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hi all, im relativly new to all this having had an n95 for the last year or so.
I have the choice of the samsung omnia white 8gb or the htc touch hd. With the omnia ill be on a 12 month contract, with the hd an 18.
Anywya, its driving me insane trying to decide, so id appreciate any advice you could offer.
the way im looking at it at th emoment, i like the fact that the omnia has a flash, built in memory and seems to be faster (reading on here there seems to be a driver issue with the hd).
The worrys i have about the hd are the driver situation(reading on here people seem to have delay issues with tomtom and i use gps quite alot, and weather without the device will be powerfull enough to run heavier apps and the lack of a flash and inbuilt memory.
However, what i love about the hd are the community you guys have. Looking at the forum (i may be totally wrong) but itlooks like you guys are not far away from getting android working on it, which would be cool as. Also, i like the way you can use the features from the other phones such as touchwiz and the xperia squares thingy.
Anywya, i dont know much atall having used symbian for the last 6 years or so , so please give me your honest advice.
Everyone looks at their phones differently.
It is decision that others can't make for you.
Evaluated the facts and make a choice.
tkalli said:
Everyone looks at their phones differently.
It is decision that others can't make for you.
Evaluated the facts and make a choice.
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Couldn't have put it better!!
Only you know what you are looking for in a phone. Look at both specs, read up on both of them and evaluate which one is best for you.
Both have pros & cons, but you are right, xda developers is an awesome community to be part of and the tweaking & roms available are of great use!!
Is there likley to be any resolution to the driver situation. Im hoping that with the release of the magic mabey we will also have android running perfectly on the touch hd.
But then if i go for the omnia, its only 12 months i have to stay and i get the flash camera.
The omnia techinically looks just as powerfull as the hd touch, but with a lesser community of devs.
Grrr, descisions descisions!
ricflairandy said:
Is there likley to be any resolution to the driver situation. Im hoping that with the release of the magic mabey we will also have android running perfectly on the touch hd.
But then if i go for the omnia, its only 12 months i have to stay and i get the flash camera.
The omnia techinically looks just as powerfull as the hd touch, but with a lesser community of devs.
Grrr, descisions descisions!
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Camera on the Omnia is superior to the HD's, but I don't really use the camera function as I have a 10MP camera anyhow. I stated before, it all depends on your usage. If your looking for an Android phone, there is other options out there as Android on the HD appears to still be a long way off!
thanks guys, i think ill go for the omnia. I use gps and camera alot, so with the lag and no flash of the HD i think that just sways it for me.
And the omnia is only 12 months, so i can upgrade in 10 at xmas. Hopefully by then the htc will have resolved problems with the drivers and mabey have android running.
Omnia looks like it can do pretty much most of the things the hd can do and only downside is the smaller screen and resolution .. am i right in thinking this?
ricflairandy said:
thanks guys, i think ill go for the omnia. I use gps and camera alot, so with the lag and no flash of the HD i think that just sways it for me.
And the omnia is only 12 months, so i can upgrade in 10 at xmas. Hopefully by then the htc will have resolved problems with the drivers and mabey have android running.
Omnia looks like it can do pretty much most of the things the hd can do and only downside is the smaller screen and resolution .. am i right in thinking this?
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What you could do, which is a bit risky, is trial them both, i.e. get the HD and try it out for a couple days then return it saying you aren't happy, then get the Omnia and do the same thing. If you prefer the Omnia, just keep it etc
I had an Omnia for a few days and returned it as soon as possible for a Touch Pro (now have HD).
Omnia was rubbish, screen is poor, especially in sun light. The Op/sys was extremely unreliable - they've probably fixed this by now. There is no stylus except on a string and the interface is just a simple overlay on top of windows (bit like TF3D) so you need a stylus. Sound was excellent, camera was OK but I'm not a big photo maker with PDA.
The sensitivity of the Omnia acceleration detector is either too sensitive or not enough, I was not able to get it right. The touch screen sensitivity is poor - it needs a hard tap to make things happen.
What else? memory was not so big as on HD, screen resolution is not as good as HD, HD is just way way better.
