Just bought nexus s congratulations to me

Just bought nexus s congratulations to me - Nexus S General

Just got the nexus s today what do I do
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Make calls, send texts, and generally use it?

get to know it then ROOT IT!!!

mazodude said:
get to know it then ROOT IT!!!
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I double this, load a custom ROM, do whatever
Congrats on the phone, it is a great one

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I double this, load a custom ROM, do whatever
Congrats on the phone, it is a great one
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Congrats.
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Welcome to the club!!
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1. Visit market.android.com (with your desktop, laptop, iPad , netbook, etc browser)
2. Install apps like there's no tomorrow.

congratulations 1st
i dont think you need to install custom roms. i think the phone is perfect as its " for me anyway "
even though i want to ask you. assuming you know that dual core phones are starting to come from this month. " optimus 2x" with tegra 2 from nvidia, 8M 1080p video recording, hdmi output and 1.3 M front facing camera, why did you pick up the nexus S now ?
did you get it used for a good price ?
or you didnt know about newer phones coming in the market very soon ?
or you dont care about new technology and just want a pure google expierience without any added extra " theme" ?
because reading your question in the first post, you pretty much dont know how did you end up with the phone lol

Grats, should be getting mine today
going to be my first smartphone.
as for the question above me, at this time i don't see a need for dual core phones.
one of the main reasons why I went for the NS, is that it is not as common as many other phones, I like having something that not many others (atleast in my area) have.

eyals76 said:
Grats, should be getting mine today
going to be my first smartphone.
as for the question above me, at this time i don't see a need for dual core phones.
one of the main reasons why I went for the NS, is that it is not as common as many other phones, I like having something that not many others (atleast in my area) have.
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how do you figure it out ? how do you figure it out that you dont need a dual core phone ?
the prices are not much of a difference, specialy if you are going to buy it new.
i am sorry but unless you provide me with a good reason like super amoled. pure google expiernce whatever, then there is no point of buying the nexus s TODAY when new phones are coming out within week or so.
same cant be applied for people who bought it when it came out in Dec.

Why don't I need a dual core phone? simple, for me the phone is mostly for calling and texting, now that i will have a smart phone I will add GPS navigation, emails, music, videos and casual gaming and probably other stuff that i might discover along the way.
From all that I have seen today on the internet and on smartphones that friends have, all these options run great on todays hardware.
Another reason for the nexus s is the 4" screen. most next gen devices are coming out with 4.3" screen, that makes the phone too big for me.
And I like the idea of the update support from google and not needing to rely on the manufacturer for updates.

eyals76 said:
Why don't I need a dual core phone? simple, for me the phone is mostly for calling and texting, now that i will have a smart phone I will add GPS navigation, emails, music, videos and casual gaming and probably other stuff that i might discover along the way.
From all that I have seen today on the internet and on smartphones that friends have, all these options run great on todays hardware.
Another reason for the nexus s is the 4" screen. most next gen devices are coming out with 4.3" screen, that makes the phone too big for me.
And I like the idea of the update support from google and not needing to rely on the manufacturer for updates.
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all what you said apply on both phones
both are good in calling, both are good in gps emails music videos. and gaming.
the difference is the dual core just does it better in terms of multi media and gaming " better performance "
as for the 4.3 screen. its fine. even though optimus 2x is 4.0 screen and so is the atrix as far as i know
the only reason i see that you might have a point is the updates directly from google. which is good reason enough to buy the phone assuming you are honest with your self when you typed that as one of the main reasons. because yeah it takes much longer to get updates if its not from google.

Congrats on the phone.
@ll_l_x_l_ll
1ST) Don't forget that nexus S is a developer phone. If user wanted features, they would be better off buying any other android in today's market. If they want FM, memory slot, better cam, fancy UI, cheaper in price there are many other better options out there in competition to nexus s, and those options where already there before in December then the phone came out. main advantage of nexus s is that it is basic android phone with direct support from google. new software updates comes out to this phone then any other. that is handy for people developing, testing or integrating software for android.
2ND) dual-core cpu, with better performance GPU, bigger screen = short lasting battery, inconvenient to carry.... also dont forget u r buying a phone, not a PC. wont u rather play those nicer games on ur PC then on phone; come on, dont tell me everyone just keeps travelling whole week with no time to sit at a desk and enjoy games, videos, music. I still find it more convenient to send a proper email from my PC then from phone, though i like the fact that i can scan new emails quickly and sometimes send short replies (SMS-like). in short, I think going for those dual-core as soon as they come out would be an overkill. I would rather wait 10 months to a year, and buy the second generation of dual-core phones when they have better-ed battery use, with smaller size and get to choose from more apps that support dual-core.
3RD) for the enthus out there, its a matter of must have, whenever they can afford it, whatever they use it for, even if they understand the phone completely or not, its a toy by their preferred brand

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Congrats on the phone.
@ll_l_x_l_ll
1ST) Don't forget that nexus S is a developer phone. If user wanted features, they would be better off buying any other android in today's market. If they want FM, memory slot, better cam, fancy UI, cheaper in price there are many other better options out there in competition to nexus s, and those options where already there before in December then the phone came out. main advantage of nexus s is that it is basic android phone with direct support from google. new software updates comes out to this phone then any other. that is handy for people developing, testing or integrating software for android.
2ND) dual-core cpu, with better performance GPU, bigger screen = short lasting battery, inconvenient to carry.... also dont forget u r buying a phone, not a PC. wont u rather play those nicer games on ur PC then on phone; come on, dont tell me everyone just keeps travelling whole week with no time to sit at a desk and enjoy games, videos, music. I still find it more convenient to send a proper email from my PC then from phone, though i like the fact that i can scan new emails quickly and sometimes send short replies (SMS-like). in short, I think going for those dual-core as soon as they come out would be an overkill. I would rather wait 10 months to a year, and buy the second generation of dual-core phones when they have better-ed battery use, with smaller size and get to choose from more apps that support dual-core.
3RD) for the enthus out there, its a matter of must have, whenever they can afford it, whatever they use it for, even if they understand the phone completely or not, its a toy by their preferred brand
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1- then you agree with me. because thats what i said for people who bought it in Dec, then yeah. awesome. but for someone who is today, going to shop for a phone. i am sorry but the nexus S is not as a great value as say,, atrix or optimus 2x ( unless i want google updates or want a super amoled screen.. you know.. reasons to own a nexus S phone ". as a consumer, i dont give a crap if the phone is a developers phone or not. the end results is what matters to me.
PLUS i also agreed on the part that if he bought the phone for google updates, then thats a valid reason and he made the right choice " if it was honestly his intention like me who got sick of galaxy S lame updates by samsung.
2- the battery excuse was proven wrong with both optimus 2x released in korea where people report that the phone last more than 1 day with heavy usage . and the atrix even has a 1900 mah battery. that will pobably last longer. so please dont use that excuse.
and i know i am buying a phone. but if my phone can do pc stuff as well. then hell yeah. after all, you bought your phone for multi media. music. gps , movies, games etc. these are all PC stuff. otherwise you would have stayed on a cheap nokia phone that do nothing but calls. to me you seems you are trying to justify your purchase saying nexus S is a phone when atrix/optimus 2x are not a phone but PCs. when they both are doing the same functions exactly. but the atrix optimus 2x doing it better.
dont justify your reason for a phone. you pick whatever you want. its a personal taste, you might have bought the nexus S because you like the hardware design. its your money. you do whatever you want. when i asked i wanted a honest answer as maybe. just MAYBE he made the wrong choice. after all, we all come here for discussion and feedback/complaints/help if needed. thats what makes us a great community. " aside from troll posts ofcourse "
3- i also agree with you on this. thats what i just above. personal taste.

