also been getting the lag on keyboard its very frustrating as its effectively reducing the productivity of a device that's designed to improve it. I am rather disgusted with Motorola for having the balls to release a device with such a fundamental flaw. I have dropped from 60 wpm to a rather disgustingly low 20 wpm! I have heard using a bluetooth keyboard negates this (can anyone confirm this) but I may aswell have purchased a laptop if I wanted a hard keyboard. I have also been having fun with the copy and paste feature when moving the cursor or actually needing to use it lol.
To fix lag follow these instructions:
Go to XDA
Scroll all the way to the bottom
Switch to XDA Classic instead of XDA 2010
Problem solved on XDA website.
As far as other forums I would imagine you could use an older version of their site.
gqstatus0685 said:
To fix lag follow these instructions:
Go to XDA
Scroll all the way to the bottom
Switch to XDA Classic instead of XDA 2010
Problem solved on XDA website.
As far as other forums I would imagine you could use an older version of their site.
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Nice fix for xda but tbh this realy shouldnt be an issue and should have been solved before they released the device to consumers
Same issue with alot of sites. Facebook does alot also. Any real fixes, dolphin, opera etc do it also , I hate this thing
eatonjb said:
Same issue with alot of sites. Facebook does alot also. Any real fixes, dolphin, opera etc do it also , I hate this thing
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I am running a ICS rom and the keyboard doesn't lag. Not a real fix since the ICS roms are not fully functional, but it should provide hope since the ICS update should fix the lag.
sonicaholic said:
Nice fix for xda but tbh this realy shouldnt be an issue and should have been solved before they released the device to consumers
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Who knows. I tan into that fix one day while messing around on the browser. I'm gqstatus0685 by the way.
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this is one of my biggest issues with android ... while we get a lot of extra freedom and other stuff, iOS users dont have to deal with this crap because if something was this bad (typing from my xoom right now) I dont think apple would allow it to leave their hands. I love my xoom, I really do, but even almost a year since release, its still not as good (in terms of everything working like it should) than my mom's ipad 2.... just very frustrating to say the least
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this is one of my biggest issues with android ... while we get a lot of extra freedom and other stuff, iOS users dont have to deal with this crap because if something was this bad (typing from my xoom right now) I dont think apple would allow it to leave their hands. I love my xoom, I really do, but even almost a year since release, its still not as good (in terms of everything working like it should) than my mom's ipad 2.... just very frustrating to say the least
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ICS is the answer. No lag. It's a beautiful thing.
Looking forward to ICS, only the fact the camera is not support stopped me from trying a ROM.
I OWNED a iPad 2, but maybe I am insane because I will never buy Apple products again and even though the Xoom is soon to be dated by the Quad Core Tablets I still find the Xoom better in almost ever way over the iPad 2.
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Looking forward to ICS, only the fact the camera is not support stopped me from trying a ROM.
I OWNED a iPad 2, but maybe I am insane because I will never buy Apple products again and even though the Xoom is soon to be dated by the Quad Core Tablets I still find the Xoom better in almost ever way over the iPad 2.
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I'm running ICS and it has made the browser work wonders I tell you.
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AstroDigital said:
Looking forward to ICS, only the fact the camera is not support stopped me from trying a ROM.
I OWNED a iPad 2, but maybe I am insane because I will never buy Apple products again and even though the Xoom is soon to be dated by the Quad Core Tablets I still find the Xoom better in almost ever way over the iPad 2.
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We don't think you're insane...we know we have the best all around Android tablet currently available.
I can't wait for ICS, but still why does it not work in 3.x.x really.