BUT, it's a personal choice. However, I would highly recommend waiting for the new Omnia now and not buying the old one.
how do you find theHD though? In videos i have seen it seems to stutter alot and lag.
mmm
I got the touch HD , as I fell in love with the Orginal Touch .. I use PC's alott and starsted getting thumb strain with Nokia phone .. so went to the Touch .. loved this .. then went to the HD ... bigger screen etc.. I love it .. what It cant do .. is not worth it ..
i had the same dilema myself and i ended with the HD
if you want a brilliant display, cool factor and xda community go with the HD
if you want a decent camera, snappy interface, huge memory and avi movies with no conversion go with omnia
all other things are more or less the same and more or less acceptable
good luck!
thanks alot guys
ricflairandy said:
thanks guys, i think ill go for the omnia. I use gps and camera alot, so with the lag and no flash of the HD i think that just sways it for me.
And the omnia is only 12 months, so i can upgrade in 10 at xmas. Hopefully by then the htc will have resolved problems with the drivers and mabey have android running.
Omnia looks like it can do pretty much most of the things the hd can do and only downside is the smaller screen and resolution .. am i right in thinking this?
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I got the HD, my wife the omnia.
The HD has a much, much!, better screen. I don't see much difference between the camera's (except for the flash I suppose, but I don't think she ever used it).
As for GPS:
We tried it, driving with both telephones running Garmin software.
I didn't see any difference, the voice directions came mostly simultanious or at most within tenth of seconds from each other and to be honest, I have no idea if the omnia or the HD was the echo
No way I would ever want to swap my HD for her omnia
HappyLlama said:
I got the HD, my wife the omnia.
The HD has a much, much!, better screen. I don't see much difference between the camera's (except for the flash I suppose, but I don't think she ever used it).
As for GPS:
We tried it, driving with both telephones running Garmin software.
I didn't see any difference, the voice directions came mostly simultanious or at most within tenth of seconds from each other and to be honest, I have no idea if the omnia or the HD was the echo
No way I would ever want to swap my HD for her omnia
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what about playing movies. It seems the touch hd with the lack of hardware drives is sluggish in comparrison
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how do you find theHD though? In videos i have seen it seems to stutter alot and lag.
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I don't use videos much but I do use the youtube application and it's fine, I never get a stutter.
It probably depends on the coding/format being used.
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I don't use videos much but I do use the youtube application and it's fine, I never get a stutter.
It probably depends on the coding/format being used.
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Agreed, don't use videos, but I do find it annoying that when playing music you get an occasional stutter/blip with no apparent fix yet!!
How do you find the data charges when using youtube a lot?
cheers guys, orderd the omnia now in white.
thanks
Someone found the right thing to do with an omnia:
http://www.wmexperts.com/torture-phone-heaven-blogger
As to data charges for YouTube, I use this over wifi and not GPRS so I use it for free!
I get no noticeable GPS lag in either TomTom or Google Maps.
Hello there,
I would love to hear some feedback on this mobile phone...
I'm asking this because I would like to offer a mobile phone to my wife.
This seems like a nice phone with a decent life expectancy, and since its mini women like it!
But I wanted to know if the phone is a good buy basically?
I love the phone! And sure since I started cooking for it
Some good points on the phone
- Price
- Size
- Price/Quality is very good
- Speed is quite nice
- Capacitive screen!
- Camera
Some minus points:
- Screen can be little to browse the web sometimes
- Processor must've been more
- Typing is sometimes difficult in portrait mode
- Speaker
In general: a best buy!
Hum.. well she will probably be using the phone to...
phone, sms... (duh)
agenda, notes, tasks...
and then of course the pictures, music...
btw what is the average price of this phone now a days?
I paid 330 EUR. The agenda, tasks, contacts etc are nice. They are nicely built in in Manilla. Audio and video playback is beautiful (if you use ear-phones)
If you still have questions just ask
Hi there,
The only downside to the HD Mini is that it is runs an outdated operating system. Windows phone 7 is due to come out some time in the near future and right now, Android kills Widows Mobile. So if your wife is going to use the phone for sms, agenda and the rest (i.e basic phone use), it should be fine.
If she wants the hundreds of applications available and wants to experience her phone to its limits I would recommend the Samsung Galaxy S. I was planning to get that phone, however my brother got it first and you know how siblings are.. We cant copy each other... The Galaxy S is a real nice phone, sure there are a few bugs and sure you may need to do some speed tweaks (all found on the forum) but I believe that this phone is greater than the HD mini.
In the end it is up to you. If you want to get her a phone that isn't too expensive, small and looks nice, go for this phone. If you are willing to pay a little more for the features, AMOLED screen and the operating system, go for the Galaxy S.
Hope this helps.
alex2g said:
Hi there,
The only downside to the HD Mini is that it is runs an outdated operating system. Windows phone 7 is due to come out some time in the near future and right now, Android kills Widows Mobile. So if your wife is going to use the phone for sms, agenda and the rest (i.e basic phone use), it should be fine.