ll_l_x_l_ll said:
how do you figure it out ? how do you figure it out that you dont need a dual core phone ?
the prices are not much of a difference, specialy if you are going to buy it new.
i am sorry but unless you provide me with a good reason like super amoled. pure google expiernce whatever, then there is no point of buying the nexus s TODAY when new phones are coming out within week or so.
same cant be applied for people who bought it when it came out in Dec.
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LOL.
I actually agree with you that it's an odd time to be buying a Nexus S for most folks, but your final sentence there doesn't sit quite right.
You seem to be saying that the "magic" timeframe to justify buying a phone when better/faster/slicker devices are just around the corner is 3 months? I don't want to be buying a new phone every three months, though I've sort of fallen into that trap over the last year (Nexus One, Galaxy S i9000, iPhone 4, Nexus S all bought and kept in less than a year, with several others given a test drive).
Those of us who bought the Nexus S in December were heavily criticized even back then for buying what many called "outdated" technology with dual core phones coming out in a few months.
My experience with Android phones has been that there is ALWAYS a better phone coming out in a month or two. Pick what meets your needs today and get it and don't worry about justifying the purchase to some stranger in a forum...you'll go nuts otherwise.

ll_l_x_l_ll said:
congratulations 1st
i dont think you need to install custom roms. i think the phone is perfect as its " for me anyway "
even though i want to ask you. assuming you know that dual core phones are starting to come from this month. " optimus 2x" with tegra 2 from nvidia, 8M 1080p video recording, hdmi output and 1.3 M front facing camera, why did you pick up the nexus S now ?
did you get it used for a good price ?
or you didnt know about newer phones coming in the market very soon ?
or you dont care about new technology and just want a pure google expierience without any added extra " theme" ?
because reading your question in the first post, you pretty much dont know how did you end up with the phone lol
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well i am in love with the way the nexus s looks and i'd rather wait for the galaxy s 2 which the guy told me 4th quarter but if it comes out earlier these bad boys go on ebay for like $500-650 so i will just sell and buy the phone off contract

I was one of those who decided to buy a Nexus S now. In my case, a friend of mine was traveling to the US and coming back this week. I had an option of getting an Atrix or a Nexus S.
The reasons I went for the Nexus S are:
1) Motorola not only locked the baseband, but this time they signed the files. This makes the Atrix almost iPhone-like. If I wanted a closed system, I'd have stuck with the iPhone some time ago, and not switched to Android.
2) I owned a Galaxy S, which I gave to my wife (who had a Milestone) and I'm in love with Super AMOLED screens. It has raised the bar really high for me, and I wouldn't settle for any screen. Many Atrix users have reported that the Atrix screen, despite the resolution, is not that great.
3) Atrix ships with Android 2.2, and who knows when they'll have 2.3 (considering this is Motorola we're talking about.) And with Android 2.2, the Atrix seemed sluggish (on the interface) in every video I've seen so far.
4) Considering that phones are much more expensive here in Brazil, I was able to sell my wife's Milestone for just as much as I paid for the Nexus. And I even managed to give my friend (who bought it) a sweet deal. That's how expensive these things are around here. So I didn't really spend any money on the upgrade.
I don't know when my friend will be in the US again, so it was kind of a "now or never" sort of thing.
I guess I'll just wait for Google to release the next Nexus, or go for the Galaxy S2 in a few months. Right now, I'm really happy with my choice. The Nexus S feels like someone took the Galaxy S (which was already a phone I really loved) and made it even better.
Just my two cents...

ll_l_x_l_ll said:
how do you figure it out ? how do you figure it out that you dont need a dual core phone ?
the prices are not much of a difference, specialy if you are going to buy it new.
i am sorry but unless you provide me with a good reason like super amoled. pure google expiernce whatever, then there is no point of buying the nexus s TODAY when new phones are coming out within week or so.
same cant be applied for people who bought it when it came out in Dec.
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I can afford both phones, but am leaning towards the Nexus S for the following reasons:
1) SAMOLED colors and contrasts
2) Usable front camera for video calls
3) Will get Ice Cream (GPU acceleration and Gtalk video chat) in June, unlike the encrypted Atrix (next December, maybe?)
4) Most good apps will run on it just fine, while Atrix only has a couple of good Tegra 2 games and many apps that won't run on it till devs have a reason to update them by the end of the year (like all the video call apps, for instance).

Congrats on your phone!
Ignore the people who think you bought it late. I'm still waiting for it to be released in my country (should be any day now). It will be my first smartphone. My previous 2 phones (yeah I only had two) were Sony Ericsson Walkman phones, which are the best "dumb" phones there are in my opinion, but I have kept an eye on Android since it has been introduced. I have been patiently waiting untill the OS would be more grown-up, and I think the time has come.
I'm not the kind of guy that buys another phone within a year. If I buy a phone, I plan to use it for at least 2 years. Because of that, I want a phone that I think I can use for more than 2 years. It has to be special to me.
But, this doesn't mean I want the latest hardware. I am more than happy with what the Nexus S can do, and for now I don't see any reason to have a dual-core device. There just aren't features that I may use that need it, and the Nexus S is fast enough. Of course, since dual-core phones aren't more expensive than the Nexus S, I could just buy a dual-core phone, but the Nexus S seems more complete to me. And this is a thing I can't really describe....
I just think the Nexus S is unique. Unique enough to last more than 2 years, and still have people saying "nice phone".

ll_l_x_l_ll said:
1- then you agree with me. because thats what i said for people who bought it in Dec, then yeah. awesome. but for someone who is today, going to shop for a phone. i am sorry but the nexus S is not as a great value as say,, atrix or optimus 2x ( unless i want google updates or want a super amoled screen.. you know.. reasons to own a nexus S phone ". as a consumer, i dont give a crap if the phone is a developers phone or not. the end results is what matters to me.
PLUS i also agreed on the part that if he bought the phone for google updates, then thats a valid reason and he made the right choice " if it was honestly his intention like me who got sick of galaxy S lame updates by samsung.
2- the battery excuse was proven wrong with both optimus 2x released in korea where people report that the phone last more than 1 day with heavy usage . and the atrix even has a 1900 mah battery. that will pobably last longer. so please dont use that excuse.
and i know i am buying a phone. but if my phone can do pc stuff as well. then hell yeah. after all, you bought your phone for multi media. music. gps , movies, games etc. these are all PC stuff. otherwise you would have stayed on a cheap nokia phone that do nothing but calls. to me you seems you are trying to justify your purchase saying nexus S is a phone when atrix/optimus 2x are not a phone but PCs. when they both are doing the same functions exactly. but the atrix optimus 2x doing it better.
dont justify your reason for a phone. you pick whatever you want. its a personal taste, you might have bought the nexus S because you like the hardware design. its your money. you do whatever you want. when i asked i wanted a honest answer as maybe. just MAYBE he made the wrong choice. after all, we all come here for discussion and feedback/complaints/help if needed. thats what makes us a great community. " aside from troll posts ofcourse "
3- i also agree with you on this. thats what i just above. personal taste.
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There isn't another phone or tablet on the market now or coming in the near future that can push out 4.4k on quadrant without breaking a sweat. Dual cores won't be worth it until they have ice cream and can make use of both cores until then the only reason to own one is to make you feel like your gadget **** is bigger.
Furthermore why buy an atrix now when the HTC pyramid is coming soon? Dual 1.2 ghz snap dragon cores? Hell yes. Oh wait by the time that comes Tegra 3 phones will be coming out. So why buy a dual core when quad core phones are coming?!. .................
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So, I have been playijg around with my new Nexus S for a few hours and have everything loaded up like before. It's an awesome phone, just not surs ifbit is a $500 upgrade from the Nexus One that I currently own. My biggest issue is the limilted memory... with 12 gigs of music, my work files and others- I think I will run out soon, I am guessing they come out with a 32 gig before long. I will hang on to this and see how my N1 performs with GB. I really don't need a front facing camera or NFC chip. But I must admit, this thing is great and really flies! Anyone else having second thought?

