I might be upgrading today. It's just been a very difficult decision. Evo or evo shift? I watched many comparison videos. It seems like shift would be the way to go, because its 2nd generation snapdragon. But I love the big screen on the evo, its huge so you don't need a hardware keyboard. Games- I don't play much(besides Star Traders), just a couple. I'm all about fast browsing and watching videos like on YouTube etc. Thanks for reading, and I would appreciate your input
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I think I'm going to hold off until the next big phone after the EVO. Gotta be HTC, though. I'd say go EVO unless you need the keyboard.
I just got a shift... I'm say get the shift... everythings much easier on the shift if u surf the web, reply to emails and texts and surf the forum apps
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Dual cores from Qualcomm are coming. Its a safe bet EVO 2 will be announced at CTIA later this month for release in June. I would wait...
I'm in the same boat as you, just hit my upgrade date this past Tuesday and was worried i would need to upgrade this month because of the changes to Sprint Premier coming April 1st. Went to my local sprint store and i was assured that i would not lose my upgradeable status come April. So instead of the Evo like i was originally going to get i think i'm going to hold out and see how Kyocera Echo feels. That dual display may seem like a gimmick to some but i think i'll like it, if only to have the ability to have a full touchscreen keyboard when typing.
or like fpineda101 said hold out and see what they announce later this month.
The Echo will need to have custom apps written for it. It will have a custom SDK. Also, it's Kyocera.
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The Echo will need to have custom apps written for it. It will have a custom SDK. Also, it's Kyocera.
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They can make a pretty good phone if they put their minds to it, I still regard the Kyocera Koi/KX 2 as one of the best phones I ever had.
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If a Rep told you that you keep your upgrade, you probably want to either a) read the letter sprint sent to you or b) go read the web site they put up for it. There's a link to it in the epic vs evo shift topic in the q&a section
Edit: it was in this section. My bad. Here's the link though. And if you're paying $90/month base plan so that you get to keep your upgrade you're getting ripped off anyway and of course in that case they'd let you keep your upgrade
http://premier.sprint.com/premierupdate/faq.html
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I'm guessing since your Sprint rep told you that you get to keep your 12 month refresh then you must be on the $90 or above individual plan or the $170 and above family plan, because anything less than those plans will loose the 12 month Sprint Premier refresh. I summarized the new Sprint Premier FAQ over on this thread. So, if you are on an individual plan less than $90 or family plan less than $170, then please read this excerpt from Sprint's Premier FAQ.
Q:How is my upgrade eligibility impacted?
Effective 4/1/11:
Sprint Premier Gold accounts will continue to receive the annual upgrade benefit based on maintaining a 3-month average of $89.99* for individual plans or $169.99 for shared plans, or for 10+ years service. Gold accounts will receive one annual upgrade per qualifying plan.
Sprint Premier Silver accounts:
If the line qualifying for an annual upgrade is 22 months from the last upgrade, there is no impact. The line would continue to be eligible for an upgrade under Sprint's New For You upgrade program, which allows eligible customers to upgrade every 22 months.
If the line qualifying for an annual upgrade is 12-21 months from the last upgrade, the upgrade must be used by March, 31, 2011. Otherwise, effective April 1, 2011, the upgrade eligibility on that line will be changed to 22 months.
If the line qualifying for an annual upgrade is less than 12 months from the last upgrade, their upgrade eligibility will be changed to 22 months.
To check your upgrade eligibility go to www.sprint.com/upgrade.
*3-month average includes base rate plans only. Add-on services do not qualify. The average is figured per plan before any discounts are applied. Additional lines on shared plans or multiple plans on the same account do not count toward the minimum spending requirement.
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I'd go with the EVO Shift, it's a faster more simple version than the EVO in my thoughts.
Plus, it looks to have the newest technology compared to the EVO.
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I heard on SprintUsers that there is going to be a change in upgrade eligibility effective April. How 100% certain it is I don't know, but Duffman an Advanced Sprint Tech posted about it yesterday. Another user inquired on it and received an emailed response. So it's looking kinda legit. Linkage: http://www.sprintusers.com/forum/showthread.php?t=216413
It appears you have to meet a certain plan price point to qualify for "Gold" status to be eligible to a 12 month upgrade. Silver and everyone else is only eligible to the full upgrade every 22 months. These price points are before the cost of Add a lines, Insurance, taxes, Premium Data etc. So the Base plan price is what counts, from what I understand.
The question at hand is if it will reset your upgrade date come 04/01/11. So if you were due a 12mo upgrade on 04/01/11 has it now been pushed out to 04/01/2012? Or will they be like Verizon and make it effective upon your next upgrade?
Anyone else heard anything or have any "insider" information. I can see this being true with the pending Feb 7 announcement they have planned. Verizon changed their policy and then announced the iphone almost immediately after that. Sprint might be following suit.
