I finally tossed my old wifi router and got a shiny "new" Linksys E2000 and have it set up pretty much as stock. B/G/N, a few ports open, WPA2 Personal security, etc. Nothing special except that, of course, the Focus won't connect to it. I had to ask a neighbor if I could use his wifi so it would stop whining about email. How many more months until this "phone" can do something useful? Tell you what, how about if I mail a piece of it to Microsoft every month they don't have an update for it and attached to each mangled piece I attach a note that reads "You"? Think they'd get the point then instead of combing their hair around it? I'd just sell it on ebay except what do you get for a Focus these days? $30 if you throw in the sim card? Still might be worth not having to look at the thing every day, tho. Never again, Microsoft. WP7 is as dead a WM....well, no, I can connect my Fuze to the damn wifi.
Linksys routers, especially the new E series, are notoriously buggy. My Focus connects to two of my 11n routers just fine (one TrendNet, one NetGear). So, it looks like it is the problem with your shiny new router.
I concur. I've connected my Focus to dozens of hotspots without issue.
On the other hand, I've had problems and complaints about 100% of Linksys routers that are owned by clients (granted, they call me when they have problems) and two Linksys routers that I managed myself.
I would never recommend Linksys, and will never own another. I have and will recommend the Samsung Focus, however, and will own another Windows Phone.
(For the record, I own a Buffalo router running http://www.dd-wrt.com)
Ever since Cisco takes over Linksys, its Linksys brand getting worse and worse. Not only the initial release firmwares are always buggy, Cisco also deliberately remove features that are common on other brands of consumer routers so that it does not eat into its Cisco commerical grade router business. Most common compliants I read is that WOL packets do not work on Linksys routers and switches after a device entering sleep for a while.
I have a Linksys E2000 and mine works great. I was loyal to the D-Link brand, but their recent routers have had too much trouble. I was resetting my router at least once a week.
I will admit, it seems to be hit or miss with any brand of router. Just go to Newegg.com and you'll see hundreds of reviews both positive and negative for any brand router. Why can't they just make something that works?
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Linksys routers, especially the new E series, are notoriously buggy. My Focus connects to two of my 11n routers just fine (one TrendNet, one NetGear). So, it looks like it is the problem with your shiny new router.
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I kind of doubt that. Every other device I own works just fine. Bridges, iPhone, iPad, Galaxy Tab, 3 laptops, 2 netbooks, other people's equipment....everything that anyone has tried to connect does so and very quickly. Just like at work where there are literally dozens and dozens of devices connected and what won't connect? Why the Focus, of course! Actually, the E2000 is an excellent router and it gets very good reviews nor have I ever had a problem with a Linksys in a whole lot of years of using them. No, I tend to think the Focus is the junk here.
I am sorry my friend but it is not the Focus phone in "general" You must have a faulty device and should take it back to the store to return it or get fixed. There are so few complaints about Focus devices connecting to routers. I have never had a single problem and I have connected to dozens of routers all of different brands and models.
I would definitely take the focus back to the store, if you bought it from an ATT store, at least I hope you did and didnt get it from some other source as you are probably screwed.
I have been so pleased with my Focus, granted all of the setbacks with updates and short comings.
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I have found people with issues connecting their Android & iOS devices to this router as well. The Android post I read suggested using WPA2 (AES) on the router. A iOS person suggested taking wireless settings off auto and actually selecting a channel such as 11 as well as selecting B & G or G & N instead of auto to fix connection issues.
My personal experience with Cisco Linksys routers in the past has been mixed mode can be flaky. When I set the router to G only or N only (use only if all your devices support N) everything runs smoothly.
yup it must be the router, back home my Focus failed to lock onto my Linksys WAG200 gateway if my Laptop was already connected to it. So I had to turn off the wifi on my laptop and let Focus connect to it first and then let my Laptop also connect. Strange
Set your router to g only
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I just wanted to post my suggestion and tag it for future searches.
I have always had trouble using WiFi and phones, my house is kind of spread out and it takes multiple routers to cover the whole thing. I'll explain how I did it in a moment. I just went over to a buddies house and he had an old Belkin and our G1's really couldn't keep a reliable connection. I spent about 30 minutes loading DD-WRT on his router and reconfiguring it and man, what a world of difference. I figured I would share my method with this community as the DD-WRT software seems to have excellent compatibility with our G1's.
