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okay after doing some hard thinking about my next upgrade and realizing i don't have a ton of money to spend on a real hero phone right now. id love to see one of the devs on here create the first fully functional android rom for our touch vogues. i know i seem to be the one on here who has no luck with most of the builds so far but something keeps bringing me back to android.
so heres the deal, i will offer $50 or more via paypal to the first dev who can make this happen. id like to see others join in and lets make this bounty worthwhile. it would be a ton cheaper for me to just buy another vogue even brand new rather than spend $300 on a hero or other android phone. i may even be willing to donate my old vogue for testing. im also hoping others may join in on this. i see some of the devs have stopped development or will by moving to real android phones. i think the vogue is a solid phone and a rom like this would really keep interest going and the community going strong. hell maybe even xda will give us our own dedicated android section for the vogue if we can do this. also since we have godzon who is very talented at skinning, maybe he can start creating themes we can use on the rom? just a thought but really the possibilities are endless IMO.
so my questions are:
who is up for the challenge?
can this be done legally without google getting upset?
which build should we use as a base? hero, xrom, ion , cupcake or tattoo?
can we root our phones after we create a rom so we can have full potential as a real android phone user?
so i ask you guys to join in with me in making this task/project worthwhile for one of our talented devs on here.
sorry i created another thread on this but lets keep all discussions about this in here from now on.
"forgot to mention, my offer stands until the first week in november. if i don't see any interest or beginning development ill withdraw and cave in and buy a real hero."
thanks, fixxxer
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okay after doing some hard thinking about my next upgrade and realizing i don't have a ton of money to spend on a real hero phone right now. id love to see one of the devs on here create the first fully functional android rom for our touch vogues. i know i seem to be the one on here who has no luck with most of the builds so far but something keeps bringing me back to android.
so heres the deal, i will offer $50 or more via paypal to the first dev who can make this happen. id like to see others join in and lets make this bounty worthwhile. it would be a ton cheaper for me to just buy another vogue even brand new rather than spend $300 on a hero or other android phone. i may even be willing to donate my old vogue for testing. im also hoping others may join in on this. i see some of the devs have stopped development or will by moving to real android phones. i think the vogue is a solid phone and a rom like this would really keep interest going and the community going strong. hell maybe even xda will give us our own dedicated android section for the vogue if we can do this.
so my questions are:
who is up for the challenge?
can this be done legally without google getting upset?
which build should we use as a base? hero, xrom, ion , cupcake or tattoo?
can we root our phones after we create a rom so we can have full potential as a real android phone user?
so i ask you guys to join in with me in making this task/project worthwhile for one of our talented devs on here.
sorry i created another thread on this but lets keep all discussions about this in here from now on.
thanks, fixxxer
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lol most likely the ion build.
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lol most likely the ion build.
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so you up for it zen? im serious here.
wouldn't the tattoo build be the best?
well donut. tattoo still has trouble with force closes on start. some incompatibilities with our ril because of proprietary code. so donut would be a great option once audio gets fully functional. i'm not about to brick my only phone......
zenulator said:
well donut. tattoo still has trouble with force closes on start. some incompatibilities with our ril because of proprietary code. so donut would be a great option once audio gets fully functional. i'm not about to brick my only phone......
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well whatever build you guys think would be best. i just thought this would be a great idea for us vogue users. why buy a android phone when we can have fully functional rom on our vogues? then we could work on rooting, themeing and all that good stuff.
what do you think zen, would you be interested in this? would you need a spare vogue to try this out on? i might be willing to donate mine or hopefully someone else will too. im sure i can pick up a spare vogue for cheap.
I like this idea espcially since us Sprint SERO guys don't have a viable Android option to use as of yet.
I'ld paypal $50 for a version that completely ditches WM off the phone and works well. It doesn't matter which version, once someone pioneers the trial others will follow.
gedster314 said:
I'ld paypal $50 for a version that completely ditches WM off the phone and works well. It doesn't matter which version, once someone pioneers the trial others will follow.
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+1...i really hope this thread doesn't die and i hope a dev will take this offer up.
Already said this in another thread, but I've got a spare Vogue (blacklisted ESN, I think) and, while I'd like to retain possession of it, I will blindly flash whatever a dev puts out for testing.
fixer you should summarize who all are offering what amounts.