From the email that dbldwn02 received:
Dear John,
Thank you for contacting Sprint. I understand your concern regarding the Sprint Premier Program policy change.
Effective April 01, 2011, Sprint Premier Program is being updated to offer two levels of benefits, Sprint Premier Gold and Sprint Premier Silver, based on customer's MRC and tenure.
Sprint Premier Gold :
Sprint Premier Gold customers receive all the current benefits of Premier, including annual upgrades on 1 line per qualifying plan (or 10+ years service). All other lines on a Premier account currently are upgrade eligible every 22 months under Sprint's New for You Program.
To be Sprint Premier Gold, customers must have at least 6 months tenure and meet the following qualifications:
• Individual plans with a 3 month average MRC of at least $89.99 or
• Shared plans with a 3 month average MRC of at least $169.99 or
• Tenure of 10+ years with Sprint Wireless
• Good standing.
Sprint Premier Silver :
Sprint Premier Silver customers receive all the current benefits of Premier, except the annual upgrade. These customers will qualify for a
$75 upgrade every 12 months or $150 upgrade at 22 months under the standard New for You upgrade program.
To be Sprint Premier Silver, customers must have at least 6 months tenure and meet the following qualifications:
• Individual plans with a 3 month average MRC $69.99-$89.98 or
• Shared plans with a 3 month average MRC $99.99 -$169.98
• Good standing.
After April 01, 2011, your account will become the Sprint Premier Silver account and the handset upgrade eligibilty of your account will be reset as per the new Sprint Premier Program policy. I apologize for the inconvenience you have faced due to this.
Thank you again for contacting Sprint.
Sincerely,
Sprint
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Disappointing move on Sprints part if it's true - and it sounds like it is. 1 yr upgrades were part of the reason I chose sprint over Verizon
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i hope this is not true wont hurt me to much i have all that for the gold upgrade package but for others this will suck
Maybe I'm reading this wrong, but it looks like they're about to screw over just about every person who picked up an Evo last year. Many of us picked up the phone as a premier member knowing that we'd be eligible for Sprint's next June release (this year). Most people aren't going to have an individual recurring charge of 89.99 because the 79.99 pretty much gives you unlimited everything. Looks like you have to be on a family plan to be a gold member.
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Maybe I'm reading this wrong, but it looks like they're about to screw over just about every person who picked up an Evo last year. Many of us picked up the phone as a premier member knowing that we'd be eligible for Sprint's next June release (this year). Most people aren't going to have an individual recurring charge of 89.99 because the 79.99 pretty much gives you unlimited everything. Looks like you have to be on a family plan to be a gold member.
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Word is they are going to roll out a new unlimited plan for $89.99 too. Unlimited minutes/data etc and I *think* 4G is included in there, if not it too is a $10 charge. Lot's of changes seem to be coming this year.
Wow. That sucks, it was a major competitive advantage. It sounds from the thread on SU that it will reset your eligibility date...meaning everyone who has bought the Evo expecting to do a premier upgrade in a year is probably stuck with no discount until 2012. What really sucks is that I don't think there's jack you can do about it. It was a perk program, and not part of your contract at all. I doubt this will give anyone an ETF free termination option.
I wasn't premier eligible myself anyway, because I'm on SERO premium (which more than compensates for it). But for anyone not on SERO or thinking about coming over to Sprint, the annual upgrade was a major reason to consider staying with/switching to Sprint. They still are ahead of the other carriers in value, but they appear to be steadily chipping away at that. I'm not so sure I'd stay with Sprint if VZW was the same price.
Here's the thread on SU:
http://www.sprintusers.com/forum/showthread.php?t=216413
i still don't get the 10 year thing
Sprint used to be unstoppable back in my SERO days. Now it's a good value but not so far ahead with the addition of premium data, etc. This change pretty much kills my next upgrade and might just push me and a lot of the other more techy heads out to other carriers.
Living the cheap off contract HSPA+ life with T-Mo is looking more and more attractive.
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i still don't get the 10 year thing
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You either need to have a plan with the above listed price point or be a Sprint customer for 10 years. So if you have an individual plan with a $59 base price and have been a customer since 2000, you still qualify as Premier Gold. You don't meet the price guidelines, but being a 10 year customer automatically entitles you to the Gold benefits.
This is how it has always been. Either a 10 year customer, on a $69.99 plan or higher for individual lines or $99.99 plan for family plans. Must be on the plans for at least three months an additional lines qualify every 22 months. Has never been different. I haven't heard anything about it changing anytime soon. This is a bad rumor to make Verizon look good.
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Sounds like if you've been with Sprint for 10 years and you're in good standing, you're considered a gold member. Basically a loyalty reward
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This is how it has always been. Either a 10 year customer, on a $69.99 plan or higher for individual lines or $99.99 plan for family plans. Has never been different. I haven't heard anything about it changing anyone soon. This is a bad rumor to make Verizon look good.