I have my 4 routers flashed with DD-WRT and set up for WDS (Wireless Distribution System) w/ WPA2-PSK. The network is completely transparent, I never ever loose signal. Anytime I walk through the house and out back (even my girlfriend and parents with their UMA phones) the routers perform the handoffs without the device ever knowing.
Also, here's the most important part for me about DD-WRT, it has a "Bluetooth Compatibility Mode." I'm not sure what it does, I think it just prevents certain bands from being operated on (since both radios are ~ 2.4 Ghz) BUT IT WORKS. My phones get just as good a range as my laptops.
So, if you have routers that like to misbehave and are useless to your G1, you should check out the link below to see if you device is supported. That's my .02
http://www.dd-wrt.com/wiki/index.php/Supported_Devices
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I just wanted to post my suggestion and tag it for future searches.
I have always had trouble using WiFi and phones, my house is kind of spread out and it takes multiple routers to cover the whole thing. I'll explain how I did it in a moment. I just went over to a buddies house and he had an old Belkin and our G1's really couldn't keep a reliable connection. I spent about 30 minutes loading DD-WRT on his router and reconfiguring it and man, what a world of difference. I figured I would share my method with this community as the DD-WRT software seems to have excellent compatibility with our G1's.
I have my 4 routers flashed with DD-WRT and set up for WDS (Wireless Distribution System) w/ WPA2-PSK. The network is completely transparent, I never ever loose signal. Anytime I walk through the house and out back (even my girlfriend and parents with their UMA phones) the routers perform the handoffs without the device ever knowing.
Also, here's the most important part for me about DD-WRT, it has a "Bluetooth Compatibility Mode." I'm not sure what it does, I think it just prevents certain bands from being operated on (since both radios are ~ 2.4 Ghz) BUT IT WORKS. My phones get just as good a range as my laptops.
So, if you have routers that like to misbehave and are useless to your G1, you should check out the link below to see if you device is supported. That's my .02
http://www.dd-wrt.com/wiki/index.php/Supported_Devices
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I agree DD-WRT is compatible with a lot of devices. I would suggest getting your hands on the Linksys WRT54GL this was special made for people who wanted to do this.
I gotta know if anyone else is having the same problems connecting to wifi as I am. Whenever I try to connect to my wireless network with any of my devices, it's sporadic. Sometimes it'll connect right away. Most of the time, it takes two or three minutes (!) and sometimes it'll puke on itself and say it doesn't see the network.
In the latter two cases, I can delete the profile for the network and power-cycle the device and it'll connect to the network almost immediately. As you might guess, this is an annoying process to go through.
It never really bothered me until my wife got an iPhone and it connected immediately to the network and does so EVERY TIME SHE USES IT!
Can anyone help me out? Why do these devices take so darn long to connect?
This is the second router I've used (first was a Linksys, currently I'm using a Trendnet), the Raphael (Fuze) and Tornado (SDA) are running their stock ROMs. The Wizard (MDA), I've gone a little flash-happy on, but I've encountered the same problem with all ROMs I've tried.
I'll admit I haven't checked what channels neighboring wifi networks are using (I'm pretty sure I'm the only one on my channel), but when I first got my Tornado and Wizard, mine was the only network (visible) and I was still having problems. And regardless, is the wifi radio in the iPhone that much better than my HTC devices?
(Just a side note, I have three wireless laptops that are all able to connect to the router without a hitch, adding to my belief that my network is on its own channel.)
Just wanted to update everyone that, last night, I checked the wireless networks I could see from my house and none share the same channel as mine, however I didn't take overlap into consideration. The lack of response to this thread would suggest to me I'm the only one encountering this type of problem, so I'll do some experimenting in an area with no other wireless activity and see if connecting is still slow.
O.K. I tested the Wizard and Raphael with a router in an area with no other wireless activity and discovered the following:
If the devices are set for DHCP, it takes a long time to connect. However, they did connect and remain connected without any problems.
If the devices have static IP addresses, they connect immediately and remain connected without any problems.