I am willing to offer $20 for this!!
bid
if you can make it work, meaning build a rom based on hero or ion, i am willing to give the person 300, which is more than getting a tmobile plan with the my touch which i also do have, but i dont wanna get rid of my vogue, its been so good to me, i have it on metro, and for some reason market dont work when i am in android. still the bounty from my end will be 300 for a flashable android rom
i'd donate $50 as well..... im a huge fan of Android and would like to see this really happen
Before we go over to make a flashable rom we should look to get all hardware working for 100%. At the moment i think the risk to brick your phone is enormous. We should ask some of the spl people if they could help
I suppose it all depends, do you guys still want to have winmo? If not than it's not too terribly far away. Right now I can make my vogue start to boot the linux kernel, it totally wrecks the winmo everytime though. And there are some challenges to overcome..
Dual boot would be too cool, if ever possible....
were up to $470 right now to the first dev to make this possible.
and to mission....were talking about a fully flashable rom like winmo. i don't really see why this cannot be done with some hard work and teamwork. as i said my offer stands until i can get the hero which may be up to a month away yet.
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Dual boot would be too cool, if ever possible....
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not really what were talking about here man. right now technically that's what we already have. android/vogue is nothing more than a program, we want a fully working operating system that can be flashed like real android users can. once again i cannot see why we can't make this happen. ive seen a ton of talented devs on here. i wish i could do even half of what they accomplish.
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Before we go over to make a flashable rom we should look to get all hardware working for 100%. At the moment i think the risk to brick your phone is enormous. We should ask some of the spl people if they could help
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agreed, you devs should get together and discuss this. hell maybe all of you can even split the money. ive posted this thread at a couple other places on the net, im sure the pot will grow.
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I suppose it all depends, do you guys still want to have winmo? If not than it's not too terribly far away. Right now I can make my vogue start to boot the linux kernel, it totally wrecks the winmo everytime though. And there are some challenges to overcome..
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If one was to flash completely to android would one be able to flash back to winmo later or would that option be wiped away with the pure android flash.
Also we need a bootloader like grub for our phones so that we could install multiple os's and choose which one too boot at startup, although that might be easier to do starting from an android phone.
i think that if you want dual boot and all that junk, stick with a computer.
i would like an flashable android ROM to get rid of winMo for good.
i would donate also if it gets done.
Hello all,
This post is meant so we can get to know each other before the dev community gets going. This way we learn what each other's strengths are and can maybe get things going better.
My name is Chuck and I am a well versed XDAer. I came from the HTC Wizard and WinMo and then moved on to the G1. There I learned from guys like JF, Haykuro and, everyone's hero, Cyanogen. I didn't really do any devving there though. I then moved on to the Hero and since we didn't really have any devs I stepped up and learned how to cook roms. Then I learned how to compile AOSP and kernels. I built the Gutted Hero rom, which I eventually abandoned due to time restraints but I know that won't happen here. I am attempting to learn more about linux exploits and gaining root so that hopefully I can help root this beautiful device when it comes today.
So anyone else who wants to please join in and let us know your background.
Hi Chuck!
I'm pretty much a n00b when it comes to the dev environment, but I want to jump in and get my hands dirty I started reading XDA back when the HTC Titan (Mogul) first hit the scenes, but then jumped into a Blackberry... Since jumping, I haven't really looked back into wanting to learn until news of Android... Then mentions of the HTC "Supersonic" coming to a CDMA carrier (I have Sprint btw) and as well as the N1 possibly releasing a CDMA version. That caught my attention and now I really want to learn and jump into developing!
Now I'm trying to read up as much from the different Android forums, but it's all so much... Trying to take it one step at a time. I'm not a complete n00b when technology is involved, as I used to build boxes back in the day of Pentium II/III, AMD T-Bird days, PC Tech for Gateway (when they had stores), and the sorts...
Stinks that the N1 is not coming to Sprint, but I am planning on getting the Evo. Definately wanting and willing to learn as much as I can!
admin over at SDX-developers.com
wrote my own root exploit for the samsung moment on android 2.1
modified/tweaked an open source recovery
with released open source linux kernel 2.6.27 and 2.6.29, compiled many custom kernels
strong suite, linux. decent with java. terrible with being creative like theming.
excited to work together on the EVO!
edit: for those interested - my android 2.1 resume all with the Samsung Moment
Root Exploit for Android 2.1
Online Kitchen
Linux 2.6.29 Android 2.1 Custom Kernel
Hey guys,
Ok, i have background what so ever... But im slowly learning java so i can start coding and so on with android. So basically my cup is empty...
just wanted to say hi !