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Looks real; and it is different. $70 vs $90, $100 vs $170 BASE plans... almost nobody but unlimited everything qualifies now. Premier finally means premier.
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Looks real; and it is different. $70 vs $90, $100 vs $170 BASE plans... almost nobody qualifies now. Premier finally means premier.
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This is a bad rumor. $169.99 is the highest family plan available and $89.99 is $10 less than their unlimited plan. Would be stupid for Sprint to charge it's customers it's highest prices available. Again, nothing has been said about this at Sprint, not even a leak. Someone is posting this to not make Vzw look horrible.
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Sounds like if you've been with Sprint for 10 years and you're in good standing, you're considered a gold member. Basically a loyalty reward
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If they're not counting Nextel as a part of those 10 yrs I'm gonna have to slap a b****
DirtyShroomz said:
This is a bad rumor. $169.99 is the highest family plan available and $89.99 is $10 less than their unlimited plan. Would be stupid for Sprint to charge it's customers it's highest prices available. Again, nothing has been said about this at Sprint, not even a leak. Someone is posting this to not make Vzw look horrible.
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Seems like the second change is a $89.99 unlimited single plan. Lines up perfectly. You can pretend or hope its not true but people are getting confirmations from reps. Check out the sprint users thread.
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Seems like the second change is a $89.99 unlimited single plan. Lines up perfectly. You can pretend or hope its not true but people are getting confirmations from reps. Check out the sprint users thread.
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Well have to wait and see, no rep would have any information before my department. Guaranteed. But we have until Feb 7th to find out
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This is a bad rumor. $169.99 is the highest family plan available and $89.99 is $10 less than their unlimited plan. Would be stupid for Sprint to charge it's customers it's highest prices available. Again, nothing has been said about this at Sprint, not even a leak. Someone is posting this to not make Vzw look horrible.
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Simply Everything® Family
Everything you need for the whole family - unlimited text, surf, email, listen, watch, find and, of course, talk - on one simple plan.
This plan includes
Unlimited data on our network: Web surfing, email, BlackBerry Internet Services (BIS), GPS Navigation, Sprint TV and Radio, NASCAR Sprint Cup MobileSM
Unlimited Direct Connect: Direct Connect and Group Connect (for capable phones)
Unlimited messaging: Text, pictures and video
Unlimited talk on our network: Anytime Minutes and nationwide long distance
Lines 1-2 included. Lines 3-5 $89.99/mo./line
> Learn more about what's included in this plan
Anytime Minutes Monthly Price Additional Anytime Minutes Lines
Unlimited $189.98 Unlimited
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Simply Everything® Family
Everything you need for the whole family - unlimited text, surf, email, listen, watch, find and, of course, talk - on one simple plan.
This plan includes
Unlimited data on our network: Web surfing, email, BlackBerry Internet Services (BIS), GPS Navigation, Sprint TV and Radio, NASCAR Sprint Cup MobileSM
Unlimited Direct Connect: Direct Connect and Group Connect (for capable phones)
Unlimited messaging: Text, pictures and video
Unlimited talk on our network: Anytime Minutes and nationwide long distance
Lines 1-2 included. Lines 3-5 $89.99/mo./line
> Learn more about what's included in this plan
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Well c. Lines 3-5 $89.99 each? Lol
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yea read that too 89.99 for 3,4,5 each HOLY HELL
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yea read that too 89.99 for 3,4,5 each HOLY HELL
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Seems a little ridiculous to me. I doubt they want to go from the cheapest to the most expensive, over 3 phones, none being the iPhone. Still think it's a horrible rumor, retentions would have known already to prepare to "save" people.
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I currently qualify for a Sprint Premier Upgrade ($150 off, etc). I bought my EVO unsubsidized (quite expensive), so I don't really have any reason to be using my upgrade at this time. I don't really care for the Epic or the Evo Shift.
This April 1st change to Premier status as me worried. I'll be downgraded to silver. That's fine, I'm ok with only getting a GOOD deal on upgrades every 2 years, every other company is like that. BUT! I currently qualify for an upgrade now. Will I lose the ability to use this come April 1st?
I know it's not a HUGE deal if that happens, my two years will come around in October (I bought a launch HERO, so I'm "upgrading" from that). Still though, I could use my upgrade to grab a new phone now, and sell it and recoup a ton of what I paid for my unsubsidized EVO. But if I can wait until summer to use my upgrade, I'd like to see what comes out. I'd like to be the first kid on my block with a new fangled whatever using my upgrade.
I don't think they'll take it from you but anything can happen.
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When I called I specifically asked the rep "If I'm due for upgrade in June will I lose it?" and she said "no". She said she would note my account and that she would send me an email confirmation.
I've never received an email confirmation from a rep since actively being on Sprint. I have to call again this week and get something in writing.
