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[Q] Flashing updated DL30 ROM over previous version

I have adrynalyne's Super Clean DL30 v.7 on my fascinate right now. He just upgraded to v.8 and I would like to install some of the features that were upgraded. Can I just flash this ROM over the previous version? I know you should usually clear data/factory reset in between flashing ROMs, but I just got everything perfect on this one and didn't want to have to do that. Does anyone know if it would potentially mess anything up or not run as well to do it this way?

Yes, flash this one over version 7. You do not need to wipe.

You can have some force close issues if data isn't wiped. I would suggest to start clean. But that's only my suggestion. If you wipe data always wipe twice as to insure everything is gone
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SlightlyLifted said:
You can have some force close issues if data isn't wiped. I would suggest to start clean. But that's only my suggestion. If you wipe data always wipe twice as to insure everything is gone
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Not saying you are wrong, but multiple people (including myself) just flashed without wiping and haven't had any issues.
Typically it is a good idea to wipe data/cache between flashes, but I don't think it is necessarily a requirement this time

I flashed 0.8 over 0.7 w/o clearing. Everything works just fine.
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Alright. Thanks for the advice. I backed up my Tom through CWM first for good measure and I'm about to flash the updated dl30. Ill post here if something goes wrong haha.

Worked perfect. No problems (so far), in fact it seems to run better now, but that's probably just because the newer version haha.
But as far as I can tell SO FAR, there are no problems.

I did not wipe and it works great
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I know I'm bad, but I never wipe... Hang on that came out wrong lol, only time I do data wipes are when I haver problems, just clear cache and run...
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I used to forgo wiping until I finally realized that the source of my wonky softkey issues was (apparently) due to many many unwiped flashes. Now I wipe every time. Granted that was with DJ05/DL09 ROMS/kernels, but still... lesson learned.

[Q] Upgrading From EB01 Superclean 2.2 to 2.3 Voodoo Version

So I have been messing around with EB01 for the last few days and I am a newbie. So far everything has gone great. I first flashed SuperClean 2.1 Non-voodoo and the upgraded to Superclean 2.2 non-voodoo. Finally, I got some advice and added voodoo by flashing just the EB01 Voodoo Kernel from jt1134. Everything has worked awesome. Voodoo definitely working, confirmed w/ Quadrant Score of about 1500.
I see that Superclean 2.3 is out for EB01 and I want to try it out. Since I already have voodoo installed w/ Superclean 2.2, what steps do I need to do to safely upgrade? I have done everything right so far and don't want to mess this up.
Here is my best assumption: Download EB01 Superclean 2.3 voodoo version and flash without wiping or diabling lagfix.
My main questions are:
1. Which Superclean version do I flash since I want to stay with voodoo (in other words do you have to flash the voodoo version or is that just being redundant since I already have voodoo intalled?)
2. If I am staying with a similar ROM, do you need to disable lagfix?
3. Can you give me scenarios when I should disable lagfix?
4. I upgraded from SC 2.1 to 2.2 without doing a wipe and it worked great. Is a wipe necessary from 2.2 to 2.3, or did I just get lucky before?

If you are running voodoo you don't want to flash anything but voodoo over it. You do not need to disable lagfix. I would recommend wiping cache to keep wierd little remnants from hanging around. The only time you would need to disable lagfix is if you were going to flash a non-voodoo kernel. Hope that helps.

I think that helps. So it sounds like I should keep flashing the superclean voodoo versions when a new one comes out if I want to upgrade. I should select "wipe data and cache" in ROM Manager before upgrading. I use Titanium Backup to backup my apps. Is there any other way to get back your apps and settings other than using Titanium Backup and running a restore?
Also, I am running the Superdark ROM over the top of Superclean 2.2 voodoo. Would my best option be: flash SuperClean 2.3 while wiping all data and cache. Flash Superdark again. Reinstall all apps and settings.

If you want to stay with voodoo, yes. I don't ever get into Rom Manager anymore. With all of the new themes out with reboot options built in it's just easier to boot straight into recovery and take care of business there. I install my rom/kernel (since thats how Adry's packaging them at this point) then install my theme since the rom over-writes your theme changes, then I wipe the cache partition a couple of times and the dalvik cache a couple of times. Then reboot.
Edit: Sorry I forgot to mention that if you don't do a data wipe then all of you apps and settings usually stay intact. But backups are still a good idea should something go wrong.

