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The Tab will be released next week in the UK and I don't wish to pay more than I need to, do you folks think that 16GB will be enough for general usage? How much space are you left with after installing your general apps etc?
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It depends on what you are going to use it for and if you plan on keeping your media library on it, etc.
16gb is fine for me. I throw on movie files when I'm going to be out and want to watch something (delete them when I'm done), have no use to store pictures on it, a handful of apps that I use, ebooks, etc. I use my Zune HD for music, so I've no desire to put music on it.
I figure if I start to have lots of files I'll need access to, I'll get the USB or SD Card adapter at the store and be happy that I saved a hundred bucks between the difference of a 16gb and a 32gb.
I prefer 32GB. But 16 gb should be fine as well. For music you install google music and sign up for invite, then you can upload all the music from your computer to the Cloud. It let you upload 20000 songs. Not bad. For streaming movies and videos from your computer download the plex application from market.
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16GB works for me - acutally my Tab says 9GB free space.
Most of my music streams over Google Music, before a long flight I choose the movies I need and delete old ones and Office Documents are stored in my dropbox.
Slashtop HD helps too
Just get the Samsung USB adapter and a Micro SD card w/reader and you can copy files to/from the Tab while traveling, see my post in this thread for pics and prices...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1185810
16 GB is enough for me. If the 32 GB model was $50 more, then I probably would have gotten it. Can't see paying $100 more for it.
As mentioned earlier, I also store my music library in the cloud with Google Music. I can listen to my music from my phone, tablet, and PC.
I don't store movies on it. I only store a movie or two on it temporarily. When I'm done, I delete it. I have the USB adapter and a 16 GB adapter to go along with it. I recently went on a trip, so I have 10 movies on it, quite a few apps, and pictures. I still have 7 GB left. The 10 movies I have are not HD, therefore their file size is a lot smaller than HD videos. The videos still look pretty good to me. If I'm into the clarity of the movie, then I should be watching it on my 60" TV, and not a 10" screen.
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16GB is more than enough to store a few hours of video. Easy enough to plug in the USB adapter and a thumb drive to swap content past that point.
The USB dongle and a 32GB thumb drive costs less than the extra 16GB of builtin memory.
In fact, for the $100 price delta you can get the USB dongle ($20) and two 32GB thumb drives (approx. $40 each).
I ended up with 16gb model only because Staples does not carry the 32gb model in the store and I used the $100 coupon.
I would have bought the 32gb just to have it but like others have said for the $100 price difference it really doesnt make sense. Just manage your videos and put music in the cloud, should be good with 16gb that way.
I used the $100 I would have spent towards the purchase of a new Netbook.
I now have the best of both words. With the Tab being so thin, I can store my Netbook, Tab 10.1 with the Samsung flip case, chargers, USB dongle, and cables all in a traditional netbook carrying case. I can use the Netbook for PC specific apps and certain websites that I have issues with on tablet browsers. I can use the Tab for web browsing, reading, Android apps and games.
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Thanks for the replies folks, much appreciated. I think the 16gig version will be fine for my needs, I don't think I'll be loading music onto the Tab but perhaps a film or two for trips away etc. The next decision is .... white or black!
16GB becomes 13.27Gb in fact
i went with the 16GB and found out its not enough for me (it is though on my SGS II)
- nandroid backups takes 2GB each
- i have about 90 apps installed (2GB) but
- Gameloft Games data takes a lot of space and I cant get rid of them because that Spiderman HD is sooo good !
- videos are less than 1GB
- about 15 music tracks
I grabbed the 16GB version, as I bought mine almost entirely for my photography portfolio, a cooking app, and a pdf reader. I've got 12GB free, and probably wont go much below that. If I'm feeling adventurous in a year or so and I still have it, I'll look into the cost of 128Gb memory, and look at upgrading the memory myself (I'm assuming the tablet features dual 64Gb chips for a total of 128Gb, or 16GB, but i dont know until i can either take it apart or see internals
jeandujardin01 said:
16GB becomes 13.27Gb in fact
i went with the 16GB and found out its not enough for me (it is though on my SGS II)
- nandroid backups takes 2GB each
- i have about 90 apps installed (2GB) but
- Gameloft Games data takes a lot of space and I cant get rid of them because that Spiderman HD is sooo good !
- videos are less than 1GB
- about 15 music tracks
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I only keep one or two backups on my devices, the rest get offloaded to my pc.
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I only keep one or two backups on my devices, the rest get offloaded to my pc.
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Does this require rooting my Tab?
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I only keep one or two backups on my devices, the rest get offloaded to my pc.
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. Seriously, why in the world would anyone want to store multiples of 2gb backups on the actual device. Does not make any sense.
This is funny but i get the feeling that most of the people that replied to UKseagull think that UK is one of the states in US.
GUYZ WE DONT HAVE ANY GOOGLE CLOUD PRODUCTS, SAME GOES TO NETFLIX AND HULU. WE CANNOT BUY BOOKS OR MOVIES ON ANDROID MARKET EIHER.
But in regards to the question, 16GB should be more than enough,
My problem is 3G or not 3G, I know i have mny phone with me but on Tathering battery will last me few hours, than again Tab with 3G means i have to charge 2 devices at the same time.