If she wants the hundreds of applications available and wants to experience her phone to its limits I would recommend the Samsung Galaxy S. I was planning to get that phone, however my brother got it first and you know how siblings are.. We cant copy each other... The Galaxy S is a real nice phone, sure there are a few bugs and sure you may need to do some speed tweaks (all found on the forum) but I believe that this phone is greater than the HD mini.
In the end it is up to you. If you want to get her a phone that isn't too expensive, small and looks nice, go for this phone. If you are willing to pay a little more for the features, AMOLED screen and the operating system, go for the Galaxy S.
Hope this helps.
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Galaxy S runs android?
if so to get that the htc desire is better no?
alex2g said:
The only downside to the HD Mini is that it is runs an outdated operating system.
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Thats your personal opinion.
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Windows phone 7 is due to come out some time in the near future and right now
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Actually there are people like me, who's hangin on to WM with our claws. Because we get lots of options, great hackability, copy/paste, multitasking, bla bla bla..
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Android kills Widows Mobile.
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WTF!? According to what benchmark? Your personal opinion? IMO WM kick's yeverything else's arse. See above.
Qtek8020User said:
Thats your personal opinion.
Actually there are people like me, who's hangin on to WM with our claws. Because we get lots of options, great hackability, copy/paste, multitasking, bla bla bla..
WTF!? According to what benchmark? Your personal opinion? IMO WM kick's yeverything else's arse. See above.
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Yes according to my personal opinion. That's what the topic is, so don't flame me for posting my PERSONAL thoughts on the HD mini...
I really like my HD Mini. I use it for SMS, Phone, Web and Email (mostly in that order).
I've sometimes wished I'd gone for an Android model, but I'd say the HD Mini beats all other handsets hands down.
Why? It has excellent battery life, an excellent screen, small and compact, not forgetting built in GPS which allows for hand held navigation (I use Ndrive). I also happen to think it looks great too.
All in, I'd give it 9 out of 10. It only loses marks for being Windows Mobile 6.5 (which is a little clunky, though very well hidden by Sense), not being able to mark emails as read from the Sense email reader (why?) and being a slightly odd screen size (HVGA) which means some programs may refuse to run, or look squashed. Though the screen being a smaller size, makes it smaller...Which I like...
With new WP7 devices coming does anyone feel like the trophy is a bit old to buy now and lock in a two year contract? Do we know if it's getting Mango?
All WP7 devices will get Mango.
Actually, WP7 doesn't need better specs right now. Every device is going to get Mango. No worry. The phone will survive these 2 years.
Why would you think that?
If you read the announcements carefully, you will see that it sounds like one of the big things about the new devices is going to be that they are cheap. Think "smaller screen size, smaller flash card size, etc.".
Considering that I was using TP2 till last week, and it was still working just fine - no Trophy is no "obsolete". If you keep thinking like that - you can never buy an electronic device. There is always something newer and better that's coming out.
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If you read the announcements carefully, you will see that it sounds like one of the big things about the new devices is going to be that they are cheap. Think "smaller screen size, smaller flash card size, etc.".
Considering that I was using TP2 till last week, and it was still working just fine - no Trophy is no "obsolete". If you keep thinking like that - you can never buy an electronic device. There is always something newer and better that's coming out.
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True. I just played with one at Verizon an hour or so ago -- I liked it overall. I guess my only question is there any way to replace the stock keyboard? I don't think WP7 allows things like that -- I didn't like how in the texting application that the keyboard was above the soft menu buttons, and that it doesn't extend the width of the screen in landscape. I'd eventually get used to it, but it seems stupid not to use the entire screen real estate for the keyboard.
they do that to give room for the soft menu keys at the bottom and the notification bar(which is default hidden) for signal, profile, and battery. If they take the whole screen it could cause one of these to possibly not be viewable while texting.
all and all this is a different beast from android. WP7 requires less powerful specs to run and all windows phones will continue to be supported for a long time. no need to fear being obselete with these devices...now android on the other hand seems to need dual core if it has any UI customizations on it at all.
Just an opinion but after moving from the android to WP7 im very pleased.
I have heard that swype and other keyboards are coming when mango is released. But I can honestly say that the MS keyboard is one of the best keyboards I have used on a phone. Granted I loved swype on my 6.5 and Android phone, this keyboard is pretty awesome.
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I would like to know Omnia7 owners opinions on this phone.
All the reviews I read are reviewing Omnia 7 last year october/november/december.
