So I'm waiting for my hdmi cable to come from monoprice, and I'm getting kind of anxious. I was just curious if anybody converted 720p videos and played them on a large hdtv, and how it worked out. Was there smooth playback, was there an audio delay, is the quality what you expected? Also, how are games displayed? I saw a video of someone playing angry birds on the Evo but the frame rate was pretty bad.
I got my HDMI cable yesterday. I haven't tried converting any videos and playing them on my 46 inch HD TV, but I did stream a TWiT TV video on the Xoom and mirrored it on the TV. It looked really good. The sound synced up fine, but it carries the audio on the HDMI so I had to turn up the volume on my TV to hear it. I think I'll either have to route the audio out on my TV to my stereo or I'll have to send the headphone jack of the Xoom to my stereo.
Since the Xoom screen has a vertical resolution of 800 pixels and the HDMI out is running at 720, some of the top and bottom of the screen gets cut off. If you are playing a 720 video that shouldn't be an issue though.
I'll try playing Angry Birds on it and see how the frame rate looks. I didn't notice any degredation in the frame rate though while I was playing around with it yesterday.
After playing with it for an hour or so I was pretty happy with the way it looked. I'm waiting for Flash so I can see how Netflix mirrored to my TV looks. Now you've got me wondering though. I'm going to RIP a DVD and see how it looks mirrored to my TV from the Xoom.
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I got my HDMI cable yesterday. I haven't tried converting any videos and playing them on my 46 inch HD TV, but I did stream a TWiT TV video on the Xoom and mirrored it on the TV. It looked really good. The sound synced up fine, but it carries the audio on the HDMI so I had to turn up the volume on my TV to hear it. I think I'll either have to route the audio out on my TV to my stereo or I'll have to send the headphone jack of the Xoom to my stereo.
Since the Xoom screen has a vertical resolution of 800 pixels and the HDMI out is running at 720, some of the top and bottom of the screen gets cut off. If you are playing a 720 video that shouldn't be an issue though.
I'll try playing Angry Birds on it and see how the frame rate looks. I didn't notice any degredation in the frame rate though while I was playing around with it yesterday.
After playing with it for an hour or so I was pretty happy with the way it looked. I'm waiting for Flash so I can see how Netflix mirrored to my TV looks. Now you've got me wondering though. I'm going to RIP a DVD and see how it looks mirrored to my TV from the Xoom.
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Netflix doesn't use flash though so it won't do you any good unless you're using an app like Playon.
I used it last night. (no 720p source)
Mainly on the Youtube app and got some issues.
Now the cable I got was 15' from amazon, but who knows how good it is.
I'm connecting it to a 27" PC monitor that has been wonky with my cable box (I think its the cable box's issue)
But that said, it restarted my Xoom 3 times. Videos would play fine and then freeze, with the tap to restart message. Audio would be out of sync for awhile, and then catch up, or freeze. Im thinking it might be the app though, I don't have any other media on it to play though. When it was working, the quality was great (other than the HQ youtube) menus looked sharp, sound was perfect.
Ill try and move some 720p Community episodes over tonight and see how they look.
+1 for community.
Hopefully it is just the youtube app, it seems a lot of people either hit or miss with that. I don't know, since day one, I have had what I would consider a relatively low amount of force closes (maybe 1-2 per day) with random stuff here or there, but some people talk about it like they can't use it at all. The 1-2 is with several hours of various usage per day, and the force close is usually when trying to open an app, not even when I'm doing anything important. I never had any wiggling on the upper half of the Palm Pre from a release day launch, never had any issues with the Evo Maybe I'm just lucky.
I bet my Xoom explodes tonight.
converting a 720p movie on my xoom tonight and trying it out..
also youtube has massive problems to begin with soo, naturally the mirroring was horrible
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So I'm waiting for my hdmi cable to come from monoprice, and I'm getting kind of anxious. I was just curious if anybody converted 720p videos and played them on a large hdtv, and how it worked out. Was there smooth playback, was there an audio delay, is the quality what you expected? Also, how are games displayed? I saw a video of someone playing angry birds on the Evo but the frame rate was pretty bad.