3G will give me option to stream films online (thank you adobe) but than again thats another £10 to pay for new sim with unlimited data on P&G :/
Any good pros and cons?
I'd think that streaming films via 3G would be quite expensive, you can soon whiz through a 500mb data cap.
The 3G version is £100 extra to the wifi unit, but the MicroSD slot that comes with it is a plus.
Get a wifi tablet and a mobile hot spot. If you have a smart phone and laptop, they could share the hotspots and help eliminate the need for higher data on your smartphone. Just a thought to see if that is a better deal to double down on the mobile hotspots.
Regarding 16 vs 32. I bought 32gb knowing that expansion would have to be via USB cable plus drive. Its okay for stationary use but not the best for travel and mobile. But if you can be very selective on your media, 16gb will work fantastic.
I have about 600 songs, which are longer and larger files since they are remixes. Then 2 TV shows @ 550mb each and 1 movie @ 1.2gb. They are Standard Def movies. I have an ample list of apps installed as well. Barely any pictures. I have 18gb left on my storage. So I am doing quite well with 32gb. I could easily fit an ample supply of movies and music to fill it up. But I'm waiting to see what is available on the Samsung Hub in HD to download to my device. I listen to music at my desk at work via the media hub. So it charges while it plays, and then I grab and go to meetings with it. Saves me towing my iPOD with me everywhere. It stays in my Jeep and then only ejects for the gym. So my Tab is my work and travel entertainment device.
If you had a 16gb, you would be nearly full with the above list of media. So you would need to delete and make room for more or use the USB adapter plus external drive of sorts. Don't get me wrong it's nice to be able to do that.... but may not always be practical with the current case+stands out there. If you were wanting to watch a movie on a plane, it may be a bit much to drag out and spread on your tray table. or if you are in a hotel and want to watch a movie, it'll have to be on your tab storage if you use the HDMI adapter to connect to the hotel TV. You can't have external storage and HDMI at same time. I think downloading a movie while traveling would be nice to watch in a hotel room via HDMI adapter. Cheaper than a hotel and you can at least take it with you on your tablet for the trip to rewatch of finish if you fall asleep.
These scenarios are probably not applicable to most but if you travel alot you might appreciate the simplicity of the larger storage. Plus you can't change you mind later without loosing money on selling old and buy the more expensive 32gb. I hope that helps give a different perspective.
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32 GB and you will feel good about your purchase. Spend the extra money. Don't be cheap.
The SGT 10.1 is not out in Canada yet so I have to wait a little longer.
I think I'll go with the 16GB version.
If I need extra space then I will go with the Wi-Drive (Kingston). Rumor has it an app is in the works for Android. My other option is to use a microSd card in a SG2.
Hi everyone,
I would be interested in some opinions as up until now I never had a tablet.
The question is how much storage you need as now both versions are available at the PlayStore (US) and I am totally unsure which version is the better choice. As I never had a tablet before, I do not know how much data you normally save on such a device. As it has no cellular, it has to be most of the time in the surrounding of Wifi, so space for video streaming and music would not be such a problem (what about a flight trip and some movies?). On the other hand, I hear that a lot of people think that even 32 GB are too small as there are nowadays games for Android that consume up to 2-3 GB. If I am really a gaming person is additionally questionable, most of the times I just have no time for that. But if several users might use that device (in my case probably just one, but maybe in the future up to 3 people), then storage can be again a bottleneck.
What I have in mind for usage would be mainly using that device for reading pdf files for research and browsing and streaming of videos. What functions and by that space I might use when I experience the possibilities of that device is difficult to say.
(Additionally, I will buy a Nexus 4 16GB and probably signing up for GoogleDrive and GoogleMusic as especially on my mobile phone I see a need for sufficient space).
I appreciate your help.
I travel a lot. Flying and hotels are not so bad, I usually have access to some sort of WiFi connection at the terminals and hotels, so I'm only "dead" when in the air, and worst case I can "load" my tablet in-flight from my laptop (which I've done on those long flights to Europe and Asia).
But I also like to take long camping tours on my motorcycle, where many times cellular isn't available, let alone WiFi, and bringing along my laptop would take too much space.
And that's where I feel the storage pinch of a 16Gb device. My Tab 8.9 is 16Gb, and while it's a great tablet (for its time), the lack of storage means it requires more forethought before travelling, and a lot more "shuffling" of files on and off to "freshen" my music, video and ebook libraries, or packing around the external SD card reader, which is clunky and a bit slow.
Same problem with my old N7 16Gb, which I just replaced with a 32Gb. And the other problem is that the Nexus 7's USB port is so fragile that I fear breaking it with a USB2Go dongle stressing it, along with it being clunky.
And that's why I ordered the 32Gb N10, and why I didn't even think about buying a N4. Sure, $100 is a steep price to pay for the extra storage, but for me it's worth it for the lack of hassles.
And for those that say USB2Go will solve the problem for them, you should factor in the cost of a decent USB stick/card reader/SDcard and USB2Go adapter if you don't already have them...then that $100 difference will shrink quite a bit.
By the sounds of it you'll only want the extra space when going away/out of wifi access e.g.trains, aeroplanes etc.
I am in a similar situation and settled on a 16GB. I have now confirmed that I can access films from a USB drive and will be purchasing a 64GB USB stick for those times when i'm away from home. This will give me a much higher total storage space than 32GB and will only cost ~£50.