Oh and another thing i wanted to add, I was always the guy that devs get files and stuff to for testing and made guides on how to install things and so on ^.^
side note
Themer
Well this is a nice way to meet each other and see what we can assist each other with. I began with editing files, back in the Apache the small fridge looking device . I've been in the windows scene for about 3-5 yrs or so and modded, and mostly created themes. In that time frameI learned to edit manila files,make cabs, and learned how to edit all different software ui apps, windows, and shell. The Vogue had the android files arranged and worked with to use in the sdcard and have the android working with it working I found out how to edit files and do some soft modding. I then learned how to theme but with family and biz I've still got the need to sit down and learn to package, and the rest of the guru qualities as some of you may have. Here is a thread I've begun as I did with the Hero for all creations, mods, themes etc to be shared. I've enjoyed learning and being a part of XDA, looking forward to the fellowship. I've begun editing the Evo files and created some clock's and will continue with rosie, taskbar and apk's you can view it here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=685537
Apache-Mogul-Vogue Touch-TouchPro-Hero-Evo soon
Thanks to you all that played a part in rooting, roms, modding and making it possible for themers to give it a touch of class to share with everyone as you have with your work.. Thank you
Good idea for a thread.
I'm Justin--but it's easier to go by Shidell--and I'm moving over from the Vogue community. Within the last two years I've gotten serious about development, and have a strong .NET background with a (growing) C/C++ background. However, linux is still pretty foreign to me, which makes development on that platform somewhat challenging.
With the Vogue, I compiled my own build of Eclair for it from AOSP, and worked with Dzo, mssmison, jnadke (and others, all the names evade me right now) on updating/fixing the GPS library.
I'm fairly clueless when it comes to the bootloader, the kernel, how one would go about exploiting either to achieve root (or even how to go about doing so), but I'm eager to learn and help.
I plan on keeping my Vogue and continuing to learn by using that as a test device for more serious ambitions (kernel development/flashing, etc.) But I'll be actively involved in this community as well. Please feel free to ping me with questions, requests for assistance, etc.
(Also, I do have an Evo via Google I/O, so if you're looking for data a bit early, I'd be glad to help.)
Hello all- I have no experience with this stuff at all other rooting & running different roms/hacks on my former devices (g1 & mt3g) so I was debating whether to even post this here...however I am very interested in learning as much as I can about everything mentioned above & more- it is fascinating to me!
So any suggestions on where to start learning (books/links/etc)?
6/4/10 can't get get here soon enough!
tester here
i am willing to begin testing you may send me a pm and we can discuss over gtalk.
i have years of experience of flashing my phone numerous times back in the ppc6700 days and have had a moment since january and always flashing off sdx and am glad to be back on xda! hit me up ill work with you and tell you what bugs i find etc after i know your phone wasnt bricked
Hello, im a loyal follower of joeykrim from sdx-developers. No experience in writing or creating, but MORE than willing to be a test dummy, guide writer, as i can be quite explicit (the good kind), or a noob helper. pm me and i can get you my email address, phone number, or we can chat through facebook. not currently using any other methods of communication but im willing to switch to anything else more universally accepted by these fine forums.
EDIT: joined xda because the evo is coming out, and i hear this is THE place for htc devices. want to give all the assistance i can
My name is Dan, though I also go by Q. I got an EVO at Google I/O, and want to get it rooted while I still can (an NDA may get in the way soon)
I've been hacking on Linux for 8 years now, and know the entire system very well. I'm also not particularly afraid to solder (which is unfortunate, because I'm also not particularly good at it), so that may be an option. I also have a Droid and a Google ION.
I'm a jack-of-all-trades. I know some C, mediocre C++, C# expert, some java (easy to pick up), php, vb.net, etc. I know hardware, but not embedded stuff. I'm the geek that other computer geeks come to. You get the idea.
But, what skills are you using to modify the Android kernel? Do I need to know assembly? C++? I know I need to know C and the Linux kernel, but how much of the kernel do I need to know? Beginner, so-so, professional, expert? Do I need to know embedded Linux specifically? Do I need to know Linux drivers?
Just point me into the right direction, thanks!
