is it true... - EVO 4G General

thats t-mobiles 4g is more widespread than sprints atm? i was told last night that it was.

All they did was beef up their 3G network and not use a "new technology", so yes, it is.

yeah they about the same, but some 4g speeds (even tho is not really 4g) from tmobile re faster then sprint wimax

I have a Dell Streak 7 with tmobile and yes its true...and its fast! I don't have Wimax in my area though for my EVO

I don't have 4G from Sprint, but I do get 3G.
I can't sign up for T-Mobile (or Verizon) where I am even if I wanted to.

sprints 4g is hardly no where, just in SOME major cities
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fixxxer2008 said:
thats t-mobiles 4g is more widespread than sprints atm? i was told last night that it was.
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They advertise as the nations largest "4G" network so probably. The confusing thing to me is that AT&T announced that their entire 3G network is now HSPA+, and they have a significantly larger 3G network than T-Mo so shouldn't they have the largest HSPA+/"4G" network? Of course with AT&T comes more users so speeds will be slower anyway (I get 3-5 Mb/s on a iPhone 4 in Brooklyn so you'd get that even with a HSPA+/"4G" phone like the Inspire).

my buddy has the nexus S and his speed crush mine he get 4g speeds on a 3g network while im on a 3g network getting dial up speeds

CheesyNutz said:
my buddy has the nexus S and his speed crush mine he get 4g speeds on a 3g network while im on a 3g network getting dial up speeds
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Yup GSM 3G is faster then cdam
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jgalan14 said:
Yup GSM 3G is faster then cdam
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IF they have HSPA+, if not then they are about equal.

Beejis said:
IF they have HSPA+, if not then they are about equal.
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Truth but now att and T-Mobile are hspa + and all devices are going to come like that, btw I just saw the latest report of the networks reliability (call , sms and data )and Verizon came up on top again, while T-Mobile is the worst ( I got a tmobile phone from my company) and att and sprint almost the same
http://m.engadget.com/default/artic...nwide-t-mobile-c/&category=classic&postPage=1
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androidpolice.com/2011/03/06/the-four-gees-comparison-which-carrier-should-you-be-looking-to-for-your-4g-android-phone/#
Here is a report from Android central and Sprint came out at last with his 4G network
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so i see it's true then. actually a t-mobile rep told me this at their kiosk last night. i thought he was just trying to make a sale, guess not!

weehooherod said:
I'm so jelly of T-Mobile's 4G. One doesn't need to switch a radio on and off to conserve battery life, it's just always there.
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Yea this is awesome love this statement bro
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CheesyNutz said:
my buddy has the nexus S and his speed crush mine he get 4g speeds on a 3g network while im on a 3g network getting dial up speeds
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Improved 3G speeds in Florida!!