It's disappointing that Google is going the Steve Jobs way trying to control what we can or can't do with our phones. I prefer my Nexus one 1000 times over this mediocre-half-ass attempt of a phone. I'll wait for Google to try again next year and bring back the tracking ball, memory slot, and a metallic casing instead of the plasticky one.
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calin75 said:
It's disappointing that Google is going the Steve Jobs way trying to control what we can or can't do with our phones.
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Yeah, I don't really see the Google Walled Garden. You'll have to explain.

I am almost positive there will be a Nexus-M by Motorola, they really want in on the Nexus name I have heard. Might be called the Nexus-3.0 and released after Honeycomb comes out, but that's just rumors I have heard. I thought Moto was gonna get the Nexus-2 before Samsung got involved, so I am sure they are working on a Nexus phone for release in 2011.
Right now, today, the Nexus-S is the best Android phone on the market, if you want pure Android, with no carrier bloatware, and no branding crap like Sense or Touchwiz, and you just need to root this phone to make it bad ass, no real need for a custom rom like C 6.1.
I would not want the first dual core phone to market anyways, let them work out the kinks and bugs first, and I'll take the second round of dual core phones. Will give them time to really optimize Android for dual core after the 2nd gen is out.

I think the OP was asking if you have actually bought the phone are you having second thoughts.

To go from a Nexus One to a Nexus S and call it an upgrade is an oxymoron. To pay money and get a phone with less features is unwise. Gingerbread is coming to the Nexus One anyway.
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calin75 said:
To go from a Nexus One to a Nexus S and call it an upgrade is an oxymoron. To pay money and get a phone with less features is unwise.
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Where does Google say it's an upgrade? Link, please.
If you're just whining because the Nexus S doesn't have all the features that you want, then please stop. Go somewhere else and start your own thread, where you can complain all you want that the phone doesn't have a Jet Pack or a Rocket Launcher.

calin75 said:
It's disappointing that Google is going the Steve Jobs way trying to control what we can or can't do with our phones. I prefer my Nexus one 1000 times over this mediocre-half-ass attempt of a phone. I'll wait for Google to try again next year and bring back the tracking ball, memory slot, and a metallic casing instead of the plasticky one.
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It's hardly the same thing. Sure, Google may have taken out a couple features that you find important, but they are definitely not controlling anything. These decisions ONLY affect the Nexus S. The MANY other Android phones are not affected. So if you want a trackball and expandable memory, you can very well have that. Just buy a different phone. Apple on the other hand, prevents this freedom since the iPhone is the only available iOS phone.

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Where does Google say it's an upgrade? Link, please.
If you're just whining because the Nexus S doesn't have all the features that you want, then please stop. Go somewhere else and start your own thread, where you can complain all you want that the phone doesn't have a Jet Pack or a Rocket Launcher.
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This is a forum for people to share their opinions. If you really like the Nexus S, you shouldn't get mad if others don't. Go buy one, enjoy it and move on. But try to understand that different people use their phones differently.
For me, the lack of SD storage is a deal breaker. Like the OP, I have easily over 12GB of music that I load on my phones. I don't want to carry an MP3 player on top of my cellphone. Nexus S's lack of SD slot leaves me with very limited space for my other data (work emails, apps, pictures and clips that I shoot, and so on). Having said that, I could see how this wouldn't be an issue for someone who doesn't fill up their phone.
Secondly, no matter how you spin it, the hardware is not a noticeable step ahead from the Nexus One, or the myTouch 4G. The S has a 1GHz processor and so do a whole slew of phones by Samsung and other manufacturers.
Thirdly, the Nexus S doesn't utilize TMO's HSPA+ network. Again, this may not be a big deal for somebody who doesn't do heavy data on their phone. But I do, and I happen to live in an area where TMO's "4G" network works extremely well. I definitely consider going from HSPA+ back to "3G" a downgrade. You may not share that view...
Basically, the only selling point for the S is Gingerbread. Based on certain information I have, the MT4G is highly likely to get a 2.3 update on the other side of the year. A minor OS update isn't enough to convince me to buy this phone.
As for your "upgrade" comment, technology is expected to get better over time. It's just the way it works. Google doesn't need to hold a press conference event to tell us whether this phone is an upgrade over a phone released nearly a year ago. That is expected to be the case.

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I think the Nexus phones are Google's iPhone. It is untouched by Carrier bloatware, and untouched by phone brand UI's. This is the "pure" Android experience, sort of how iPhone is the "pure" Apple phone experience, but they only have one phone anyways, so sort of hard to compare, but you get my drift.
Is the Nexus-S gonna be the top dog hardware, no. But it will always be up to date with the current OS, and not really needing any custom roms, just a root. Sure in two months from now, there will be dual cores etc...but they will also have Moto blur, or TouchWiz, or Sense UI, and then have Verizon Bing search, or ATT crap ware. I like the virgin Nexus, even if she is a little slower
Every Christmas time there will be a new Nexus, running the latest OS, sort of like every summer there is a new iPhone. I hope this keeps going.

Zorachus said:
Sure in two months from now, there will be dual cores etc...but they will also have Moto blur, or TouchWiz, or Sense UI, and then have Verizon Bing search, or ATT crap ware.
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even if there is, until android is written to support it, and the apps are as well, having an extra core will be useless.
I'm going to sit on my n1 until a dual core dev phone is released. By that point, my n1 will be at the same hardware comparison with the new phone that my g1 was with the n1

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even if there is, until android is written to support it, and the apps are as well, having an extra core will be useless.
I'm going to sit on my n1 until a dual core dev phone is released. By that point, my n1 will be at the same hardware comparison with the new phone that my g1 was with the n1
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Agreed, I would not want to be beta tester on the first gen of dual core phones, could be buggy, or could not offer any performance gains until the Android OS is totally ready for it . Now a dual core Nexus development phone would be nice.

Probably going to return mine
This phone is nice, but I really don't c much performance upgrade over my Nexus One. When I tried to watch some flash videos, it was just as choppy as my Nexus One...I was very disappointed. I think right before the remorse period is over I will return the phone and go back to my N1.

I visited Best Buy during lunch and got to play with a demo unit. The first impression is that the phone feels cheap. Yes, we've read about this many times in reviews, but I don't think one realizes it until one has it in their hands. It feels like a toy. And for whatever reason, it feels cheaper than the Vibrant; maybe because of expectations (Nexus branding and all)? I don't know. In some ways, the Vibrant's cheapness still feels like quality.
Granted, I was only using it for no more than 5 minutes, I was quite underwhelmed. Gingerbread sure is smooth, though.

Driving home with mine right now. 30 day return policy with no restocking fee. Ill see how gb does on my nexus one also and if I find any buyers. If gb flies on n1 and no buyers ill return. Can't wait to get home and charge it then wait till its done before I use. Fffuuuuuuu
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I too am underwhelmed with the device so far. Oh yes it is fast and smooth but I am getting Fc's and some have to do with the GPS which does concern me. My GPS has been spotty so far and I still recall the torture with the Vibrant's GPS. Also Market has not updated to the new market. I thought GB would include that for sure(perhaps it is not actually released yet although I have it on my Vibrant. I do like the feel of the phone though. It is heavier to me than the Vibrant or the MT4G

... Like 2 dicks and no *****, Samsung and Android don't mix.
Sorry but that's just the god's honest truth.

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I too am underwhelmed with the device so far. Oh yes it is fast and smooth but I am getting Fc's and some have to do with the GPS which does concern me. My GPS has been spotty so far and I still recall the torture with the Vibrant's GPS. Also Market has not updated to the new market. I thought GB would include that for sure(perhaps it is not actually released yet although I have it on my Vibrant. I do like the feel of the phone though. It is heavier to me than the Vibrant or the MT4G
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If you're getting FC's out of the box, do a full reset of the phone. If it keeps doing it even afterwards, then exchange it.

This is my first Samsung device and I disagree with the folks saying that it feels cheap or like a toy. My only complaint about it's build quality after having played with it for the last several hours is that I wish they had used some rubberized texture coating or something because the phone is pretty slick.
I'm sure I'll get used to it though and adjust my grip accordingly.
shawn1224 said:
... Like 2 dicks and no *****, Samsung and Android don't mix.
Sorry but that's just the god's honest truth.
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LOL I'm writing that one down.

