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Quick Verification Hero on AT&T

I apologize for the post I know this information is around and believe me I have spent weeks searching and reading around before troubling you, However before I go and drop almost $600 on a phone I was hoping to just double check and get some verification that this should work.
I currently have a AT&T Tilt (aka the Kaiser) and have had it for a few years now. I very much would like to get my hands on a Hero.
Based on everything I have read both here and else where I should be able to take the existing sim card from my Tilt pop it into this phone and be good to go
http://www.negrielectronics.com/hero-usnam-unlocked-black-p-3037.html
Its the HTC Hero US/NAM 3G version that a few sites have been offering. From what I understand it is likely from Canada, I guess that Rogers wireless uses the same bands as AT&T for 3G ? (850/1900 if i recall).
Have we heard of anyone doing this successfully?
Any issues I should know about?
General issues with the phone? (I haven't really heard anything and as I said i've been googlin my butt off for weeks)
My general use other than a phone of course.
GPS - use it on my tilt all the time
Music - Currently have a Motorola Bluetooth FM transmitter, as well as a pair of Motorola bluetooth headphones
Web access, the tilt is great as a phone but the OS is just to clunky, I would rather wait till I get home or to the office most of the time to google something then use any of the browsers I have tried.
Pictures now and then, love having a camera in my phone to take some snaps of friends but the Tilts is horrible as we all know.
Any incite you can provide would be greatly appreciated
Thank you

snowmirage said:
I apologize for the post I know this information is around and believe me I have spent weeks searching and reading around before troubling you, However before I go and drop almost $600 on a phone I was hoping to just double check and get some verification that this should work.
I currently have a AT&T Tilt (aka the Kaiser) and have had it for a few years now. I very much would like to get my hands on a Hero.
Based on everything I have read both here and else where I should be able to take the existing sim card from my Tilt pop it into this phone and be good to go
http://www.negrielectronics.com/hero-usnam-unlocked-black-p-3037.html
Its the HTC Hero US/NAM 3G version that a few sites have been offering. From what I understand it is likely from Canada, I guess that Rogers wireless uses the same bands as AT&T for 3G ? (850/1900 if i recall).
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Looks to be the right model, at least according to the website. It's actually from Telus, which also uses the same 3G bands.
snowmirage said:
Have we heard of anyone doing this successfully?
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Yes, many people, including myself!
snowmirage said:
Any issues I should know about?
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Works great on AT&T, haven't noticed any connectivity issues. As a matter of fact, I actually get better signal with this phone than I did with my old phone (an LG Vu). Also you should have full access to the Market, so no worries about not being able to download apps.
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General issues with the phone? (I haven't really heard anything and as I said i've been googlin my butt off for weeks)
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None specific to the North American version or using it with AT&T. Sense UI can be a big laggy at times, but there's plenty of solutions in this forum for that. Other than that, I personally have no complaints. Look through this forum for other people's thoughts. In general, though, most people's experience has been pretty positive and I think the majority of people in this forum would say it's a great device. (again, just my opinion based on following this forum)
snowmirage said:
My general use other than a phone of course.
GPS - use it on my tilt all the time
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GPS works fine for me here in the US
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Music - Currently have a Motorola Bluetooth FM transmitter, as well as a pair of Motorola bluetooth headphones
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The music app is not the most advanced, but it gets the job done, and I don't mind it. The bonus is that if you don't like it, you can replace it.
snowmirage said:
Web access, the tilt is great as a phone but the OS is just to clunky, I would rather wait till I get home or to the office most of the time to google something then use any of the browsers I have tried.
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Browser's pretty good for a stock browser. Includes pinch-to-zoom and basic flash integration (a rarity on a phone). I like it. There's also alternatives for download in the Market, such as Dolphin, which is another great browser.
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Pictures now and then, love having a camera in my phone to take some snaps of friends but the Tilts is horrible as we all know.
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It's still a cell phone camera, albeit with a bigger sensor. I may be biased as a semi-professional photographer though. For a phone, it takes pretty good pictures, and the 5 megapixels is convenient, as you can usually actually see details in your pictures!
snowmirage said:
Any incite you can provide would be greatly appreciated
Thank you
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Overall, I'm very happy with my phone. I've had it since around Thanksgiving, and it's worked great. If you're buying it already unlocked, that simplifies things even further.
The one thing you'll have to do to get data and MMS working, though, is enter the proper APN settings so your phone knows how to get online. These come already on phones from AT&T, but not if you buy it elsewhere. They're easy enough to find by searching either this forum or Google for AT&T APN.
Hope you enjoy your Hero!

Thank you, Thank you, and Thank you! for all the info
Sounds like its a great phone, any of the minor issues seem to be things that are already 100x worse on my Tilt anyhow so it wont bother me any.
GOODBYE windows mobile!
Once I get the phone in I'll be sure to post the results for others reference.

I am a former Tilt user converted to the Telus Hero on AT&T and love every minute of it!.

Finally our own forum... Who's Getting one?

