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[Q] why are you flashing unstable ROMS? (please read)

hello all i recently joined xda because i bought samsung galaxy 3. now as i have been looking for the rom threads in developement section i noticed that i cant post there so i read couple of rom threads and i was stunned. as i see there are 4 main rom makers, lastatious, kyrillos, apocalyps and greenmod. but when i first watched lastatious rom thread i saw that there are MANY problems in lastatious 1.8 also the same thing happened in apocalyps thread, people complain about the rom and they say it crashes/freezes a lot and some even say that they have flashed their phone with the same rom over and over again (like atleast 5times) and still they complain... but when i watched kyrillos and greenmod rom thread people said that they are almost bug free, even tough that greenmod rom is in beta it looks like its far more stable than apocalyps. and as i see it kyrillos rom is more stable than lastatious(and it isnt in beta) but most of the people will flash their rom with unstable lastatious or apocalyps... why? and if the rom wont work they will flash it again and again... why? why wont you use almost bug free roms instead of crashing/freezing rom? as i see it lastatious and apocalyps are the most downloaded and favorited roms but they are also very unstable roms... and this post was not a hate post to the great rom developers out there, i just dont get it... please reply to my post
p.s this was too big first post right?

Hmm... I don't know (about the unstable ROM flashing) p.s that was quite big post but it doesn't matter p.p.s yes you need 10 posts to post on Dec section

jazux said:
Hmm... I don't know (about the unstable ROM flashing) p.s that was quite big post but it doesn't matter p.p.s yes you need 10 posts to post on Dec section
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dec? you mean dev? ok thanx for clearing that up

filumbro said:
dec? you mean dev? ok thanx for clearing that up
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yeah i mean dev thanks for clearing that up

I myself do it to help the developer by testing his ROM and all of It's features, and then report results to the dev. Seeing as I've got very minimal skills or brain to contribute in the development I see it as the least I can do.

i tryed some. kyrillos did with every reboot a factory reset? i couldnt install apps and my phone got really hot i flashed it twice.. i tryed apocalypse but i got a softbrick when i rebooted my phone? I flashed back to indroid everytime becouse that one worked perfectly but when greenmods v1.0 is ill flash that one. it has 1% battery mod and it has neon theme that i like (sorry for my english)

Lestatious 1.7 worked bug-free.
Lestatious 1.8 has some minor issues with the kernel and Data2SD.
I'd still say Lestatious is the best ROM for me!
Sent From My 1.3GHz Galaxy 3 Lestatious V2 ACID (Build 1.8)

It's the urge to stay on the cutting edge and also the psychology of greener grass. I'm taking more of a backseat now as opposed the first few weeks of having the phone.

why flash unstable / beta ROMs? If you mean mindless flashing ('WOW, cool name, let's flash!!!') then I don't know
but if you want to help with development, testing, reporting bugs, contribute somehow, then it is perfectly justified

Apocalypse is in beta stage and of course it may have some bugs but will be fixed untill the final release.
Lestatious i think its a stable rom but v1.8 has an alpha version kernel which is not as stable as beta or final.
My rom has also an alpha version kernel with some freezes rarely.
I havent tried GreenMod but it seems that its nice rom

kyrillos13 said:
I havent tried GreenMod but it seems that its nice rom
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thanx
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I use Kyrillos because it's very fast and without A2SD+ I wouldn't have enough space for my apps...
And I also think that Kyrillos is mostly stable

kyrillos13 said:
Apocalypse is in beta stage and of course it may have some bugs but will be fixed untill the final release.
Lestatious i think its a stable rom but v1.8 has an alpha version kernel which is not as stable as beta or final.
My rom has also an alpha version kernel with some freezes rarely.
I havent tried GreenMod but it seems that its nice rom
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I flashed your rom 4.1 directly from DDJP2 with the hope that the camera and the faceobook touch site would open. But still it has the camera bug. So i changed to Stock european version new release. XWJPF and i like it.
Though its has the camera bug and facebook touch site wont open. Do you have any solution for this???
DDJP6>DDJP2>Kyrillos 4.1>XWJPF
Will be waitng for your reply soon.