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I have Despicable Me, 720p version, on my Xoom, plugged it in with the Micro HDMI to My 50" Samsung - looked great I thought. Mouthing I slightly off, but thats how it is on my Xoom to so no changes with that. I also played Mario Cart with the N64 App and the Wiimote hooked up. Worked great!
I have Avatar, Startrek & Transformers 2 on my device played them all via HDMI using the Rock Player app and it was perfect sound was in sync and no lag.
Played Nes & Snes and both were great too. Web browsing was also very solid.
Only one issue and that was the YouTube app. Its an app issue not tablet or HDMI... that app is unstable at best usually anyways and Google needs to update it.
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Netflix doesn't use flash though so it won't do you any good unless you're using an app like Playon.
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Playon is the plan. Works great on my Samsung Epic that I rooted and installed Froyo on.
I made a video for this.
youtube.com/watch?v=2PzSJv3Pcsk
P.S. Oh and if you liked it please like, comment, and subscribe as I am in the process of trying to become a youtube partner so I can help off set the cost of buying all my gadgets, and hopefully eventually start giving the stuff I review away to my viewers. Thanks
Edit: Just wanted to say that the TV in the video is a 55" 1080p TV.
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I used it last night. (no 720p source)
Mainly on the Youtube app and got some issues.
Now the cable I got was 15' from amazon, but who knows how good it is.
I'm connecting it to a 27" PC monitor that has been wonky with my cable box (I think its the cable box's issue)
But that said, it restarted my Xoom 3 times. Videos would play fine and then freeze, with the tap to restart message. Audio would be out of sync for awhile, and then catch up, or freeze. Im thinking it might be the app though, I don't have any other media on it to play though. When it was working, the quality was great (other than the HQ youtube) menus looked sharp, sound was perfect.
Ill try and move some 720p Community episodes over tonight and see how they look.
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I have the same problem with the YouTube app when on wifi and no hdmi. I have not tried too much on wireless since I don't want to burn through my cap but the few I tried worked better. Regardless I am inclined to say it is the app and not the HDMI out.
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Screw you tube for now it's loaded with glitches. I just uploaded a 720 p mad men episode flawless.. sound is a little crappy doubt but not unsynced
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Hi all,
All of this talk about the video performance etc has me wondering.
I've tried encoding videos in the past to play on other devices, but I never have an appropriate time to watch them.
When do people watch these videos?
I guess whilst commuting?
I just never have the time for this, and when I do I'm at home so can watch on the laptop/telly.
Would appreciate some enlightenment !
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I think most people are looking for an all-in-one phone. I dont think one exists. Im like you and dont watch enough multimedia to matter, but some people do use that a lot. I dont feel like the HD is the one for all phone pda, but for me it does everything just well enough. I do agree if someone wants perfect playback or perfect screen or whatever, then they may not find it on the HD. I too would suggest a laptop to go along with the HD. To me, the HD does, (so far) a good job of everything, maybe not excellent in all areas, but it is approaching that. It all depends on what people want in a pdaphone. Im very happy with it, coming from a Touch Diamond.
I wouldl watch the videos whilst commuting yes.
I happen to travel through my city on average of 2.5 hours a day, sometimes even 3, and it just so happens that it's very boring on the bus and lately i find that with all the shows i'm watching, i just don't have the time to watch them at home, so an HD with smooth video playback would've been perfect for me, but HTC and Qualcomm had to ruin my dreams
Watched "Sunshine" on the train home today, was 98% perfect, avi was higher rez than the HD display and didnt drop a beat even in the mild fight seen...all good
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Watched "Sunshine" on the train home today, was 98% perfect, avi was higher rez than the HD display and didnt drop a beat even in the mild fight seen...all good
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Was it DivX and MP3 audio encoded do you know?
This is encouraging. I have also seen many clips on youtube, of what looked like great quality video playing fine on the HD. I'm hoping that the debates over awful video playback are concerning those who wish for higher quality content than I use on my phone. I ordered mine this evening hope to have it saturday !!
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Yer...twas a divx and i think mp3, played around with coreplayer a bit and now working smooth, will try an action movie and post my settings, tiz good though, really notice the higher rez next to a iphone...can barely see the pixels on the HD gui
Whilst commuting, on lunch/breaks at work/school... I hate the fact I drive now instead of commute to work - but at least I still have my lunch half-hour and two 15 minute breaks!