No brainer for me really, unless something truly revolutionary comes out of MWC (and you never know, HTC hasn't announced anything Tegra based yet and I am sure they will) then this is the phone that will finally make me ditch my Hero.
Anyone else as impressed as I was (and more importantly still impressed now the dust has settled?)
EDIT: Obviously I will be plumping for the 3G GSM version as our useless networks can't even do 3G coverage properly, let alone 4G

If it is released on vodafone UK then yeah if not no all the other networks suck. I'll just stick with my galaxy s.

I really like the look of it, butI am dubiuos to how good the webtop will be. What would be interesting if, we managed to pehaps mod it to be more of a full version of linux, pehaps ubuntu with a terminal

Think im still going to wait and see what samsung has up its sleeve with the next galaxy s, but i doubt its going to be released as quickly as the atrix so i might just jump ship to moto. Im sick of the stuttering/lag on my captivate.

peachpuff said:
Think im still going to wait and see what samsung has up its sleeve with the next galaxy s, but i doubt its going to be released as quickly as the atrix so i might just jump ship to moto. Im sick of the stuttering/lag on my captivate.
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It looks like my next upgrade, too. I was looking at buying a Revo to stream media to my upstairs TV, but this will do the trick perfectly!
Now I just need it to be a cheap upgrade with vodafone after April and I'm sorted

sebbo90 said:
I really like the look of it, butI am dubiuos to how good the webtop will be. What would be interesting if, we managed to pehaps mod it to be more of a full version of linux, pehaps ubuntu with a terminal
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yea, I'm definitely hoping the brilliant minds of the people here at xda will get ubuntu running rather than that custom webtop software.

Definitely getting one! Heres to hoping that the bootloader is unlocked. Oh please let it by unlocked!!

going to try to get from At&t without a contract on launch day.
don't want to give up my unlimited data plan
please motorola do something similar to HTC for the bootloader
fastboot oem unlock
please please please

I've got 2 upgrades saved up 2 of them on launch day for me! 1 to sell, 1 to play with

DS1495 said:
yea, I'm definitely hoping the brilliant minds of the people here at xda will get ubuntu running rather than that custom webtop software.
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OMG if this could happen I would be so stoked! I can't wait to get mine + laptop dock!

If the price is reasonable!

jchap2k said:
OMG if this could happen I would be so stoked! I can't wait to get mine + laptop dock!
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Yup, I'll definitely also be rockin' it with the laptop dock!

Unlocked bootloader = instapurchase

I'm gunna be getting one when upgrade come around and I hope they could mod webtop to ubuntu or put the ubuntu webtop feature(if achieved) in a ROM like CM7

You can put a check by my name, im getting one xD.
One question i have one of the old 5gb data plans, if i use an upgrade to get this phone will they force me to change my data plan?

I'd love to get one, but I'm on Sprint. To be honest, I think this is the best Android phone out there right now

If the price is reasonable and HTC doesn't come up with something similarly amazing in the mean time i'm certain to get one.

There's several things that give me pause about buying this phone.
1) AT&T. The probability of getting Android system updates seems low.
2) Motoblur. Hate it.
3) Locked bootloader.

1010011010 said:
There's several things that give me pause about buying this phone.
1) AT&T. The probably of getting Android system updates seems low.
2) Motoblur. Hate it.
3) Locked bootloader.
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I will go in reverse order....
3. You are aware ALL bootloaders are locked right? minus n1 & other dev phones. This phone will be rooted...
2. Look to #3.
1. Look to #3

I am going to wait until the Summer to pick one of these bad boys up. That should give the dev community time to get the ball rolling with this device.

Personal Radio Victory

I'm a light user and abuser of my Glacier and just hurtled another simple personal victory. So 2 nights ago my data for 4g stopped working completely, with out any reason or me tinkering with any settings. Last 2 days it's driving me nuts, a couple calls to customer service back and forth about towers, and technicians doing magical work behind the scenes the next 2 days. Yea right...
While looking up how to return my devices to S-on / stock boot loader I start thinking this is BS, leading to the thought of looking up other radios.I have yet do do this as normally my service has been fine, but I surely don't want to send MYglacier (you thought I was going to type touch) to another fool to mess with.
This afternoon I installed::: Radio - 12.62.60.27_26.13.04.19 ::: http://d-h.st/S9t ::: MD5 Sum: 220528cbb349dc2f267b54ca3685c9d2
Fast, quick connection, non-stop. I'm excited. Adb fastboot install took like 1 minutes to install and this entire evening my devices has been money. I am in the North East of the US and will add to this thread how the services is when I return home further North. Anyone who has the stock old radio, drop it, this radio is excellent so far in this region.
I will stress the fact that I read through 20 pages of threads from 2 years ago, just to make sure I understood the background behind what I was doing and why. That is why we, well why we should be here, to learn and to share our learning to make these devices live up to their potential. This isn't anything new, but I know a lot of people are looking for direct answers sometimes on specific things. Well here is one. OP with links is here ::::http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2115197

This is my first time to replace the radio on the mt4g! Thanks to Mackster248 for the DIY video. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lu2pAMl1vz8 So far I'm liking it. I'm better reception compare to stock radio. By the way what rom are you using on mt4g right now?