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By the sounds of it you'll only want the extra space when going away/out of wifi access e.g.trains, aeroplanes etc.
I am in a similar situation and settled on a 16GB. I have now confirmed that I can access films from a USB drive and will be purchasing a 64GB USB stick for those times when i'm away from home. This will give me a much higher total storage space than 32GB and will only cost ~£50.
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For me it's always better to have extra storage space. I had the 64GB ASUS prime and on top of it I had bought 16GB microSD card to put music and ebooks. This time I ordered a 16GB since that's what was available on Google store and received it yesterday but by then 32GB was available, so I ordered one. I really wish there was a microSD slot for expansion !
I admit having an sd slot would be nice, but not that much of an inconvenience to plug a usb in when you need that extra storage
I only ever have multiple movies on my tablet when I'm on vacation and while I do have some HD games installed, I hardly ever play them. That being said I never had a problem with my 16 GB tablets. At home I can easily stream movies with Emit and I can always delete music I don't want to listen to at the time if I ever come close to the size limit but you can fix that by using Google Music, which you said is your plan anyways. I'd say save the $100 and spend it on something else. You can always get a USB drive and an OTG cable for longer trips. It's really not that inconvenient to transfer a few files and then pack the USB drive away again.
even considered the seagate satellite portable drive. 500GB battery powered drive with wifi capabilities so no cables. But dont think i could stream 1080p from it smoothly
So I see this conversation taking over a few other threads. I am not trying to play clean up I just think we need a thread for it since it is a heated debate.
So no SD card... What to do... some say online storage and others say OTG.
I currently use both. I am on Sprint and running the Epic 4G Touch. I am lucky enough to be on a WiMax area so I can take advantage of the unlimited data that Sprint offers. But even with that I still use OTG.
If I take some pics and vids I usually start putting them on Picasa and Youtube pretty fast. This keeps my internal 14Gb memory a little more open for new pics and vids. I have an 8Gb SDcard and it is full of music. to this date I have only ever ran out of space once and I was shooting a 30 min HD movie on top of what I had not cleared off. I then started carrying a 32gig USB stick to help alleviate the lack of space but even that can get cramped so I have a 500Gb 2.5" hard drive and it works very well so far.
The other thing I have done, because we all know that Youtube recompresses your video's, was setup an Android on a stick TV device with an FTP server. Attached to that guy it a couple 1Tb harddrives. I can throw my vids up there as well when in a crunch.
As you can see there are lots of options to replace a missing SDcard slot that can only ad 32Gb of space unless the company paid the extra buck to allow 64Gb. That to me is still limited and I find it just as easy to OTG some movies off and on my phone as the USB sticks are easier to manage than opening my phone up to remove the Micro SDcard and put it into a USB adapter.
Again this is not a deal breaker for me as there are far to many options to a SDcard and some are way more convenient.
No SD is not really a problem for me, though a 64gb version of the handset would have been welcome, to many others aswell. I know one is due to be coming to the uk but not soon enough for some.
Not an issue for me as I have very little music/pictures on my phone and just apps.
USB OTG is more than enough for me
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I have 100GB Dropbox so it is definitely not an issue for me.
I always had the 32GB iPhone and I never had storage issues.
I have a 16 GB nexus 4. Its ok
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No sd card... Not a deal breaker for me... I think 32gb is enough for me... And yeah USB OTG can help u out...
32gb its good for me
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Its only a problem when you have 16gb or less space, games like gta and need for speed take alot of space.but great htc making 32gb and 64gb versions. .
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No big deal at all for me.
So all in all looks like a non deal breaker for most. But there are a lot out there that refuse to buy it because of this omission. LOL
I really hope that the 22nd is the date for the US carrier's because this baby will be in my pocket that very day!
It's not a deal breaker for me, the thing I like about the sd I'd if something happens to the phone how would you get your backups, photos, etc. off of it. I plan to keep it backed up to my computer or ex hard drive. Just saying
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At the end of the day, the only people that will struggle are those who are used to using devices with a lot more storage.
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For me it's not an issue at all. I used to only believe in sd card storage but then I started to realize I've never even filled up an sd card to it full capacity and I've only ever had an 8gb card so 32gb is more than enough for me I can't even see my self getting close to 16 gb.
Not to mention I've had an iPhone for about 2 years now so I've gotten used to not having an sd card anyways.
with my phone history realistically whether the phone had memory card or not I haven't even used 11gb of memory ever! especially when I get bored of things I delete them. I have a 32gb memory card (29gb was free space) and I still have 23gb left! and I have tonnes of videos and music and pics on my memory card. Just generally if I want to watch HD content etc I put it on my laptop which has 750gb hard drive plus a bigger screen to watch things on.
In terms of backing everything up, my most important things are backed up on my laptop and my memory card and memory stick so even if the phone was to die, I would have everything available anyway as when I take pics and videos etc I put them on my laptop then memory stick or memory card. I suppose having a card slot makes thing easier but i am not fussed. Have had xperia S, One S and One X with no memory card and hasn't bothered me.