I would say yes since you're grandfathered in but only they can tell you what their policy states.
Just posted on Phandroid
[Update] Sprint Premier Program is Not Going Away, Just Adding a New Tier Starting April 1st
Read on for Sprint’s official statement on the matter.
Sprint is updating the program for 2011 with two tiers of benefits, Sprint Premier Silver and Sprint Premier Gold, making sure that Sprint Premier Silver retains the benefits that were popular with the most customers. Effective 4/1/11:
Sprint Premier Gold customers must only meet ONE of the following three qualifications:
· Individual plans with a 3-month average MRC** of at least $89.99, or
· Shared plans with a 3-month average MRC** of at least $169.99 MRC, or
· Tenure of 10+ years with Sprint
Sprint Premier Silver customers must only meet ONE of the following two qualifications:
· Individual plans with a 3-month average MRC** of $69.99 – $89.98, or
· Shared plans with a 3-month average MRC** of $99.99 – $169.98
Once Sprint Premier Silver customers reach 10 years service with Sprint, they automatically are graduated to Sprint Premier Gold status regardless of the plan they are on.
** 3-month average MRC is based on voice plans only, not including add-on services, and is figured before any discounts are applied.
In addition to the change noted above, it’s important to highlight that both Sprint Premier Gold and Silver customers will continue to receive all the other perks: discounts on accessories, proactive plan checks and just because offers; device credits that are among the best in the industry; and exclusive extras like Premier Community, anniversary rewards and first to know.
Sprint Premier remains one of the best customer loyalty programs in the wireless industry. When compared to other national carriers, the Sprint Premier package of benefits far outranks any rewards program currently offered.
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When I called I specifically asked the rep "If I'm due for upgrade in June will I lose it?" and she said "no". She said she would note my account and that she would send me an email confirmation.
I've never received an email confirmation from a rep since actively being on Sprint. I have to call again this week and get something in writing.
I would say yes since you're grandfathered in but only they can tell you what their policy states.
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I just called and the rep had no idea what I was talking about when I mentioned the changes. He did tell me that, either way, I should at least get 1 12 month upgrade, which is due in July, before I have to wait for 22 months on the Silver plan.
I know a lot of people are going to jump on the ditch Sprint bandwagon because of this BUT we all need to look at one thing. Verizon just dumped their renewal program all together and AT&T won't be far behind... At least Sprint is still offering an early renewal even if the did tighten their belts a little on the qualifications...
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I know a lot of people are going to jump on the ditch Sprint bandwagon because of this BUT we all need to look at one thing. Verizon just dumped their renewal program all together and AT&T won't be far behind... At least Sprint is still offering an early renewal even if the did tighten their belts a little on the qualifications...
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Att already dumped it too. Sprint is now officially the only one with yearly upgrades
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My upgrade comes through on March 1st.. I've looked into each of these phones with great detail. This is what I've come up with in a nutshell. And I want everyone's professional opinion as ill be using this phone for a year or two.. thx guys and gals..(is there a girl on xda yet? ;p)
Stock pros of shift: pocket friendly, higher quality exterior, possibly more support on xda, I heart HTC.
Stock pros of epic 4g: better battery life, amoled screen, front facing camera, video card for twice the gaming potential
Both are 99.00 on Amazon with upgrade eligibility (so is the evo, but I don't need a tablet just yet, 4" is quite enough for me) .. I use sprint im not switching its cheap.. I'd rather have a steak then slightly improved cell service. I have wifi at home anyways..
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I'm curious what replies you get, because my upgrade comes up soon.
My first thought would be to hold off until Sprint gets a sweet dual core.
I have an upgrade sitting around that I probably wont use until it goes away and then late this year I get it back with the new premier program (unless my hero takes a crap). I'd be more inclined to go with the shift, though some report it being a little "shift"y with regards to the slider seeming cheap. Any other complaints seem like things you'd adjust to (the volume/power locations). I've been keeping up with their forums a bit and it's still a bit young but seems to be off to a good start on that front. And people report it being fast as hell. If I go back to a slider, which I'm inclined to do, I'd go with the shift. The epic...well, I don't know a lot about it. I did play with one a little and it did seem fast and stable and well put together, but dev info here did get a bit confusing to me. I have quite a bit of practice at all of this, and I probably wouldn't have too many issues actually following the steps, that was just my impression.
I will be sticking with sprint myself as long as they remain cheap...hard to beat a 20% plan/25% equipment discount. I'm not just waiting to upgrade for some dream phone, my hero just works great. Honestly, I'd like to see a portrait slider for android, similar to the dell venue pro.
xda + android + HTC =
http://www.echobykyocera.com/
^Doesn't seem popular to a lot of people but I'm more interested in it than the epic or shift.