I would like to know whether there are updates which solve most criticized problems with version used for review.
Also whether it is easy to synchronize Google contacts and emails, whether there are apps for navigation and other common tasks.
Thank you.
Read the Windows Phone 7 threads. It's all there.
Jan Roelof
only if you have the galaxy sii stay on android otherwise come to omnia7
no prob here with omnia7 i have march firmware and mango 7712
If I had a chance, I would go back to Android in a blink of an eye!
WP7 in general is very slick and complete (more complete when mango arrives). But Omnia 7 has been a let down to me as a phone, not for its "smart" features but for its lack in ability to make clear crisp calls..
I had my dad and gf both get new androids (Galaxy SII and Incredible S) and they are definitely more customizable and have a large market of apps for everything. I borrow their phones for the day whenever I know important calls are coming my way.. and the fact that Samsung are failing to recognize the problem and act fast, sucks..
I am waiting out my 2 years contract rofl -.-
I switched from Samsung Galaxy SII to Omnia7 two weeks ago. SGSII is full of bugs and Android cannot compete with WP7 in terms of usability.
Android has every feature and function you can think of but only few of them are really working without problems.
For me, WP7 ist much better -even though the SGSII is a fine piece of hardware, the software sucks.
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I switched from Samsung Galaxy SII to Omnia7 two weeks ago. SGSII is full of bugs and Android cannot compete with WP7 in terms of usability.
Android has every feature and function you can think of but only few of them are really working without problems.
For me, WP7 ist much better -even though the SGSII is a fine piece of hardware, the software sucks.
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I would have gladly gladly swapped with you
Because you have only been on Omnia 7 for 2 weeks, you may not have noticed any of the bugs and issues yet (or if lucky, wont run into them at all).
Because of the immense customisation capabilities of Android, there would be a few compatability issues here and there. But there is most likely a identical app that supports the particular rom, overclock, or launcher.
SGS and SGSII's display is much more vibrant than the omnia 7. Just need to wait and see how Mango can improve on this item..
I played with the SGS2 over the weekend and I must say I'm very impressed at the improvement over the Galaxy S. Display has very nice contrast and everything was smooth. Device was very light too.
However, I still hate the UI. Never could understand what's with the grid layout and the constant necessity flip between the home screen tabs for apps and widgets. And at version 4.0, I STILL can't set the Calendar week to start on a Sunday.
So I'm sticking with my Omnia 7, at least until Mango shows itself to be a failure (no Smart Dial, seriously MS???).
There's some omissions in present-day WP7 that seem to be ridiculous. Come Mango, I would consider WP7 to be up there (or almost there) in terms of functionality.
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I would have gladly gladly swapped with you
Because you have only been on Omnia 7 for 2 weeks, you may not have noticed any of the bugs and issues yet (or if lucky, wont run into them at all).
Because of the immense customisation capabilities of Android, there would be a few compatability issues here and there. But there is most likely a identical app that supports the particular rom, overclock, or launcher.
SGS and SGSII's display is much more vibrant than the omnia 7. Just need to wait and see how Mango can improve on this item..
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No, that's not the point. I bought the Omnia7 at the day of the release last Autumn. Then I've used it until May, bought the Galaxy SII and gave my Omnia7 to my girlfriend.
After 3 months I couldn't stand Android anymore and sold the SGSII for a new Omnia7 (and some bucks spare, of course )
I've really tried both of the system for some time and for me, personally, WP7 wins
It is not the right time switching to Windows Phone 7. There are too many fundamental functions not implemented with the OS. Also there are only few useful apps available on the Marketplace.
hungelt8 said:
It is not the right time switching to Windows Phone 7. There are too many fundamental functions not implemented with the OS. Also there are only few useful apps available on the Marketplace.
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My thoughts exactly. no apps, no solid games, no proper phone call ability eheh
If you get an android and are happy with it, then its all good. but if your not, there is so much room for modding and overclocking and customising.
With my omnia7, the best customisation i have is dark blue tiles lol.
I'm sure as mentioned earlier, when mango comes around, things may get better
I have no clue how many games you play, but there are currently a lot out there. Most of the XBox Live games are good quality, the most popular from other OSs have been ported (like Doodle Jump, Angry Birds, ...). You can't exactly say there are no apps out there either. The main limit which is a bit sad is the lack of sockets (also sensors, will also be fixed) support which limits the types of apps available but this will be fixed in mango. I really don't know what applications you are looking for but im sure that some alternatives probably exist unless it is not available because of API restrictions, most of which will be resolved in mango. You could also always start developing yourself
Now I know there are some features like wifi tethering which would be cool to have, but most of the modding and overclocking seems kinda pointless on a phone and you may just want to play one of the many great games out there instead...