I don't see what everyone's problem with the HD video playback is though! I watched Wolverine And The X-Men fine!
I picked up a Molex micro hdmi cable and have tested it against my 20" 720p Sceptre, my 37" 1080P Sceptre, 43" 1080P Sceptre and several 1080P monitors at my place of work...all with same results.
Picture is pixellated, "choppy" and it seems phone can't keep up.
I am sending 720P videos created with phone (I set it to 720p) and can see that ALL the tvs receive as 720p signal...yet image quality is so poor it's borked.
All of these TVs were hdmi 1.3 I believe...is this solely an hdmi 1.4 issue?
Loving my Evo except hdmi is fubar. I have a few days left on eval and may return it if this feature is truly not appropriate for phone (due to cpu issue).
I am perfectly willing to wait for g'bread if this will make a difference.
What's the deal here?
Check it against a better TV. Those Scepters just don't use the same quality as say even a Visio, let alone a Sony or Samsung.
Worked wonderfully for my brother's 46" LG LCD
So... a Walmart TV with an HTC phone and you say the phone quality sucks? I'm confused jk bro. Haha
I have a Phillips 32' and the HDMI is horrible for me. I played a HQ Video of Everybody Hates Chris and it was so choppy and fuzzy I just disconnected it. I have a 6ft cable. Could the length have anything to do with it?
sceptre is the same quality as visio hate to break it to you. plays properly on my 32" samsung.
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I have a Phillips 32' and the HDMI is horrible for me. I played a HQ Video of Everybody Hates Chris and it was so choppy and fuzzy I just disconnected it. I have a 6ft cable. Could the length have anything to do with it?
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Picture quality is crap because your videos are encoded at a low bitrate so there gonna look pixilated.
When I recode my Blu Ray movies to x.264 720p with a high bitrate and play them back using HDMI to my Sony Bravia they look AMAZING.
You need to encode some quality videos. The built in camcorder or youtube aren't gonna do it justice.
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Picture quality is crap because your videos are encoded at a low bitrate so there gonna look pixilated.
When I recode my Blu Ray movies to x.264 720p with a high bitrate and play them back using HDMI to my Sony Bravia they look AMAZING.
You need to encode some quality videos. The built in camcorder or youtube aren't gonna do it justice.
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Every post I've read has said to use 720p setting in camera. Are you saying phone camera can't natively produce video in form consumable by hdmi? I would never use youtube as reference...but not even native vids?
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So... a Walmart TV with an HTC phone and you say the phone quality sucks? I'm confused jk bro. Haha
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Actually they were purchased at CostCo several years ago and price compared to that of others sets for most part. I wasn't aware costCo sold crap brands...not my experience with them.
Odd that my blu-ray, cable box and other hi-def input sources play beautifully on my sceptres and only the HTC has issues. Sceptre's now the problem? Hmmm...
Time to run by Fry's and see what works and what doesn't.
To those who are getting a stunning picture via hdmi...are your sets hdmi 1.4 protocol?
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Every post I've read has said to use 720p setting in camera. Are you saying phone camera can't natively produce video in form consumable by hdmi? I would never use youtube as reference...but not even native vids?
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What I'm saying is the videos you record using the phones camcorder are encoded at a low bitrate making them look like ****. HDMI output is only as good as the source quality.
I suggest you read this as well since you seem to think that HDMI revisions automatically mean improved video quality.
http://www.hdmi.org/learningcenter/faq.aspx#12
The problem isn't the Evo or your TV, it's your source material. The 720p from the camcorder is compressed so much that it doesn't look that good.
Encode a movie using a high bitrate (somewhere around 5000), and it'll look good. Just like mine do.
Dude, I was kidding. lol
What about streaming videos from something like mPlayer? Those also look like sh*t, as the OP mentioned. Is that a tv problem or is that a "bitrate" problem?
Thanks for the help all.
After installing handbrake to convert some trailers I am finally seeing a not-so-****ty picture. The whole re-encoding thing bites hard though. Who really has time to convert all their **** or even wants to do it selectively? I know I don't.
The fact that the device isn't capable of creating its own hdmi content is pretty bad and somewhat misleading: 720P on vidcam app during record....720P hdmi signal out per notification window...sounds like a match to me!
