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Service Pack Two Question

This may sound numb but how do we undertsand if a computer has service pasck 2 installed? I am asking this because I am using w2000 and planning to do the upgrade to 2005 by using one of my friends laptop. Or is it possible to upgrade through w2000?
Thanks in advance...

a bit cunfused there
there is a os called pocketpc 2000 it's very old
and no himalaya device have ever come with it installed they come with
WM2003
there is an os called windows 2000 it's workstion and server based
and came before XP it's current service pack is 4 i believe
any himalaya device can be upgraded to 2005 as far as i know
so if you are talking about the MW servicepack which is included in
1.72 then i would not worry too much

ok let me explain.
I bought an T Mobile MDA II yesterday and it is on the way from Germany to Sweden now. Since I am totally new to this, I am trying to read all the things that I can that is relevant to ugrading my MDA II ROM to 2005. I think I figured out how to do it, but the only problem I have is that I do not have a PC (not moble ) installed XP on it. All I have is a PC which has windows 2000 running on it. I am asking is it possible to upgrade my MDAII to 2005 using my PC which has Windows 2000 on it.
Since according to the instructions of buzz to upgrade to 2005, the PC that you are using should have XP with a service pack 2 installed. I got a friend who has a laptop with the XP installed but I do not know if this laptop has SP2 installed. So the second question is how can I undersatnd if a computer has SP2 installed.
Thanx...

if activesync works then the upgrade works
if activesync works (i'm sure it does) you can check on activesync's site at ms
or try it out

Thanks Rudegar,
I have just installed the AcvtiveSync to my machine that has w2000 on it. It seems that it is working. Now waiting for my machine to arrive :lol:

dr_cikolata said:
Thanks Rudegar,
I have just installed the AcvtiveSync to my machine that has w2000 on it. It seems that it is working. Now waiting for my machine to arrive :lol:
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if you want to know if it is sp2(winxp) installed...right click the ''my computer''>''properties''
you can upgrade to sp2(winxp) for free, just simply click the "windows update'' in your pc.
you can install the AS4 to win2k / 2k3 / winxp but i don't think if you can sync(wm5) it but not all...just try it.

windows vista for pocket pc

i saw a video where someone is showing his jasjar device with windows vista on it,so if someone has it,could you please post it here
this is the video where i saw it
http://youtube.com/watch?v=J7_9MHuZHPE

Remote desktop.

LOL! You like to have this realy slow Vista on you're PPC??

It's actually quite quick once you get it going
Just a shame its only a qvga screen really - not much point to it.

do you know, where can I get it??? pls

There is no windows vista for any pocketpc, this is remote desktop mobile app whic is connected over wifi or other network to a vista pc
so you can not get it from anywhere because it simply does not exist

"do you know, where can I get it??? pls"
you already have it it's called therminal services
it's in your pda

HTC has windows Vista Business on one of it's handsets
check www.GSMarena.com
http://www.gsmarena.com/htc_shift-1934.php

ahassouna said:
HTC has windows Vista Business on one of it's handsets
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The CPU of that device is an actual x86 device, the same as is in your PC. It's basically an ultra-small laptop. Meanwhile your phone has an ARM RISC chipset which is totally incompatible with Windows PC editions.

Nice scam
Hehe, nice to see, "Lokaal Station (C" in Dutch has got 18,5 GB free on his phone.. lol, would like to have that
(Local Disk (C)

windows vista is not for pocket pc and most probably this video might be of remote desktop or wisbar advance ...
however i heard rumors about an xp phone by hp...
I even have screenshots...

Aju Joy said:
windows vista is not for pocket pc and most probably this video might be of remote desktop or wisbar advance ...
however i heard rumors about an xp phone by hp...
I even have screenshots...
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It is called xpphone (not too original on the name if you ask me), but it isn't from HP (at least not the one I saw)

Windows Server 2008

This may be hard to believe but windows 2008 server Standard is FAR FASTER than running Vista SP1 on your Shift.
I have installed Server 2008 today and it runs really quickly. It also runs with approximately 490MB of RAM free and responds to starting applications much better...
There are however a few issues........
1. ShagCtrl.exe doesn't run properly it complains about WLANAPI.DLL not being present.
2. The touch screen doesn't work.
Everything else does and works much faster than using VISTA.
Anyone post for me the WLANAPI.DLL so i don't have to re-install vista just to get it please and let me know where it should be placed...
Thanks

Fascinating !!
You actually did what I didn't dare to do.. !!
I assume that there are a few people here capable of delivering what you asked.
The problem might be the touchscreen drivers, to get those working...
I'll keep a close watch on this thread.
One question, did you delete the recovery partition ?
ANother question, did you attach an external DVD an booted from it ?
In the boot menu, there's no option , maybe I should attach a USB DVD or Ethernet connection ?
EDIT : forgot to say that there's postings on this forum offering the drivers seperately. Maybe you can install them ?