I'm watching this thread too.

I had 2.2 and was having issues with it - looking to go up to 2.3 now that the screenshot app is back.

I have just flashed 2.3 voodoo over 2.2 voodoo without wipe, all is working fine.
No issues encountered.

Have you restarted your phone yet? That's when I got all my issues.

brettdacosta said:
Have you restarted your phone yet? That's when I got all my issues.
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Yes, multiple times, been flashing mods.

I have just flashed 2.2v-2.3v and have not run in to any issues. I don't wipe anything and still have not run into anything weird. On 2.2v I did notice my pics from my camera weren't in my gallery, but 2.3v seemed to fix it.

Same here, I did an upgrade from 2.2 to 2.3 and no issues encountered. i did wipe the cache/dalvik cache but was willing to try it sans full wipe
I backed up just in case although

Mikes30000 said:
I think that helps. So it sounds like I should keep flashing the superclean voodoo versions when a new one comes out if I want to upgrade. I should select "wipe data and cache" in ROM Manager before upgrading. I use Titanium Backup to backup my apps. Is there any other way to get back your apps and settings other than using Titanium Backup and running a restore?
Also, I am running the Superdark ROM over the top of Superclean 2.2 voodoo. Would my best option be: flash SuperClean 2.3 while wiping all data and cache. Flash Superdark again. Reinstall all apps and settings.
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Whoa now, don't use ROM Manager to flash ROMs in voodoo! Use the red voodoo recovery. You shouldn't have to wipe data to go from 2.2 to 2.3. Just wipe cache and dalvik cache to be safe. I'd just do a nandroid beforehand to ensure you can go backwards if something runs funny.

I was able to go from 2.2 to 2.3. I did however backup and then wipe data, cache, and dalvik. I got rid of a few small issues that I was having in 2.2. Namely, I could connect to certain wifi hotspots and not others. As soon as I installed 2.3, I locked on immediately.
Thanks for the ROM Manager advice. I did all my work through the red cwm. I am going to try a 2.3 to 2.4 update now with just wiping caches.
Do you guys have any advice w/ Titanium Backup? Once I clean installed 2.3, I, like a lot of people noticed that the new market redownloaded almost everything that I had downloaded in the past. Pain in the ass, because I had to uninstall a lot of crap. I used Titanium to restore my USER apps and data and that went well. Is there anything with SYSTEM data that I should ever be restoring that can help out with getting my previous setting back?

how do i know if i have voodoo or non voodoo? im on a stock deoxed EB01. do i need to install voodoo kernel before i install a voodoo superclean?
sorry new to this fascinate.

Mikes30000 said:
I was able to go from 2.2 to 2.3. I did however backup and then wipe data, cache, and dalvik. I got rid of a few small issues that I was having in 2.2. Namely, I could connect to certain wifi hotspots and not others. As soon as I installed 2.3, I locked on immediately.
Thanks for the ROM Manager advice. I did all my work through the red cwm. I am going to try a 2.3 to 2.4 update now with just wiping caches.
Do you guys have any advice w/ Titanium Backup? Once I clean installed 2.3, I, like a lot of people noticed that the new market redownloaded almost everything that I had downloaded in the past. Pain in the ass, because I had to uninstall a lot of crap. I used Titanium to restore my USER apps and data and that went well. Is there anything with SYSTEM data that I should ever be restoring that can help out with getting my previous setting back?
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The reason it tries to download everything is the automatic restore function inside settings > privacy. It should be unchecked, and youwon't have to worry with it. Keep back up checked though at least I did. Good luck.

Mikes30000 said:
I used Titanium to restore my USER apps and data and that went well. Is there anything with SYSTEM data that I should ever be restoring that can help out with getting my previous setting back?
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The only thing from system data that I've restored is calendar data and calendar data storage. That has successfully restored my appointments, etc. that were in the stock calendar. I wouldn't load back any system apps, especially when going from eclair to froyo because you'd likely be overwriting newer apps with older ones.
dadsterflip said:
how do i know if i have voodoo or non voodoo? im on a stock deoxed EB01. do i need to install voodoo kernel before i install a voodoo superclean?
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stock is non-voodoo. the voodoo superclean installs the kernel with it. however I caution you to do your homework about voodoo and how to use it properly before making the jump. You can hose up your phone pretty good if you don't use it right.