Conclusion:
The DHCP discovery on these devices takes too darn long to acquire addresses. That, and the slightest bit of EM noise can cause them to crap out. Since I don't have problems with other wireless devices (laptops, iPhone), I'm left with the assumption that either the radio is poor quality (unlikely) or the driver needs some serious fixing (most likely).
When and if the noble developers of this board get linux up and running on the Raphael, I'll be more than happy to test it out.
Since this thread was self-answering and would seem to be of little value, please feel free to delete it, moderators.
This issue has been posted several times. I have searched most threads but didnt get right answer. I have a Samsung Galaxy S2 and Google nexus 7. I could connect both at home and at work to wifi and then to network. But for the last 1 week I am unable to connect to internet at home. There isnt such problem with laptop and Ipad at home. I had this problem with my galaxy s2 in the past, when it was only android device at home. I didnt give much attention at that time as it used to sort itself on its own. I mean to say though the network connectivity behaviour is erratic it didnt bother me much as I have other devices to use to connect to internet. I am posting this now to highlight this problem with android and some great soul will sort this out forever. I dont think it is a problem with router as this happened to several people with different brands of routers. As suggested by somebody, I have tried the Wifi fixer app, with no success. My galaxy S2 is not modified, but nexus 7 is rooted.
I had the same problem. I fixed it by setting my router to only do B/G instead of B/G/N. This means I can only get max 54kps, but so what. I was only getting a bit better than that before.
Hope this helps!
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I dont think it is a problem with router as this happened to several people with different brands of routers.
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It takes two to Tango.
I had the symptom you describe on a 3 year old Android phone, while with the same router, no problem with Macs, Windows PCs, and iPod Touch devices. The Android phone could associate and authenticate ("connect") to the router, but it would never get an IP address via DHCP.
What was the solution? I updated (flashed) new firmware to the router.
Interop problems happen all the time with WiFi gear; it's unfortunate but true. I mention the above example because the symptoms seemed to point to the Android device as being the "trouble", and yet the fix involved changing software on the router side of things. And that's entirely the point - when bugs occur, they occur between TWO software stacks. Router firmware can have "latent" bugs that require client devices to deviate just a little bit before they occur, and the same thing is also true with the software stack on the Android device.
In general, you have more knobs to fiddle with on the router than you will have on the Android phone/tablet, and the more variable the behavior of the router is, the more likely bug expression between the two software/hardware stacks becomes. So - as with the suggestion of the above respondent - if you want to experiment, try turning off non-essential features on the router such as multiband, proprietary channel bonding or "turbo" modes, beacon suppression, etc. Simplify things and see if the problem disappears.
good luck
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I had the same problem. I fixed it by setting my router to only do B/G instead of B/G/N. This means I can only get max 54kps, but so what. I was only getting a bit better than that before.
Hope this helps!
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Thank you, I will try this.
Some observations I have made in a few weeks with the minix neo x5 mini and the problems people including myself have had with wifi. I am hoping this may help others, what I have found is trial and error and some conclusions based on guess work as to why my results are what they are. Its long winded but if your having wifi issues, you might want to read it.
I started out with one router, a netgear wnr2500 flashed to dd-wrt sp2. Not much of a router for todays standards but all I had lying around after a recent move. Not to imply the wifi on the mini is flawed,,, though it is not hard to find people having issues, google it. In fact many of the rk 3066 mini tv sticks have similar issues for people no matter the brand. Either I missed the related posts googling repeatedly on the subject or I may have actually stumbled across something.
No matter what channel I used, I would eventually get buffer issues when watching streaming content such as xbmc, netflix and so on. I tried editing the buffer size in xbmc, seemed to help, slightly. Heres what seems now to be a recipe that works for me, all the time, it might buffer for 2 seconds out of 24 hours of viewing.
I will ad to this I bought a tplink wdr4300 to trouble shoot the issues I was having. I will also talk about how I think that router is not good hardware, although cheap with lots features. Bottom line the shiny new tplink actually made things worse as far as my buffer issues went with the mini.
I wanted two routers in the house on the same network, I have terrible coverage issues. to much metal in the house. so I hooked the netgear running dd-wrt as an ap to the tplink wdr4300 running its stock firmware. that part all works great. both running g/n mixed mode and both different channels to avoid collisions. also only the primary router is providing dhcp and so on just as described in the dd-wrt wiki. OK enough of that.