I know you might not like this, but I would wait a month after your upgrade is available. In march is CTIA, the event where the Evo was released. And from what I believe and others do too, is that the Evo 2 will be announced then. Most likely dual core, new sense, 2.3, and possibly superlcd from HTC. Honestly I would wait, not like your upgrade is going to expire.
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Honestly I would wait, not like your upgrade is going to expire.
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But there is Sprint's new TOS for Silver vs Gold Premier service that takes affect April 1.
From what I'm reading throughout the internet is that existing Premier customers (like me) that don't qualify for Premier Gold won't be grandfathered in after after April 1. So, since my 12 month Premier happens before April 1, I have to pull the trigger on an upgrade before April 1 or I will loose it after April 1 and have to wait until the 22nd month of my contract. Even the Sprint customer service responses that I've read here and there are advising this too. So, I'm not sure what to make of it all.
Also, could this be why we have not seen a lot of new Android goodness on Sprint lately? Sprint could be waiting until after April 1 when the new Premier goes into affect before releasing a lot of new smart phones so that they don't get saturated with current Premier customers wanting to upgrade under the present 12 month rule.
Update: Here's a link to the Sprint TOS page about the upgrade impact. I definitely loose it after April 1. Read the question about, 'How is my upgrade eligibility impacted?' for all the details.
Except for the Nexus S, there is no reason to buy Samsung at all.
He seems to be correct about the new tos from sprint... I spoke to them on the phone about it they are getting rid of there og sprint premier program software one upgrade every year to the industry standard of once every two years. Ill call and ask again whether or not the upgrade rolls over but from the sound of it it doesn't. Grr. I have a soft spot for HTC as I've been using there fine phones since Samsung was even in the market. My first HTC was the P4350, winmo 5 I believe it was. Either way I need to figure out what to do within the next month here.
sent from my hero aosp2.2 cause aospcm7 2.3 was not as fast or stable for me.
Considering the 2.2 Epic update FINALLY just hit, and then was subsequently pulled within a day or two, should tell you something.
I was in the Sprint store the other day and everyone but one sales person had great things to say about the shift. Nobody liked the epic as much.
I have owned two samsungs, the moment and instinkt. Now I am a full blown hero addict. HTC is where it's at!
I've had my upgrade available since august but been waiting for something dual core love. Does anyone here think if I up grade now I will still be able to upgrade again in August. Before you were able to upgrade every year for the main phone on a family plan but after 2 years you were able to upgrade all the phones. My 2 year cycle is comes up in august.
And one more thing. With all the drama with Sprint's 4G network provided by Clearwire and Clearwire's big money problems, it may be that Sprint doesn't want to bring anymore phones via Clearwire's 4G service to the market since Sprint will probably have to switch to LTE.
So, there's another dilemma to add to the equation. I'll be getting a 4G capable phone and be charged an extra $10 for whatever, but 4G may not even exist during the entire 22 months of the new contract...drama, drama, drama...
So if we wait after 4/1 to upgrade would our upgrade default to half the full discount. Cause that's what I think I'm gonna do.
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I've had my upgrade available since august but been waiting for something dual core love. Does anyone here think if I up grade now I will still be able to upgrade again in August. Before you were able to upgrade every year for the main phone on a family plan but after 2 years you were able to upgrade all the phones. My 2 year cycle is comes up in august.
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You get your upgrade a year (well, two years) after you use it. Shouldn't of sat on it for so long..
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You get your upgrade a year (well, two years) after you use it. Shouldn't of sat on it for so long..
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What should have he got? Sprint is falling behind in the new era of dual core phones. Yes I know that the Evo2 will probably be dual core but, I GUARANTEE it wont be out before 4/1/11. So my upgrade will be lost on April Fools day, and ill get the Evo2 12/28/11.
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I just got the shift recently coming from a hero and would recommend this phone. My friend has a sammy epic and its a great phone but the quality is a little lacking. It just feels plasticky... I heard the epics actually run better for game emulation and such which has something to do with the achitechture.
The shift has been great tho. Its a good form factor and has a really nice keyboard. I've has a sidekick a mogal and a touch pro before going to the hero so I've has my fair share to keyboards to say that its a good keyboard. Very solid and sturdy. The phone is very snappy. I was running aosp 2.2 on the hero and thought it was pretty snappy but the shift blows it away even with sense. Still waiting for an aosp rom for this phone.
Enough with the rant... get the shift... haha
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I was in the same boat, I was really interested in the kyocera phone, but saw that no matter what Sprint was going to charge $10/month for a premium phone, so I figured might as well go with a 4g phone in the off chance that my area gets included in the next year. I settled on the Evo Shift, for 2 reasons, one I don't really play intense 3D games on my phone, so I didn't need the extra graphics addition, and two I know the development for the Shift will be good as more people start to move away from the Hero and Evo they will more likely go to the Shift then the Epic being familiar with HTC.