I currently have the G1 from 2 years ago. I'm put my deposit down, and getting my EVO on 6/4/2010. I look forward to learning from you guys.
im well... toastcfh been through a lot with linux for sure. it all started with my old Dell Axim X50. i began working on linux for that device before android was a real deal. then i got a HTC Diamond and did a lot of kernel work for the support of linux on it and other HTC devices. got my HTC Heroc by a streak of luck and smooth talking for free (sprint can be dumb) . anyhow, on the Heroc i managed to be a big part of root,porting and development for it. the main things im known for is my work on Eclair for the Heroc and more recently my port of Eris 2.6.29 kernel source to the Heroc. creating my own board files through a lot of creative debugging and previous struggles with backporting drivers from .29 to .27. at the moment its the only .29 source for the Heroc as Sprint/HTC hasnt even released the .29 source for the device yet. also my work with overclocking the Heroc, but those are just notable contributions to the community ive made. im also the kind of person that is willing to help almost anyone. ask anyone whose ever asked for my help. i believe in the idea of open source and helping others. i also believe in giving credit where credit is due. or at least giving it the boyscout effort anyhow i cant promise ill be ablee to make ur EVO turn into a skynet and cleanup the oil spill in the Gulf. but i can promise that ill damn sure try. im not one to be told it cant be done, nor will i ever except that statement unless it can be proven without a shadow of a doubt (btw its pretty hard to prove to me )
anyhow im looking forward to root, as we need that first and for most. im happy to know we got some awesome devs here and coming soon.
as a single developer i am nothing. but together we can have everything.
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im well... toastcfh been through a lot with linux for sure. it all started with my old Dell Axim X50. i began working on linux for that device before android was a real deal. then i got a HTC Diamond and did a lot of kernel work for the support of linux on it and other HTC devices. got my HTC Heroc by a streak of luck and smooth talking for free (sprint can be dumb) . anyhow, on the Heroc i managed to be a big part of root,porting and development for it. the main things im known for is my work on Eclair for the Heroc and more recently my port of Eris 2.6.29 kernel source to the Heroc. creating my own board files through a lot of creative debugging and previous struggles with backporting drivers from .29 to .27. at the moment its the only .29 source for the Heroc as Sprint/HTC hasnt even released the .29 source for the device yet. also my work with overclocking the Heroc, but those are just notable contributions to the community ive made. im also the kind of person that is willing to help almost anyone. ask anyone whose ever asked for my help. i believe in the idea of open source and helping others. i also believe in giving credit where credit is due. or at least giving it the boyscout effort anyhow i cant promise ill be ablee to make ur EVO turn into a skynet and cleanup the oil spill in the Gulf. but i can promise that ill damn sure try. im not one to be told it cant be done, nor will i ever except that statement unless it can be proven without a shadow of a doubt (btw its pretty hard to prove to me )
anyhow im looking forward to root, as we need that first and for most. im happy to know we got some awesome devs here and coming soon.
as a single developer i am nothing. but together we can have everything.
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yes! youre getting an evo 4g! we're going to have a nice group of devs here ..i having a feeling toast is going to be the one to port froyo
Cheers to all the great devs speaking out. I've been watching the android game from the sidelines since the G1... I've been a palm loyalist for the longest time, but I'm finally dropping the Pre to jump onthe EVO.
Can't wait to get into customs roms (bleh to Sense, hoping for vanilla froyo).
I'll be everyone's testpig, I promise
Hey guys, I'm Kyle. Currently a computer science major at Berkeley. I haven't really messed around with Android before, but I attended I/O and received an Evo. I really want to get this thing rooted, but I have no idea where to even start. If anybody has some pointers, that would be great.
Happy hacking
Adam / apristel - Live in Green Bay, WI, 15yr computer tech, mostly windoze and linux.
Started phone hacking when the RAZR came out. I helped get modmymoto.com going and spent alot of time being a mod there. I also created some very popular roms aka monsterpacks for the GSM V3 RAZR, then moved to the V6 MAXX....few years later got onto the WM Scene, got a TP and eventually a TP2. I made personal roms, never shared them, but I shared tons of hacks and cabs I made. I got sick of WM and got a moment and a hero. ..now the EVO in a few days.
I'm willing to put in what I can, I know I'm not at the level of you linux pro's but I'm not scared to try anything.
Glad to see familiar names here - this should be an exciting time. Glad to share it with you fellas.
Welcome me in!