A little off-topic guys.
Christmas is coming and telephone operators are throwing really very "nasty" offers. I have a choice to get Samsung Galaxy S2 or Nokia Lumia 800 for 0€. Inspite of really nice SG2 phone I'm so tempted to get to Microsoft camp and get a taste of Mango. Damn it's hard to decide.
The only big drawback of Nokia phone I find is missing option of usb mass storage. So dumb! What they were thinking off?
SG2 only drawback is that it's already getting old, and yeah, it's Android
Nokia Lumia 800
Samsung Galaxy S2
Your choice?
Keep the Hero
If I need to choose betwein those 2, the android one, but I would not pick either.
Thanks for your opinion. I would pick Galaxy Nexus, but unfortunately it is out of my budget.
whitealien said:
Thanks for your opinion. I would pick Galaxy Nexus, but unfortunately it is out of my budget.
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That is the one I want, not that any pocket in any pants I got is big enough for it. The hero hardly fits and no not really a handbag person... And yes I am tiny.. so I got tiny pants
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Just want to add something. How I think on getting new stuff. If I want something new. I want to make sure it is the thing that I want. And not a thing that is maybe cheaper but not the thing that I want. In this case that is an android phone that runs 2.3 I do not want that. I want to start with 4.0. But some say the GPS on the Nexus is crap. Not that I know of. but I will see what I will get in like 4 months or so. Happy with this device.
I would pick android. Think of what has made ur hero last this long. It is because you can tweak and customize it and upgrade to newer os versions even though it's old.
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LOL you shouldn't have to think about that really IMHO.. The lumia is plainly UGLY and windows phone is CRAP.. the sgs2 all the way. Android hands down mate, plus the sgs2 beats the lumia specs wise too. It's a win win situation.
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LOL you shouldn't have to think about that really IMHO.. The lumia is plainly UGLY and windows phone is CRAP.. the sgs2 all the way. Android hands down mate, plus the sgs2 beats the lumia specs wise too. It's a win win situation.
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dude the lumia is absolutely GORGEOUS! It's so pretty I am genuinely considering dealing with all the poor specs just to wrap my unworthy hands around it.
I just can't give a serieus answer, isn't it obvious which one to choose? SGS II is better in every way and believe me when windows phone 8.0 comes out you are going to be so sorry for choosing the lumia instead of the SGS II, in the future you can update the SGS II with and without a custom rom to android 4.0 and up. There aint much to think about just saying..
Lumia is a nice phone and Mango has sorted much of the issues with wp 7, though on long run (2 yrs) i'm considering if i'd be happy with it. kinda in the same spot looking what to get, but i'm between Sensation and incredible S (affordable) on the android front and Lumia and Titan on the wp7 front.
I would pick Samsung Galaxy S2 ... just because i don't like the interface of a Windows Phone . The OS is ugly as hell, I was in a store last week looking at some phones and I almost puked after 30 seconds of looking at Windows Phones but I recovered while looking at the Home Screen of my HTC Hero. Android's interface is great and by far the best... but that's my opinion and everyone likes different things.
Stick to Android alot more customizable
Even though m getting a sensation still wanna learn more abt Android, n my hero is probably the best testing ground
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The sgs2 is an awesome phone, but have you considered the new Sony erricson? The arc s.. it's in your budget and with a whopping 1.4ghz processor and impressive looks in comparison to the sgs2 you can't go wrong
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I would go for SGS2 as it is still among the best android phone available atm.
Plus, there is plenty of development interest going on for SGS2, with lot's of flashing around so you won't be bored for a long time.
It still has got the best available specs for hardwarewise.
It does not have the Arc's dreaded housing crack problem.
It does not have the HTC's Sensation and like models of dust under the screen as faced by some users.
The only thing you may miss is there's no Sense.
Or..if not
Just grab the one that has got the highest resale value.
Sell it off when it's new to finance your purchase of your dream phone (a Galaxy Nexus perhaps?).
Don't dismiss WP7 until you've tried it. I think windows phone has got a bad reputation from previous versions but after using WP7 on a HTC Mozart I think that it is incredible. It is so unique and I only know one other person who has one. For me, I think I'm going towards WP7
There is serious reason I want to quit Android camp.