Nexus One: End of Life (what are you gonna do)

I love my nexus one and yes I was tempted by the nexus s but as we all know internally its just another random device out there. My question is when dual cores come out what are you going to do with your Nexus One?
My plan is to keep my Nexus One at home in the box as my back up phone. Ever so often take it out boot it up and flash it to the lastest version of Android it can handle.

Well I think the n1 is far from its end of life. The only disadvantage it will have over the dual cores is ability to run advanced games. Unless google makes major ui changes like how running live wallpapers made the g1 look more like a last gen device, then we are good
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I don't understand, how much money do people spend on phones in this forum?
I'm hoping to use my Nexus for at least 2 more years. There is absolutely nothing out or coming out soon that seems like a large enough jump for me to justify buying another phone.

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I don't understand, how much money do people spend on phones in this forum?
I'm hoping to use my Nexus for at least 2 more years. There is absolutely nothing out or coming out soon that seems like a large enough jump for me to justify buying another phone.
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same here...
i'm actually just waiting on purolator to come to my door to give me my nexus one...
if i want to play games, i'll use my xbox... haha.
or i'll get a tablet.
i'm interested in seeing what motorola is going to show us... definitely putting off on buying a tablet until then.

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Well I think the n1 is far from its end of life. The only disadvantage it will have over the dual cores is ability to run advanced games. Unless google makes major ui changes like how running live wallpapers made the g1 look more like a last gen device, then we are good
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That just might be what Honeycomb is. Speculation but we all pretty much know that it will bring a huge change to how the UI works.
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I plan to keep my Nexus One until early 2012 because frankly, I can't afford to replace my phone every time something faster comes out.

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I plan to keep my Nexus One until early 2012 because frankly, I can't afford to replace my phone every time something faster comes out.
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Same. Unless something awesome comes out on a really good contract. I do like the look of that LG Star/2X, and I imagine 'better' manufacturers will come out with their similar spec'd offerings shortly, which is why I have no real interest in the Nexus S.
At that point, the N1 will be sold for whatever I can get for it

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I plan to keep my Nexus One until early 2012 because frankly, I can't afford to replace my phone every time something faster comes out.
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See I can afford to replace my phone with the latest and greatest the thing is there isn't anything worth buying. I play games on my computer, not my phone so the Nexus S doesn't benefit me in any way.
I'll dump my N1 when something ground breaking comes out (dual core might be it but would need support for it) or when my N1 feels slow like my sons G1 does compared to my N1.

I'll upgrade to a Nexus S once they're free (or $50) on contract, and a decent car dock is shipping. The N1 car dock leaves a lot to be desired, but I wouldn't be without it.
I bought my wife a NS to replace her broken G1, and frankly I'm amazed at how much I like it over the N1. It's ridiculously fast and the 4" screen is a lot better for my middle-aged eyes. My N1 gets so laggy at times I just want to smash it, and I've never had that happen with the NS.
It baffles me why they can't release accessories like car and desk docks when these phones come out, instead of waiting 3-6 months.
I might give some thought to running an AOSP ROM on a Galaxy S, but with the G1 and N1 I've really preferred the bugs in Google's official releases over the bugs in the other ROMs I've tried. Right now my N1 has FRG83D+root and I'm looking forward to the official 2.3 update.

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I bought my wife a NS to replace her broken G1, and frankly I'm amazed at how much I like it over the N1. It's ridiculously fast and the 4" screen is a lot better for my middle-aged eyes. My N1 gets so laggy at times I just want to smash it, and I've never had that happen with the NS.
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The irony is, that NS CPU performance-wise is about equal to N1. Hence it must be the difference between 2.2 and 2.3. Or you have some funny background tasks on your N1.

I dont plan on upgrading until something that's clearly a generation leap comes out. Im used to upgrading every year but haven't found anything worth upgrading to yet
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I dont plan on upgrading until something that's clearly a generation leap comes out. Im used to upgrading every year but haven't found anything worth upgrading to yet
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I had the same problem with my N95

I dont upgrade every time something new comes out my upgrade was there for the g1 when it came out Oct two years ago. My contract went up in Oct of this year currently out of contract. I bought my N1 off of someone from Clist for 320 back in May. I figured since I have the upgrade why not use it and put my N1 in a safe place where it wont get hurt

In the current scenario , there's absolutely no reason to justify an upgrade . Gingerbread based ROMs will appear soon & I am absolutely clear in my mind that even honeycomb can be modified to run smoothly on our N1's albeit some overclocking might be necessary with higher versions of android . But thats not the case with gingerbread & Nexus S is a complete failure from my point of view as a Google Developer / Flagship device.
I am not willing to upgrade for atleast one more year .

Can I have one fact about NS CPU being faster than N1's?
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I am eyeing the Motorola Olympus because of build quality and tegra dual core. But I would have gladly bought the Nexus S if it had two mics and AT&T 3g bands. I can't figure out why these GSM phones aren't all pentaband these days. The antenna chips are usually capable but they leave out key parts like certain cheap amplifiers that keep the capability off. It's really annoying.

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The irony is, that NS CPU performance-wise is about equal to N1. Hence it must be the difference between 2.2 and 2.3. Or you have some funny background tasks on your N1.
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the 1ghz hummingbird is similar to the 1ghz snapdragon in the n1, however the GPU is many times faster... for anything that involves graphics, the GPU will help out immensely.

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In the current scenario , there's absolutely no reason to justify an upgrade . Gingerbread based ROMs will appear soon & I am absolutely clear in my mind that even honeycomb can be modified to run smoothly on our N1's albeit some overclocking might be necessary with higher versions of android.
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N1 performance-wise is still on the very top of the smartphones. Yes, the touch screen digitizer is not perfect and the GPU is not the quickest in the world, but for the OS itself it is pretty much a non issue.
If N1 is not powerful enough to run the honeycomb, then very little of todays phones are (in fact none). Instantly making all of them obsolete.
Of course it is entirely another thing if goog will want to invest into N1 development.

No intentions of upgrading until maybe this time next year. Right now it meets everyone of my needs. Still having fun with it. The flaws most folks point out generally either don't bother me or I don't notice them on a day to day use. The only phone I was torn on getting was a G2 even that was more because I had a G1 and loved that phone. I rode that one into the ground. 4-5 warranty trade outs. Still have it rooted running CM as a protable game system for my 3 year old son.
Every phone that has come out so far has been slightly better. When it is time to retire the N1 it will be for something 1-2 generations better than what's available now.

I've always said my nexus one is worthy of a permanent collection device since It's nicer than most phones. Besides I don't have any backup emergency device so I'm gonna keep it in case of emergency backup device.
Normally I sell my device after 6 months for 50% of what I paid and use that cash for my next device.

Nexus One, still worth it?

Hey guys,
need a bit help, well technically my friend does. hes on the market for a new phone and hes quite in love with my nexus one (im def not gonna sell it though! haha). The only concern is whether the nexus one is too old now. He loves the build quality of the nexus one but is worried if its money well spent. He found a mint tmo version for about 320, but at the same time hes wondering if he should just wait and jump to att to buy a atrix or even an iphone 4. So bias aside, is the nexus one still worthy of a 300+ price tag? honestly?
i know its googles baby but what if google does what apple did with their 1st gen iphone. what if 2.3 will be the last upgrade available before google end of lifes the n1.

honestly does your friend give two craps if the nexus one gets an update or not? prob not. anyway my frient recently asked me the same thing, he loved my nexus one and was gonna buy one. he ended up not gettting anything but he was about to do it and found one near him on craigslist and all.
i dont think its a bad idea, i still think its the best phone out there i cant find one i like better yet which is why i keep mine. great build, awesome looking, color trackball, where else can that be found?