I've done a lot of themes for HTC devices throughout the years. I've owned mainly windows mobile devices, such as i930, Apache, Titan, Touch Diamond, Touch Pro, and the Touch Pro 2. I've always been flashing ROM's and helping ROM dev's with hexing things, changing some layouts here and there, registry edits and of course testing it before it went public. I also host all this stuff online for free since I HATE countdown sites for a download.
I helped with MightyROM themes and we had over 7TB of data pulled from the servers, which is pretty amazing, but I'm all Android now!
I hope to learn Android quickly and hope that some of my tools will also work with it. I have good hosting capabilities if a dev needs it, and I'm more then willing to help. I've done work for over 10+ cooks, on over 8 different devices since 2003.
Background: BSCE, Machine Language on MIPS, x86 / arm / mot / att assembly, C/++ on Posix and Win32. PIC / HC11 system design. GCC cross compiling. Have a JTAG, digital storescope, and an HP protocol analyzer. Been using Linux exclusively at home since '99.
Projects:
- Open source contributor on a few Linux projects (mainly device driver / interface development)
- Helped with the Agenda Vr3 (Snow rom)
- Hacked around with the IPAQ Linux (hardware and software)
- Helped with the Zaurus FBVnc effort
- Helped with the IOpener hack / USB problems
- Helped with the EPOD Windows CE hack / drivers
- Helped with various efforts on the Palm Pre
Future Projects:
- Root (someone will probably beat me to this)
- WebKit over HDMI (not sure where it stands on launch day)
- BT HID Keyboard (sounds like we need some back porting here)
- BT HID Mouse (virgin territory from what I have seen)
- Video recording bitrate (fun project on the side)
The EVO is my first android phone, not my first HTC though. So hopefully I can help a little bit here and there.
Hello,
I work with a small company and develop everything from boards to firmware to full-blown desktop applications for interfacing with different sensors and devices.
I've started at both ends of the computer world and am working my way towards the middle. On one hand I know my way around assembler (although I prefer C...) and write firmware for AVRs and PIC microcontrollers and on the other I'm a fluent .Net developer and have built some pretty complex .Net applications, some PHP applications, and fiddled around with the Google web toolkit.
I've reverse engineered hardware before but nothing close to the complexity of the EVO. I've never developed for Android before but I'm eager to break out the SDK and learn. I have some limited Java experience (my philosophy is once you know one managed language you know them all and I have some extensive experience with it's cousin, C#).
Very eager to start tearing into the EVO and Android system and see if I can't contribute to the effort to root and expand this device!
I've never been a huge contributor to a community effort but I hope to change that in the coming years and see if I can't contribute something back to the communities I have learned so much from!
I'll be getting my EVO June 4th
Relative rookie here in terms of mobile devices. I've put together a few custom WinMo ROMs for co-workers and myself. I've quite a few devices, but currently have the ones in my sig. I'm a professional computer geek. I write apps in C++, various .NET, PHP, etc. and work primarily with server systems (Windows, Linux, Solaris, etc.).
Looking forward to contributing to the Android world soon. Lots of great stuff here.
I know this device hasn't been officially released yet, but we do have the source code from Samsung and Froyo source code from Google. I was thinking about starting up a dev team to start cooking up ROMS for the Vibrant if you are interested send me a pm on here, and we can get things started. I'll admit I am a little rusty on my Java, but it shouldn't take me no time to learn it again.
May be jumping the shark a little. Has anyone found a consistant way to gain root?
Not yet, but on the 15th, I'll be working on it when I get the phone
Excellent start I have the nexus one as my daily but I am ordering this phone on the 15th as well.
I will also have the phone on the 15th and if any help or testing is needed Ill be more than glad to help...
Alright cool, I am reviewing my Java, and I am coming from the Droid to this phone so this should be exciting to hopefully start up a small community of people to help me with cooking up ROMs for this phone
Is knowing Java the only requriement for being able to create your own custom roms? I'm learning it now in hopes to make my own apps, but I thought you needed to know C and be well-versed in linux stuff like kernel programming to be able to make your own custom roms.
Im in for the dev team =)........Im coming from the mytouch 3g
According to what I can find on source.android.com the only examples of code that they have on there are Java base
I am game. I dont have a boat load of time, but I am going to try to get CM6 built for this phone. I want Froyo ASAP. Also I would like to get CM6 on there with some of the other goodies that the phone has such as extra video codec playback. Anyway here is a link on how to build CM that can help jump start everyone.
http://wiki.cyanogenmod.com/index.php?title=Building_from_source
Edit: Java and depending on what you are doing C. The kernels do require heavy hacking if you want to really mess with it, but in most cases all you have to do is build it and link in the proper drivers.