xdabphili said:
This is my first time to replace the radio on the mt4g! Thanks to Mackster248 for the DIY video. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lu2pAMl1vz8 So far I'm liking it. I'm better reception compare to stock radio. By the way what rom are you using on mt4g right now?
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Slimbean 4.3 by coderzs. I was going back and forth between Carbon, but Carbon gives me a lot of force closes in menu's. I've been waiting to catch a day I can post a bunch of logcats for him but now they are looking at 4.4 or whatever is beyond jb.
Slimbean does everything I need perfectly and is setup up exactly how I always wanted my easy to get to options. I dig the black keyboard with the blue accent buttons. I usually don't even need to navigate past my quick slide down menu. Now with the newer radio, this phone is money. I also picked up a battery from Amazon by the manufacturer Anker, it's a 1550 mAh, I just went 1d 3hours on a single charge using it regularly with 9hours of wifi on.

So far I have experienced better serivce in my home, now that I'm finally back, and also at work. For some reason at my job I would always have full bars, but no connectivity for 4g, now that problem is completetly gone. I'm going to also report back when I head into little to no serivce areas like Vermont / New Hampshire.

tonyMEGAphone said:
So far I have experienced better serivce in my home, now that I'm finally back, and also at work. For some reason at my job I would always have full bars, but no connectivity for 4g, now that problem is completetly gone. I'm going to also report back when I head into little to no serivce areas like Vermont / New Hampshire.
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Being using the radio around the North Texas metroplex and the radio is great! I rarely have no issues when using JB roms. Keep it up !!

5.1 Coming to the Turbo in mid June, according to a VZW engineer

See here:
https://plus.google.com/107679240815941684447/posts/SRbzCoSW9JX
More:
https://twitter.com/RDR0b11/status/605828513220816896

For the ones who are lazy in reading comments, this is the reason that this guy gives for the delay:
"Verizon delays on latest smartphones are due to Nationwide HD Voice. We want to make sure Software updates for HD Voice service is acceptable and does not impact voice quality. Verizon is the only company that has nationwide HD Voice in the USA. AT&T just has most metro cities here and there. T-Mobile and Sprint are way behind"
:good:
P.D. Maybe now is the time for the Maxx's users to complain about not getting 5.1 as well as the Turbo.

Doesn't the iPhone 6 have HD Voice already? I wonder why they didn't need to delay its release by months so they can test it.

Slartibartfast_ said:
Doesn't the iPhone 6 have HD Voice already? I wonder why they didn't need to delay its release by months so they can test it.
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From the same guy:
AC 1.0 is not just network related. The unique situation Verizon finds itself is having its original CDMA voice network.. Hard for us to dance around between LTE and CDMA to support VoLTE due to best signal strength in different environments. So with each device update, there is usually a few Qualcomm patches to improve that transition and try to cover all possible calling scenarios our customers may face in our network. And also supporting XLTE new bands. Some device updates turn on a new LTE band on a phone that might have been dormant in an earlier software build. 
And Qualcomm is not perfect, so some times when they improve on thing, they break another. So my job and many others in Verizon is to double check all software changes our devices take in... Hence the delay
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Mid Jun is 25 days away! Start your counters

Saw this, and was just about to post it, but you beat me to the punch!
I'm glad that its coming soon and that Verizon is finally communicating with us.
Sent from my soon-to-have-5.1 XT1254
Edit: I attached a an imgur link of the photo that Jose Arturo posted of the XT1254 running 5.1
http://i.imgur.com/TvVGuiY.jpg

jake7405 said:
Saw this, and was just about to post it, but you beat me to the punch!
I'm glad that its coming soon and that Verizon is finally communicating with us.
Sent from my soon-to-have-5.1 XT1254
Edit: I attached a an imgur link of the photo that Jose Arturo posted of the XT1254 running 5.1
http://i.imgur.com/TvVGuiY.jpg
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Huh looks like Kit Kat in the status bar. If that's the case, I'll stay on 4.4.4

i like that guy, its better explaining this than staying in the dark:
J.A. Post on Google+ said:
is not just network related. The unique situation Verizon finds itself is having its original CDMA voice network.. Hard for us to dance around between LTE and CDMA to support VoLTE due to best signal strength in different environments. So with each device update, there is usually a few Qualcomm patches to improve that transition and try to cover all possible calling scenarios our customers may face in our network. And also supporting XLTE new bands. Some device updates turn on a new LTE band on a phone that might have been dormant in an earlier software build.
And Qualcomm is not perfect, so some times when they improve on thing, they break another. So my job and many others in Verizon is to double check all software changes our devices take in... Hence the delay
Motorola is small potatoes on budget compared to Samsung and Apple. Delays are usually due to funding for test verifications on new device software. 
Jeeze, I should just shut up... Bye everyone 
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hmmmm. choices.............. Stay on root, or take the update........................
OR wait for rooted update!!!!
Patience........... patience...............

Or take the OTA, then root again.