Some pleasant surprises, the stock Shift has amazing battery life when compared to the Hero. I can't imagine the Epic with any better battery life, with a bigger screen and more graphics horse power eating away. Rooting the Shift was very easy, not Unrevoked easy but still 20 minutes easy. The shift is being over clocked to 1.5 Ghz and still very stable. Development is taking off especially since the end of January.
I stopped by a Sprint store a few weeks ago when they changed my premier status.
They said once you earn an upgrade they won't take it away. Call customer service to verify but I'm 99% certain come April 1 we will all still have our upgrades (mine just hit today) and will be able to look forward to something coming out in May/June that will have been WELL worth the wait.
Just upgrade your Hero to GB and ride it out. At least wait for CTIA...if nothing drops by then go get your EVO. You're going to hate yourself if you get an EVO Shift tomorrow and the EVO II gets announced in 3 weeks.
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I stopped by a Sprint store a few weeks ago when they changed my premier status.
They said once you earn an upgrade they won't take it away. Call customer service to verify but I'm 99% certain come April 1 we will all still have our upgrades (mine just hit today) and will be able to look forward to something coming out in May/June that will have been WELL worth the wait.
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I'm sorry that you actually believed that. Read it for yourself. If I'm not paying for the $89.99 plan come April 1 because I'm on the $69.99 everything plan, then Sprint says I loose the 12 month premier refresh until the 22nd month of the existing contract. This is from Sprint's Premier Update questions web site;
Q:How is my upgrade eligibility impacted?
Effective 4/1/11:
Sprint Premier Gold accounts will continue to receive the annual upgrade benefit based on maintaining a 3-month average of $89.99* for individual plans or $169.99 for shared plans, or for 10+ years service. Gold accounts will receive one annual upgrade per qualifying plan.
Sprint Premier Silver accounts:
If the line qualifying for an annual upgrade is 22 months from the last upgrade, there is no impact. The line would continue to be eligible for an upgrade under Sprint's New For You upgrade program, which allows eligible customers to upgrade every 22 months.
If the line qualifying for an annual upgrade is 12-21 months from the last upgrade, the upgrade must be used by March, 31, 2011. Otherwise, effective April 1, 2011, the upgrade eligibility on that line will be changed to 22 months.
If the line qualifying for an annual upgrade is less than 12 months from the last upgrade, their upgrade eligibility will be changed to 22 months.
To check your upgrade eligibility go to www.sprint.com/upgrade.
*3-month average includes base rate plans only. Add-on services do not qualify. The average is figured per plan before any discounts are applied. Additional lines on shared plans or multiple plans on the same account do not count toward the minimum spending requirement.
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DaWeav said:
I'm sorry that you actually believed that. Read it for yourself. If I'm not paying for the $89.99 plan come April 1 because I'm on the $69.99 everything plan, then Sprint says I loose the 12 month premier refresh until the 22nd month of the existing contract. This is from Sprint's Premier Update questions web site;
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Wow. This sucks. Thanks for the info. Guess I'll go get my EVO today...
This was taken from the Sprint Premier forums. http://community.sprint.com/baw/thread/76419
"Hi xxxx
This is Clarissa with the Premier team.
Thanks for your patience. We received clarification that Premier Gold customers using their eligible annual upgrade before 10/2/11 will have one more annual upgrade available to be used by 12/31/12. If the annual upgrade is used on or after 10/2/11, that line would then be moved into the New for You program to be upgrade eligible every 20 months. In your situation, if you used your annual upgrade on 9/16/11; you would have one more annual upgrade available to be used by 12/31/12.
Please let me know if you have any further questions.
Thanks,
Clarissa"
So to sum this up, if you upgrade now you'll get another 12 month upgrade. If you wait till after Oct 2 your moved to the "New for you program" https://manage.sprintpcs.com/specialoffers/RebateWelcome.do which lets everyone upgrade every 20 months.
I for one was going to wait till mid Oct until I read the above quote.
Thanks for the heads up.
I, myself, became eligible for the yearly, but I wanted to wait for a (possible) google phone before the end of the year. Then, I could get another phone late next year.
With this, I may have to get the E4GT.
Also, the "new for you" is changing to 20 months.
Another source: http://community.sprint.com/baw/thread/76419
The answer for this question is yes. Current Premier Gold customers who upgrade tomorrow (or prior to 10/2/11) would qualify again for an upgrade in 12 months (that they would be able to use before 12/31/12). After that, they are going to qualify every 20 months under the New for you Handset upgrade program.
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bertm13 said:
Thanks for the heads up.
I, myself, became eligible for the yearly, but I wanted to wait for a (possible) google phone before the end of the year. Then, I could get another phone late next year.
With this, I may have to get the E4GT.
Also, the "new for you" is changing to 20 months.