Drivers and stuff
Yeah kept the recovery partition F3+FN intact.......
Booted off an external USB DVD device (which shows up on FN+F10)
I have all the drivers separately but was missing some DLLs.
Recovered to VISTA last night and copied off Program Files & WINDOWS to capture all the DLLs and infs....
Re-installing 2008 Server now...
Will let you know how i get on........ But it's sooooo much quicker.....
Microsoft really have optimised Server 2008 over Vista even though is shares some of the same kernel.........
I think a better way forward is to get it to work with Server 2008....
Regards
Blitz

wow, great job mate, but how much does server 2008 cost?
and is it worth that cost, considering vista is installed free?
Rory

I'm an MSND member (Technet PLUS) which sets you down about 400$ a year. In return, you can install any OS they ever made with a key. 4 timees per key if im correct. So m Windows 2008 is payed for already, but understand not everybody has technet plus from microsoft.
It's a darn good deal.

If you do get ShagCtrl and VitaKey work with your Windows server 2008 I think that might make me install Server 2008 as well.
Good Luck and let us know how it turns out!

sorry for my ignorance, but does Server 2008 behave in a similar way to Vista? can you install the same apps? i.e. would Skype work? what would be the main disadvantages of doing this?

Synchronize X1 with W7 x86 beta?

I don't have any luck with connecting my X1 to my computer running Windows 7 beta 32-bit.
Windows mobile device center just stops working.
Anyone tried this and got it to work?

It works for me on Windows 7 Beta 32-bit.
I let Windows Update install any software it could find, got the sync centre and devices program up and running.

yep works fine here i just installed the wmdc 6.1 for vista and it works, do you have av or firewall interfering?

Nope crashes Activesync here as well. The phone still connects tho, and can be browsed via explorer

use windows mobile device manager, download that and it will sync fine...i already use Windows 7 to flash, so everything works fine. if you install that

if there is no other way for you labaan, try to use vm-ware and install xp32
into vmware. i`ve flashed one of my phones with vm-ware under server 2003 (32bit).
for example, the nokia software is not installable under 2003. (wrong os error)
vm-ware works (under 2003) fine.

THJahar said:
Nope crashes Activesync here as well. The phone still connects tho, and can be browsed via explorer
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Are you using the win 7 beta?
activesync is for XP it's not the right program to use at all!

Hey Win 7 users... howz it going so far? I loved the new Beta! it was faster than Vista and more stable too... but i reverted back to vista for the time being. But already Vista is giving me troubles so i'm thinking of moving up again... what say you?

msalmank said:
Hey Win 7 users... howz it going so far? I loved the new Beta! it was faster than Vista and more stable too... but i reverted back to vista for the time being. But already Vista is giving me troubles so i'm thinking of moving up again... what say you?
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dual boot! works for me

fards said:
dual boot! works for me
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When it's a laptop you wanna install to, i prefer keeping one OS. I just replaced my Vista on the desktop with Windows 7... i guess if that holds fine i'll move to Windows 7 on my laptop as well.

fards said:
Are you using the win 7 beta?
activesync is for XP it's not the right program to use at all!
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Sorry meant Windows Mobile Device Centre (It wont even launch just crashes straight away)
msalmank said:
When it's a laptop you wanna install to, i prefer keeping one OS. I just replaced my Vista on the desktop with Windows 7... i guess if that holds fine i'll move to Windows 7 on my laptop as well.
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I Love Windows 7, it's what that bloody awful Vista should have been, took me ages to get games to work on Vista without crashing every 10 minutes, and you can notice the speed increase especially on my laptop

THJahar said:
I Love Windows 7, it's what that bloody awful Vista should have been, took me ages to get games to work on Vista without crashing every 10 minutes, and you can notice the speed increase especially on my laptop
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Windows 7 is definitely a step in the right direction. An OS that actually will not only be powerful, stable, and fast! but will go head-on with MAC OSX and others in terms of interface!
I love the new wallpaper schemes that lets you set a wallpaper slideshow!
Can't wait to see what they've got planned for Windows 7 for Mobile Devices...