Never took the SD card out of my Nexus One in almost 3 years. So to me the SD card is pretty much just a potential security problem, I don't care about that at all. A removable battery is nice, though. This is actually the only real problem I have with the HTC One, that the battery is not removable and it doesn't have a waterproof-excuse for this like the Xperia Z.
I've been saying this since the One X was announced last year. Is it a big deal? No. Simple.
In a year or 2 there won't be any expandable memory. Apple made it a standard years ago and clearly survived. I hate to compare to them but it's a simple concept that works.
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In a year or 2 there won't be any expandable memory. Apple made it a standard years ago and clearly survived.
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That's mainly because they increased the internal memory. With greater onboard memory it does negate the need, plus switching is just clumsy.
I'm coming from a 16GB iPhone 3GS and never filled it.
I'm just glad HTC went with a 32 and 64gb variants. Because if they would've made the one with just 16gb storage capacity, I don't care how good the device would've been, I still would have not consider it.
I rather have an sdcard slot. But with a 64gb internal storage, I'm good with.
I have a 32gb in my mytouch 4g and I'm already way over half of storage taken.
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The smartphone obviously isn't a replacement for a desktop (or media content server), but is sure has become a replacement for all the other portable computerized devices we used to carry: PDA, GPS, camera and mp3 player, etc. So, what kind of storage would one need to replace all those devices? Camera storage of 8 - 16 GB is not unreal for a collection of photos and videos, and music player storage of 16 - 32 GB is not uncommon for a collection of music. That's pretty conservative these days.
And ya, cloud storage is great, but c'mon, let's be realistic, we want all of our music and video content available locally so that when we don't have connectivity (like on a plane) we can still access our collection of music and videos.
32GB is almost NOT enough for many users. It is good that a 64GB version is available. I only wish the 64 GB versions were more readily available.
With ~ 25 GB of user space left over on a 32GB phone, that's not enough for me. I could make it work, but I would have to make some serious compromises about what I would have to leave out of my music collections, just to add a movie or two to watch on a trip.
An SD card slot would have solved the whole thing.
Just because Apple makes lots of money selling products targeted to users who care less about options than your average techie, doesn't mean it is a good idea to copy them.
I'm seriously considering the HTC One, but the lack of SD card and battery replacement has ALWAYS been a negative point against the whole prospect. The screen resolution is a plus, but they are starting out with points against them with the SD card problem.
And I really don't understand why they would do that.
Does anyone have any thoughts on the latest models of Android AIO's?
Personally I'm falling in love with the ideer of having a huge android on the angled table in front of me.
Many of them also doubles as an external touch screen for a pc with easy switching between function modes.
The one I look to buy is an acer DA223hql from amazon.de.
It's a bit pricey, and only has one gig of ram, but the size seems good for my reach and I like the 1080p resolution.
No argument that higher resolution is better like the acer TA272HUL's 2K or Lenovo ThinkVision 28's 4K, but those are both out of my price range and to big for for comfortable use.
The DA223hql seems to be the best compromise so far.
In my searches I stumbled upon a maintenance manual on Lenovos website which shows how to disassemble and replace the ram and hard drive on the Lenovo N308, and the components look like regular pc parts which makes me druel of the thought of a cheap Tegra 4 device backed by 4 gigs of ram and 1 - 1.5 TB of built in storage.
But the N308 is a 1600x900 TN panel with IR dual touch, and rumor has it that third party file explorers can't access the hard drive.
So I'm not sure i could live with those limitations.
I've not yet been able to find any reviews on the DA223hql and it seems to only be on sale in Germany so far, but several times my fingers have clicked the "add to cart" button.
I've just not been able to click "proceed to checkout" yet.
Please, someone give me some insight into these AIO's.
I trust android to be right for me in this category.
I trust that 18-22 inches is a good size if placed correctly.
I don't have much trouble living with android 4.1 or 4.2
I can manage to live with one gig of ram, though more would definitely be nicer.
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Does anyone have any thoughts on the latest models of Android AIO's?
Personally I'm falling in love with the ideer of having a huge android on the angled table in front of me.
Many of them also doubles as an external touch screen for a pc with easy switching between function modes.
The one I look to buy is an acer DA223hql from amazon.de.
It's a bit pricey, and only has one gig of ram, but the size seems good for my reach and I like the 1080p resolution.
No argument that higher resolution is better like the acer TA272HUL's 2K or Lenovo ThinkVision 28's 4K, but those are both out of my price range and to big for for comfortable use.
The DA223hql seems to be the best compromise so far.
In my searches I stumbled upon a maintenance manual on Lenovos website which shows how to disassemble and replace the ram and hard drive on the Lenovo N308, and the components look like regular pc parts which makes me druel of the thought of a cheap Tegra 4 device backed by 4 gigs of ram and 1 - 1.5 TB of built in storage.
But the N308 is a 1600x900 TN panel with IR dual touch, and rumor has it that third party file explorers can't access the hard drive.
So I'm not sure i could live with those limitations.
I've not yet been able to find any reviews on the DA223hql and it seems to only be on sale in Germany so far, but several times my fingers have clicked the "add to cart" button.
I've just not been able to click "proceed to checkout" yet.
Please, someone give me some insight into these AIO's.
I trust android to be right for me in this category.
I trust that 18-22 inches is a good size if placed correctly.
I don't have much trouble living with android 4.1 or 4.2
I can manage to live with one gig of ram, though more would definitely be nicer.