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if this is the wrong place for this SORRY IN ADVANCE
ok so after rooting my shift i followed all the steps got the recovery on there and downloaded a ROM and wiped everything and when the rom flashed it said error 7 instalation aborted so i hit reboot system now just to see what would happen because i did wipe everything so i was expecting to be stuck at the boot img..no problem was just playing around but the thing actually booted in a rom that looks 100% stock....what happened
even tho the ROM looks 100% stock it is def not i have adfree and esfile explorer added to app drawer now if its gonna flash the rom anyways why does cw 2.5.1 tell me its a no go with a stauts 7 i have even formatted my card to wipe it 100% and the same thing happens>?

when you "wipe" you're not wiping the rom. The data, cache etc yes. Only a rom install overwrites a prior rom. unless you format the phone.

RyteSyde said:
when you "wipe" you're not wiping the rom. The data, cache etc yes. Only a rom install overwrites a prior rom. unless you format the phone.
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yeah it must have just been an issue with the rom i was flashing because i flashed another one no problem thanks for that bit of info though

I had no problem flash nfinites stock rom...must have been something you did...not so much the rom...
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JKILO said:
I had no problem flash nfinites stock rom...must have been something you did...not so much the rom...
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People that flashed the base steel posted had similiar issues. E.G. if you were on cm6 and wiped, then flashed the base, you'd boot into a fresh cm6. The partitions were setup wrong, I believe.
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smoothtaste said:
People that flashed the base steel posted had similiar issues. E.G. if you were on cm6 and wiped, then flashed the base, you'd boot into a fresh cm6. The partitions were setup wrong, I believe.
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Ok my fault...never took notice..thanks
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I just rooted for the first time yesterday so I'm fairly new to all this... is it common practice to wipe cahce/dalvik prior to flashing any ROM?
I've gone back and forth from the stock ROM to another custom Sense ROM without wiping and no issues. Is it only advised if something goes wrong? Also, is there an issue with just going into recovery and wiping cache when NOT flashing a new ROM (just rebooting to the same one I'm using)? Thanks for the help.

HolyShift said:
I just rooted for the first time yesterday so I'm fairly new to all this... is it common practice to wipe cahce/dalvik prior to flashing any ROM?
I've gone back and forth from the stock ROM to another custom Sense ROM without wiping and no issues. Is it only advised if something goes wrong? Also, is there an issue with just going into recovery and wiping cache when NOT flashing a new ROM (just rebooting to the same one I'm using)? Thanks for the help.
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Its good practice to always wipe. You may get by without it a few flashes. But eventually you'll be haunted by force closes, boot loops, etc.
Personally when I flash a new rom after the data, cache and dalvik wipes I format my boot, system, data and cache partitions manually via the mounts menu.
From experience, to truly see changes in rom updates or properly enjoy an entirely different one, this eliminates most problems before they ever manifest.
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For those who update 'nightly'

How do you do flash the ROM every day and not loose all your settings, apps, etc. and have to re-download and reset everything again?
Or do you not loose all this when you download new nightly builds of CM7?

I never understood this either. Either you can flash over the previous 'nightly' and that preserves the settings and apps or they do a titanium backup of the apps and settings and flash that back on after doing a wipe. Don't know for sure tho.
The nightlys are too bleeding edge for me tho, tend to stick with a stable rom until cyanogen releases a fully compiled version.

I flash nightlies nightly. All you do is flash over the old one and everythings still there.

So you don't do a wipe in Rom Manager before you flash?

tangiers said:
So you don't do a wipe in Rom Manager before you flash?
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Never. I haven't wiped once in about 30+ updates. Phone runs great.

synpax said:
How do you do flash the ROM every day and not loose all your settings, apps, etc. and have to re-download and reset everything again?
Or do you not loose all this when you download new nightly builds of CM7?
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1) download update and put on SD card
2) enter recovery
3) Wipe cache/dalvik cache (notice. Don't wipe data. this is how you keep your apps/preferences/etc.)
4) Apply nightly update .zip
4a) If you're running a launcher mod (other than ADW) you can go to reboot recovery then flash the launcher mod as well to save your homescreens.
5) Reboot.