I wouldn't sell my phone or recommend a Nexus One to a friend knowing that the power button would certainly fail and the touchscreen will give them issues.
For those reasons i couldn't recommend this phone to anybody!

I switched phones every month for a year, everything having some flaw. I've had this thing since June. No touchscreen issue, no power button issue. Pure Google, piece of art. Get it, keep it, love it.

I just bought my 2nd one (the At&t version). I first bought one on the first day they released the ATT version, but then I sold it to switch carriers. I've been back on ATT for about 6 months now and I've missed my N1, so I just ordered another one from eBay.
I've had the Captivate and the Surround and I still want my N1 back.
It should be here today

DirkGently1: if it was how you're saying, the N1 should have been dropped out the market long ago. I've got mine and got not a single problem (but the touch axis problem, which is not felt not playing on my phone).
I'd suggest the N1, because it doesn't cost like the Nexus S, but still is Google Experience. If only the Nexus S had been pumped up a little more, I'd think about it as my next phone, but dual cores are behind the corner, Nexus S will be overtaken very soon... but still I'd prefere a Nexus S 'cause it's GE.

The N1 is a great phone and I still love mine BUT if I were in the market for a new phone right now I would wait till the dual cores comes out which should be very soon.

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honestly does your friend give two craps if the nexus one gets an update or not?
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its not high on his list but he would prefer something that isn't going to be neglected on updates.
like you guys stated, the dual cores is what hes worried about. with it being so close around the corner, would it be smart investing in year old (while advanced, its still a year old) tech? he just loves the design and quality of the nexus one but hes not sure if that is worth sacrificing the processer and other upgrades in different departments.
im just stuck on whether i should encourage him getting this phone, which is no doubt awesome but old, or wait it out.

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its not high on his list but he would prefer something that isn't going to be neglected on updates.
like you guys stated, the dual cores is what hes worried about. with it being so close around the corner, would it be smart investing in year old (while advanced, its still a year old) tech? he just loves the design and quality of the nexus one but hes not sure if that is worth sacrificing the processer and other upgrades in different departments.
im just stuck on whether i should encourage him getting this phone, which is no doubt awesome but old, or wait it out.
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If he really likes the design and there's nothing else out there he wants, then I would say go for it for that price.
The way I look at it is if he can get a year out of it and be happy with it, then there will be better things out there a year from now anyway.

I've had my N1 since day-2 (had to wait for overnight shipping! ). It's more integrated into my life now, then when I first got it.
...But, I'm definitely starting to keep my eye out for the next thing. The N1 is already starting to show signs of being passed on from Google (ie the current delay on getting official Gingerbread to us!), whereas the Nexus S is the current poster-boy.
If your friend requires no-contract phone and ~$300 is his budget? Well, that's just about a no-brainer that the N1 is recommended.
Other than that, I'd tell them to hold until the Duals become a little more prevalent and then start looking... Who knows, maybe the Nexus Two with Dual-Core (get it, it's a Nexus TWO and it has TWO cores! ) will come out

I love my N1, but wouldn't pay $300 for it right now. It's nice to hear that the resale value is still up there (speaks volumes for HTC's build quality) but honestly, there are much better options out there right now.
If your friend is out of contract, he can pick up a G2 for free from T-Mobile with a 2-year contract. Other than the flimsy keyboard hinge, it beats the Nexus One in almost every category spec-wise. If you're worried about updates - G2 is just as unlockable and rootable as N1, with support from custom ROMs nowhere near stopping.
If your friend doesn't want a carrier-subsidized phone, then his best bet would be waiting a few months until the next generation of dual-core handsets start showing up en masse. Yes, they will be almost twice the price of a used N1 at that point, but that would be money well spent.

Dual cores are fine and dandy, but I would not jump on the first available models.
Nobody knows how is the battery usage or is there are any other esotheric bugs introduced by the new SMP platform.

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Dual cores are fine and dandy, but I would not jump on the first available models.
Nobody knows how is the battery usage or is there are any other esotheric bugs introduced by the new SMP platform.
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Good point. It's always a good idea to wait until the early adopters report in with issues. Power savings of dual-core processors is a fact on laptops and nettops, but yet remains to be proven on the mobile chip architectures. It's good to see manufacturers shipping larger batteries too (1930 mAh on Atrix), but only time will tell.

I bought a N1 right when it came out and loved it, then I got an hd2 and its the best phone I've ever had period, but the nexus one is definitely one amazing phone

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Good point. It's always a good idea to wait until the early adopters report in with issues. Power savings of dual-core processors is a fact on laptops and nettops, but yet remains to be proven on the mobile chip architectures. It's good to see manufacturers shipping larger batteries too (1930 mAh on Atrix), but only time will tell.
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Well, there is a concept of saving power by going multi-core and undervoting/underclocking at the same time. In theory you get more mips per watt.
But it has several relatively major ifs and buts.
First, you need to have something significant to process. The smartphone apps ten to be quite lean on processing anyway. Nobody uses their phones for prolonged number crunching sessions, the processing demand comes in short "spikes".
Second, those spikes should be parallelizable. Which is far from granted.
Third, you need to save more power than you burn on second chip. It is not only CPU itself, but also all this common glue logic around it which gets more complicated than in single core case.
Which altogether does not look like a sure deal to me. It can easily happen, that such dualcore device will greatly improve on video decoding battery life, but get even more miserable than usual standby times. Huge Attrix battery somehow does not look like a good sign to me.
In my opinion the hottest candidate for the second core would be a garbage collector. Which (if properly implemented) could dramatically improve the overall "smoothness" of the phone.
But something similar to the hyperthreading would do the trick too.

As of N1: I bought it when my Magic was starting going slooooow on recent versions of Android. My Nexus One is still highly responsive, and this is what I personally need for my daily usage. And I love to program tools on it: the screen is not small nor too big, it's just "perfect".

I think it depends on what you really want. In fact, I also thought the price of N1 is a little expense. But I still bought it since I really like it, no matter the appearance or the hardware configuration. For me, it's not too old, but your friend need make the decision by himself~~~

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There is another feature of these new dual-core chips, is that one of the cores can be toggled on demand. No sense in burning both cores if you're just checking e-mail or syncing calendars/social statuses, but a resource-hungry media app or a 3D game for example would spin up that 2nd core.
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Huge Attrix battery somehow does not look like a good sign to me.
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I'm feeling the exact opposite. Manufacturers are starting to realize that people actually use their phones for longer periods of time, and no matter how power-efficient you make them, a larger battery is always a good idea.

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I love my N1, but wouldn't pay $300 for it right now. It's nice to hear that the resale value is still up there (speaks volumes for HTC's build quality) but honestly, there are much better options out there right now.
If your friend is out of contract, he can pick up a G2 for free from T-Mobile with a 2-year contract. Other than the flimsy keyboard hinge, it beats the Nexus One in almost every category spec-wise. If you're worried about updates - G2 is just as unlockable and rootable as N1, with support from custom ROMs nowhere near stopping.
If your friend doesn't want a carrier-subsidized phone, then his best bet would be waiting a few months until the next generation of dual-core handsets start showing up en masse. Yes, they will be almost twice the price of a used N1 at that point, but that would be money well spent.
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i dunno nexus vs g2 i take the nexus still, g2 is bulky and laggy compared to N1 plus with tzones/web2go its a no brainer... N1 son!

Bought the desire hd a few months back but still im on my n1... dhd cant match the speed n pure google experience... luv the n1 sooo much i'll go so far as to say its the best phone i have ever owned...

All the new phones announced yet I still want the Nexus S.

After CES and MWC seeing new phones being announced. Like for example the Motorola Atrix and The new Galaxy S II. I would still want to get the Nexus S probably because of the stock android. Is this normal, are there any other people that feel the same way as I do?