For all "practical" purposes the hdmi port is fubar.
#1 You don't get desktop 'experience' on hdmi out
#2 Feature doesn't come for "free", apps must be individually hdmi-enabled (yeah right)...so no TermSrvr or VNC
#3 Device can't create videos for clean hdmi playback (at least with native 720p vid recording app)
where are you guys getting your HDMI cables? last time I checked monoprice didn't stock them.
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For all "practical" purposes the hdmi port is fubar.
#1 You don't get desktop 'experience' on hdmi out
#2 Feature doesn't come for "free", apps must be individually hdmi-enabled (yeah right)...so no TermSrvr or VNC
#3 Device can't create videos for clean hdmi playback (at least with native 720p vid recording app)
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Agree. The hdmi out is wasted space on this phone. If it worked, this thing would be the hub of my media center! Especially with stuff like JetFlix streaming in crisp hi-def to the t.v. But, no. With the quality as-is, I don't see myself ever using it.
I suppose I could encode existing movies for playback, but why would I use my phone to store them? I'd just burn a dvd or bring a external hard drive. At that point, I'd just be using my phone to watch them on a plane or something, and you don't need an HDMI port for that.
But this isn't a dealbreaker for me. I still love the phone.
I have a Sprint Tab, and every time I watch a movie, it pauses itself every minute or so.
Has anyone else experienced this? Or know what might be causing it.
Very frustrating
what are you watching? get a codec info app and post it. audio too
does it have dolby audio? I have read SGT cannot render Dolby and a movie.
Well, I'm not sure it is just a movie thing, because I experience a similar hiccup when doing other things
in particular, recording a movie with the built in camera, I can go for maybe 40 seconds then it just stops
or playing angry birds, the game will just automatically pause itself ever 40 seconds
with the movies and the games, I just unpause them and keep going, but it is pretty constant around that 40 - 60 second time frame.
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what are you watching? get a codec info app and post it. audio too
does it have dolby audio? I have read SGT cannot render Dolby and a movie.
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That's untrue. I have watched many movies on my Sprint SGT encoded at 720p with Dolby digital without any pausing or skipping.
If there's a consistent pause in every app after 40 seconds, there's something wrong with your SGT in general.
My Sprint Tab has no issues with videos. Maybe try a factory reset on it. Otherwise, it could be a hardware issue.
I watch 720p movies all the time flawless local lan over a wireless n router. Now 1080p movies lag horribly but that's all. Only reason I tried 1080p is because all my movies r either 720p or 1080p. But going to test it over the internet today when cable gets installed.
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FYI, did a factory set, that fixed all of the problems, yay!
This is really annoying. You can play a video using HDMI out to a TV and it plays full screen, as long as it is from Google movies. However if you try and play a video of your own it isn't full screen. It is missing about 3cm each side. I can't work out why or how to change it as it has the ability to. Any ideas?
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Does it downscale the image to 1080p when you are in the UI? If not it might be that whatever app you are using is not yet set up for the N10.
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Yeah it cuts the side bits off. Only time you get full screen is via Google movie store
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Right, that's really odd. Wonder why they wouldn't have system-wide downscaling?
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Here we go... Let's see if this actually better than the Infinity. I returned it just to buy this. I use HDMI out a lot...
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Here we go... Let's see if this actually better than the Infinity. I returned it just to buy this. I use HDMI out a lot...
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Let me know if you have any luck outputting full screen
Yup. Huge bars on the side and can't get rid of the bottom bar like the tf700 can. I hope this is fixed. However, I messed with my bravia TV a little it is much better now. I'll post pics.
does audio work?
Does audio work?
There is a thread with 3 different people saying video works but not audio.
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Does audio work?
There is a thread with 3 different people saying video works but not audio.
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I'd also like to know.
I get sound, but both the sound and video stutter in Google play movies. Tried ice age and planet earth, both stuttered badly. Hoping this is just one of those things that will be fixed in an update.
I have had my Nexus 10 for about a week now and really like it. This YouTube issue is something that needs to be addressed. Ice Age plays full screen perfect 1080p smooth as silk. YouTube plays at lower quality in a black frame. It also plays on the tablet screen when plugged into HDMI to TV. Make the YouTube app perform like the Google Play app please
Any news on that?