people flash unstable roms because they want to support the developer and test out some of the newer features of the rom. if nobody tests them, how are they gonna stamp out the bugs? unless you want to stick to the boring stock g3.
unstable as it is, its not like any real damage is done. whatever happens, you can just reflash it. no biggie

ayancold said:
I flashed your rom 4.1 directly from DDJP2 with the hope that the camera and the faceobook touch site would open. But still it has the camera bug. So i changed to Stock european version new release. XWJPF and i like it.
Though its has the camera bug and facebook touch site wont open. Do you have any solution for this???
DDJP6>DDJP2>Kyrillos 4.1>XWJPF
Will be waitng for your reply soon.
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I think that you have a hardware problem with your camera. I had problem with it only on Apocalypse beta 3 OC. With any other rom camera working good.
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cop1976 said:
I think that you have a hardware problem with your camera. I had problem with it only on Apocalypse beta 3 OC. With any other rom camera working good.
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I dont think so because it was working perfect on my Stock eclair DDJG6. But after upgraing i am having this prblm. My camera is working perfect but if the location is enabled and if i dont have lock on my position my camera would force close if a click a photo. But if its turned off it works flawlessly. And in FROYO their isnt any option for turning off Geo-tagging.
Do you have any solution for this prblem..or a most stable ROM that doesnt have any prblm.
DDJG6>DDJP2>Kyrillos 4.1>XWJPF

I dont have a solution because like i said before for me camera working good on every froyo rom except apocalypse beta 3 oc.
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ayancold said:
I dont think so because it was working perfect on my Stock eclair DDJG6. But after upgraing i am having this prblm. My camera is working perfect but if the location is enabled and if i dont have lock on my position my camera would force close if a click a photo. But if its turned off it works flawlessly. And in FROYO their isnt any option for turning off Geo-tagging.
Do you have any solution for this prblem..or a most stable ROM that doesnt have any prblm.
DDJG6>DDJP2>Kyrillos 4.1>XWJPF
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Did you try settings -> location & security -> uncheck "use wireless networks". GPS is also not necesarry.

kyrillos13 said:
Apocalypse is in beta stage and of course it may have some bugs but will be fixed untill the final release.
Lestatious i think its a stable rom but v1.8 has an alpha version kernel which is not as stable as beta or final.
My rom has also an alpha version kernel with some freezes rarely.
I havent tried GreenMod but it seems that its nice rom
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hi
i think u got ur answers here
but i have been using kyrillos13 recent rom and its quite stable and good for me
i think its more what one wants if ur a basic user like me its ok. IF u are a heavy user that is u want LWP gps & blah blah then yes u would have many problems
and no matter how good the rom is overclocking is always gona give u the problem because the manufacture has a reason why he has made the phone for a certain speed we try to boost it very very high then their will be a problem
somewhere i read that a +10to 15% is ok but guys here boost it like double so ur bound to get problems

Well basically we all like to stay on the current situation...coz if u miss out on sumthing ull get thrown behind eons...so its better to stay updated here on xda!
Plus checking out alphas betas n oder stable ROMs is quite fun...u get a look of what oder smart-brained dev did to ur fone frm a piece of junk to a heavenly piece!...Happy Flashing!

Most Stable Stock/Custom ROM [Poll added]

Hello all, this is my first post and I have some queries. As we all know the new Samsung firmware JP2 has many bugs like Swype not working, Battery draining very fast etc. I want to know which is most stable ROM which doesn't have these problems.
I don't want to try any custom ROM because of overclocked processor as it will short it's life and void the warranty. I am thinking to flash the JPN ROM but though to get advice before doing anything. I hope it won't have any effect if I use European firmware as I am from India. I am currently using JP6.

