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Don't start a flame war.
I wont be dealing with it.
Any news on when Samsung will be releasing their source code?
Wasn't there a certain amount of time they have to release the codes after they release the rom? Was it 60 days?
I heard they released it for the captivate, ours can't be too far behind.
I didn't see the US captivate source unless I just entered in the wrong model number.
They must release it in like 30 days.
They dont have any othr choice
eunkipark92 said:
Don't start a flame war.
I wont be dealing with it.
Any news on when Samsung will be releasing their source code?
Wasn't there a certain amount of time they have to release the codes after they release the rom? Was it 60 days?
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From what I get out of this, I have been told I am wrong.... and I honestly hope I am... but this is how I see it.
They have 60days according to the what ever open source agreement I don't feel like remembering what its called right now, ha. AFTER and OFFICIAL update to let the source code go.
HOW EVER! When they announced that they WILL let the source out... they said with in 60days of the OFFICIAL OTA, its all in the wording. Someone else pointed out that an update through Kies is NOT an official update, the only way it is official is if Tmobile pushes it through an OTA... and if you think about it that true.
But they pissed everyone off once and there was a backlash against them.... do you really think they will mess up like that again?
ipeench said:
From what I get out of this, I have been told I am wrong.... and I honestly hope I am... but this is how I see it.
They have 60days according to the what ever open source agreement I don't feel like remembering what its called right now, ha. AFTER and OFFICIAL update to let the source code go.
HOW EVER! When they announced that they WILL let the source out... they said with in 60days of the OFFICIAL OTA, its all in the wording. Someone else pointed out that an update through Kies is NOT an official update, the only way it is official is if Tmobile pushes it through an OTA... and if you think about it that true.
But they pissed everyone off once and there was a backlash against them.... do you really think they will mess up like that again?
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Yes. Source code doesn't look like it will be released soon. When it finally is, I'm pretty sure we will have 2.3.2 working.
CM 7 for Galaxy S is pretty close to done. Codeworkx just posted a video of CM 7 Gingerbread running on the I9000 pretty flawlessly.
It's here.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C2DsF7VT3ms
Krylon360 is working out the bugs on a TW build of Gingerbread as well (its working, just buggy). And Eugene seems to have figured out the battery drain from the I9000 kernels so if he has indeed, a LOT of I9000 things will be ported. This coming month is my expectation we will see fully functional Gingerbread on the Vibrant.
The source code for Froyo won't be relevant soon really. . .
Official isn't how the copyright is worded. Its 60 days from when you release. Putting something on Kies, an official source of software from Samsung counts as a release. Doesn't have to be OTA, doesn't have to be delivered by UPS, all that matters is it is released through an official channel, which it has been.
zharptitza said:
I didn't see the US captivate source unless I just entered in the wrong model number.
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I think I read the rogers captivate, and the armani branded captivate source were released.
How long did it take for the i9000 2.2 Source to be released?
ipeench said:
From what I get out of this, I have been told I am wrong.... and I honestly hope I am... but this is how I see it.
They have 60days according to the what ever open source agreement I don't feel like remembering what its called right now, ha. AFTER and OFFICIAL update to let the source code go.
HOW EVER! When they announced that they WILL let the source out... they said with in 60days of the OFFICIAL OTA, its all in the wording. Someone else pointed out that an update through Kies is NOT an official update, the only way it is official is if Tmobile pushes it through an OTA... and if you think about it that true.
But they pissed everyone off once and there was a backlash against them.... do you really think they will mess up like that again?
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Ka6 has to be the official cause I remember sammy saying that they released the official 2.2 update on fb
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Why don´t we have custom roms yet??
Wasn´t the source code dropped already??
When was the source dropped?
This is the last news we had:
http://www.engadget.com/2011/03/24/google-keeping-honeycomb-source-code-on-ice-says-its-not-ready/
funkatiko said:
Why don´t we have custom roms yet??
Wasn´t the source code dropped already??
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Since you think it dropped already go ahead and make one
What's the time frame they have to release the HC Source Code? Don't they HAVE to release it?
The Honeycomb sources will never be released. Google announced that at Google IO a few weeks ago, they will only release source code for Icecream Sandwich, which will unify phone (2.x) and Tablet (3.x) Android.
The reason they gave is Honeycomb is a hacked together version kinda rushed out for tablets, and they don't want anyone to see what a mess it is. (ok, that is my interpretation, their actual explanation is "this isn't a proper Android release as we took shortcuts to get it shipped ASAP for tablets, and we don't want devs to rely on these").
PaulG1488 said:
Since you think it dropped already go ahead and make one
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Since ur ass is were ur face should be, u are a freak.
RMerlin said:
The Honeycomb sources will never be released. Google announced that at Google IO a few weeks ago, they will only release source code for Icecream Sandwich, which will unify phone (2.x) and Tablet (3.x) Android.
The reason they gave is Honeycomb is a hacked together version kinda rushed out for tablets, and they don't want anyone to see what a mess it is. (ok, that is my interpretation, their actual explanation is "this isn't a proper Android release as we took shortcuts to get it shipped ASAP for tablets, and we don't want devs to rely on these").
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So is it for sure that we are not having custom roms for honeycomb 3.0 or 3.1? I remember someone (i believe it was bigrushdog) saying that the custom roms were just around the corner....and that was 1 month ago....