I find that the youtube app won't go full screen when HDMI is plugged in, any solution?
I'm reading everywhere that ppl say it's not outputting fullscreen.
At the chance of being simply wrong: did you ever take into account that the usual TV with its 1080p resolution (1920x1080) has a 16:9 screen ratio but the tablet with its 2560x1600 resolution clearly has a 16:10 screen reatio.
So it simply does not match. If just mirroring what is seen on the tablet... it will always have those black bars on the TV screen.
Or am I just not understanding what everyone barks about?
The transformer it's also 16:10. It removes the bars and (no need for them on the TV) and voila. It also blanks the screen when watching videos. That's one area where the tramsformer is a lot better, but it's a simple fix. You know, I'm not picky but it really annoys ke that such a simple thing to fix has not been addressed. How can you test the HDMI and not notice that and at least give some basic options. That type of thing is inexcusable. Watch them never give us any options.
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I find that the youtube app won't go full screen when HDMI is plugged in, any solution?
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Thanked because I have the same issue. Anyone figured it out?
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Is there anyone on 4.2.1 who can actually play Google play movies with hdmi out onto their TV?
Mine just stops at the "HDMI Screen" when I try to play the free ice age with a progress spinner in the middle, and other logs in logcat either that might explain the issue ( no logs at all). It's connected to my Samsung D8000 which is definitely HDCP compliant. I've never had it working. The film will play fine though when HDMI is not plugged in. It's really annoying cause I refuse to buy or rent films if I can't hook up to my TV.
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Is there anyone on 4.2.1 who can actually play Google play movies with hdmi out onto their TV?
Mine just stops at the "HDMI Screen" when I try to play the free ice age with a progress spinner in the middle, and other logs in logcat either that might explain the issue ( no logs at all). It's connected to my Samsung D8000 which is definitely HDCP compliant. I've never had it working. The film will play fine though when HDMI is not plugged in. It's really annoying cause I refuse to buy or rent films if I can't hook up to my TV.
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Mine works fine hooked up to tv with Google movies. I have not tried it while plugged into the wall though.
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Is there anyone on 4.2.1 who can actually play Google play movies with hdmi out onto their TV?
Mine just stops at the "HDMI Screen" when I try to play the free ice age with a progress spinner in the middle, and other logs in logcat either that might explain the issue ( no logs at all). It's connected to my Samsung D8000 which is definitely HDCP compliant. I've never had it working. The film will play fine though when HDMI is not plugged in. It's really annoying cause I refuse to buy or rent films if I can't hook up to my TV.
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I have no problem watching movies or TV shows with the Google Play Movies app, connected to a 46" Sharp TV. Audio & video are fine. There is the occasional stutter, but nothing too bad. I've only played shows off battery - I haven't tried it while charging yet, though I can't believe that would make a difference.
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I have no problem watching movies or TV shows with the Google Play Movies app, connected to a 46" Sharp TV. Audio & video are fine. There is the occasional stutter, but nothing too bad. I've only played shows off battery - I haven't tried it while charging yet, though I can't believe that would make a difference.
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Just tried again on my TV and on my computer monitors, all are fully HDCP compliant. It's either the tablet or the cable cause it doesn't work with any of those screens, just stops at spinner on HDMI Screen every time.
Unfortunately I don't have another device or another cable to rule out which is not the cause.
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So I really wanted to try this, so I bought the converter cable from mono price and just got it.
I hooked it all up and can stream my mkvs or mp4's, to my 55 inch tv and it looks amazing. The only problem I have is resolution I guess. The android desktop for example fills up my TV screen, but the icons and mostly the wording is so fuzzy or pixelated u can barely read it. What would cause this? If I can fix this minor issued everything is perfect. Even opening my browser and going to web pages, u can barely make out the text.
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So I really wanted to try this, so I bought the converter cable from mono price and just got it.
I hooked it all up and can stream my mkvs or mp4's, to my 55 inch tv and it looks amazing. The only problem I have is resolution I guess. The android desktop for example fills up my TV screen, but the icons and mostly the wording is so fuzzy or pixelated u can barely read it. What would cause this? If I can fix this minor issued everything is perfect. Even opening my browser and going to web pages, u can barely make out the text.
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Check your TVs setting. My TV has many options and aspect ratios.
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