I think you should be using Kyrillos' ROM. It's very stable.

Opt for a non-overclocked custom, you won't regret it If you really want to stay using stock roms, i'd suggest JPM/JPN.
Sent from my Lestatious 1.8.5 Galaxy

friend863 said:
Hello all, this is my first post and I have some queries. As we all know the new Samsung firmware JP2 has many bugs like Swype not working, Battery draining very fast etc. I want to know which is most stable ROM which doesn't have these problems.
I don't want to try any custom ROM because of overclocked processor as it will short it's life and void the warranty. I am thinking to flash the JPN ROM but though to get advice before doing anything. I hope it won't have any effect if I use European firmware as I am from India. I am currently using JP6.
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Try the new European release....XWJPF. Its a very stable rom. And no bugs. I am from india too. Its working flawless on my galaxy 3.
DDJG6>DDJP2>Kryillos 4.1>XWJPF

Using Kitchen v1.0 to create a new ROM with your feature do you want.
More details
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1058699
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I'm testing it. Let's go with me.

customs are a balance and trade off
well stock ROM may be the most stable but from my experience of experimentations with different roms, and i've tried many roms, if you are thinking of intalling many applications then stock roms are just useless as you would get blank/black screens too often in the stock Tw launcher as the applications try to load from SD card, where you will have to install them for want of space. so if you want to try lot of applications you will have to go for a custom rom with ext2/ext4 support. after trying many custom roms i've finally stopped at POX v 1.0 non oc. Its silky smooth and thats after installation of more than 43 third party apps/games, though you will have to live with some minor glitches which you wont mind. Yes stay away from OC versions as they drain your battery and freeze your phone. The hardware (processor) structure if galaxy3 if not designed for overclocking though it may be overclocked.

XWJPF + go launcher ex
perfect combination..no lags blazingly fast
(oh yes i,ve also rooted my phone and have set cpu.. , so maybe thats y..still XWJPF...no problems)

i have JPM and thinking of moving to XWJPN.
how is it that JPM is pre-rooted if it is official samsung firmware?

I think you should be using Kyrillos' ROM too. It's very stable.

Samsung engineers aren't idiots or fools.. JP2 is d most stable ROM for this phone. I have used custom roms and trust me..there ain't any ROM more stable.
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dexter8088 said:
Samsung engineers aren't idiots or fools.. JP2 is d most stable ROM for this phone. I have used custom roms and trust me..there ain't any ROM more stable.
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Then i think you should try using the latest European firmware, XWJPF. Its far better than DDJP2. Trust me.

Lol JP2 has many bugs including battery draining issue. How come it is more stable?
Confused between multiple opinions. Might add a poll soon.

If you were to use custom roms, use the Non oc version by Kyrillos. From all the roms that i have tried (there have been many), i have found Kyrillos to be the best.
If you were to use regular Firmwares, the best i believe is either JPF or JPM. A lot of them out there still support JPF, while the constant flashers would recommend the JPM
BTW...Kyrillos is based on JPM

XXJPM by Kyrillos, safe flash and very stable

No worries, I think I have the perfect solution for you... In a few minutes I'll be posting my ROM, which is exactly what you need - because I made this ROM for I had the same problems as you!
Also, I'm writing this, coz I want to post it in the development section but I need 10 posts for that...

There are a lot of ROMs and as far as I see, you should try more then one, because everybody likes a different version...

Yeah, so here I am again. Uploaded, you might even try it - see if the problems go away!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1079052

Now don't mind using any custom ROM if it is stable and good to use.
Poll added just to solve some confusion between multiple choices.

InDroid
InDroid v4 looks good n is going to be released soon
i would prefer non OC as it is more stable but u can look for OC as well!

Allthough I use my own custom ROM, I vote for Kyrillos's ROM because it's very stable and fast. I use it for a long period and I was very pleased.
Kyrillos ROM is not only stable, but gives you the choise of OC or Non OC capability!

[Q] Which ROM would you recommend?

