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[Q] Flashing to Android

Hey all, I've been browsing around the forums trying to find answers but I must not be fully comprehending what's being explained.
I recently got a HTC HD2 (Person sent wrong phone on eBay - Purchased a HTC Desire after 4 weeks receive HD2 can't be without a phone for another month or 2). After playing around with Windows Mobile OS I have decided that I don't enjoy the experience of using the phone and have decided to try and flash Android to the device (thus why I am here).
I'm about to update the ROM to the latest official ROM from the HTC website (to update the Radio to get ready for flashing) however my problem lies after this.
I currently have a 2GB MicroSD card. "A breif guide to installing and maintaining Android" recommends a 4GB MicroSD card where others say I may use a 512MB MicroSD card. Thus leading to my confusion in flashing my device.
If anyone could point me in the right direction with the size of the sdcard I need and a "fool-proof" guide to flashing, or even a guide written for the average Joe to understand I would appreciate it.
Kind regards.

Well firstly, it doesnt matter what size of card you have aslong as it can hold the android files and your data.img (internal storage file).
Second, You can not currenly "flash" any android to your phone, You only have the ability to reboot your phone into android OS and this would be ran from your sd card, Your phone in no way will be altered or flashed with any rom.
I will not attempt to tell you how to accomplish this as its a ridiculous question to ask as its obviously a faq and has been asked too many times and answered too many times..
Read, guides, read build topics, learn!

TheATHEiST said:
Well firstly, it doesnt matter what size of card you have aslong as it can hold the android files and your data.img (internal storage file).
Second, You can not currenly "flash" any android to your phone, You only have the ability to reboot your phone into android OS and this would be ran from your sd card, Your phone in no way will be altered or flashed with any rom.
I will not attempt to tell you how to accomplish this as its a ridiculous question to ask as its obviously a faq and has been asked too many times and answered too many times..
Read, guides, read build topics, learn!
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Thank you for the quick response. I've been reading all I can here, however, it seems that everything is going over my head (such as things like SPL and Radio Versions). I'm not looking for a free ride with doing this, I'm just trying to find some assistance in a way I can understand.

Mods, please close this thread. I have solved my problem.
Kind regards.

Dual Boot Possible with NAND ROMS?

I haven't bothered installing the MAGLDR yet because I am very comfortable with my setup, I have windows mobile 6.5 with android SD, however would it be possible to dual boot Windows Phone 7 with android or Windows Mobile 6.5 on the Nand? Like for the TMOUS1024 devices? I've read on the chinese site for the DFT that its possible but the instructions are very hard to understand. I can't be the only one wondering this or wanting this? Any ideas guys?

I too would love the ability to dual boot, whether it be dual-nand, or WP7 as an SD build (and Android NAND).
Any chance of this happening, devs?

Right now u can dual boot Android NAND and Android SD.
Windows 7 NAND and Android SD but this is too complex. u need to make two partitions on the SD card.

I too would like to still run wm 6.5 as my main os and boot WM7 and Android from my Sd cards. I would also like to know if this is possible.

Is it possible to boot a SD android version via magldr?
Mine freezes if I choose Boot Android SD :/
Using 1.12

kelvin_swe said:
Right now u can dual boot Android NAND and Android SD.
Windows 7 NAND and Android SD but this is too complex. u need to make two partitions on the SD card.
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I would love to try "Windows 7 NAND and Android SD" even If it is complex. Do have a detailed instruction on how to do this, or know where I can find one?
Thanks.

i think in the future u should be able to dual boot both from nand if u have the 1024leo because the windows phone 7 rom only uses half of the nand

WOOZ!E said:
I would love to try "Windows 7 NAND and Android SD" even If it is complex. Do have a detailed instruction on how to do this, or know where I can find one?
Thanks.
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darrengladysz wrote a good tutorial explaining that. here is the link to that thread.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=913815

Someway of dual booting wm 6.5 and wp7 would be awesome.

Wraith_17 said:
Someway of dual booting wm 6.5 and wp7 would be awesome.
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Yeah, that's what I'm talking about. Is WP7 only available on NAND?

Hey...
Yeah, darren wrote an excellent tutorial, it`s pretty simple to dual boot with that (the partitioning only takes loooooooong)
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=913815
I will add the link to a tutorial I made afterwards which includes his tutorial and adds the instruction how to boot Core Droid HD 0.4 as an option for an android build to actually dual boot.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=10689007&postcount=1106
I used this build (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=801607) for over a month and all I can say is that this is the best Desire HD Sense build I've tried!!! (fast and stable)
So enjoy WP7 Nand and Android SD TOGETHER!!!
Greetz
Dom

masondoctorjt said:
I too would like to still run wm 6.5 as my main os and boot WM7 and Android from my Sd cards. I would also like to know if this is possible.
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thats exactly what i want too, does anyone know if this would be possible?