Yeah he is right take update and then root. King root can root up to 5.1.1

wadamean said:
Yeah he is right take update and then root. King root can root up to 5.1.1
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Can Kingroot root the Droid Turbo? And if so, does it disable write protection?

Yes to the first and no to the second, there is a thread on it on the first page with lots of info.

Cases
Thank you very much, I could not find quality phone cases for our

JulesJam said:
Can Kingroot root the Droid Turbo? And if so, does it disable write protection?
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Guess I need to check out kingroot thread again - it didn't seem to be as baked as the current system / images root method.

Jaocagomez said:
Mid Jun is 25 days away! Start your counters
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Take "mid-June" with a grain of salt.
All that means is it probably won't come BEFORE then.
Note the Google + post has been deleted which was referenced in the op. So, actually there is no date promise anymore...
Yeah, there's a lot of built up anger towards Motorola and Verizon (should be directed towards Verizon), so any engineers/spokespeople who publicly post even good news at this point will get lots of backlash for broken promises, lack of past communication -- and rightly so. They need to learn from this instead of running away from it.

Technogen said:
Yes to the first and no to the second, there is a thread on it on the first page with lots of info.
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Got a link to the thread? Can't seem to find it.

Flowah said:
Got a link to the thread? Can't seem to find it.
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"Sorry followers... I got in trouble for Turbo announcement... Need to keep my mouth shut from now on... Enjoy Verizon services and our great devices. "

Nexus 6 is near identical internals.
VoLTE works fine sans camera and I'm certain that is software related.
So I'd take the VoLTE cause for the hold up with a grain of salt too. Especially since Verizon was so willing to ship it last year when it was clearly broken and would have shown in testing.

Galaxo60 said:
"Sorry followers... I got in trouble for Turbo announcement... Need to keep my mouth shut from now on... Enjoy Verizon services and our great devices. "
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I was asking about the Kingroot for Droid Turbo.

Sharp Aquos Crystal 306SH Root/ROM and deets- Dev's only

I am donating my Sharp Aquos Crystal to ONLY THE BEST DEVELOPERS. Its beat up and its been abused but there is potential in the phone for root, ROM and Mods. I will pick the developer and i'm basically hoping to send it to the best only! Please message me and let me know if you have any interest in doing substantial research on this phone and taking its code apart. I already tried and it needs a 3rd party program to access the boot-loader portion of the file system and ill tell you which one an provide a dropbox link to the loader you can download to get into it. I could easily take it apart and find a back-door but i work too often and cannot find the time to tear it down properly and look for vulnerabilities for free; Thus i am donating this phone as i will be replacing it with one i never dropped on the floor ;p cosmetically challenged yes, functionally operational YES. comes with a charger, box and receipt? YES. I want this phone to be developed into the most reliable and functional phone possible and if i have to do all the work myself... well i wont. or at least i wont share my findings if i have to spend time away from my family which is why i am DONATING this phone. I am a programmer for a very nice search engine we all use and i have already found 2 back-doors into the phone which i will also send over via PM. the problem is i cannot access the loader or storage from a PC using the standard drivers, only from within the phone. I need your help! You get a free beat up phone, and the opportunity to play with it. It will come loaded with Boost Unlimited to test the MMS, 4G, Calls etc. but i will only pay for 1 month. you MUST figure it out within 1 month! I can only spend 2 hours on my saturdays playing with it and i went back to my rooted G3 because it beats the Aquos in every category except for sleek design. however, i think this phone can be a powerhouse for entry level users and with its power i know it can be everyone's favorite device. I want ROMS. I want unattended root and i want this thing to be the leader in aftermarket mods. Can we make it happen? idk we will have to see. The CM team shot it down instantly and said SHARP will not release the loader in the US but i dont work for SHARP, so here in beautiful southern california i am safe playing with the software and you will be ok because no laws restrict us to OpenWare software like the rest of the messed up planet. I have permission from google to modify the software strictly for research so we are clear.
Message me and lets get this show on the road.
ill send it out via UPS and expect to see results in 1 month
-Jax Haxor
The Linux Guru
Windows Tester
Android for Lyfe
Lakai-The Shoes We Skate
Google works for me. I dont work for them

hey, ho... tonight i rooted my Crystal ( 306SH-Sprint ). We can talk later abut my method to root.
tell me what u need from my phone.
Kernel?
2nd Stage Loader?

Please I'd like to know how you did that.
Sent from my D6616 using XDA Free mobile app

skydsler said:
hey, ho... tonight i rooted my Crystal ( 306SH-Sprint ). We can talk later abut my method to root.
tell me what u need from my phone.
Kernel?
2nd Stage Loader?
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hi?how can I connected with you from facebook? My name on facebook is '??'

skydsler said:
hey, ho... tonight i rooted my Crystal ( 306SH-Sprint ). We can talk later abut my method to root.
tell me what u need from my phone.
Kernel?
2nd Stage Loader?
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hi?how can I connected with you from facebook? My name on facebook is '王迈' ，thank you a lot.wait for your reply.