The problem with android is that it is too open. There is a limit with providing good SDK and allowing to make apps based only on it or allowing to do whatever you want and making crapload of ****. Android programmer base is so dumb, they don't know anything about performance or battery optimization or background task handling. Android market is blunt loaded with web page scrappers, wrappers and xml parsers. To make a some mobile web page wrapper takes me 5 min and some don't even have any shame to ask money for that. Majority of Android app devs are just amateurs, weekend java programmers or ex web developers with no any clue what mobile platform is and that there is some limit in available RAM, processing power, storage and etc.
Android market maybe is a lot bigger than windows market, but when you look at quality then we come down to the same number or even worse.
Sorry for rant, but 2 years ago I put big fate in Android and Google which totally failed me by providing competitive mobile platform. Android, even with ICS 4.0 today is still 2 years behind iOS and now also WM7. They need 2 dual core most powerful CPUs in a world to accomplish the same task what WM7 can do with single core and half RAM and even then they fail.
Oh well .....
iOS vs Android vs Window Phone
This is a major problem these days. I was thinking to get a new phone these days to...so i spent a lot of time in reading about the new features the platforms have to offer and it seems that there are lot of tiny parts in every os that make every day use to be more exciting and easy.
I will start to make a comparison on every os on what is has or what's missing
1.Windows Phone
-it's snappy
-interesting interface
-facebook and tweeter integrated
-easy to use
-microsoft servers with 30 GB space to store media
-no OTA updates
-no usb storage (you need a program to do that)
-limited hardware (this is because microsoft made a decision on this part)
-multitasking is not in real time
-the number of app is limited (~35k)
-not open sourced...so if your phone gets old, it's harder to make some custom roms
2.Android
-snappy but sometimes laggy
-usb storage
-full customization of the screens
-real time multitasking
-since 4.0 we have a better browsing experience
-lot's of app
-easy to make a rom or flash one
-Google apps (Maps + navigation = damn i'm in love )
-the new gen of phones get big screens and that's very stupid (as lira said...it can't fit in the pocket and i fully agree)
-i hate the part when a new version of android appears and it takes months to get an updated phone
-in some roms we have to much apps from the developer (take htc for example)
-i think the system needs better and better hardware so you can get a better experience
3.iOs
-snappy
-the os with the biggets number of apps
-very easy to use
-every new version can be installed after it appears (if your phone can handle it)
-since we talk about iOs we talk about iphone and on thing that i like is that is has a 3.5 screen
-it has siri and it's fun and useful
-good browsing
-no usb storage...but i heard that you don't need iTunes if you need to transfer a document or things like that (not sure there)
-no customization on the screen, just icons of the programs that you have
-no OTA updates
-can't make a custom rom
@ every rom - maybe i missed some stuff
@whitealien -> not into nokia (WP7.5) since it has stupid limitation and to much social stuff (i don't use facebook or things like that)
-SGS II is a good phone, lot's of people use it and want it and since i know some friends that had an iPhone and now have a SGS II and are more pleased with it
-sometimes i think why buy a phone and not a tablet, that's better thank a phone from more points : starting from gaming and finishing with watching movies.
The choice is your...i'm tempted to get a new phone and change the platform to see new things but i realize that android gets new and new features every day.
I think that it's better to wait for the release of the SGS III and the new qualcomm S4 chips or tegra III on phones [but why need these chips when you can do your every day use with a dual core phone without any problems??]
@ all: - Why not a HTC phone?
Stefan
stefpaul said:
@ all: - Why not a HTC phone?
Stefan
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always a HTC phone if android,i've dropped my hero from the first floor of my house it was fine,it went tumbling down the stairs twice n still survived,it was thrown against a wall by a friend when we were drunk n it survived damn this thing has been hardcore,i manhandle my phone like **** n it survives xD my frnds galaxy s2 fell from his pocket while sitting on a chair and display got fked xD
Thanks Steff for your opinion.
-no OTA updates
-no usb storage (you need a program to do that)
-limited hardware (this is because microsoft made a decision on this part)
-multitasking is not in real time
-the number of app is limited (~35k)
-not open sourced...so if your phone gets old, it's harder to make some custom roms
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I will a little argue with this. No OTA updates - there is updates and Nokia is taking it very serious. They just rolled one out on 7 dec.
- limited HW, you mean a little outdated? Thats true, only single core and 512RAM, but seems to be enough
- multitasking is not in real time - not entirely true, it depends how apps are programmed. They can work in bg if they are programmed to
- the number of app is limited (~35k) - are you serious , I never had more than 50 apps installed
- my very 1st smartphone was HTC Touch Polaris with WM6.5 so I know what closed source is
I found 5 major flaws in Lumia 800
1. only 16Gb integrated storage
2. no usb mass storage
3. no front camera (really, these days?)