Dual boot from NAND only
Well, just the question I wanted to ask (OP, not the hijacking posts):
WM 6.5 (or WP7) NAND partition 1, Android partition 2.
At least that's the idea. Two OS's from the faster NAND memory, rather than the slower SD. Only applicable, of course, to the 1024MB version of the HD2. I know this is difficult, but if the chinese are doing it, why can't we ? This would just make this phone more awesome than it already is.
Can anyone answer if this is possible or not, and if not, why?

hondoslack said:
Well, just the question I wanted to ask (OP, not the hijacking posts):
WM 6.5 (or WP7) NAND partition 1, Android partition 2.
At least that's the idea. Two OS's from the faster NAND memory, rather than the slower SD. Only applicable, of course, to the 1024MB version of the HD2. I know this is difficult, but if the chinese are doing it, why can't we ? This would just make this phone more awesome than it already is.
Can anyone answer if this is possible or not, and if not, why?
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What chinese are doing it? I've never seen 2 OS's both on nand on a phone anywhere... even those cheap chinese fakes that claim to run both wm and android are just running android off the sd.
I, too, hope one day someone makes this possible... but not sure if it will happen or possible yet.
Also, HD2 NAND is not faster than a good quality SD in most cases. You might get a little better random access speed from nand, but if you find a good sd, even that is probably about equal. Even WP7 is now using SD cards as internal memory, now, but you need a good SD card that matches the NAND speed for it to work right. SD Android builds run at the same speed as NAND builds in most cases, but most SD builds aren't updated like NAND builds are.
But anyways, I agree that I would like to see 2 OS's from NAND on our phones.

WOOZ!E said:
I would love to try "Windows 7 NAND and Android SD" even If it is complex. Do have a detailed instruction on how to do this, or know where I can find one?
Thanks.
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I have a nice tutorial on how to do this. You have to be careful to choose the right SD Android Builds which you can use. There are only a few which are compatibe with SD Magldr. In my thread there are some of the more popular ones which has been converted to work with more coming shortly.
When Nand first came out there were a tutorial which I came across to convert SD Builds into Nand so in theory reversing the process you might be able to convert Nand back to SD and convert that to work with Magldr. It is something I have been wanting to look into for a few weeks now so I might just make it a priority of mine cause any build to dual boot with WP7 would be pretty awesome.

I think its possible, but its difficult because Windows properity OS may conflict with Androids OS so someone would have to configure it so that they both won't conflict with each other.

Thanks for the participation! That chinese bit was mostly to just stir the pot a bit .

[Q] About to Flash WP7 couple of questions

I have done a ton of reading today but can't seem to find some last answers.
I do apologize, but I've been coming in and out of these forums for years and flashing various phones on occaision so I'm comfortable but no expert.
I have a TMOUS HD2 (yellow reset key) with the stock wm6 rom installed.
I've been running Android MDjGingerbread v.1.0 for a couple months and it's GREAT.
Now I want to try out WP7.
Questions:
1. I have everything downloaded and ready to go but am not sure about the radio. as I understand it I (as a tmous owner) have to MAKE SURE that the radio that's packaged with the WP7 doesn't get written? how do I do that? Or am I confused on this.
2. As I'm currently happy with the install I have on the SD card for android I'm going to remove this SD card prior to flashing WP7 So it doesn't get overwritten. HOWEVER I'm wondering will I be able to re-install this SD card after getting WP7 all set up and unlocked and doing everything needed to the SD card I use for the WP7 install.. .Can I remove that SD card and replace it with the one that has the Android Rom I've had such good luck with? and then boot to that android build from WP7 like I did from Winmo6? Or will I have to sort out a fresh android install to the SD card.
3. Are DFT WP7 roms already registry edited so they appear as HD7's or does that need to be done prior to trying to get an unlock code from MS. If so where's a link to that? I can't seem to find instructions on that.
LASTLY. I understand you can actually run all 3. winmo6 in nand and WP7 partition/Android Partition off the SD card.
What I don't get is if you have to Nand flash the WP7 first to get all the settings straight and copy that install to the partitioned SD card... THEN put the android build I want on the other partition? Or Can WP7 be run from SD card for the whole process? I'd prefer to just leave the stock rom alone. Although obviously not completely against it.
Any/All help is greatly appreciated.
Mods feel free to delete and PM me with links if I missed these answers in an obvious spot.