jack_famous said:
I am donating my Sharp Aquos Crystal to ONLY THE BEST DEVELOPERS. Its beat up and its been abused but there is potential in the phone for root, ROM and Mods. I will pick the developer and i'm basically hoping to send it to the best only! Please message me and let me know if you have any interest in doing substantial research on this phone and taking its code apart. I already tried and it needs a 3rd party program to access the boot-loader portion of the file system and ill tell you which one an provide a dropbox link to the loader you can download to get into it. I could easily take it apart and find a back-door but i work too often and cannot find the time to tear it down properly and look for vulnerabilities for free; Thus i am donating this phone as i will be replacing it with one i never dropped on the floor ;p cosmetically challenged yes, functionally operational YES. comes with a charger, box and receipt? YES. I want this phone to be developed into the most reliable and functional phone possible and if i have to do all the work myself... well i wont. or at least i wont share my findings if i have to spend time away from my family which is why i am DONATING this phone. I am a programmer for a very nice search engine we all use and i have already found 2 back-doors into the phone which i will also send over via PM. the problem is i cannot access the loader or storage from a PC using the standard drivers, only from within the phone. I need your help! You get a free beat up phone, and the opportunity to play with it. It will come loaded with Boost Unlimited to test the MMS, 4G, Calls etc. but i will only pay for 1 month. you MUST figure it out within 1 month! I can only spend 2 hours on my saturdays playing with it and i went back to my rooted G3 because it beats the Aquos in every category except for sleek design. however, i think this phone can be a powerhouse for entry level users and with its power i know it can be everyone's favorite device. I want ROMS. I want unattended root and i want this thing to be the leader in aftermarket mods. Can we make it happen? idk we will have to see. The CM team shot it down instantly and said SHARP will not release the loader in the US but i dont work for SHARP, so here in beautiful southern california i am safe playing with the software and you will be ok because no laws restrict us to OpenWare software like the rest of the messed up planet. I have permission from google to modify the software strictly for research so we are clear.
Message me and lets get this show on the road.
ill send it out via UPS and expect to see results in 1 month
-Jax Haxor
The Linux Guru
Windows Tester
Android for Lyfe
Lakai-The Shoes We Skate
Google works for me. I dont work for them
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its mean that you didn't got root from this phone?

Software-Reply 306SH Aquos-Sharp-Haxor
skydsler said:
hey, ho... tonight i rooted my Crystal ( 306SH-Sprint ). We can talk later abut my method to root.
tell me what u need from my phone.
Kernel?
2nd Stage Loader?
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I already shipped the phone out to Palo Alto, CA. I have purchased another 306SH and I am waiting to hear back from the developer, a friend of mine from college. Hopefully by the end of the month we will have unattended root with a rom compatibility list. He has all the time we need to test and program the phone. I couldn't get past ROM upload without bricking the thing so maybe he will discover a better method. Like I said in my original post I only have a few hours a week to play with the code and its not enough time to test any configuration changes without losing my daily driver. (since my company blackberry doesnt make calls outside of company contacts list, I needed my personal phone still, but already replaced it.)
As far as the loader goes, i found a way in using ODIN4 but the newest update locked out the back door so once again i was stuck; my buddy is going to have to find another way into the folder. I will keep everyone posted on the results as i will be testing the first round next weekend. I'm currently playing in Kitchen with CM12 and testing the drivers in my box so worst case scenario i will find the right ROM config and stabilize it so we have at least 1 modifiable ROM to mess around with. I will release download links this coming weekend for the Alpha Release CM12 ROM and with any luck, we will have unattended root as well. I see great things coming soon for this device.
I am also working on a nice little camera mod that we will all use daily from an unreleased packet @ work and cooking it up for the Aquos so stay tuned! it should apk install on factory firmware which is what i will be testing after thursday evening.
Standby team Actual, We will have results soon Hooah!
-JaxHaxor
You're friendly neighborhood Haxor

no i am not connecting on Facebook sorry.

wangxiantaoye said:
its mean that you didn't got root from this phone?
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Successful root was achieved before i shipped it out using company software however i cannot release corporate software to the public since i have no way to remove it from the building (and i value my career.) but soon enough, i will provide source and links to the backdoor once we find the next one in the update. I just wish Sharp wasn't so dang grumpy about releasing their crap OS to developers. If they did, i'm sure most of the android community would be picking these 306's up off the shelves at an alarming rate. Oh well, sucks to be Sharp USA. When they want to collaborate to ID security risks, I will give them the exact same answer they gave me- "Nope i dont care who you are, you are not getting our OS pack or loader software."
hahaha we will see about that ;p
-JaxHaxor
Newport Beach, CA
Already broke windows 10- they paid me so much to show them how ;p

jack_famous said:
I already shipped the phone out to Palo Alto, CA. I have purchased another 306SH
I am also working on a nice little camera mod that we will all use daily from an unreleased packet @ work and cooking it up for the Aquos so stay tuned! it should apk install on factory firmware which is what i will be testing after thursday evening.
Standby team Actual, We will have results soon Hooah!
-JaxHaxor
You're friendly neighborhood Haxor
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wait for your testing after thursday evening and root is the first importent thing..

jack_famous said:
Successful root was achieved before i shipped it out using company software however i cannot release corporate software to the public since i have no way to remove it from the building (and i value my career.) but soon enough, i will provide source and links to the backdoor once we find the next one in the update. I just wish Sharp wasn't so dang grumpy about releasing their crap OS to developers. If they did, i'm sure most of the android community would be picking these 306's up off the shelves at an alarming rate. Oh well, sucks to be Sharp USA. When they want to collaborate to ID security risks, I will give them the exact same answer they gave me- "Nope i dont care who you are, you are not getting our OS pack or loader software."
hahaha we will see about that ;p
-JaxHaxor
Newport Beach, CA
Already broke windows 10- they paid me so much to show them how ;p
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Is there any good news for us about 306sh??