msalmank said:
When it's a laptop you wanna install to, i prefer keeping one OS. I just replaced my Vista on the desktop with Windows 7... i guess if that holds fine i'll move to Windows 7 on my laptop as well.
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Wow. Even more of an early adopter than I am. I have been running Win7 for a while, but I always dual boot. I used to dual boot Vista and XP but never used XP. Now I dual boot Vista and 7, but I like to stay in 7. I was using the PDC build with the goodies unlocked. Just installed the official beta today and will try to sync soon.

fards said:
yep works fine here i just installed the wmdc 6.1 for vista and it works, do you have av or firewall interfering?
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For a start, I agree with others in this thread - w7 is definitely a nice xperiance!
But unfortunately I have still not been able to get my mobile device center to like me. Tried installing wmdc 6.1 for vista 32, but got some error message during installation process stating that 'device not connected'. I'm getting this no matter if my device is connected or not.
On the other hand, when I see in the program list it seems like it was 6.1 that was installed from the beginning?
Even though wmdc crashes when attempt to connect, I get the double arrow on device and I can browse it with explorer on w7. Should be nice to have the sync part work though ...

laaban said:
For a start, I agree with others in this thread - w7 is definitely a nice xperiance!
But unfortunately I have still not been able to get my mobile device center to like me. Tried installing wmdc 6.1 for vista 32, but got some error message during installation process stating that 'device not connected'. I'm getting this no matter if my device is connected or not.
On the other hand, when I see in the program list it seems like it was 6.1 that was installed from the beginning?
Even though wmdc crashes when attempt to connect, I get the double arrow on device and I can browse it with explorer on w7. Should be nice to have the sync part work though ...
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Thats odd, there was no wmdc installed on mine, just a pointless "sync" control panel.

..Sorry to interrupt your talks.
Are you synchronizing your Device with only 1 PC or 2 PCs?
I refering to another thread (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=3161672#post3161672) - with less responses..
while wondering, because for me it seems that no one is really using the synch features.
Maybe somebody will have more news on that strange behaviour.
By the way MS, SE and HTC know the problem.
Cheers
..

I had to disable advanced network mode (aka disable faster data sync) in USB to PC to get it to work. Syncs fine now. I am set up to sync with my exchange server, vista partition of my laptop, and 7 partition of my laptop. (I dont actually sync with my laptop; just set it up to sync so that I dont get the WMDC popup everytime I plug in; I mainly plug in to use for debugging and internet access through PC).

XP Tips and Tricks

After years of running the wondrous pof's Hardy 8.04.1 Shift setup, I've gone back to XP. Mainly because Links2 (the fastest browser for this ancient hardware) no longer works with all sites due to its lack of security updates.
cygwin's Links2 2.14 for Windows has enough updated security, so one can visit any site. slimjet chrome browser for XP still syncs with google, but site-rendering is pretty glacial.
As usual, the sd card reader in XP is buggy, mostly due to its old 2002 driver that seems un-updatable. First, I've only gotten a 2GB-or-below card to be recognized. Secondly, the card has to be reinserted upon booting into XP and can also disappear upon resume-after-suspend. But the second issue is solved if one uses devcon.exe and a batch script disabling/reenabling the card driver:
Code:
@echo off
"C:\devcon.exe" disable =SDHost
timeout /t 2
"C:\devcon.exe" enable =SDHost
If anybody else is still using XP, it'd be interesting to hear any of your own workarounds.
I keep dragging my Shift out of mothballs and it's still one of the great niche devices.
Jake

I've only used Vista, Windows 7 and 10 on my HTC Shift, but now it is too slow with any of them so in the next few days, I'm planning on repurposing my Shift to become an offline retro-machine. Therefor I'm intending to install XP on it for the first time. I'll share my experiences on this forum. I'm intending to mostly use it for games and c64 emulation.

Did anyone manage to find Win XP drivers for the Shift?
Thanx

TRoN_1 said:
Did anyone manage to find Win XP drivers for the Shift?
Thanx
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'fraid not.
XP runs well, and the sound works, but I couldn't get optimal screen resolution, and many programs and games (such as Halo, FSX and even basic C64 emulators) refuse to run due to missing drivers.
Since XP has not had security support for a long time, I don't connect XP to the internet, nor do I download any of the general XP driver bundles that are available.
So XP HTC Shift is kind-of useful but not as much as I had hoped. I'm thinking of going back to an offline Windows 7.
I uploaded a couple of HTC Shift Windows XP videos today on YouTube. Here are the links:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y7LbdGV1Rjg&t=9s
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZTU6Kvua7oI&t=458s