You do expect a PM from a mod, sending you links to obvious spots?
Hmmm... I guess that won´t happen. But maybe you read too much, overlooking some of the "obvious" spots inside the stickies of each subforum.
Anyway, now to your questions:
1) WP7 ROMs don´t come with Radio ROM parts.
Note: To install MAGLDR, check this thread here. Here you´ll learn about requirements. If you had a NAND Android build, you´ll be familiar with this - but please make sure to use MAGLDR 1.12 or higher with WP7.
2) There is a tutorial to dual boot WP7 and Android: Click!
3) The very first "Leo70" ROM is not jailbroken, virtually all others are
4) No triple boot possible yet, only WP7 and Android or WinMo 6.5 and Android.

Thanks So much.

Shoulda just kept reading. It's up and running 100pct now.
Just got to figure out why I cant get it to see the SD card.
but I think I saw some notes on that. I'll go back and read tomorrow.

Purchasing HD2 today and need some newbie pointers

Yes, I did see this sticky with links, but that is by no means a starting point for a total newbie, and by newbie I don't mean someone that's incapable of following instructions, as I've gone through several ROM's on my Pre, G1, myTouch 3G, EPIC 4G, iPhone/3G/3GS. I am just new to WP7 and that sticky doesn't really explain where to start.
Specifically, I am getting a used HD2 with WM6 on it and I want to end up with a dual-bool WM7/Android system on it. I just saw that was possible, but saw different combinations and different methods: WP7 on NAND & Android on SD and viceversa, etc.
Any tips would be appreciated.

First install hspl,than flash a good radio, then magldr,then clockwork mod and then flash a great android rom
Or for win phone stop at magldr and flash win phone ...i know its very short but you will have Tor search for a tutorial for each because there is much to say )).if there is a special question write me a PM
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jonas2295 said:
First install hspl,than flash a good radio, then magldr,then clockwork mod and then flash a great android rom
Or for win phone stop at magldr and flash win phone ...i know its very short but you will have Tor search for a tutorial for each because there is much to say )).if there is a special question write me a PM
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Short yes, but actually, that should give me a starting point, even though it did not explain which OS I should flash on NAND and which on SD or why, which sounds like one of the first things I need to decide. But yes, I guess I will need to do a lot of reading before knowing my path. Thanks.

Hi,
First of all you can't have WM7 and Android at the same time, or else, if you had a TMOUs you will find some tutorials to doi it.
I recommend you to search, you will find aht you are looking for.
At xda-developers.com first page you will find a link to how to do it... ok I give you a tip : http://www.xda-developers.com/android/complete-guide-to-installing-nand-android-on-hd2/
And I think this is not the correct forum to ask this
See you

ok lets clear this up, HSPL, radio, MAGLDR, flash WP7, then follow tutorial to install android as well
Ive not bothered, since i moved to WP7 from android you couldnt pay me to go back, but i think the process is basically, install WP7 with a working small SD card, take SD card and clone it to a bigger SD card and then install android on the SD, there are plenty of tutorials on all this,.
also to be clear, you MUST install WP7 to NAND, it uses the SD card as well, you cant use it just on SD, so if you want android its (or it was the last time i checked) NAND+SD for WP7 and a alternate partition for android.

OK, doest your purchase seems to you as some sort of DEVELOPMENT? I guess not. SO why the hell are you placing your question in development section?
And are you joking about that you dont know where to start? You want dual boot WP7 device. Ok, what about looking for a thread about -fanfare- how to dual boot WP7 and android? And yes, it is present on this forum and I gues it has sticky on it.
YOU ARE LAZY!

dazza9075 said:
ok lets clear this up, HSPL, radio, MAGLDR, flash WP7, then follow tutorial to install android as well
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You might have to flash a older original hd2 rom first(1.66....something).
chumaj001 said:
OK, doest your purchase seems to you as some sort of DEVELOPMENT? I guess not. SO why the hell are you placing your question in development section?
And are you joking about that you dont know where to start? You want dual boot WP7 device. Ok, what about looking for a thread about -fanfare- how to dual boot WP7 and android? And yes, it is present on this forum and I gues it has sticky on it.
YOU ARE LAZY!
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The man has got a point.