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don't have much input, but they are tempting me too. I may be wrong but I think android is currently maxed out at 2gb of ram and cannot handle any more. If you get one lemme know what you think, I am hoping it would be better than a chromebook experience.
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Just ordered an acer DA223hql
As far as I know android is based off of a 32 bit Linux system and is able to address up to 4gb ram.
probably 5.0 will be 64 bit which should allow ram in the terabyte range, not that I think anyone would need more than 2-3 gigs for a long time.
My Note 3 has 3 gigs, the LG G3 comes in a model with 2 gigs, and one with 3 gigs.
The Acer I've ordered has only one gig, which in my experience means I'll need to manage how much I'll have open at once.
A bit annoying but what's a guy to do.
With a little luck the ram will be replaceable.
Apart from that, the snapdragon 600 should be plenty fine for running a mostly stock android.
Unless of course the software is poorly optimized.
Not much hardware in the world can save you from poor software.
That's the scary part of being an early adopter.
At least it's not Acer's first attempt at this, so they have a little experience.
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Just ordered an acer DA223hql
As far as I know android is based off of a 32 bit Linux system and is able to address up to 4gb ram.
probably 5.0 will be 64 bit which should allow ram in the terabyte range, not that I think anyone would need more than 2-3 gigs for a long time.
My Note 3 has 3 gigs, the LG G3 comes in a model with 2 gigs, and one with 3 gigs.
The Acer I've ordered has only one gig, which in my experience means I'll need to manage how much I'll have open at once.
A bit annoying but what's a guy to do.
With a little luck the ram will be replaceable.
Apart from that, the snapdragon 600 should be plenty fine for running a mostly stock android.
Unless of course the software is poorly optimized.
Not much hardware in the world can save you from poor software.
That's the scary part of being an early adopter.
At least it's not Acer's first attempt at this, so they have a little experience.
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4 gb would make sense since it is just a 32 bit linux after all. Not sure where, but I read the 2gb thing somewhere previously. I had heard that most of those aios also used standard ddr3 so my guess is that it should not hurt to try. With the extra hdd thing, I'm sure the problem could be solved via software. Most apps on a stock kit kat build cannot write to the ext sdcard, might be the same problem you heard about regarding the added hdd.
Anyway lemme know when it comes in, if you have root and an unlocked bootloader I will most likely order one too.
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It'll unfortunately take a few weeks to get here.
I'm Danish but live in Cyprus.
Sadly Amazon.de wouldn't ship it to me down here, so I had to order it to my dad's address in Denmark and then when it arrives there he'll forward it here.
Sucky way but at least I'll get the one I want.
As for the limited access to the hard drive in the Lenovo model, I have no idea.
It runs 4.2 JB so it can't be the kitkat thing.
Did you get it?
I was thinking about doing similar but ended up getting tab pro 12.2.
Got it, yes
And have been playing around with it for a few days.
Here's the quick and dirty of it.
First of all the screen, as nothing about it is as prevalent when dealing with a 22 inch tablet.
It's bright and with excellent viewing angles.
Resolution is a bit on the low side considering I watch it from about a foot and a half away.
The snapdragon 600 happily chugs along on a nearly vanilla built of Android.
There is a tiny bit of lag here and there, but I chug that up more to the single gig of ram.
An interesting little side note is that the screen Wakes up when touched, so no need to fumble the side for the on-off button.
The 16 gigs of built in storage fills up quickly so an SD card is definitely a must.
As the port is a full size SD you have the opportunity for cheap and really fast cards.
I have my eyes on a 128 gig, so I can get my 64 gig micro back in my phone.
Another way to do it is to mount a USB drive, but that option is better as a secondary.
It easily reads both exFat and ntfs, so no problems with my old 750 gig USB drive.
Another side note: a big USB drive will be good for videos.
Remember that I said that I sit close to the screen?
Well the negative side of that is that ANY lack of quality in my movies show up like sitting a few yards from a nuke.
I'll need to upgrade much of my media to 1080 versions with a good bit rate. Wich incidentally means I'll need more storage.
The problems of the developing world, right?
But playing a high quality movie right in my face is awesome though.
The speakers are OK, and more than enough at my distance.
For acting as a music system I have it connected to a Phillips Bluetooth speaker, which works fine.
The biggest problem with audio is watching movies with 5.1 on stereo speakers.
You turn up the audio to hear what they are saying, only to wake up the whole house as soon as any action starts.
Maybe someone can suggest a cheap and compact surround soundbar? I don't have room for a full speaker system.
Or would a small 5.1 amp with just the 3 front speakers connected be enough?
Mostly I just need the center channel so I can hear the dialog.
Unless it gets updated to "L" it's options for audio out is pretty much limited to a mini jack.
That's as much as I have time for now.
Later I hope to get into the issues of multi tasking like floating apps and the likes.
Bonus: towelroot worked flawlessly on this one. Full root privileges, but don't forget to install superuser yourself.
towelroot
Hi
I got mind yesterday too and I agree with your statement.
It is a valid device...but when you say
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Bonus: towelroot worked flawlessly on this one. Full root privileges, but don't forget to install superuser yourself.
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I would like to agree too, but for me towelroot does not work.
Can you help? I rooted many devices so far but I can not came up with this one....