Note: I have never done any of this it is just what I have gathered over the time of owning my G1 since launch day.
3g,4g FFC is it important?
My G1 is now fu-bar and t-mobile is replacing it with the moto click. I don't no if that is better or worst but it has more ram. Anyway I was not sure if not having a FFC or flash is important but it seems to me that whether the vibrant will handle the 4g speeds or not is. I so what a high end phone but I can't afford to buy one every 6 months. I hope that as people get the vibrant someone will be able to take a peak inside of it to see if maybe t-mobile has the FFC in it but just covered it up with a front case that hides it. Wouldn't that be something, ya right. So I'll wait for a while to see all the real reviews on the phone. Id hate to pay all that money just to find that in a few months or even next year t-mobile completes there so called 4g and I can't take advance of it. I don't no if the hspa + or what ever its called is just a matter of software updates or not. I don't really have a question just rambling.
I too am CHOMPING at the bit to get the Vibrant.
Going from Rooted CyanoGen6RC1 G1 Dream.
I'll be in for help testing proven root access, applications, and alternative ROMs from 0-Day.
Man I can't wait to be the envy of my entire IT team.
They can take their iPhone4s and stick em up their collective MacFag asses!
hey guys I'm down to join the dev team. I haven't done much Java since college (8 yrs back) but I program in C/C++ daily on my job. I haven't done the kernel stuff but I'm more than willing to learn that and brush up on my Java as well.
I'll be getting the phone on the 15th as well.
Thanks for all the interest in this phone. For those of you planning on building CM6 for this phone, that is where I was planning on starting.
Just to let everyone know that I will mainly be doing this after 4:30 P.M. PDT, and weekends since I am active duty marine corps, and stationed out here in California. My job in the Marines requires me to know how to do some of the coding necessary for this.
I was planning on starting up an IRC channel, probably tonight, and anyone that is interested can meet up there and we can talk about things. I will make a post here, android central, and probably the cyanogen forums when I get everything started.
I'm excited to be doing this, and again thanks for all the interest.
count me in for some basic programming, I'll help where I can, but between school and work idk how much that will be. I will definitely be getting my Vibrant on the 15th, and I have built froyo from source before just to see if I could get that setup no problem.
I have experience in c++ and java, so hopefully I'll be of some use. but kernel work is definitely new to me
Im game for a IRC channel. Let me know and Ill try to Idle when I can. I would be working on it late night EST time so we might jive.
Hmmm
If anyone needs testers pm me cause I am dying to get into deving for this phone. I don't know how to code or anything, but I do know basics. Owned a G1/MT3G/Cliq and hacked the hell out of all of them. Should be ordering my Vibrant right now with UPS 3 day. But seriously, I'd love to test once everyone gets their roms cooked up
its nice that Samsung is giving us source so quickly. I'm already in love with my Vibrant. I have plenty experience with kernel compilation and complete ROM cooking from source. We need a Vanilla ROM for this beast of a phone
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its nice that Samsung is giving us source so quickly. I'm already in love with my Vibrant. I have plenty experience with kernel compilation and complete ROM cooking from source. We need a Vanilla ROM for this beast of a phone
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Nice to see you back here. Haven't seen you aroound since the Drizzy days.
Not sure if I want to root yet or not. If I do I can do testing and help with kernel, little rusty with the kernel though.
had a g1 just got my vibrant this morning.
Sent from my SGH-T959 using XDA App
http://www.androidcentral.com/android-30-sdk-preview-2d-3d-graphics-and-dual-core-support-honeycomb
Any one insane enough to try a quick and dirty port?
An SDK port of an unreleased tablet-only OS sounds like a major waste of time to me.
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An SDK port of an unreleased tablet-only OS sounds like a major waste of time to me.
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They did it with the SDK of Gingerbread, and this one will earn the devs some serious props (and mentions from virtually every tech site, I presume).
That might just be me, though. I'd certainly like to see it happen, no matter how unstable or unusable it might be.
I think the port would be more a case of. LOOK WHAT I CAN DO, then any thing else.
(Have a peek at www.twitter.com/blackal1ce , I'm posting up screenshots from the REALLY slow SDK)
M-en-M said:
They did it with the SDK of Gingerbread, and this one will earn the devs some serious props (and mentions from virtually every tech site, I presume).