4. no notification LEDS, not even one single led, lol.
5. Pentile Amoled display
And yeah SG2 is not perfect too. Build quality is so poor. Back cover is cheap and fragile. Have seen broken ones. Also whole construction is fragile, including big screen. Don't ever put it in your jeans back pocket or you will regret
@ all: - Why not a HTC phone?
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Well, if they were not obsessed with huge phones, enormous screens, poor battery life, sad build style (all gray or black) and somehow over blunted Sense (comon, why there is weather animation everywhere, even in lockscreen) maybe I would go HTC. My 1st idea was to take HTC Radar, but at closer look I find it kinda too big for offered screen size (the bottom part is so long). White is cool so.
bharat_goku said:
always a HTC phone if android,i've dropped my hero from the first floor of my house it was fine,it went tumbling down the stairs twice n still survived,it was thrown against a wall by a friend when we were drunk n it survived damn this thing has been hardcore,i manhandle my phone like **** n it survives xD my frnds galaxy s2 fell from his pocket while sitting on a chair and display got fked xD
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Hmm htc for the reason that the android experience is more fun and not so common to most of the android phones:d, and it has some feature that make using android a special one
whitealien said:
Thanks Steff for your opinion.
I will a little argue with this. No OTA updates - there is updates and Nokia is taking it very serious. They just rolled one out on 7 dec.
- limited HW, you mean a little outdated? Thats true, only single core and 512RAM, but seems to be enough
- multitasking is not in real time - not entirely true, it depends how apps are programmed. They can work in bg if they are programmed to
- the number of app is limited (~35k) - are you serious , I never had more than 50 apps installed
- my very 1st smartphone was HTC Touch Polaris with WM6.5 so I know what closed source is
I found 5 major flaws in Lumia 800
1. only 16Gb integrated storage
2. no usb mass storage
3. no front camera (really, these days?)
4. no notification LEDS, not even one single led, lol.
5. Pentile Amoled display
And yeah SG2 is not perfect too. Build quality is so poor. Back cover is cheap and fragile. Have seen broken ones. Also whole construction is fragile, including big screen. Don't ever put it in your jeans back pocket or you will regret
Well, if they were not obsessed with huge phones, enormous screens, poor battery life, sad build style (all gray or black) and somehow over blunted Sense (comon, why there is weather animation everywhere, even in lockscreen) maybe I would go HTC. My 1st idea was to take HTC Radar, but at closer look I find it kinda too big for offered screen size (the bottom part is so long). White is cool so.
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will argue to you because on the apps: the most important apps in the market are missing if you look close the first apps will appear on iOS first and after that on android and last WP... but it seems that they are starting to get in the same time on android with iOS...
I was thinking on a a HTC radar too but it's not so speedy... and from the part that hardware is old, this isn't a problem, it's a thing made by microsoft and it seems that apps work very well:d
I have a big problem with phones these days...the app that don't make me use them: HTC HUB, HTC LIKES, FACEBOOK INTEGRATION and stupid app that most people don't use))
And there comes a part in life when you don't want a custom rum, just a rom that is fast and responsive...
So the big question is: if i change from android to iOS or WP7...will i be happy than i was with android?
Stefan
stefpaul said:
Hmm htc for the reason that the android experience is more fun and not so common to most of the android phones:d, and it has some feature that make using android a special one
will argue to you because on the apps: the most important apps in the market are missing if you look close the first apps will appear on iOS first and after that on android and last WP... but it seems that they are starting to get in the same time on android with iOS...
I was thinking on a a HTC radar too but it's not so speedy... and from the part that hardware is old, this isn't a problem, it's a thing made by microsoft and it seems that apps work very well:d
I have a big problem with phones these days...the app that don't make me use them: HTC HUB, HTC LIKES, FACEBOOK INTEGRATION and stupid app that most people don't use))
And there comes a part in life when you don't want a custom rum, just a rom that is fast and responsive...
So the big question is: if i change from android to iOS or WP7...will i be happy than i was with android?
Stefan
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you will not be as happy if you leave android imho.
I'm surprised this is even a serious discussion.
Here are my personal reasons why I say that, after using ios and android devices full time professionally for a while and briefly dabbling in winphone7:
It's becoming increasingly accepted by unpartial reviewer and testers...