Another source: http://community.sprint.com/baw/thread/76419
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I was waiting on the same phone. I ended up ordering the E4GT today. Here is a link that I used for Wirefly $139 it seems to be the cheapest atm.
http://www.wirefly.com/eCommerce/SpecialOffer.aspx?cid=26987_e41cce1f800744a8b0f324db40971a48
I say get an upgrade for you guys, and sell it for half of retail if you can still live with the epic.
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So is it worth it for me to upgrade to a epic touch just so I can get an upgrade? Or should I just wait it out for a better phone.
I'm leaning towards getting an epic touch.
I am focused on waiting for the Nexus Prime. This is makin my resolve waver.
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fastmikey1969 said:
So is it worth it for me to upgrade to a epic touch just so I can get an upgrade? Or should I just wait it out for a better phone.
I'm leaning towards getting an epic touch.
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Upgrade to the epic touch, sell it to me for 190$ then get yourself your las yearly update when its due!
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ac16313 said:
Upgrade to the epic touch, sell it to me for 190$ then get yourself your las yearly update when its due!
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What a deal! I checked eBay they're going for $500 Buy It Now.
fastmikey1969 said:
What a deal! I checked eBay they're going for $500 Buy It Now.
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Lol wow that's enough to put me down under for a good 5 months, and by then another better phone will be out!
But that's a good plan, sell your upgrade and use it to fund your next phone!
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Have they ever told you of a half upgrade or some crap like that? I went in and since I've had Sprint for one year, id be available for some upgrade tomorrow. Turns out its some $75 off crap...I'm wondering if one of the employees was just on one or something cuz it sounds like crap to me...
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HeartGold95 said:
Have they ever told you of a half upgrade or some crap like that? I went in and since I've had Sprint for one year, id be available for some upgrade tomorrow. Turns out its some $75 off crap...I'm wondering if one of the employees was just on one or something cuz it sounds like crap to me...
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$75 off the full price of the phone = 500-75 = $425
AFAIK, it also requires a new 2 year contract. Not worth it, IMO
Dvin211 said:
So to sum this up, if you upgrade now you'll get another 12 month upgrade. If you wait till after Oct 2 your moved to the "New for you program" https://manage.sprintpcs.com/specialoffers/RebateWelcome.do which lets everyone upgrade every 20 months.
I for one was going to wait till mid Oct until I read the above quote.
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I'd wait for Oct 1/2nd to do the upgrade.
Then you still have the 14 day swap, if the Prime comes out.
I'd be careful with this one guys...
I looked into this a little bit today - I had two separate conversations with two different Sprint Customer Service Reps regarding this...both of the reps had the same reply…..
“The Premier program is coming to a close at the end of 2011. Sprint Premier Gold customers - who aren't immediately eligible under the New for You Upgrade Program - will have until the end of 2012 to take advantage of their last qualifying annual upgrade. Once customers take advantage of their annual upgrade they will seamlessly transition to the New for You Upgrade Program under the new rules. (OR) If the customer does not utilize their upgrade eligibility before the end of December 2012 then they too will seamlessly be transitioned to the New for You Upgrade Program under the new rules (whichever scenario comes first)”
I am a Sprint Premier Gold customer & eligible for my annual upgrade. However, based on the above statements and the confusion surrounding this topic, (although itching to get my upgrade now) I will wait to see what new phones will be coming out over the next couple of months to make my final decision.
As a former Epic user, now utilizing the ET4G, I say...totally worth it.
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abowlby said:
As a former Epic user, now utilizing the ET4G, I say...totally worth it.
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Oh Great - the ET4G is what I've been itching to upgrade to...comments like yours makes it tough for me to stay strong (LOL)
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I'd be careful with this one guys...
I looked into this a little bit today - I had two separate conversations with two different Sprint Customer Service Reps regarding this...both of the reps had the same reply…..
“The Premier program is coming to a close at the end of 2011. Sprint Premier Gold customers - who aren't immediately eligible under the New for You Upgrade Program - will have until the end of 2012 to take advantage of their last qualifying annual upgrade. Once customers take advantage of their annual upgrade they will seamlessly transition to the New for You Upgrade Program under the new rules. (OR) If the customer does not utilize their upgrade eligibility before the end of December 2012 then they too will seamlessly be transitioned to the New for You Upgrade Program under the new rules (whichever scenario comes first)”
I am a Sprint Premier Gold customer & eligible for my annual upgrade. However, based on the above statements and the confusion surrounding this topic, (although itching to get my upgrade now) I will wait to see what new phones will be coming out over the next couple of months to make my final decision.
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If you look at my first post this came right from the Sprint Premier forums. If you wait till after Oct 2 then your going to lose out on a second 12 month upgrade. Do what you want though. I for one believe the Sprint mods posting in that forums compared to some random people in a call center.
In fact here is the proof. I'm a Sprint gold premier member. I just used my 12 month upgrade a few days ago to get the Epic touch.