Thanks in advance
silvio76
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Hi
I got mind yesterday too and I agree with your statement.
It is a valid device...but when you say
I would like to agree too, but for me towelroot does not work.
Can you help? I rooted many devices so far but I can not came up with this one....
Thanks in advance
silvio76
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Should not be complicated. I hope...
I installed this apk: https://www.dropbox.com/s/a2h75gcp8y1r6us/TowelRoot.apk
Ran it once.
It rebooted my system.
I installed supersu, and updated the binary.
And it was done.
Have not posted a link here before, so if there is any problems pm me and I'll mail you the link or file.
I'm not next to my acer right now, so if you need to know it's firmware version I'll have to check it later.
But start with the towelroot I used.
Hope it helps.
Regards, Arne
hi
I will give it a try thanks.
Be advised 128 GB SD card is not supported....
Keep in touch
Silvio76
EDIT it works with towelroot v1, I was using v3.....
Thanks again....
No problem.
Did you try a 128 card?
Often when they write the card size limit is to avoid customers calling them and asking the where to get a "1 terabyte card" that the written specs say would work.
But it is a micro SD-XC port and unless Acer screwed something up or set a deliberate limit, the SD-XC standard reaches all the way to 4 TB, though I doubt that we'd find such any time soon.
Hi
Yes
tried a brand new Kingston 128 gb , no luck ,
formatted with a Windows pc , no luck,
partioned at 64 GB, then formatted and it works...
May be it is my card....but is strange....
Scary news.
Did you try to format it from an Android device?
When I first bought a 64 card for my original Note I had to format it in the phone before it would read it.
But I also saw a guy Frankenstein'ing his Note 2 to run a 256 GB card, and that one is rated for 64 gig max...
Of course to connect a full sized SD to a phone you need a special adapter.
Hi
I tried from the Acer Da223hql at first but formatting was an endless process....it took about 20 minutes before I surrended...and switched to Win8 for the format operation. But then the card was not readable for the Acer....so I went for the partitioning.
I suspect that 64gb is the maximum allowed on this machine...
If you want more details here I am...
Silvio76
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I also use this device as an external touchscreen monitor for a win8 laptop and it is great...
works without a glitch....
On the Android side I installed Floating apps and Floating Browser, so I take advantage of the large screen...
Try it
And the hits just keep on coming.
Dared to take it apart today (pretty scary), and it turned out that the ram is not replaceable.
Live with the gig you have.
Ah well, it was a good dream though, 4 gigs...
Have mounted a 3tb USB drive though, with no trouble what so ever.
And I connected my laptop to the hdmi for the first time.
It works but has some weird behavior.
The picture shrunken but the touch sensor works correctly, so the further from the center I touch the more offset it registres.
Both my acer and my laptop run at 1080p, and I set it to mirroring.
The laptop days it's sending 1080p at 60 hz and the Acer says the received signal is 1080/60 so I don't see the problem.
The Acers settings screen does have a section marked by a square with arrows going out. But it ain't selectable.
Haven't seen manual resizing since crt and analog monitors anyway.
Any ideas?
Hi
you are very brave trying to open it!
As far as I know these devices (based on Qualcomm Snapdragon) have integrated/soldered RAM, so I never thought to check it by myself.
By the way 1Gb is plenty in my opinion, then it depends what kind of application you have in mind (photo editing and such can be memory killer)
As external touch monitor it worked fine for me. I have a 2in1 Asus Transformer Book Win8 based and I use the extended desktop mode.
The Acer was immediately recognized as a monitor and touch input device. No issue with screen resolution and/or its alignement.
Would you like to try that setup and see if works well? If no may be is your Acer that does not work properly.
I did not touch any setting on the OSD menu.
Furthermore I installed Xposed frameworks+XHalo floating windows manager and now I have a Windows-like multitasking.....check it, it's worth the test. Several windows at the same time (Chrome, terminal emulator, Youtube) and no lag.....unbelivable.
Looking for your comments
silvio76
Thanks on the bravery comment
Just sad it was fruitless.
I feel limits when moving my big files around in the background , and think more ram would have eliminated that.
But I'll live with it.
My laptop is an Asus u38n (the ultrabook with an AMD instead of Intel).
It connects fine to our TV without the weird scaling.
I guess I'll try sending Acer a mail and see if they have some advice.
I've only just started experimenting with the multi window funktions.
Juggling 50 hour work week with being a husband and father sometimes means that things move slower than I'd like.
But even without multi window I am pretty happy with it.
I knew from my wife's old gPad that the snapdragon 600 is no slouch.
Do you know a popup client for hangouts that works the way chatheads for Facebook messenger works?
I don't use Facebook much but love that concept.
Just haven't found a hangouts client that does it that elegant.
Hi
Being an husband and a father myself I fully understand
Concerning labour hours, my yesterday working day ended after 14 hours, so......I'm done! But we are lucky to have a job nowadays.
Back on topic I'm not a Facebook user, neither my wife, therefore the only app I can suggest, which can have similar functionality, is Lilypad Hd.
You can find it on Playstore. Hope it will suit your need!
Cheers
Silvio76
Interesting little tid bit.
I needed to empty out my 64GB micro SD and chose to format it in my note 3 (running stock).