I found that the dd-wrt router was having issues but much less then the shiny new tplink. after tinkering with different channels on the dd-wrt router and tweaking settings I figured out this. In the advanced wireless settings in dd-wrt there is a setting called bt coexistence. bt standing for Bluetooth. I figured might as well enable it, my phone has bluetooth, and I wasn’t so sure the cheapo wireless keyboard and mouse I was using on the mini was not as well. That little setting made all the difference in the world, that and trying different channels until I found one not being used by other people, for me that was channel 2. I have nearly 0 buffer issues now. I can even stream full 1080p with no issues. prior to those two key changes I was having issues daily. wifi completely crashing when it was bad. not now, not at all.
I don’t know if the results I am having is related to the netgear using a broadcom chipset or not, heres where I will reflect on the tplink being not so good. on the dd-wrt ap router, connected via ethernet cable to the tplink, download speed tests are consistently 15 to 20 percent faster via wifi then when connected to the tplink via wifi doing the same tests. The tplink uses atheros chipset which on the consumer level I have never been fond of. Either they got a crappy driver in the stock firmware or there is a leak somewhere. the tplink coverage isn’t anything to brag on either. I am flashing it to dd-wrt as well, because the stock firmware doesn’t have the blue tooth coexistence feature. I will also lose some coverage flashing the tplink to dd-wrt but without the blue tooth coexistence feature, it will not run the mini properly.
I took it a step further, I sold a second mini to a buddy. I told him what I had run into. sure enough, he also had issues with a linksys wrt54g. That’s old and with stock firmware doesn’t handle a load well. I have had several myself and flashed every one to dd-wrt sp2. I flashed his for him,,,, guess what, same exact results, smooth sailing for him.
I started reading the system messages on the mini when I was having all the wifi trouble, it always was proceeded by java errors in the logs. Doesn’t android use java in 4.1.1 and 4.2.2 to run bluetooth? if so it would all make sense of the results I had.
short end of it, if your router supports blue tooth coexistence and your having wifi issues with your tv stick, try enabling that feature.
Turns out the atheros chipset may or may not have bt devel in it, seems a bit unclear on google. The drivers i am guessing arent open to open source developers, just a guess. As a result the bt coexistance option isnt in dd-wrt. Back when linux was first trying to have a working driver for older atherus chipsets, backward engeneering was the open way, seems that hasnt changed.i used a nightly tet version of dd-wrt. As nice as dd-wrt is, this unit still runs like a schol bus with a moped engine as far as the wifi goes. I bought the tplunk because i was frustrated with the wifi issues i was having amd only looked into the reviews of it for 15 or so minutes. Turns out there is a epron regulating its tx power.there are some patches to get past this that have mixed results and several bricked units. Not that i couldnt jtag it but i am giving it a rest for now, i dont see any great success storys related.
The bt settings related to the minix mini, i stand by that, never more stable, runs flawlessly.
Side note for me at least, i dont run ms os's unless forced, i will aviod any routers containing atheros chipsets in any device as a result, untill the workings are better understood. I remember the old atheros 5k drivers back in the days of mandrake power pack edition, this router reminds me of that time.
All this is just my opinion, nothing more, not without countless hours of time spent though.
If i only ran ms, i wouldnt feel the way i do, it is what it is.
Hopefully someone else is a dd-wrt fan running a rk3066 tv stick and the router is broadcom based.
So I just picked up the S5 2 days ago and noticed a problem with it as soon as I connected to WiFi at home. I have the S3 and Note Pro 12.2 tablet and they run perfectly on my WiFi at home.
The first thing I noticed was in the Google Play store. When I start typing in the search bar, usually a drop down with suggestions would appear once you type in a few letters. It doesn't do that when connected to WiFi. When I click search, the apps will show but the thumbnail pics won't load right away like they should. After clicking install the bar will say downloading but won't actually start and show any progress for about 10-20 seconds. Turn off WiFI and try through 4GLTE and it works perfectly. Suggestions show up as I search, pics load right away and downloading starts immediately when clicking install.