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wangxiantaoye said:
Is there any good news for us about 306sh??
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Nope, in fact the opposite. My friend couldn't get into the phone so I drove up to Palo Alto to help him out friday night over the past weekend and it was a train wreck. We salvaged the OP and called it quits first thing yesterday morning. He showed me his progress which was about as far as i got as well. So we threw the broken Aquos at a wall and I sold the nice new black one I purchased, to some guy off CraigsList for $30. Sorry guys but it needs too much work and without Sharp (Shāpu Kabushiki-gaisha) providing any information as to what driver/ loader sequence it is we need to tap into the chip via 3rd party, Its a lost cause. (my work console gets into it in under 30 seconds, tho it's very illegal and cannot be replicated without losing my career.) We tried everything for 20 hours straight the first day and 12 hours the 2nd when I finally stood up and tossed the phone down something like 4 flights of stairs and off the balcony. surprisingly enough, it didn't break easily.
I don't have time to tear down the code in terminal and cook the exploit since my job is 50 hours a week already. Any more wasted time on this project and I'll lose my car, job and likely my wife.
I recommend selling the crap Aquos and getting the S6 Edge, which I just picked up today. I already have root access using ODIN and a modified exploit i found on a chinese website and i'm working on a ROM for it as we speak.
Its just a damn shame that Sharp doesn't want their products to take off here in the States, seeing how well the Aquos performs. I explained it to them and they just said "nope! we will press charges if you pursue any further modification."
So Thats the end of that. sorry guys i really tried and my buddy worked for an entire week and only got to where i was after the first 48 hours. I see the exploit looking through the logs, but i was told federal charges will be filed if i release the exploit to the public in the form of auto-run APK which i also could not get running properly. It all comes down to the platform.
They didnt say anything about publiclysharing the code tho. I am having my wife look over the documents for legality issues and if she cant find anything stating raw-code release is applicable, i will release my logs from work and all the project work we have so far. its about 11gbs of logs and code and a few extra gigs of failed modified programs we wrote. Like i said, we tried it all
Perhaps one of you more fine tuned developers can work through my data and see what sort of application will backdoor into the system. As it stands today though, The latest firmware release is tighter than a tick's a$$ and downgrading is about as hard as getting weed legal in federal court.
As my buddy Rob says: "Basically, I can get into iOS' Pants in 12 minutes, but Sharp's Loader is wearing an electrified chastity belt and that b17CH swallowed the keys. We either wait for the next release and modify the stock update so it thinks it's a normal update, or wait for the company to get hammered and drop the pants to let us play."
I have absolute 0 hope for this device.
The Aquos is toasted as far as the modification community should be concerned.
Galaxy S6 Edge tho... This thing is a beast. Ill be releasing my findings tonight or tomorrow once i finalize this ROM modification (cooking up some extra settings, modifying prop and removing bloat + some LED and screen mods.)
I also pre-ordered the new Blackberry Venice that "supposedly runs android" through my companies pre-order form, so in the next couple months hopefully ill get my hands on that unit. BB's have been running Android/ linux based software for quite a while now (since 10.1) but it is emulated and not native. Hopefully, the "venice" developed by Samsung will yield some surprising performance and efficiency results that we all want and need.
Standby Team, I'm working as fast as i can, Hooah!
\\Your Friendly Neighborhood JaxHaxor
-Jack_Famous
Aquos=Obliterated
S6Edge=New/ in dev.
Still rocking the company Nextel-PTT BB 88xx Series
S6E findings will be posted in a separate thread. I will link the threads together in my next post.