After formatting the acer told me that it was faulty and offered to format it.
I chose yes and like yours it just stood there for half an hour with no result.
So I put it in my laptop and formatted it from there ending up with the same "faulty" message.
So finally I put used my original gNote (running CM11) now there is no problems.
somehow, somewhere, there is a difference in the way different devices do it
lindarne said:
Interesting little tid bit.
I needed to empty out my 64GB micro SD and chose to format it in my note 3 (running stock).
After formatting the acer told me that it was faulty and offered to format it.
I chose yes and like yours it just stood there for half an hour with no result.
So I put it in my laptop and formatted it from there ending up with the same "faulty" message.
So finally I put used my original gNote (running CM11) now there is no problems.
somehow, somewhere, there is a difference in the way different devices do it
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Hi in my experience Samsung Android devices have "bad" attitude in respect of vanilla Android.
They probably have some changes in the code which are not limited to the interface (TouchWiz), resulting in incompatibilities.
This is the Android fragmentation people often blame.
However when I formatted the SD card in my laptop, the Acer accepted it without assle.
I would try again formatting the SD with the PC and see if this happen again....sometimes magic happens
silvio79
As we all know by now, the Note 5 does not come with an SD card slot. There are USB OTG adapters that will allow you to plug in a micro sd card reader and use the storage. My issue is they are bulky and cannot be kept on the device during daily use. My thought is, if the adapter is slim enough you may be able to plug into the micro usb slot and have the card wrap around the back of the phone behind a case. If anyone has seen something like this please let me know. Check out the link below to get a better idea of what i mean. The link is for a universal wireless charger that will link to your phone via micro usb. Instead of the cable linking to a qi charger, maybe it could link to a thin micro sd card reader. Please let me know what you think, maybe improve upon the idea.
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0...=UTF8&psc=1&tag=androidcentral00-20&m1k=vb_ac
This is a good idea here as well, but it is still too thick to fit behind a case.
http://www.amazon.com/Idmix®-Chargi...7&sr=1-16&keywords=micro+usb+to+micro+sd+card
I think the best solution would be to rethink your workflow/usage scenario for the SD Card and find other ways to achieve what you want. You can also wait to see if they come out with the 128gb version, but between the 64gb storage option and changing how you do things, it should be achievable.
I know for a time the WiFi Drives were popular with iPhone users, that's not really a bad option either...
kevroc said:
I think the best solution would be to rethink your workflow/usage scenario for the SD Card and find other ways to achieve what you want. You can also wait to see if they come out with the 128gb version, but between the 64gb storage option and changing how you do things, it should be achievable.
I know for a time the WiFi Drives were popular with iPhone users, that's not really a bad option either...
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Yeah I did this a few years ago when I switched to a phone with no mSD slot, moved all my pictures and videos and **** to cloud storage, now I pay $10 a month and have 1TB of storage space I can put anything I want on. I back up all my photos to the cloud and delete them from my phone once I get a decent number accumulated.
I also have been streaming my music, I dont listen to music a TON, but when I do I generally am only getting 30-60 minutes of listening in, that's not all that much data to stream so it doesn't effect my data usage all that much.
All in all, I felt fine on 32GB of internal storage with no mSD card, 64GB is a breeze.
kevroc said:
I think the best solution would be to rethink your workflow/usage scenario for the SD Card and find other ways to achieve what you want. You can also wait to see if they come out with the 128gb version, but between the 64gb storage option and changing how you do things, it should be achievable.
I know for a time the WiFi Drives were popular with iPhone users, that's not really a bad option either...
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I do actually have a wireless option that reads sd cards, my use case, i would like to the storage attached so pics and videos can be directly stored. I pre-ordered the 64gb, i didnt want to hold out lol. I found another item that is getting me closer but now i have to figure out a way to read the ribbon cable lol
http://www.amazon.com/Manufacture-S...8297&sr=8-1&keywords=Micro+SD+Extension+Cable.
I was just looking at Wifi Drives on Amazon, looks like they've come a long ways... They actually seem pretty cool.
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I do actually have a wireless option that reads sd cards, my use case, i would like to the storage attached so pics and videos can be directly stored. I pre-ordered the 64gb, i didnt want to hold out lol. I found another item that is getting me closer but now i have to figure out a way to read the ribbon cable lol
http://www.amazon.com/Manufacture-S...8297&sr=8-1&keywords=Micro+SD+Extension+Cable.
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That cable is pretty cool. I know you can't beat direct storage, that's why I had the 128gb iPhone But honestly, managing that much space via usb sync etc. is kind of a hassle. Maybe the cable adapter is good for batch offloading, but do you really need that much local storage, I think you'd get tired of the extra bulk and the potential hassles of "mounting" the external card, read/write limitations, etc. that go along with all of that.
I got this monster on the go cloud from Sam's club for 10 bucks a few months back, really good deal.
http://www.monsterdigital.com/wireless-streaming/otg-cloud
By the way, have you guys seen this deal? Maybe i missed the price drop but this seems like an excellent deal to me!
http://www.amazon.com/SanDisk-Adapt...=UTF8&qid=1439928867&sr=1-7&keywords=micro+sd
I would just buy a wifi UsB drive if your looking for something compact. Or just Dropbox it
sdakidd88 said:
By the way, have you guys seen this deal? Maybe i missed the price drop but this seems like an excellent deal to me!
http://www.amazon.com/SanDisk-Adapt...=UTF8&qid=1439928867&sr=1-7&keywords=micro+sd
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Yeah, that price drop popped up a week or two ago on slickdeals. If you can go up to SD Card, they're a bit cheaper/faster.