When I go here to check when I'm eligible for my next upgrade https://manage.sprintpcs.com/specialoffers/RebateWelcome.do?ECID=vanity:upgrades
This is what it shows for me.
"Eligibility Results
Sprint New For YouTM Upgrade Program
Sorry, but you are not eligible for upgrade savings at this time.
Please note, in order to receive the pricing and offers outlined below, you will need to agree to a new contract and other conditions. More detail on this is provided below.
New For You Upgrade Details
Our records indicate the phone associated with this Sprint phone number will be eligible for the following savings on the dates shown below.
Savings Amount Eligibility Date
$150 with a two-year subscriber agreement (or $75 with a one-year agreement) 09/01/2012
Customers eligible for $150 with two-year subscriber agreement can either get $150 off or Sprint’s nationally advertised price on a new device, whichever is better. Nationally advertised price reflects regular price minus all eligible mail-in and instant rebates.
The $25 and $75 offers are a savings off regular price.
If you are seeing an N/A under your eligibility date, you are identified as a large business or government account. This offer is for small businesses and consumers only. Please contact your account representative for current available equipment offers."
Reread this line "Our records indicate the phone associated with this Sprint phone number will be eligible for the following savings on the dates shown below.
Savings Amount Eligibility Date
$150 with a two-year subscriber agreement (or $75 with a one-year agreement) 09/01/2012"
As you can see I'm eligible to upgrade again in 12 months.
So if your a gold premier member upgrade before Oct 2 or you"ll wait 20 months for the next upgrade.
This is assuming that I'd want to get another phone next year. I don't see a point to getting a phone right now because I'm happy with my Epic, and none of the other phones out there right now are not that big of a step. If I wait for several months, there will probably be a bigger-stepped phone, then I would have to wait 20 more months before I get another one.
I guess I could sell my upgrade if anyone wants to buy it, but I'm not really all that interested myself.
knyque said:
This is assuming that I'd want to get another phone next year. I don't see a point to getting a phone right now because I'm happy with my Epic, and none of the other phones out there right now are not that big of a step. If I wait for several months, there will probably be a bigger-stepped phone, then I would have to wait 20 more months before I get another one.
I guess I could sell my upgrade if anyone wants to buy it, but I'm not really all that interested myself.
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Yes sell your upgrade make some money AND keep your still functional epic, and for all you know you might want a new phone next year, or not and you can get that upgrade and sell it again making yourself at [least] $200!
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I wonder if I can pull some magic and still use this upgrade while getting another one in a year cuz I want to get another epic for $100 then give this epic refurb to my daughter as a wifi tablet lol
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A few months ago Sprint underwent a handful of changes that weren’t too appealing. Many blamed the coming of the iPhone, which definitely was the culprit for some of the Now Network’s policy changes. However, looking at the meat of things, a company does need money to run.
With that said, we’re hoping that we’ve braced you for today’s bit of bad news. Our beloved Super Spies have obtained an interesting piece of intel that outs yet another Sprint policy change. Starting on February 1st 2012, Sprint will no longer offer discounts on secondary lines. This means if you’re currently receiving any type of discount on your monthly bill on an account with multiple lines, you can expect your bill to receive a slight increase.
Once in effect, Sprint will move the charge of $19.99 from your plan’s primary line to its secondary line. Depending on the percentage of your discount, you’ll see a dollar increase in the amount of your discount percentage based off of $19.99. For example: If your discount is 25%, under the new policy you’d take 25% of $19.99 to determine your new monthly increase. In the example given, your increase would be approximately five dollars.
This new change will definitely help Sprint save some cash. However we’re wondering if it may come at a cost of a few customers? Please keep in mind that this will only affect customers receiving discounts on their monthly bill with multiple lines, which means a lot of you are exempt from this change. In the meantime, here’s to hoping Sprint puts that new cash to good use, like getting that LTE network up and running.
Source:http://www.sprintfeed.com/2011/12/s...ing-february-2nd-2012-it-just-might-cost-you/
Just another reason for me to cancel Sprint. I can't believe they would screw with corporate discounts.
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goalweiser said:
Just another reason for me to cancel Sprint. I can't believe they would screw with corporate discounts.
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Agreed they keep shooting their selves in the damn feet
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well crap, I've been with Sprint for 9 years now, but if they are taking away my discount its time to move on.
Lol yeah starting to not like sprint. First started off with sero and was told that in order to get new phones we must upgrade to a higher plan, then a few months later they changed that policy to sero plus. Then they take away our corporate discount because they said our esrp family plan was already the lowest plan which I understand because we were double dipping. I really don't see the reason to stay with sprint any longer, just waiting out on my uncle's line to finish, and see what others will offer
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Well with this change u can get out of contract, my coworker called last time and instead of cancelling they credited him the difference every month for a year and gave him a month of free service for each line head line 4 to 6 when Sprint removed the discount on links past 2 or whatever it is now,
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