chumaj001 said:
OK, doest your purchase seems to you as some sort of DEVELOPMENT? I guess not. SO why the hell are you placing your question in development section?
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Because I'm USING developers' work and asking them about it, like 90% of the users of this forum. Not everyone who posts here is a cook.
chumaj001 said:
And are you joking about that you dont know where to start? You want dual boot WP7 device. Ok, what about looking for a thread about -fanfare- how to dual boot WP7 and android? And yes, it is present on this forum and I gues it has sticky on it.
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Definitely not joking and that thread (which isn't stickied, by the way) is hardly the starting point I'm looking for, since it starts assuming you already have Gingerbread on your HD2 and you know that's now how they come from HTC or your local carrier. See part 1 video for yourself.
chumaj001 said:
YOU ARE LAZY!
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No need for this.
caedanne said:
First of all you can't have WM7 and Android at the same time, or else, if you had a TMOUs you will find some tutorials to doi it.
I recommend you to search, you will find aht you are looking for.
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Searching is how I found out you definitely can have both.

It should be in general,
but just used two working SD cards it easy one for wm7 on nand and the other for Android on SD
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Your solution lies here...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=913815
if you want to run both wp7 and android it is possible but you will have to flash wp7 nand as uptill now it is the only way to flash wp7 on (nand) and android on your sd card that way you will have both the worlds..

So I have both WP7 and Android booting now (woohoo!), but I still have one problem left, as explained in this thread. Could you guys advise? Thank you.

Here's your problem.
it looks like you didn't have an SD card in your phone when you flashed WP7 or something, you should have like a 3.5gb "unknown" partition if u used a 4gb card the first time. Here's how are/were supposed to do it.
Flash WP7 with a smaller micro SD card than you plan on using (you have to use 2 micro SD cards for this to work, one "big" and one "small") let's use a 4gb for this example and a 16gb.
put your 4gb small microsd in the phone and flash WP7, load up WP7 for the first time and do some set-up.
turn off your phone
put the 4GB card into your computer's SD card reader, and open up that partition manager, you will see a 3.5gb partition. If you have another card reader put in your 16gb and copy the parition from the 4gb to the 16gb, if you don't have a card reader then copy it to your PC or any flash drive with more than 4gb, then take out the 4gb micro sd and put in the 16.
copy the 3.5 partition to your 16gb big card and when it's done, you should see like 11gb unallocated and 3.5 unknown and 200mb ntfs or something.
resize the 200mb as high as you can (11.5gb) or something), then reformat it to fat32.
copy your Android build to the new fat 32 and put the 16gb card back into your phone.
You should now be good to go. WP7 has 3.5gb of space and Android has 11.5 or something. Do not EVER start WP7 without this SD card in there or it will hard reset and you will have no space for WP7

I am finishing the entire process again. This time, I used a different guide for the partitioning. It's very similar, but I think there's one little step in this one that was excluded from the other one and it's critical. Specifically, I'm referring to steps 2, 3 and 7 of Method # 3. Basically, after you've done the partitions in step 4, you must let WP7 reset again. I actually forgot this and experienced the 10GB... 10MB problem again. At that point, I manually reset settings again and was able to get my exact total and available storage right after the phone booted back up. Right now, I'm booting up my Android OS for the first time, but I did boot up WP7 twice successfully, with the right storage amounts.

What's the latest guide to create a dual boot system?

Please don't eat me alive for asking something that's already in these forums. The problem is I've seen several guides in different forums (WP7, Android SD, Android NAND) and these are usually old threads in old stickies. I was wondering if there was an updated, moar better guide that would make the process either easier to follow or provide other benefits that were not available when these were first created.
By the way, I have followed these in the past and used to have WP7 on NAND and several Android builds on SD, but it's been a while now and don't really remember much of it.
Thank you.
P.S. If this happens to belong in the General section, by all means please move it there. I wasn't sure.

Razor1973 said:
Please don't eat me alive for asking something that's already in these forums. The problem is I've seen several guides in different forums (WP7, Android SD, Android NAND) and these are usually old threads in old stickies. I was wondering if there was an updated, moar better guide that would make the process either easier to follow or provide other benefits that were not available when these were first created.
By the way, I have followed these in the past and used to have WP7 on NAND and several Android builds on SD, but it's been a while now and don't really remember much of it.
Thank you.
P.S. If this happens to belong in the General section, by all means please move it there. I wasn't sure.
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The best guide to follow is linked in the rom below. I have used this method many times with CAB Sender to resize the non win7 partition - i.e. driod sd boot option. I believe new Magldr may rework these functions and allow upto 8 partitions meaning 8 different OS. :good:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1356833

Thanks! Turns out all I had to do was use my Nokia phone to format my SD card. LOL I am not sporting WP7 and Jelly Bean! Except now, I can't boot up WP7. It says the SD card is corrupted. Ugh.