jack_famous said:
I am donating my Sharp Aquos Crystal to ONLY THE BEST DEVELOPERS. Its beat up and its been abused but there is potential in the phone for root, ROM and Mods. I will pick the developer and i'm basically hoping to send it to the best only! Please message me and let me know if you have any interest in doing substantial research on this phone and taking its code apart. I could already tried and it needs a 3rd party program to access the boot-loader portion of the file system and ill tell you which one an provide a dropbox link to the loader you can download to get into it. I could easily take it apart and find a back-door but i work too often and cannot find the time to tear it down properly and look for vulnerabilities for free; Thus i am donating this phone as i will be replacing it with one i never dropped on the floor ;p cosmetically challenged yes, functionally operational YES. comes with a charger, box and receipt? YES. I want this phone to be developed into the most reliable and functional phone possible and if i have to do all the work myself... well i wont. or at least i wont share my findings if i have to spend time away from my family which is why i am DONATING this phone. I am a programmer for a very nice search engine we all use and i have already found 2 back-doors into the phone which i will also send over via PM. the problem is i cannot access the loader or storage from a PC using the standard drivers, only from within the phone. I need your help! You get a free beat up phone, and the opportunity to play with it. It will come loaded with Boost Unlimited to test the MMS, 4G, Calls etc. but i will only pay for 1 month. you MUST figure it out within 1 month! I can only spend 2 hours on my saturdays playing with it and i went back to my rooted G3 because it beats the Aquos in every category except for sleek design. however, i think this phone can be a powerhouse for entry level users and with its power i know it can be everyone's favorite device. I want ROMS. I want unattended root and i want this thing to be the leader in aftermarket mods. Can we make it happen? idk we will have to see. The CM team shot it down instantly and said SHARP will not release the loader in the US but i dont work for SHARP, so here in beautiful southern california i am safe playing with the software and you will be ok because no laws restrict us to OpenWare software like the rest of the messed up planet. I have permission from google to modify the software strictly for research so we are clear.
Message me and lets get this show on the road.
ill send it out via UPS and expect to see results in 1 month
-Jax Haxor
The Linux Guru
Windows Tester
Android for Lyfe
Lakai-The Shoes We Skate
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Could you release the 3rd party program to us to get into bootloader? We'll go on the work to get root.

jack_famous said:
Successful root was achieved before i shipped it out using company software however i cannot release corporate software to the public since i have no way to remove it from the building (and i value my career.) but soon enough, i will provide source and links to the backdoor once we find the next one in the update. I just wish Sharp wasn't so dang grumpy about releasing their crap OS to developers. If they did, i'm sure most of the android community would be picking these 306's up off the shelves at an alarming rate. Oh well, sucks to be Sharp USA. When they want to collaborate to ID security risks, I will give them the exact same answer they gave me- "Nope i dont care who you are, you are not getting our OS pack or loader software."
hahaha we will see about that ;p
-JaxHaxor
Newport Beach, CA
Already broke windows 10- they paid me so much to show them how ;p
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thanks for information and for your work .. what happen with tools and code that you have can you share it?

ok guys im sorry i have been AWOL this week we started a new project and i just dove into it so we havn't had time to re-work the code. My wife says there is a clause in the paperwork Sharp sent me stating i cannot release any portion of their software whether modified or not. so basically all i can release is the collaborative work i've done with Rob which isnt much because its mostly factory firmware modifications and common knowledge. needless to say, There is a reason we salvaged the OP.
I know alot of you have sent PM asking for clues and access to my software. I have tried to reply to all of you but you need to change your security settings here on XDA because even though you can send me a message, i cannot reply.
I will be sending out the first batch of ADB run-around to PM's that actually go through. The only loophole we can find is private collab which is legal in the US so once i get the first round out, i will email from my personal account the rest of the changes we had made.
*Note* Google is offering $40k USD for the exploits in the new software so you can understand my hesitance to release any loaders that can potentially tap into most phones' firmware systems. That's like handing over 40k for free. Ill tune up and debug the programs rob and i built and send them out but they do not work for the 306. And since i dont have the 306 anymore, i cannot test any more modifications.
Fastboot isn't the way into the 306. you need to get your hands on the initial (Extremely buggy) release, modify the prop and boot directory, and then let the phone update to the new software with the new settings. It will blackout and sit on the Aquos emblem for like 30 minutes, but once recovered the root stays. thats the only way we got it to even try to respond but still no SU access and /detect-root shows no success however there is now root folder access. Then using ADB push the old OS back onto it and it will keep modified folder access for root but will not boot completely at this point. that's as far as we got and couldn't move past it. I asked a coworker last week about it and he gave me some new ideas, however i dont have the phone anymore and i don't plan on purchasing another one since i have moved onto the S6 Edge and another project from work.
Im sorry guys but i'm out of time on the 306. I tried for more than 2 months and its a no-go. I have heard of people gaining root and removing GSM lock, but they have way too much time invested and completely re-wrote the directories by hand.
If you are still dead set on the 306SH, Download the newest firmware, http://www.sharpusa.com/Support/ProductDetail.aspx?modelid=9FCA5482-7A08-1BF8-7AA9-F29AF5CB9A19 and unpack it. connect to ADB and \fastboot-dirw acc1. then # mount -o remount,rw -t rfs /dev/block/st19/system, # exit.
Here is the problem. Permissions are set by something else in the ROM and when you attempt to push anything other than a verified update, it crashes. Not sure why. 18 hours on that subject alone -_-
When looking through the Unpacked ROM, It's like line 42-45 and you can see the malicious lockout, that when deleted bricks the phone. I played with the rom and couldn't figure out why every damn program uses the same sequence and references the same directory before it even begins to process. its a classic lock-out. Loader software barely bypasses it but you need to find the drain in the phone. There is an application somewhere that constantly reference checks the line 42 and if its not present, the phone shuts down and bootloader locks up.
Do yourself a favor and upgrade. Its an outstanding phone, but its not worth the headache.
This thread will be deleted in about a month so PM me and make sure you can receive a response.
OP 306SH-Decomissioned permanently unless i get another one. sorry guys. And i go back to school monday for summer classes so i wont be working on anything except work projects for the next 8 weeks. But I will be back with some excellent news for the S6 Edge by sunday night. I have root and I'm on day 5 of my custom ROM and this thing is Fast! like whoa thats a powerPC fast. I recommend the Edge to anyone struggling with the 306. Samsung really stepped it up.
Your friendly neighborhood Haxor,
Jack Famous
Take care.
ohhh i almost forgot, http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2684210
This is the method that DOES NOT WORK. the second one gives some access but permissions are all screwed up like i said earlier. Somebody needs to tear it completely down.