On WiFi - the Facebook app keeps giving an error that it can't log in. After several tries it will log in and the newsfeed will show but no pics will load, not even the little thumbnail profile pics of people who posted. I go into app settings and clear the Facebook data so nothing is cached, turn WiFi off and open the app while on 4GLTE. The app opens right away and all pics load as they should.
On WiFi - open the Youtube app and it takes about a minute for the main screen to load. Then when it finally does load and show the list of videos, the pics of the video screenshots don't load for a minute or two. Same with Google Play, when I search for a video, no drop down menu appears when I start typing. After typing, click search and the videos will appear right away but no pics load again for a while. Again, clear the data/cache in app settings, turn off WiFi and open YouTube in 4G and it loads everything right away.
Browsing with Chrome however works perfectly on WiFi. Pages and pics load right. This doesn't make any sense to me.
I took the phone back to the Verizon store and explained what was happening. Facebook and YouTube are my test apps. I cleared the data/cache on both apps, connected to Verizon's WiFi and of course everything worked as it should which leads me to believe the S5 does not like my router which is a D-Link DIR-615. I no expert when it comes to routers. I changed a few settings but nothing worked.
I posted a screenshot of my wireless settings. Right now it's on mixed n,g,b and I tried n only and g only. I disabled auto channel scan and tried each channel individually. Nothing.
My next course of action is to buy a new router which I shouldn't have to do. If anyone can help me avoid doing that it would be much appreciated.
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connected to Verizon's WiFi and of course everything worked
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I agree with your tentative conclusion. There is scant evidence that it is the phone. And your phone works fine on a different wifi. Most of your app quirks simply sound like expected behaviour if your dlink is slow to establish a connection. It's far more likely that it is the router doing something odd or not coping well with local channel interferrence.
Moreover dlink routers are famous for having quirks not normally seen on other name brand routers. Try defaulting your router configuration, setting it to a low performance mode if your dlink has that, force it to use a different channel and upgrade the router firmware. Even better, buy a real router.
This isn't a router forum though. You'd be farther ahead posting in a router forum than here.
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I agree with your tentative conclusion. There is scant evidence that it is the phone. And your phone works fine on a different wifi. Most of your app quirks simply sound like expected behaviour if your dlink is slow to establish a connection. It's far more likely that it is the router doing something odd or not coping well with local channel interferrence.
Moreover dlink routers are famous for having quirks not normally seen on other name brand routers. Try defaulting your router configuration, setting it to a low performance mode if your dlink has that, force it to use a different channel and upgrade the router firmware. Even better, buy a real router.
This isn't a router forum though. You'd be farther ahead posting in a router forum than here.
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I didn't know D-Links were garbage. I'm not going to bother troubleshooting in a router forum. I think you're right and I just need a to buy a new one. What brands are considered "real routers"? I'll head over to Micro Center today. I see on their web site that Asus, NetGear and LinkSys have gotten decent reviews. Anyone with the S5 use any of those brands?
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I didn't know D-Links were garbage. I'm not going to bother troubleshooting in a router forum. I think you're right and I just need a to buy a new one. What brands are considered "real routers"? I'll head over to Micro Center today. I see on their web site that Asus, NetGear and LinkSys have gotten decent reviews. Anyone with the S5 use any of those brands?
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Any of those three are fine. I'm not a huge fan of Netgear but they're okay. Linksys is good. The higher end Asus routers are some of the best consumer routers period. I'll vouch for the rt-n66u and rt-n16. The last time I looked about $130 and $75 respectively. If you want to spend less, buy whatever brand name, gigabit class router is on sale.
An advantage with the Asus models is that you have the option of flashing more powerful, third party firmware like tomato to add all the features you'd find on a $600 enterprise router.
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Any of those three are fine. I'm not a huge fan of Netgear but they're okay. Linksys is good. The higher end Asus routers are some of the best consumer routers period. I'll vouch for the rt-n66u and rt-n16. The last time I looked about $130 and $75 respectively. If you want to spend less, buy whatever brand name, gigabit class router is on sale.
An advantage with the Asus models is that you have the option of flashing more powerful, third party firmware like tomato to add all the features you'd find on a $600 enterprise router.
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I went out and got the rt-n66u and problem solved. Thanks for the recommendation.
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I went out and got the rt-n66u and problem solved. Thanks for the recommendation.
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Great to hear.