Alopez_45 said:
After CES and MWC seeing new phones being announced. Like for example the Motorola Atrix and The new Galaxy S II. I would still want to get the Nexus S probably because of the stock android. Is this normal, are there any other people that feel the same way as I do?
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I watched all of CES and I've been following MWC a bit more loosely but not a single one of them makes me want to give up my Nexus S. If you could keep my SNS I'd love to have an HTC Pyramid on top of it but just for poops and giggles. The SNS is the best phone I've owned and I love it.

I feel the same way as you do, but you can also run stock on a Galaxy S II or Motorola Atrix, with Custom ROMs. Of course, it won't be the same as with the Nexus S.
I just like the Nexus s as a whole. What I mean to say with that is that stock Android and updates from Google isn't the only thing I like about the Nexus.

I feel the same. I haven't seen anything that I would want instead of my Nexus S. Vanilla Android beats all

I feel the same..

while i like direct upgrades from Google in the SNS
i really like the hardware codec support for all the media files from the SGS2, and the dual core, and 1GB RAM, and the larger 1650mAh battery, and the 8 mpix camera with the flash, and the microSD support, and NFC, and BT3.0, and...
it's a really hard decision to make, forfeit direct upgrades to get all the goodies vs. keep direct upgrades, and have no goodies
the moment of truth will come when the AWS t-mobile model 1700+2100 hit the runway then i'll let me greed decide

None of these new phones are appealing to me at all.
I'll only buy into the Nexus brand from now on. This phone has been everything I've ever wanted from an Android device.

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while i like direct upgrades from Google in the SNS
i really like the hardware codec support for all the media files from the SGS2, and the dual core, and 1GB RAM, and the larger 1650mAh battery, and the 8 mpix camera with the flash, and the microSD support, and NFC, and BT3.0, and...
it's a really hard decision to make, forfeit direct upgrades to get all the goodies vs. keep direct upgrades, and have no goodies
the moment of truth will come when the AWS t-mobile model 1700+2100 hit the runway then i'll let me greed decide
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and super amoled+. I'm looking forward to a 4" variant, if they make one.

Love my Nexus S. The hardware, the fact that is supported straight from Google, everything about it.
I'm not saying i'm not curious about the new dual core devices, but think about that for a minute: our single core phones go through a day - day and half with a 1540mA battery. Imagine the talk/standby time of those new phones with only 1650 and 1900 mA batteries. When sth just comes out, usually needs work. Like Win7, dual core phones, the android when it ws first launched.
So, i think i'm gonna wait a while before trying a new device.
Google Nexus S rules...

For the most part, I agree. There's nothing so appealing to make me want to ditch my current Nexus S, however, understand what "stock Android" means.
Yes, you get the latest Google updates, and you get the unhampered Android experience, but just be aware that Android is riddled with glitches ranging from minor annoyances to some pretty major issues. (Just to name a few off my head: keyboard issues, home screen icon and swiping issues, gallery issues, rebooting issues, SMS and MMS issues...)
As long as you understand that being on the Nexus line means you're essentially the "beta tester" for Google's Android iterations, then you shouldn't be disappointed. I'm just sharing my personal experience. I found many things critical about the Android experience on previous phones, but always had OEM skins to blame. On the NS, that excuse is invalid.

I too am fairly disappointed with all of the new phones (including the NS to an extent).
Atrix = Plastic, and has Moto's locked down bootloader (major negative, and if it wasn't so locked down, I may have made an exception for its cheaper build quality).
Inspire 4G = Nothing too impressive, still has HTCs horrible mic and speaker quality and probably a ****ty digitizer/touch screen.
HTCs entire new lineup: No dual core? No gingerbread for the Incredible? Minimal upgrades at best.
SGSII = Plastic.
Nexus S = Plastic.
I may be old fashioned, but can anyone other than HTC make a $600+ Android phone that isn't plastic? Or what? Combine HTCs metal build, Moto's excellent speaker quality, Samsung's sensitive touchscreen, and then tack on the true Google experience -- and there you have it, the perfect Android device.
Until then, the iPhone still has an edge over Android with their polished build quality. I'm probably going to get attacked with fanboi'ism (even though I've owned 3 Android devices in the last 2 years), but whatever... it's true... There always seems to be trade offs with Android devices, whether it's build, or OS fragmentation - it drives me crazy.
I'm going to be picking up an Android fun to bum around with, and it's most likely going to be the Nexus S when and if it arrives to Rogers, just because it's the next iteration of the Nexus One. I'll put up with the cheap build quality (I'll try really hard not to drop it) and call it a day.

Ill stay with my Nexy Sexy

DigitaL BlisS said:
Combine HTCs metal build, Moto's excellent speaker quality, Samsung's sensitive touchscreen, and then tack on the true Google experience -- and there you have it, the perfect Android device.
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I 100% completely agree in that point
why it is so hard for all the manufacture to put all the best stuff together and make a perfect phone?
seems like every manufacture only specializes in 1 thing, but not the rest of the phone.
personally i wanted a phone for work and fun, so the Nexus S fit the profile, just a bit disappointing in the reception area, and speaker, it serves better as a PDA than a phone
for my girl i got her a Moto because it's radio and speaker perfect, it will always get a signal, it was designed as a phone, and it works as a phone

I must say I regret dropping $600 on this phone at the eve of dual-cores. It is not that the Nexus S is "bad"; sure 2.3 isn't 100% bug-free but the phone itself is great. I just find it really dumb of me to purchase a phone with single core when dual-cores are right around the corner.
P.S. Atrix might have a lot of things going for it, but the most major innovation I find in the Atrix is the huge battery and great battery life, without sacrificing phone size (in regards to thickness).

I'm sold on the idea of a google backed phone. Now I just need to save up for one of these and find a way out of my contract with sprint. I am just tired of the run around with updates between carrier/mfg. I think I am over the need for having the latest and greatest and can settle down with one device for a while until the newest nexus comes around. A small trade off in my opinion as I will still have the latest OS and support from great devs and plenty of time to save for the next one. Last plus for me is being able to get on a month to month service and no more contracts. I'm on my way over guys, just saving up some cash then its on ;-)
sent by an Epic4g through the cosmos

Have you seen the LG Optimus 2X reviews? Force closes and crashes left and right... talk about half baked.
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I must say I regret dropping $600 on this phone at the eve of dual-cores. It is not that the Nexus S is "bad"; sure 2.3 isn't 100% bug-free but the phone itself is great. I just find it really dumb of me to purchase a phone with single core when dual-cores are right around the corner.
P.S. Atrix might have a lot of things going for it, but the most major innovation I find in the Atrix is the huge battery and great battery life, without sacrificing phone size (in regards to thickness).
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So far none of these new phones make me want to give up my NS either.
Atrix - locked bootloader
SGS2 - too big, not a fan of the design - I want a search button!
LG 2x - its an LG lol
I may change my mind once I get to play with these phones

Alopez_45 said:
After CES and MWC seeing new phones being announced. Like for example the Motorola Atrix and The new Galaxy S II. I would still want to get the Nexus S probably because of the stock android. Is this normal, are there any other people that feel the same way as I do?
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+1
I have a Nexus S and it's awesome. Stock Android is the only way to go.

I'm not gonna lie. I'm still thinking of getting one, even with all the phones on the horizon. My upgrade from T-Mobile isn't until July. Tax return is burning a hole in my pocket... If only they had a car dock like the Nexus One...

DarkAgent said:
I must say I regret dropping $600 on this phone at the eve of dual-cores. It is not that the Nexus S is "bad"; sure 2.3 isn't 100% bug-free but the phone itself is great. I just find it really dumb of me to purchase a phone with single core when dual-cores are right around the corner.
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Would it be dumb to get a dual core phone with QUAD CORE phones right around the corner?
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Nexus S Win, Moto Atrix Fail;)

I would say about 80 percent of Atrix users I have spoke to are unhappy with there purchase. With mumblings of shoddy software and no real time speed increases, its fair to assume this device is a bit of a fail. Just go over to the marketplace and see the large second hand market for Atrix's, after just one month on sale.
So glad I have my Nexus S
The Atrix I fear is one of the nails in motorola's coffin.
Google rules
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lol.. any chance you read the benchmark comparisons between LG Optimus 2X vs. Atrix? not that benchmarks mean anything but it was interesting to see the difference between those two phones.
Next up versus the Nexus S. T-Mobile G2x, it actually seems like a good competitor on paper. Since its reportedly supposed to be running on stock Android. But I'll most likely wait until a quad-core Nexus phone comes out since Quad cores are rumored to be done by later this year.