That might just be me, though. I'd certainly like to see it happen, no matter how unstable or unusable it might be.
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They started porting it - as they did with every release before - and got fed up after a while because it's too much effort for something that Google's gonna release a couple of weeks later anyway.
Although the GB SDK port was still majorly flawed, it was at least meant to run on phones with this kind of hardware. Have you seen the previews of Honeycomb? Even if someone did a pretty decent SDK port (which on itself is already quite impossible) it still wouldn't be any good because even our big-ass 4.3" screen is still nothing compared to a tablet. The UI just wouldn't be useable.
And yes I know there's gonna be people willing to give it a shot anyway, and of course that's fine by me, best of luck. Just trying to keep it real here: don't get your hopes up for a somewhat useable port because I don't see that happening before Google decides to put it in AOSP.
StephanV said:
An SDK port of an unreleased tablet-only OS sounds like a major waste of time to me.
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While I agree you couldn't just compile and run this thing on a HD2, it's not just for tablets. It's optimised to be used on higher resolutions and bigger screens, but will still run fine on phones.
I reckon we'll be seeing ports of this in the near future
No, as of now it really is officially tablet-only, and I'm not talking just about the technical stuff. A tablet OS isn't quite useable on a phone, not because you can't run it, but because it's really hard to use its UI.
I did hear originally that is was tablet only, but I've since heard reports that it's viable for phones as well. You know what t'internet's like. I guess we'll only know when it's actually out proper!
Very good news, waiting to see who's the first want to put their hands dirty
There doesn't seem to be a thread on XDA Dev for this exciting home phone, so I thought I'd create one. Quite weird actually, the first Android powered home phone and no ones talking about it!
I first caught wind of this just before Christmas 2010 and I thought WOW this looks cool! It does sound cool right?!
When I looked into it I thought it could have a bit better specs, but it's the first one out so I can only guess they are just publically testing the concept. Around November/December last year there were a lot of sites talking about it, but no one really had a hands on review, I though I'd wait till the new year, around January/February time till people have had a good mess around with it, but that time has been and gone, and a quick search on Google reveals no new news on it since early January
I don't actually have one myself but I would really like to get one just to try it out. But for £100 it's a tad to expensive for me at the moment. Its sold at Argos, Homebase used to sell it, but they don't list it on their website anymore.
If anyone has one please speak up!
Here are the quick stats:
-Android 1.6
-256MB internal memory
-SD Card Slot
-2.8" resistive touch screen (320x240)
-Wi-Fi
Argos link (+reviews): http://www.argos.co.uk/static/Produ...5|Digital+phones+single+handsets|14418986.htm
Amazon link (+reviews): http://www.amazon.co.uk/Binatone-iH...1?ie=UTF8&s=electronics&qid=1299183948&sr=8-1
Binatone link: http://www.binatonetelecom.com/products/android-products/ihome-phone
From what I gather the Motorola HS1001 is practically the same phone.
There are some videos on youtube of the HS1001 in action.
Now I'm no Android expert but I'm no dunce either, so this question goes out to the real hardcore Android hackers out there:
When you get a brand new device and you want to 'open it up' to get different ROMs on there etc, what the first thing you do?
Do you find out how to get in the bootloader?
Do you hook it up to your PC and run ADB or Fastboot or some other tool?
Or something else altogether?
I'd guess it's easier if its a new HTC device or another well known manafacturer as you would assume it's quite like the HTC devices that have come before it, but what about if it's a new device from a newish manafacturer? Would you see if anyones hacked any devices that company have made before? I'm guessing it's also easier if the company releases the source for their phones version of Android.
Lol, I think the lack of response answers a few of my questions
If there are any devs browsing this topic, I would still like some answers regarding the 'What do you do with a totally new device' questions.
I am looking at getting one of these phones eventually, and it looks like I will be the only one with it, so I'll be doing all the dev work myself from scratch
Thanks for the info.
I never thought an "Android" "housephone" existed!
since im all go for converting the world to Android I would seriously LOVE to own one.
there is one left in the argos near me, but as you rightly stated £100 is a lot of money.
if i do invest in one i will post further information, just dont hold your breath!!
Thanks again.
I bought one of these phones last night and first impressions are pretty good! Its a little slow, but I'm comparing it to my SGS2
Is there anyone else out there with this phone?
Whats the deal with Binatone not releasing the source code like the big phone companies do? I thought it was a requirement of the GPL?