I took a look at psneuter and the root concept mentioned in that thread for method 2. Didn't see anything that would determine permissions to be out of wack. Could you explain what you are referring to @jack_famous?

This thread is totally crap.

tewilove said:
This thread is totally crap.
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This device is totally crap lol.

jack_famous said:
ok guys im sorry i have been AWOL this week we started a new project and i just dove into it so we havn't had time to re-work the code. My wife says there is a clause in the paperwork Sharp sent me stating i cannot release any portion of their software whether modified or not. so basically all i can release is the collaborative work i've done with Rob which isnt much because its mostly factory firmware modifications and common knowledge. needless to say, There is a reason we salvaged the OP.
I know alot of you have sent PM asking for clues and access to my software. I have tried to reply to all of you but you need to change your security settings here on XDA because even though you can send me a message, i cannot reply.
I will be sending out the first batch of ADB run-around to PM's that actually go through. The only loophole we can find is private collab which is legal in the US so once i get the first round out, i will email from my personal account the rest of the changes we had made.
*Note* Google is offering $40k USD for the exploits in the new software so you can understand my hesitance to release any loaders that can potentially tap into most phones' firmware systems. That's like handing over 40k for free. Ill tune up and debug the programs rob and i built and send them out but they do not work for the 306. And since i dont have the 306 anymore, i cannot test any more modifications.
Fastboot isn't the way into the 306. you need to get your hands on the initial (Extremely buggy) release, modify the prop and boot directory, and then let the phone update to the new software with the new settings. It will blackout and sit on the Aquos emblem for like 30 minutes, but once recovered the root stays. thats the only way we got it to even try to respond but still no SU access and /detect-root shows no success however there is now root folder access. Then using ADB push the old OS back onto it and it will keep modified folder access for root but will not boot completely at this point. that's as far as we got and couldn't move past it. I asked a coworker last week about it and he gave me some new ideas, however i dont have the phone anymore and i don't plan on purchasing another one since i have moved onto the S6 Edge and another project from work.
Im sorry guys but i'm out of time on the 306. I tried for more than 2 months and its a no-go. I have heard of people gaining root and removing GSM lock, but they have way too much time invested and completely re-wrote the directories by hand.
If you are still dead set on the 306SH, Download the newest firmware, http://www.sharpusa.com/Support/ProductDetail.aspx?modelid=9FCA5482-7A08-1BF8-7AA9-F29AF5CB9A19 and unpack it. connect to ADB and \fastboot-dirw acc1. then # mount -o remount,rw -t rfs /dev/block/st19/system, # exit.
Here is the problem. Permissions are set by something else in the ROM and when you attempt to push anything other than a verified update, it crashes. Not sure why. 18 hours on that subject alone -_-
When looking through the Unpacked ROM, It's like line 42-45 and you can see the malicious lockout, that when deleted bricks the phone. I played with the rom and couldn't figure out why every damn program uses the same sequence and references the same directory before it even begins to process. its a classic lock-out. Loader software barely bypasses it but you need to find the drain in the phone. There is an application somewhere that constantly reference checks the line 42 and if its not present, the phone shuts down and bootloader locks up.
Do yourself a favor and upgrade. Its an outstanding phone, but its not worth the headache.
This thread will be deleted in about a month so PM me and make sure you can receive a response.
OP 306SH-Decomissioned permanently unless i get another one. sorry guys. And i go back to school monday for summer classes so i wont be working on anything except work projects for the next 8 weeks. But I will be back with some excellent news for the S6 Edge by sunday night. I have root and I'm on day 5 of my custom ROM and this thing is Fast! like whoa thats a powerPC fast. I recommend the Edge to anyone struggling with the 306. Samsung really stepped it up.
Your friendly neighborhood Haxor,
Jack Famous
Take care.
ohhh i almost forgot, http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2684210
This is the method that DOES NOT WORK. the second one gives some access but permissions are all screwed up like i said earlier. Somebody needs to tear it completely down.
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http://www.sharpusa.com/Support/ProductDetail.aspx?modelid=9FCA5482-7A08-1BF8-7AA9-F29AF5CB9A19
Unable to download a copy of the document you can give me? Thank you!

tewilove said:
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i lost faith in rooting my device after reading this thread and i cannot temp root either mine is later version .....now what??