(except by:
those who have never used android for a useful length of time
or for those who are looking for very simple user experience without any interest in customization or for "power user" features
)
... that iOS is quite inferior to Android in many ways.
Apple notifications were almost useless until ios 5 and even now are only scratching the surface of what android notifications provide.
ios gives you app icons on your home screen. that's it. no widgets or spaces or custom layouts or sources of useful dynamic information (other htan completely USELESS counters on each icon showing outstanding notification events that have passed wihtout your knowledge because of how crappy iOS's notifications are).
ios gives you no customization other than crappy ordering control which is forgetful
I work wtih an ipad daily and it is a PAIN IN THE ASS - I have learned to hate iOS, specially for tablets or power users, but even for a phone os it is truly annoying and very limited.
windows phone is cool but also limiting, very very limiting, and has rather poor app support at the moment compared to either of the big ones.
there are several reasons why android has become the most popular mobile phone OS - and it isn't just because google gives it away for free.
It's also because Android is the only one that is fully customizable. windows phone is SORT of but not nearly as truly customizable as android.
IMHO the windows phone launcher fake app for android (in the market) is actually superior to the real windows phone device I was playing with because it supported android widgets. But if you want to try out windows phone 7, get that launcher - it truly does give you the winphone7 experience with all it's boring limitations.
the thing that's great about apple devices is the huge and still superior application/game support (if you spend the bucks or jailbreak it then install installous and cydia).
I used to say that iOS was better for little kids. but my little kids (2 and 5 at the time) used android tablets without ANY trouble at all. my little kids (now 3 and 6) use an iPAD without many issues either but do get confused when holding a finger too long on an icon and then out of hte blue they all start wiggling and next thing I know apps are being deleted by little fingers. Android turns out to be far more intuitive in this regard compared to iOS. sometimes dumbing down the OS can be taken to the point of making it more complex to understand. It's an either or situation here, but typically in other ways I do think iOS is easier for very very simplistic minds to accept. This should not be a benefit for anyone here however LoL.
the thing that makes android superior for adults is it's ability to be completely and easily customized for everyone who uses it. it's YOUR phone, use it how you like. don't let apple tell you that you can't sync on this computer wtih this itunes on this day in this weather - I swear to god it is nearly that flaky and limiting to use iOS devices. you have music on your phone and want to copy it to your friend's phone? nope. you want your frien'ds music? nope. not unless you're lugging your laptop around so you can copy the files to/from your itunes folder, NOT directly to/from the device.
also android has a free terminal emulator app in the market. it works perfectly and runs bash as well as my desktop. iOS runs somehting similar but makes it incredibly hard to get that sort of control, even after jailbreaking and installing tons of underground apps it is still a kludgy and unreliable bash prompt control system you get in ios which requires a separate terminal emulator to control it (even a term app on your same device will get you there, but that alone is pretty annoying to have to deal with since you first have to actually get your low level underlying linux type system working on the iOS device....)
maybe some of my iOS negative points are improved in ios 5 but it is still light years behind the flexibility that we are all imho owed by buying the device and buying a license to use the operating system in the first place. I OWN my files. I can put them on my phone or my friend's phone if I choose to.
I buy a mac or a windows computer and I can get at all parts of the OS and mess around with it completely. why can't I do that on an iPAD that costs 2 to 3 times as much as a similar android tablet which is a full linux-based computer right from the get go?
I have a lot of inside info and have watched the devices and OSes grow and change over the years. Historically, in many ways, the best os for smart phones was palm webOS. but the hardware/company were slow/moronic respectively (which is why my brother quit as VP of Engineering of PalmSource... check this link for an interview with him back when things were still early and exciting at palm's mobile operating system dev company: http://www.linuxfordevices.com/c/a/...w-Michael-Kelley-and-John-Cook-of-PalmSource/ )
Anyway - android is quite literally the only way to go for a mobile OS at this time if you dont' want to be tied down to a specific vendor/company of hardware and don't want to be given one user interface with one way to operate the phone.
Ever noticed now winphone7 uses only about 60% of your display for it's main UI? annoying, at best.
yes, they're quick, iOS and winmo7 devices. and yes every brand has good hardware (and bad in some cases). however htc android devices do reign supreme in popularity and market share for a good reason (as outlined above by me and others). but even stock android devices are way cool.
having worked with android tables/phones and ios tablets/phones I have decided very definitely that I will never buy an ios device. having worked with winphone7 for a short time I found it quite acceptable, like iOS. but extremely uninspiring and it's customizability is even worse than iOS's.
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