Recently i have noticed that sprints 3G speeds have dramatically improved.back then i would get 700-800kbps speeds now I'm getting 1-2MBps sppeds here in Miami.Also my 4G speeds have also improved and signal too.
UPDATE:I have NOT edited the 3G proxy everything is default
I will post screenshots later
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fadimo305 said:
Recently i have noticed that sprints 3G speeds have dramatically improved.back then i would get 700-800kbps speeds now I'm getting 1-2MBps sppeds here in Miami.Also my 4G speeds have also improved and signal too.
I will post screenshots later
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Sounds good, there's no doubt that the data issues have been improved in a lot of areas.
Hasn't made its way to Jax yet, lol.
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Chicago 3G speeds also took that same jump bout 4 months ago...
4G has also really improved just recently...not so much that's its faster, but signal remains much more consistantly.
Am much happier.
Lucky you. My 3G is still as fast as a frozen glacier.
Edit: Even you previous 700-800 kb speeds are 3 times faster than what I get.
rugedraw said:
Lucky you. My 3G is still as fast as a frozen glacier.
Edit: Even you previous 700-800 kb speeds are 3 times faster than what I get.
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Update your PRL and Roam,Sprint has Amazing Roaming Speeds on 3G
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fadimo305 said:
Update your PRL and Roam,Sprint has Amazing Roaming Speeds on 3G
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I have the latest PRL, but the "amazing roaming speeds" are because you are running off of Verizon towers when you're roaming.......it has nothing to do with Sprint.
Edit: Also, I don't want to force the phone to roam on Verizon in any way. Hopefully some of whatever you're getting comes my way sooner than later.
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Yea im also getting like 5-6mbps down on 4g before it was like 3-3.5
My 3G speeds in Orlando are kinda slow. Roaming or not, they are actually a little slower when roaming. So I just use 4G as often as I possibly can.
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Yeah figured 3G would pick up when customers are jumping ship. hahahahahahah
MY speeds in Jacksonville (Right along the line of ST Augustine) has increased GREATLY! My speeds went from 50-80 kpbs to 1800-220 kbps DL. And about 10 kbps upload, now 550 (on average). It's great! Beats Verizon's speed @ my house (tested w/ a friend's HTC Eris).
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MY speeds in Jacksonville (Right along the line of ST Augustine) has increased GREATLY! My speeds went from 50-80 kpbs to 1800-220 kbps DL. And about 10 kbps upload, now 550 (on average). It's great! Beats Verizon's speed @ my house (tested w/ a friend's HTC Eris).
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Damn. Maybe I need to flash back to sense and try to update my profile. Just did it like a month ago. Haven't seen a new one released :/
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There is a great deal of work being done on a great many of the Florida sites to improve speed, capacity and overall experience. Glad its being noticed.
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I have the latest PRL, but the "amazing roaming speeds" are because you are running off of Verizon towers when you're roaming.......it has nothing to do with Sprint.
Edit: Also, I don't want to force the phone to roam on Verizon in any way. Hopefully some of whatever you're getting comes my way sooner than later.
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my 1-2mbps speeds are not on roaming but on sprints normal network
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jayharper08 said:
Damn. Maybe I need to flash back to sense and try to update my profile. Just did it like a month ago. Haven't seen a new one released :/
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Good idea..........I haven't tried updating the profile.
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my 1-2mbps speeds are not on roaming but on sprints normal network
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Oh, ok.....I must have misunderstood what you typed earlier.
My max speeds when roaming hit 250 kbps, because when you roam, Verizon only shares their 2G (not 3G) speeds.
i'm in melbourne ,has anyone else noticed they can connect to wi
max?????running decks 2.3.4 and cm7 both upon booting automatically start 4 g and to my surpise lately it connects but gives different I.P. addresses.anyone else???
Overstew said:
My max speeds when roaming hit 250 kbps, because when you roam, Verizon only shares their 2G (not 3G) speeds.
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I'm able to get 3G roaming on Verizon. It's also double the speeds of sprint. I am using PRl 01115. it's nice
Marlowr05 said:
I'm able to get 3G roaming on Verizon. It's also double the speeds of sprint. I am using PRl 01115. it's nice
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Yes indeed VZW 3g is nice. Sprint in Louisiana is horrible...20 kilobit to 50 kilobits for me. Data is useless unless I force roam.
My speeds in Tallahassee were great for about the first 4-6 months of owning the phone, now it's merely decent and there's been no improvement.

Anyone getting 4G in Greenville, SC

I have had my Evo 4G since February and Sprint has yet to announce any new 4G markets. So i was wondering if anyone in the area actually has 4G.
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Last time I checked.... Sprint is no longer increasing their 4G in the USA. Yeah, It's ONE BLOCK away from my house! errrrrrrrrrr I want 4G because it is faster than my actual Landline DSL connection I have! lol. sadly where I live, I can't get anything faster than a 3M connection.
runcool said:
Last time I checked.... Sprint is no longer increasing their 4G in the USA. Yeah, It's ONE BLOCK away from my house! errrrrrrrrrr I want 4G because it is faster than my actual Landline DSL connection I have! lol. sadly where I live, I can't get anything faster than a 3M connection.
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You can't be serious, that's bs. They should have a discounted plan for our areas without 4G.
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Sprint 3g speeds