Hello,
I am trying to flash a better ROM for my sister's Galaxy 3, currently the one came with the phone is super laggy and slow. I am coming from the X10 Mini Pro forum, and we only have like 3 custom ROM there, but it seems Galaxy 3 have quite a lot more choices...
I am wondering which one is the currently most stable ROM here that have the lag issue fixed? I flash my X10 quite often, but i don't plan on flash and re-flash my sister's phone. Any suggestion would be greatly appreciated.
Thank you.

i would recommend jpm+jit enabled.....
i am cureently using the same....and i am quite happy with it....

I am a advance user, like i said, i flash my X10 pretty much every time the xda developer come out with a hotfix or a newer version of their ROM, the current ROM that i am running on my X10 have stuff like hybrid Foyo/Gingerbread, overclock, undervolt, jit etc. Is not 100% stable, and i need to force close some stuff once in a while, but i have no problem with it.
I don't mind flashing a custom ROM, as long as one of its release is stable (since this will be for my sister's phone, which is a noob).
However, won't the "stock XXJPM or JPN" still have the lag issue though? I thought all the OEM ROM have the lag issue?

codenamezero said:
I am a advance user, like i said, i flash my X10 pretty much every time the xda developer come out with a hotfix or a newer version of their ROM, the current ROM that i am running on my X10 have stuff like hybrid Foyo/Gingerbread, overclock, undervolt, jit etc. Is not 100% stable, and i need to force close some stuff once in a while, but i have no problem with it.
I don't mind flashing a custom ROM, as long as one of its release is stable (since this will be for my sister's phone, which is a noob).
However, won't the "stock XXJPM or JPN" still have the lag issue though? I thought all the OEM ROM have the lag issue?
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try my rom

i would suggest destiny!

jazux said:
i would suggest destiny!
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Can't, glanced through it,
"This ROM is fast.. no known bugs(only the camera bug), restarts, laggs etc.."
My sister uses the camera for SURE.

codenamezero said:
Can't, glanced through it,
"This ROM is fast.. no known bugs(only the camera bug), restarts, laggs etc.."
My sister uses the camera for SURE.
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hmm... i really tought it was stable... then you can make your own custom rom via Team Lambent Corrosion kitchen and if you want ROM without problems, a "buggless beast" then dont flash any ROMs

I suggest it too, it has Fugumod, the latest firmware and some bug fixes...

jazux said:
i would suggest destiny!
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Shouldn't you be plugging your own ROM?
That aside, I think stock JPM will do her a treat. Or then deodexed + JIT + Fugutweaks. The camera is an issue pretty much in every rom and it can be avoided by disabling the location stuff. Or it could be someone has a fixed Camera.apk laying around somewhere. If so, let me know, I want it.

PolarSoul said:
Shouldn't you be plugging your own ROM?
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no i was thinking that destiny might be the most stable ROM here and thats why i suggested it and as i said EVERY rom has bugs but i tought destiny didnt... and people should just try GreenMods ROM i dont want to say its the best, i know when people test it they will love it i dont have to recommend it

PolarSoul said:
Shouldn't you be plugging your own ROM?
That aside, I think stock JPM will do her a treat. Or then deodexed + JIT + Fugutweaks. The camera is an issue pretty much in every rom and it can be avoided by disabling the location stuff. Or it could be someone has a fixed Camera.apk laying around somewhere. If so, let me know, I want it.
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Hum.. i know X10 Mini Pro's ROM has Camera.apk that came with it, and works, but i prefer the Sony Ericsson's SECMCamera.apk instead. So i swapped it out. I wonder if that Camera.apk would work on Galaxy 3...
I think i will try to download and gather up the above mentioned 2 ROMs, and try it out this weekend then...

recommend a rom

after becoming fustrated with the lack of a update for north/latin america, ive decided to flash my phone. Im currently on jh2 and its working really well without problems. Ive download jpm to flash but not sure if it will work as its a european rom and also been hearing recently it has a few bugs like the battery showing an incorrect percentage.
So can any1 tell me if it will work/recommend me one that will.