These devices I feel are making a bad name for android. People who got the atrix as their first android phone, would probably think that android is laggy even with dual core processor. I wish Google would have went the 'apple route' and control both hardware and software instead of letting these manufacturers put crap on android.

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lol.. any chance you read the benchmark comparisons between LG Optimus 2X vs. Atrix? not that benchmarks mean anything but it was interesting to see the difference between those two phones.
Next up versus the Nexus S. T-Mobile G2x, it actually seems like a good competitor on paper. Since its reportedly supposed to be running on stock Android. But I'll most likely wait until a quad-core Nexus phone comes out since Quad cores are rumored to be done by later this year.
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Quad core hummingbird and snapdragon's would be class, but as with everything we will have to wait for the software to catch up with the hardware
Motorola really make some crap phones though, and the crapness emanates from Motoblur, it basically makes apps incompatible,
What a great skin Full marks Moto
JD
Sent from my Google Nexus Magic Wand S

Agree with Mokurex anyone use this device will hate Android
I think Google should force phones manufactures to install a stock
Android over there phones (controlled by Google).
Then they could put there software in the market
and make it connected with the phone serial number.
That will make all phones up to date also will give the consumer
the right to chose wither to install these apps or not
I tried many Android phones from HTC, MOTO and SAMSUNG
I found Nexus S the fastest, cleanest and most beautiful phone

abo.saud said:
Agree with Mokurex anyone use this device will hate Android
I think Google should force phones manufactures to install a stock
Android over there phones (controlled by Google).
Then they could put there software in the market
and make it connected with the phone serial number.
That will make all phones up to date also will give the consumer
the right to chose wither to install these apps or not
I tried many Android phones from HTC, MOTO and SAMSUNG
I found Nexus S the fastest, cleanest and most beautiful phone
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Android is Open Source, they couldn't reinforce those ideas if they wanted to because Android from the very beginning was established to be opened to any company.
And honestly, too many of you are thinking as a enthusiastic user. Why exactly do you think these manufacturers don't care so much about upgrading their phones to the latest Android version? The average user is the large % of their sales. The average user doesn't look at Android the way we do. They don't even know about Froyo or Gingerbread. They just use a phone as a phone.
Nexus S is definitely a great device. And I'm not looking back. From this point onward (since Nexus S), I decided that I'm only getting Nexus based devices. Anything other than that, I'm not interested.

I happen to have an Atrix and Nexus S in front of me right now... been testing them together for a few days. The Nexus S has been my main daily driver and the Atrix just accompanies to see how well it stacks up. Bottom line... the Atrix is going back, nexus S staying for a while longer for now.
It's just another classical case of good hardware, horrible software implementation, similar to how Nokia was going with S60. Nothing is optimized for the dual core, the Nexus S is faster at almost every task, even flash playback in the browser which is surprising, because the hummingbird chipsets are known to suck at browsing compared to snapdragons. Also, the Atrix has a terrible case of color banding... if you thought the SAMOLEDs were bad, the Atrix just doesn't use its 24bit panel at all. Again, poor software. The camera is much better, and the battery is significantly better, but all the software and bloatware just takes away from the experience so much.
If you have anything you guys want me to compare between the two let me know before I return it =)

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Android is Open Source, they couldn't reinforce those ideas if they wanted to because Android from the very beginning was established to be opened to any company.
And honestly, too many of you are thinking as a enthusiastic user. Why exactly do you think these manufacturers don't care so much about upgrading their phones to the latest Android version? The average user is the large % of their sales. The average user doesn't look at Android the way we do. They don't even know about Froyo or Gingerbread. They just use a phone as a phone.
Nexus S is definitely a great device. And I'm not looking back. From this point onward (since Nexus S), I decided that I'm only getting Nexus based devices. Anything other than that, I'm not interested.
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Only Google phone's for me too from now on. And I don't think I could consider another HTC phone without AMOLED as minimum screen spec... This is why samsung have a hold of the market, the screens are fantastic
JD
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JupiterDroid said:
Only Google phone's for me too from now on. And I don't think I could consider another HTC phone without AMOLED as minimum screen spec... This is why samsung have a hold of the market, the screens are fantastic
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correction: Super AMOLED i wonder what Super AMOLED Plus looks like, but yeah i totally agree about Samsung. I don't get whats the hatred towards Samsung, they have no control over the Nexus S.
Sure, people criticize about the plastic back. I wish it was aluminium myself, but believe me. This phone is not CHEAPLY made at all, it's solidly constructed.
There's no such thing as a perfect phone. But the Nexus S is pretty damn close to perfect. If it had 720p and SD card, it'd be perfect without question. 4G on top of that, it's a dream phone. But I don't really care about 4G

I have Q could Nexus s get 720p thru a future update?

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I have Q could Nexus s get 720p thru a future update?
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No its a hardware limitation. It could get hacked by CyanogenMod team and 720p could be added but it wouldn't be "true" 720p if you know what I mean.

Motorola sux
Sent from my Nexus S

Torn between these two phones, was going to pick up an Atrix the other day but then found out Nexus S is coming to all Canadian carriers according to Samsung.
Love the Nexus but really hate the fact it's only 16GB with no SD card. If it was 32GB I could handle it. Missing 720p sucks too.
How likely is it that Motorola would either fix Motoblur or ditch it when they release the Atrix Gingerbread update this year? or at least unlock the bootloader so you can run a stock version of Gingerbread if you choose?
If I was confident that I could run stock versions of Android on the Atrix, my decision would be easy.

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How likely is it that Motorola would either fix Motoblur or ditch it when they release the Atrix Gingerbread update this year? or at least unlock the bootloader so you can run a stock version of Gingerbread if you choose?
If I was confident that I could run stock versions of Android on the Atrix, my decision would be easy.
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Well that's pretty easy to answer. The probability of that happening is zero. Motorola locks the bootloader on all their phones and it's up to people here to hack it. It only really slows them down, but still it's annoying. Also, gingerbread will be a while away I'm guessing, let alone Ice Cream.
Just look at the entire history of Motorola android phones and see which ones actually have an AOSP ROM out (cyanogen)... the answer is only one, the original Droid/Milestone from 2009. If you want customization, HTC and Samsung phones seem to get more ROMs. You may think that Motorola doesn't want custom ROMs because they polish their blur UI but it's quite the opposite with my Atrix experience. Everything, I mean virtually EVERYTHING is half-assed on the phone. Terrible color banding, random reboots, tons and tons of bloatware that conflict with each other and drain the battery (which is why you see battery complaints despite having a 1930mah battery).

thanks, making my decision easier. I'm a noob to android, switching over from my piece of crap iphone (jailbroken, themed, etc) so I'm hoping to learn from anybody's experience with these phones.
The nexus will probably make me happier, but I love the hardware profile of the Atrix. Damn I just want an Atrix running a clean version of Gingerbread.