Much improved! I'm now getting just over 2 Mbps. Now just need ICS and this phone will be good to go for a couple more years...
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Lucky, I get 50~400 kbps
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I've been getting great speeds as well.
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What happened that led to these faster speeds all of the sudden?
Thanks,
Matt!
Sprint is upgrading their 3G network in advance of the iPhone launch next week. thisismynext.com had a few articles about it. I think it's both adding towers, and moving voice to a different frequency so data is not so congested.
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Its called sprint network vision. Nothing to do with the iPhone.
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The timing of the rollout of the network upgrades has everything to do with the iPhone--specifically, with being ready for the heavy additional traffic that will hit their data network as soon as they release the iPhone. Sprint said that specifically in their conference on Friday. Can you imagine the bad press Sprint would get if reviewers compared 3G speeds of the 3 carriers of the iPhone 4S and Sprint was showing <400 kbps?
Ouch I forgot how bad sprint 3g was 5mbps on Tmobile 3g and almost 9 on hspa.
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Wish I was getting speeds like that. I just ran a speakeasy test and got .2 mbps with full 3g bars. It has been like that for several weeks. Hope the upgrades hit metro detroit soon.
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cchase231 said:
Wish I was getting speeds like that. I just ran a speakeasy test and got .2 mbps with full 3g bars. It has been like that for several weeks. Hope the upgrades hit metro detroit soon.
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Same **** here in Miami. I called earlier about it and it didn't really get anywhere.
where are you located
I'm in Charlotte. It's true Sprint has slower 3G than T-Mobile, but of course we have 4G too. It's really only inside buildings that I'm on 3G, and my experience is most people's phones on other networks don't get reception at all inside.
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dwielunski said:
Much improved! I'm now getting just over 2 Mbps. Now just need ICS and this phone will be good to go for a couple more years...
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What are you getting for a ping? Download ping off the market and run a continuous ping to Google.com. I get 1mbit down with a fluctuating ping between 80-130ms. Spikes up past 400 once in a blue. Its not stable whatsoever. Pisses me off. I'd be able to enjoy this bf3 beta a bit better lol
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How about a change in radios? Might that help?
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dwielunski said:
I'm in Charlotte. It's true Sprint has slower 3G than T-Mobile, but of course we have 4G too. It's really only inside buildings that I'm on 3G, and my experience is most people's phones on other networks don't get reception at all inside.
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Highest i ever saw on wimax was 10mbps which I can almost hit on good hspa. :/
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If I had consistant access to 10mbps I would be fine with wimax. There is only one wimax tower near me me and its coverage stops about a mile from my home. Even when I can connect to it I have only seen speeds up to 7mbps, with 5 being the norm. Heck, I would even be fine with that if the coverage was even mediocre. However, the 4g coverage is atrocious around me and is unusable unless you are outside. Sprint has there work cut out for them, i think it will be years before we see any fast, reliable speeds. I just hope metro detroit is one of the first areas they upgrade since they hosed us on the wimax coverage, but I'm not holding my breath as I would think they would start upgrading towers before building new ones. Ill just have to keep taking comfort in the fact that my bill is half as much as it would be on verizon.lol
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Ping is in the low 100s on 3G. Actually a lot more consistent on 3G than wifi. What are those numbers supposed to be if you have "good" service?
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Ping is in the low 100s on 3G. Actually a lot more consistent on 3G than wifi. What are those numbers supposed to be if you have "good" service?
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CDMA EVDO Rev. A is capped at 3.1mbps, on paper. Where GSM 3G is at 7.2mbps. Technically, in good coverage, I should see at least 700kbps on Sprints 3G. Unfortunately for me, Sprints network is horrid.
I tried the NS4G under Sprint's trial (about 5 months ago). I couldn't even watch Slingbox or hardly stream anything due to the slow rev.A CDMA network.
I ran back to my AT&T NS.
I'm sure the network Vision project will bring good things, as will AT&T's (and Verizon's) network upgrades, but Sprint simply is not there yet.
Shame cause I like the way they roll. That and the fact that I had Sprint for many years until the O.G. iPhone came out on AT&T (been with AT&T since then). I've always wanted to return to Sprint, but I just can't given the slow 3G speeds currently. Plus it's nice to use simultaneous data and voice.
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Tmobile doesn't really have 4g service!