Well i can tell you one thing - you will be getting lots of advises !
However, first you might try the latest Canadian Firmware which was released last week since that seems to be the closest stock ROM you can get for North America
P.S. - You might check THIS THREAD too...

That jpm bug is real i think
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Tianhe said:
Well i can tell you one thing - you will be getting lots of advises !
However, first you might try the latest Canadian Firmware which was released last week since that seems to be the closest stock ROM you can get for North America
P.S. - You might check THIS THREAD too...
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First thanks for responding, Ive seen the canadian rom but it barely been tested. I think only 2 ppl have tried it.

I recommend http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=957123 with the latest fugumod

fallensoldier said:
after becoming fustrated with the lack of a update for north/latin america, ive decided to flash my phone. Im currently on jh2 and its working really well without problems. Ive download jpm to flash but not sure if it will work as its a european rom and also been hearing recently it has a few bugs like the battery showing an incorrect percentage.
So can any1 tell me if it will work/recommend me one that will.
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if u wanna go for stock rom then the best option is XXJPM and in custom rom its Indroid 4.2

brjshshrma said:
if u wanna go for stock rom then the best option is XXJPM and in custom rom its Indroid 4.2
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I've installed indroid 4.2 and it's a really nice rom. The only thing until now that's not working is the gps. It takes really long time to get a fix. And when i get a fix, my google navigation crashes. In indroid 3 it was working perfectly.

Thanks for all the responses guys. As this is my first time flashing ill stick with stock. I have the the jpm without bootloader files so ill give it a go.
Btw anyone know if its recommended to remove your sim and sd when flashing or optional.

use stock JPM most of the custom roms are stock modded and nothing special..
Use stock and your own ****ty tweaks which is a lot better !

I recommend cyanogemod....Marcellusbe is working on that. It will be great if he finishes it.

try Destiny Based on JPN, and its fully stable.

I recommand the Kyrillos'ROM 5.5
It's the more stable and battery saver rom i've ever tried !
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=957123
And yes, cyangenmod when it's finished, big thanks to marcellusbe
sorry for my english.

fallensoldier said:
Thanks for all the responses guys. As this is my first time flashing ill stick with stock. I have the the jpm without bootloader files so ill give it a go.
Btw anyone know if its recommended to remove your sim and sd when flashing or optional.
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Its optional.

I recommand the Kyrillos'ROM 5.6, quick responses if problem with your phone

Franckydiam said:
I recommand the Kyrillos'ROM 5.6, quick responses if problem with your phone
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Even the indroid developers respond very quick and to the point. Rudolf is awesome. @everyone: go for indroid 4.3

Hi
My preference is:
Kyrillos 5.7 JPM-based with Fugumod 2.2 Bleeding Edge kernel OC 1300mHz
Most stable ROM I've used, quick responses and no FC so far (only been using again for 8 days but hey all the others I tried would FC a few times a day). I love it!
Switched to Indroid for a while and it is good but went back to Kyrillos as I prefer it.

Ive finally flashed (jpm). I just couldnt wait anymore. Everthing seems to be working good thus far, Thanks for all the help.

for american roms try stock DTLKDA or rafo's ROM those are the only ones I know for america I am currently on Rafo's Rom and its very stable btw I am new to this forum

I would recommend using team lambent kitchen and creating your own personal rom. I'm using jpq with g3 v1.32 lite for extra stability. G3 has a ram script built into it already so just remember not to install the ram hack performance mod.
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Get jpm and customize it according to your needs...
No fc's at all.....most stable
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[Q] Best rom for HTC Magic?

Hello everybody and excuse me for starting a new thread. I would like to know wich is the best custom rom for HTC Magic, a friend of mine gave me his phone to flash a custom rom, he has no idea of flashing roms and he is amazed by my custom roms on Galaxy S. As long as i know the phone is rooted( i verified with Titanium Backup)
and i will follow the steps for flashing something on this device. All i want to know is what should i install for him? I just want something stable. Thank you!