Don't get me wrong, the Atrix is still a great phone. If you're stuck between an iPhone, Atrix, or Nexus S, no matter what you'll end up with a powerful phone. I have no doubt the Atrix will be a smooth machine in the hands of an experienced Android user who knows what apps to freeze, etc., but there are some things that just can't be fixed until Motorola decides to fix them for us such as the color banding, capped upload speeds, multitouch bugs, etc. Yea it has a Tegra 2, but the GPU is actually not even better than the Nexus S/Galaxy S GPU. I've played a bunch of Tegra games and they don't look any better than games that are on the iPhone (which has a slower GPU than the Nexus S). Sure, Tegra zone will help the gaming market pick up for android by enforcing a standard, but it's still a crappy standard for coming out a year later.
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thanks, making my decision easier. I'm a noob to android, switching over from my piece of crap iphone (jailbroken, themed, etc) so I'm hoping to learn from anybody's experience with these phones.
The nexus will probably make me happier, but I love the hardware profile of the Atrix. Damn I just want an Atrix running a clean version of Gingerbread.
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I would say about 80 percent of Atrix users I have spoke to are unhappy with there purchase. With mumblings of shoddy software and no real time speed increases, its fair to assume this device is a bit of a fail. Just go over to the marketplace and see the large second hand market for Atrix's, after just one month on sale.
So glad I have my Nexus S
The Atrix I fear is one of the nails in motorola's coffin.
Google rules
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i actually posted my Nexus Vs Atrix on the Atrix forum
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=992512
over all. the new problems with atrix makes it abit of fail device now in my eyes
- Locked bootloader. and it doesnt seem its going to be unlocked anytime soon. even the new HTC is locked. i believe from now on all the phones will be locked. which makes the Nexus Line is the only available option for the people like us who like to tweak his phone. whatever optimus 2x or galaxy S2 or Evo 3d will be unlocked is different story. but for now. the best safe bet go with Nexus line.
- only 2 fingers for multi touch + it stops working after you holding it for 12 seconds. like say you are playing racing games, and you are pressing the screen to throttle, while the other finger to move your car, after 12 seconds both touches will stop responding and the screen will act fuzzy for like 4 to 5 seconds before it gets its act together. whatever that is hardware problem or software problem. its a total fail for gaming on that device no matter how powerful its.
and even if its a software issue, knowing motorolla. atrix owners will be glad if they get it fixed by the end of the year. + locked bootloader so devs to try and fix it them selves is out of the window. makes the atrix a complete fail in my eyes.
- the screen is ****. i am sorry but if i can see pixels on both screens. why would i go with less colors ? sure the pixels density are more in atrix. but i still see the pixels. and the colors are not nice as SA. why would i go back step ?
honestly. between atrix and Nexus S. the Nexus S wins hands down. and this coming from an iphone owner who used atrix for couple of days and use the nexus S almost every day since its with my young brother
but i dont agree that this is a nail in the coffin for motorolla. this company is so huge to be effected by couple of flips of phones. and even then. the moto sold very well. the hype alone sold the phone. sure many didnt like it. but for moto, they sold good enough so thats not a flop for them.

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I fear these locked bootloaders have been brought in after what happened with the g2 and HD line. So many people bricked their phones using the early complicated method to root and get Eng S-off. I know for a fact T-Mobile USA replaced every handset without questioning or checking for the actual cause. I think when these phones eventually got back to HTC they saw there was only one future option, leave all phones unlocked, or lock down the phones completely. They seem to have chosen the second route. I personally would not buy a phone I could not root as this was the main reason for me to ditch the iphone. I'm a firm believer that if you purchase a phone you should be able to do what the hell you like with it. I would pefer that all phones come with an oem bootloader unlock but If activated generates a limited warranty to just hardware faults. I think OEM's just need to use some common sense when replacing handsets, people that brick their phones through lack of knowledge or stupidity should face the consequences.
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actually, there is a more " easy " reason why they decided to lock it down.
they really dont want people to keep their phone. they want people to change at least once a year. which is why they are offering more than 1 device per year.
if you have unlocked bootloader. then you will update your software without needing HTC or Samsung or any other company for that matters. and it will prevent a possible future sale of their new offering. its a business move.
which is why i like apple in this regard. 1 phone per year. smart move. keep the customers loyal to you. dont screw them up by releasing a newer better device than yours every 3 months or 4.
there is a reason why apple is leading. too bad all other companies are that stupid :/
as for the andriod, i think from now on all companies will use a locked bootloader. locked karnel. the only way to go is the nexus line i assume if you are looking for open Dev mobile. and i highly doubt Samsung or LG will let their new high end phones like optimus 2x, optimus 3G or galaxy S2 to be without a signed bootloader.

ll_l_x_l_ll said:
i actually posted my Nexus Vs Atrix on the Atrix forum
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=992512
over all. the new problems with atrix makes it abit of fail device now in my eyes
- Locked bootloader. and it doesnt seem its going to be unlocked anytime soon. even the new HTC is locked. i believe from now on all the phones will be locked. which makes the Nexus Line is the only available option for the people like us who like to tweak his phone. whatever optimus 2x or galaxy S2 or Evo 3d will be unlocked is different story. but for now. the best safe bet go with Nexus line.
- only 2 fingers for multi touch + it stops working after you holding it for 12 seconds. like say you are playing racing games, and you are pressing the screen to throttle, while the other finger to move your car, after 12 seconds both touches will stop responding and the screen will act fuzzy for like 4 to 5 seconds before it gets its act together. whatever that is hardware problem or software problem. its a total fail for gaming on that device no matter how powerful its.
and even if its a software issue, knowing motorolla. atrix owners will be glad if they get it fixed by the end of the year. + locked bootloader so devs to try and fix it them selves is out of the window. makes the atrix a complete fail in my eyes.
- the screen is ****. i am sorry but if i can see pixels on both screens. why would i go with less colors ? sure the pixels density are more in atrix. but i still see the pixels. and the colors are not nice as SA. why would i go back step ?
honestly. between atrix and Nexus S. the Nexus S wins hands down. and this coming from an iphone owner who used atrix for couple of days and use the nexus S almost every day since its with my young brother
but i dont agree that this is a nail in the coffin for motorolla. this company is so huge to be effected by couple of flips of phones. and even then. the moto sold very well. the hype alone sold the phone. sure many didnt like it. but for moto, they sold good enough so thats not a flop for them.
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I picked up an unlocked Atrix from Bell Canada (while I was there skiing) last week and put a long side my Nexus S, I actually prefer the Atrix - and I'll explain why.
I'm not one who cares about unlocking bootloaders. Not everyone wants to mod their phones. My Nexus S is still locked. BTW, the Atrix bootloader has been cracked (http://www.androidcentral.com/has-motorolas-bootloader-encryption-been-cracked) but you already knew that didnt you??
The Atrix is running Android 2.2 which accounts for a little lag and reduced dual core speed. Once it gets the latest version of Gingerbread - which has full multi CPU support, the phone will be a whole lot different. Having dual cores in the long run will at least keep the Atrix up there with the best for at least 6-7 months, as opposed to the Nexus S which is technically already outdated and old tech (actually it was already old tech 1-2 months prior to its release lol).
I actually like the screen on the Atrix and I rate it better than the Nexus S SAMOLED - especially outside. Sure the SAMOLED has deep blacks and rich colours, but I still cant see the ****er in direct sunlight. For me, this is a complete fail.
The finger print scanner is unique and reliable. Its good to know that my phone is locked down, especially if it is stolen or I loose it.
The build quality on mine is superb. I can't fault it to be honest.
The Atrix has gorilla glass (thank God), as opposed to a rubbish glass screen with a pathetic oleophobic coating that rubs off after 2 weeks of use (I'm on my 3rd Nexus S because of this **** BTW - and the screen scratches so easily even when its in my empty jeans pocket..... )
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The only advantages of having the Nexus S is that it will get the latest Android updates and you unlock the bootloader to flash what ever rom/kernel (whatever) you want...
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I'm not here to bash the Nexus S, just sharing my opinions. I just wish Google stuck with HTC for the Nexus S, rather than going cheap with Samsung. HTC make a far better quality handset for sure. The plasticky build of the Nexus S is a real let down.
I also think Motorola has turned over a new leaf with the Atrix. They've gone in all guns blazing with a laptop dock and loads of accessories like HDMI desktop docks, etc as well. I do not think they intend to let this handset die off into the sunset without software updates. If they did this with the Atrix, they will kill themselves just like Sony Ericsson did with the X10 line. I will never ever ever ever never ever touch another Sony Ericsson handset for the rest of my life.

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