Ok so why call something 4g service when it's really just 3g service. That's lying to customers! We Won't see 4g until 2013 it seems! Kinda makes me want to leave Tmobile!
read this and find out!
http://news.cnet.com/8301-1035_3-57383699-94/t-mobiles-comeback-plan-is-it-enough/
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Another challenge will be in the confusion brought on by its own definition of 4G. Since 2010, T-Mobile renamed its HSPA+ network--widely considered a 3G technology--its 4G network. With the widespread availability of HSPA+, T-Mobile was able to boast of having the nation's largest 4G network.
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But yet they call it 4g and throttle you when you go over the really 3g service! Stupid!
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Semantics... It is what it is - doesn't matter what you call it.
If you're going to leave a good provider that has good rates for something as petty as that, you've got bigger issues than T-Mobile calling their service 4g...
That's just my opinion though... No offense intended.
Read this too!
http://m.gizmodo.com/5680755/the-dirty-secret-of-todays-4g-its-not-4g
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Look, I be postin in a troll thread!
darkside79 said:
Read this too!
http://m.gizmodo.com/5680755/the-dirty-secret-of-todays-4g-its-not-4g
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your in seattle too man arnt you getting the 10+ mbps speeds?
darkside79 said:
Ok so why call something 4g service when it's really just 3g service. That's lying to customers! We Won't see 4g until 2013 it seems! Kinda makes me want to leave Tmobile!
read this and find out!
http://news.cnet.com/8301-1035_3-57383699-94/t-mobiles-comeback-plan-is-it-enough/
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not sure if you know or don't know, but even LTE is not considered 4G
true 4G is still far away from any service
all the service providers are advertising 4G but they are all fake, as non of them really meets the 4G specifications
First of all know your facts . Now the person who said late isn't really 4g is right. But on another note in certain areas T-Mobile is just as fast as Verizon and sprint . I get speeds of 15 - 20 mbps. Its all about area that you are in.
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AllGamer said:
not sure if you know or don't know, but even LTE is not considered 4G
true 4G is still far away from any service
all the service providers are advertising 4G but they are all fake, as non of them really meets the 4G specifications
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Yea I know. Its sad!
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Second of all want is this in this thread . I have to agree with everyone who complains of people posting new took just because they can just clutter . Search before you post .
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True 4g is atleast 100mbps and guess what nobody hits that. Its all bull but yes lte is def faster then hspa+. Only the uneducated think that these bs services are real 4g and sadly not to many people know really just how fast 4g is supposed to be if they did these companys would have a problem
im from phoenix and i get "4G" almost anywhere in the valley, not so much when indoors , but it is kinda fast ...
Ill takes my fake 4G battery life ove LTE!
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lol.... really?
The whole "4g" is just a marketing gimmick, but i don't really care as long as im getting 11500kbps download most of the time, sometime i even get 15000kbps.
It was a big deal before about this basically any company with new technology is consider 4g now. Hspa+ can be 4g if it reached 100 mbs. The network must reach over 100mbs not any phone. Lte isn't consider 4g either but lte-A is considered 4g.
i dont want to be mean or anything but this is really really old news and probably has been posted a million and a half times. no carrier in the world has true LTE Advanced which is set to be "real" 4G. All the current "4G" monikers are just stopgaps until they can implement LTE Advanced or a 4G compliant WiMAX.
I wouldnt quit just because tmo is advertising 4G when it really does not, because you'll be stuck looking for a 4G compliant carrier with nothing to switch to.
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First of all know your facts . Now the person who said late isn't really 4g is right. But on another note in certain areas T-Mobile is just as fast as Verizon and sprint . I get speeds of 15 - 20 mbps. Its all about area that you are in.
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Tmobile is just as fast as sprint and verizon? You know our data is faster right? We only lose to att LTE but they're limited and expensive so ef that
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darkside79 said:
Ok so why call something 4g service when it's really just 3g service. That's lying to customers! We Won't see 4g until 2013 it seems! Kinda makes me want to leave Tmobile!
read this and find out!
http://news.cnet.com/8301-1035_3-57383699-94/t-mobiles-comeback-plan-is-it-enough/
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Yea I know. Its sad!
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OK, So you spew outrage that T-Mo calls their service 4G and says it makes you want to leave t-mo, yet you agree with another post when he says all thw carriers do it??? Where did you plan on moving your service too? I'd like to know what real 4G carrier you are going to use.