Honestly if you want something stable and good on battery life, stay stock and just theme the stock rom. . . it's less hassle, don't have to worry about flashing radios, spl's, or worrying about a bug .ect .
I've used CM6, and ezGingerbread. . . unfortunately none of these froyo rom's worked for me after the 1st boot so i went back to stock and themed mines .

GeEazy said:
Honestly if you want something stable and good on battery life, stay stock and just theme the stock rom. . . it's less hassle, don't have to worry about flashing radios, spl's, or worrying about a bug .ect .
I've used CM6, and ezGingerbread. . . unfortunately none of these froyo rom's worked for me after the 1st boot so i went back to stock and themed mines .
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Thank you for the info...i'm pretty disappointed about this phone, however is not mine , it's a pain in the ass to find all the **** you need (like outdated links). Finally i flashed CursorSense and my friend is happy with.

mikka06 said:
Thank you for the info...i'm pretty disappointed about this phone, however is not mine , it's a pain in the ass to find all the **** you need (like outdated links). Finally i flashed CursorSense and my friend is happy with.
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Lol yeah it is a pain, and im glad he's happy with it, its still a good phone .

DreamTeam Froyo ROM
mikka06 said:
I would like to know which is the best custom rom for HTC Magic...I just want something stable.
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I've been pretty happy with the DreamTeam Froyo ROM. It's been very stable and in my experience the phone is a bit snappier as compared to the stock (T-Mobile) ROM.

Ion Rom for Magic is perfect. It's the most close to a stock rom, but with better energy behavior.
I've just pull my Magic out of the cupboard to use it during "dangerous" activities (trekking, etc), and I'll give him Ion again.

mikka06 said:
Hello everybody and excuse me for starting a new thread. I would like to know wich is the best custom rom for HTC Magic, a friend of mine gave me his phone to flash a custom rom, he has no idea of flashing roms and he is amazed by my custom roms on Galaxy S. As long as i know the phone is rooted( i verified with Titanium Backup)
and i will follow the steps for flashing something on this device. All i want to know is what should i install for him? I just want something stable. Thank you!
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The most stable rom I've ever used is Froyobylaszlo. I just ext 4 and nothing else and it runs fine.

sionce i had this phone i never wanted to use the stock 1.5,, it's so annoying and very stupid and not supported by most of my apps "skype,viber,nimbuzz,whatsapp..etc" and so i changed to CM6 and it was so stable running it for daily use for about a year!! it's soo stable and powersaving is much pretty oookaay
now i'm using GingerYoshi it is reeeaally awesome and makes everything fast and easy and more stable than CM6 in games but it reboots immedietly if RAM went full it does not manage it well u'll need to use a task manager and close apps frequently..
short words,, i was really happy with my CM6 froyo but now i'm happier with GingerYoshi.. GY here i guess it's sticky up there in development

mikka06 said:
Hello everybody and excuse me for starting a new thread. I would like to know wich is the best custom rom for HTC Magic, a friend of mine gave me his phone to flash a custom rom, he has no idea of flashing roms and he is amazed by my custom roms on Galaxy S. As long as i know the phone is rooted( i verified with Titanium Backup)
and i will follow the steps for flashing something on this device. All i want to know is what should i install for him? I just want something stable. Thank you!
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If you want something stable, you'd probably not feel like trying those mimicking the custom ROM on Galaxy S.
The stablest ROM I tried ever, with New Radio on my 32A device, is FroyoDragon0.7 with custom Froyo themes.
All the APKs you need can be found in the Android Market (Enabler).
It is really worthy of a try.

Totally agree with above post, froyodragon 0.7 is by far the best rom i've come across for this phone, second to that would be bananabread 3.1...very fast roms. no prob;lems so far, currently using froyodragon.