I don't even do that. Just flash straight from ROM Manager. I also don't backup before every update either. Think my current backup is nightly 15.
Vision rooted, booted and scooted

martonikaj said:
1) download update and put on SD card
2) enter recovery
3) Wipe cache/dalvik cache (notice. Don't wipe data. this is how you keep your apps/preferences/etc.)
4) Apply nightly update .zip
4a) If you're running a launcher mod (other than ADW) you can go to reboot recovery then flash the launcher mod as well to save your homescreens.
5) Reboot.
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Exactly how I do it. +1

ScooterG said:
Never. I haven't wiped once in about 30+ updates. Phone runs great.
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But, the very first time you installed a ROM you had to wipe everything?
It's just the updates where you don't need to wipe, right?

Yeah, you only need to wipe when going to a new version of android, eg 2.2 to 2.3
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bazhip said:
Yeah, you only need to wipe when going to a new version of android, eg 2.2 to 2.3
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or... between CM and Gv or MIUI or Sense. Just good practice to wipe when making huge ROM changes.

what exactly is dalvik cache?

convolution said:
what exactly is dalvik cache?
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If goggle "what is dalvik cache", you'll probably get back to an xda thread, except that the first reply tells you to go google it, lol. Don't worry, though, cyanogen gives a pretty good summary of what it is in that thread a few posts down.

[Q] HBO GO nogo on Gingerbread

Ever since flashing the Mostly Stock pre-rooted ROM HBO GO will force close every single time as the app's video player starts up after the little logo animation/music. I can sign in successfully and browse the content/add to playlist but that's it. I tried to restore the app and login first using MyBackupRoot but that didn't work (gave me an error about failing to initialize the player) so I tried it from scratch, even clearing the data from the app several times. Has anyone gotten it to work right and could anyone suggest something else to try?

Works fine for me on Legendary 2.1.
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DroidApprentice said:
Ever since flashing the Mostly Stock pre-rooted ROM HBO GO will force close every single time as the app's video player starts up after the little logo animation/music. I can sign in successfully and browse the content/add to playlist but that's it. I tried to restore the app and login first using MyBackupRoot but that didn't work (gave me an error about failing to initialize the player) so I tried it from scratch, even clearing the data from the app several times. Has anyone gotten it to work right and could anyone suggest something else to try?
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What kernel are you running? I'm running the "MostlyStock Rebuild" by xBTx and my HBO Go failed on Nubernel and Earthbound v1 kernels. Running Earthbound's v2 and above, as well as bbelos' kernels gave me my HBO Go back.

Works fine on Shadowkernel.

Works on cm7...
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Used to happen to me, but then I took an arrow to the knee.
In all seriousness though, I flashed a new rom, clean gb, and the problem stopped.
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signal34 said:
What kernel are you running? I'm running the "MostlyStock Rebuild" by xBTx and my HBO Go failed on Nubernel and Earthbound v1 kernels. Running Earthbound's v2 and above, as well as bbelos' kernels gave me my HBO Go back.
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I suspected the kernel might be the culprit (Nubernel .1). OK, next question:
As long as cache and Dalvik are wiped, is a kernel flash through CWM usually safe and not requiring of a total reinstall of everything?

DroidApprentice said:
I suspected the kernel might be the culprit (Nubernel .1). OK, next question:
As long as cache and Dalvik are wiped, is a kernel flash through CWM usually safe and not requiring of a total reinstall of everything?
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I've never had a problem. Although too much flashing might leave residuals of previous kernel info (according to some conversations in Earthbound's thread), so he suggests a full Odin and reinstall of apps (not via Recovery but Titanium) just to make sure.

DroidApprentice said:
I suspected the kernel might be the culprit (Nubernel .1). OK, next question:
As long as cache and Dalvik are wiped, is a kernel flash through CWM usually safe and not requiring of a total reinstall of everything?
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I flash kernels all the time, without even wiping anything.

kennyglass123 said:
I flash kernels all the time, without even wiping anything.
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Ha. I'm not quite that confident. And a full nandroid backup, would it preserve the former kernel as well?

DroidApprentice said:
Ha. I'm not quite that confident. And a full nandroid backup, would it preserve the former kernel as well?
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Yes. Use CWM 5.0.2.7. This preserves kernel. I do backup weekly so that gives me extra confidence to just flash.

Now running Mostly Stock Rebuild with Shadow Kernel 1.0.2. This issue is fixed and overall so far so good. Now to see how it behaves over time.