Finally got 4G LTE!!

I have T-Mobile and I live in Louisville Kentucky, today I went outside and realized that I had 4G LTE! I'm so excited! I ran a speedtest and I'm getting 15mbps on average and before LTE I averaged 5mbps, 3x faster and iam very happy with it
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That's awesome glad to hear your getting the most out of your device
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shehade08 said:
I have T-Mobile and I live in Louisville Kentucky, today I went outside and realized that I had 4G LTE! I'm so excited! I ran a speedtest and I'm getting 15mbps on average and before LTE I averaged 5mbps, 3x faster and iam very happy with it
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Bye Bye to good battery life! Its probably a weak/semi-weak LTE signal considering its Kentucky and your phone will be giving more battery power to connect to it.
Cheers.
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Bye Bye to good battery life! Its probably a weak/semi-weak LTE signal considering its Kentucky and your phone will be giving more battery power to connect to it.
Cheers.
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my battery improved on 4g, but maybe this was in part because I had lte active, the network was up but I didn't have permission to access it (I had to ask in the shop to activate it for me)
shehade08 said:
I have T-Mobile and I live in Louisville Kentucky, today I went outside and realized that I had 4G LTE! I'm so excited! I ran a speedtest and I'm getting 15mbps on average and before LTE I averaged 5mbps, 3x faster and iam very happy with it
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I have tmobile LTE in only 1 room of my entire house. I dont get it.
They just expanded it in the Jersey Shore.
shehade08 said:
I have T-Mobile and I live in Louisville Kentucky, today I went outside and realized that I had 4G LTE! I'm so excited! I ran a speedtest and I'm getting 15mbps on average and before LTE I averaged 5mbps, 3x faster and iam very happy with it
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wait is this on the tmo, the att or the unlocked european htc one?
domineus said:
wait is this on the tmo, the att or the unlocked european htc one?
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Tmo HTC one
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At&t finally added it to my area. Joplin MO. Glad to see their expanding.
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I have tmobile LTE in only 1 room of my entire house. I dont get it.
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They just don't have all the sites with LTE yet. It was the same way here when they launched it and now i have 3-4 bars LTE in my place (But still only 1 bar HSPA+. figure that)
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They just don't have all the sites with LTE yet. It was the same way here when they launched it and now i have 3-4 bars LTE in my place (But still only 1 bar HSPA+. figure that)
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Yeah I know. Surprising that where I live Tmobile gets service, while ATT doesn't.
That's awesome! I'm with solavei and I can't wait u til T-Mobile let's the smaller companies use LTE. But I'm it complaining much. It's mid here in jersey and I'm about to pull 15Mbps down and 2 up on hspa+. But Lte wouldn't hurt. And for those that are getting better signal with Lte. I think I read an article stating that the coverage will be superior than that of hspa+ even though frequencies are the same. Idk the validity on that though.
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