If they make this for the Note 5 like they did for the s6 and s6 edge it could solve the battery issue and the sd card problem
http://www.incipio.com/chargers/off...-extended-battery-case-samsung-galaxy-s6.html
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Good grief. The note 5 is big enough as it is. Last thing I would ever do is put a huge battery case on it.
There are always ideas. It's unfortunately that Samsung made that choice (Or maybe the Note Edge 2 supports it and they're trying to encourage people to go for the more expensive Note Edge 2? idk, Just a thought)
Solutions?
As mentioned previously, maybe there might be a case manufacturer that provides the support without the battery so it's lighter (or Samsung could surprise us with the S view case?)
Dual USB drive or NFC SD Card/ FD? sure you have to carry something extra that might get lost and all, but it's quite portable indeed :good:
Get a Note 4, install ported Note 5 ROM and voila!
Buy Cloud Storage or get an unlimited amount of cloud storage's
I'd use the battery /SD case in a minute! I have a note 2 with a 9300 mah zerolemon battery and I love my giant brick. That's why I don't care about design this, pretty that, glass this, feels good in hand that.
I just want my forever lasting brick phone! Whatever phone I get is getting either a zerolemon extended battery or a battery case.
Doesn't matter if the phone is pretty cause I'm never gonna see it!
I don't care because thinking about plugs and chargers something I never want to go back to!
I had been using this 64GB with my ex S6E - works very well. Is mini size and not bulky at all. It is auto detect by the phone and N5 users had reported it works well with it too
http://www.sandisk.com/products/mobile-flash-drives/dualdrive/
sdakidd88 said:
As we all know by now, the Note 5 does not come with an SD card slot. There are USB OTG adapters that will allow you to plug in a micro sd card reader and use the storage. My issue is they are bulky and cannot be kept on the device during daily use. My thought is, if the adapter is slim enough you may be able to plug into the micro usb slot and have the card wrap around the back of the phone behind a case. If anyone has seen something like this please let me know. Check out the link below to get a better idea of what i mean. The link is for a universal wireless charger that will link to your phone via micro usb. Instead of the cable linking to a qi charger, maybe it could link to a thin micro sd card reader. Please let me know what you think, maybe improve upon the idea.
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0...=UTF8&psc=1&tag=androidcentral00-20&m1k=vb_ac
This is a good idea here as well, but it is still too thick to fit behind a case.
http://www.amazon.com/Idmix®-Chargi...7&sr=1-16&keywords=micro+usb+to+micro+sd+card
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I Ihave an S6 and I purchased a micro OTG with 64B of storage - you can get larger ones I think - it connects to the USB and sticks out about a half inch - great for additional storage - I keep nandroids on it and connect it when I want to restore a previous nandroid - you can do a lot with it - not as good as an EXT SD card - but it works pretty well. and it is very small
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I had been using this 64GB with my ex S6E - works very well. Is mini size and not bulky at all. It is auto detect by the phone and N5 users had reported it works well with it too
http://www.sandisk.com/products/mobile-flash-drives/dualdrive/
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This is the solution. I love it. Fast reliable and very nice ...
Ya, my note 3 has 544GB of storage using a 512GB full size sd card. I used a smaller adapter than the amazon one mentioned above and fit it completely inside my zerolemon case with the extended battery. If you are looking at the back of the phone, it fits just to the right of the camera. No bulge or anything. It looks completely normal.
I bought this from Amazon for my S6 - will be using for extra storage on my NOTE 5 http://www.amazon.com/SanDisk-connector-Android-Devices--SDDD2-064G-G46/dp/B00RBGYGPG/ref=sr_1_4?s=pc&ie=UTF8&qid=1439999149&sr=1-4&keywords=micro+otg
Pretty small - and works well. Best option I found - would love to find one smaller (it is about 3/4 to 1 inch long - and about 1/2 inch wide or so - just guessing about the size but I think it is pretty close to that.
Why not use a wireless external hard drive? Its almost like your own personnel cloud. 4TB for $200. Don't have to worry about monthly payments or being on a network/WiFi.
I'm thinking about getting one myself. Any thoughts/experience with these?
http://www.amazon.com/Seagate-Portable-External-Storage-STDA4000100/dp/B00HXAV0X6
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Android_Fr3ak said:
Why not use a wireless external hard drive? Its almost like your own personnel cloud. 4TB for $200. Don't have to worry about monthly payments or being on a network/WiFi.
I'm thinking about getting one myself. Any thoughts/experience with these?
http://www.amazon.com/Seagate-Portable-External-Storage-STDA4000100/dp/B00HXAV0X6
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Ya, I use one in addition to the sd card on my phone. It's definitely not as fast as a micro sd card would be, but it's usable. I really notice it when browsing directories. If you have anything over say a 100 photos or movies in a folder it takes about 3-4 seconds to load which is kinda annoying. This is my experience with an N router and USB 3.0. I'm doing a SMB share.