I believe some people were able to make some kind of homebrew ROMs based on the SDK. How that works exactly I don't know, someone with better Android technical knowledge than me might know.
RMerlin said:
I believe some people were able to make some kind of homebrew ROMs based on the SDK. How that works exactly I don't know, someone with better Android technical knowledge than me might know.
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They were able to port for other devices. But ports usually aren't the most stable things around - also no need for us to port...we have HC. We can't deodex and zip align without source. So anything a dev could do right now would be limited to some minor themeing.
You will never see a Honeycomb based custom rom (other then crappy reverse engineered SDK ones) because Google's not going to release 3.0 or 3.1 source code... You're gunna have to wait till Ice Cream Sandwich in Q4 to see any AOSP based ROMs (like CyanogenMod)
A better question might be if by the end of the year the Xoom will be updated to Ice Cream Sandwich?
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rschenck said:
A better question might be if by the end of the year the Xoom will be updated to Ice Cream Sandwich?
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Seeing as how Google said they will require manufacturers to support their devices for 18 months if they wish to use Android on their products at I/O this year, I'd assume so.
http://www.dashhacks.com/articles/g...st-be-supported-manufacturers-least-18-months
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And if Motorola does't... Source code will be available then for homebrew Icecream Sandwich if needed.
http://androidforums.com/samsung-me...al-2-3-gingerbread-update-available-eh09.html
Sprint/Samsung better not leave us hanging, dammit.
Anyone see if Samsung released the source to see if it contains Epic/Victory code?
Looks like the source is on https://opensource.samsung.com/ SPH-I500 EH09
Well, even though Samsung and Google have delayed their event, Ice Cream Sandwich is around the corner and the funny thing is that still nothing has been confirmed of its features.
Looking forward to it on your Desire Z?
It'll be nice, but I'm sure not much of a change for day to day use for me. I'm more excited about getting it on my Nook Color.
You should put desire z and g2. But I just want it to be released already. Have you seen the new ics video on the supposed nexus prime?
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98% sure it won't be released for our phones.
rmcsc said:
98% sure it won't be released for our phones.
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Definitely won't be released officially, but that's why we have CyanogenMod and other CM-derived ROMs
I still hope they think of us Desire owners.....
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Isn't there an update supposed to be coming for the DZ? Maybe we'll get the ICS with Sense 3.5...
I think they will . But have you guys downloaded the new ics music app just search for it on the forums. Looks similar to the honeycomb one just a few tweeks here and there
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98% sure it won't be released for our phones.
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I smell Darwin Award....
We all know it wont be released for our phones.
I bought a Viewsonic gTablet and this was the same talk going on - No Honeycomb. Mods started to ban people whining about when HC would be ported to the gTab. I gave up hope and literally a month later, there was an alpha ROM and now there are 3-4 good HC ROMs out there. And I think Google didn't release the source code for it. So, I am sure we will get IS on our Zs!
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98% sure it won't be released for our phones.
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Well obviously... But most people on XDA aren't waiting for official OTA updates lol. Go go CM8!!
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I bought a Viewsonic gTablet and this was the same talk going on - No Honeycomb. Mods started to ban people whining about when HC would be ported to the gTab. I gave up hope and literally a month later, there was an alpha ROM and now there are 3-4 good HC ROMs out there. And I think Google didn't release the source code for it. So, I am sure we will get IS on our Zs!
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Well the issue there was no source code and probably a smaller community. It will be much easier when ICS source drops lol.
Im more excited about all the cool roms the devs are going to make based off ICS!
im sure cyanogenmod 8 will be he BOMB!
According to Koush on G+ it will be CM9. Makes sense because Honeycomb wasn't open source
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According to Koush on G+ it will be CM9. Makes sense because Honeycomb wasn't open source
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Makes sense I guess, but I would think since CM8 never existed they'd just do CM8 for ICS.
Yea that would be awesome regardless of the naming scheme. I have yet to flash CM7 but for ICS I would do it in a heartbeat lol.
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According to Koush on G+ it will be CM9. Makes sense because Honeycomb wasn't open source
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Actually doesnt make sense but let the CM team do what they want....
In related news to CM, CM 7.1 final was released today
I would like to point out that there is absolutely no evidence to suggest that there will not be a 4.0 upgrade available for HTC VISION. Need I remind you all that there was an official upgrade to Android 2.2 for HTC SAPPHIRE/MAGIC32B made almost exactly ONE YEAR AGO? Yes, approximately the exact same time that HTC VISION was initially made available.
Also remember that the 32B was a 192 MB RAM device where only 97 MB was actually available to Linux. This significant upgrade from Android 1.6 to 2.2 required some MEMORY REDISTRIBUTION via new SPL to increase the available RAM to 112 MB. HTC VISION is not starved for RAM as the 32B was. HTC VISION has plenty of space left within the system partition (in fact on mine, there are 262 MB of free space on /system of over 400 total -- clearly intended to leave space for upgrades). Unlike the 32B, the specifications of Vision are far more than adequate, and even with a device as limited as 32B, they made the upgrade.
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Actually doesnt make sense but let the CM team do what they want....
In related news to CM, CM 7.1 final was released today
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CM "team", as well as all the other rom cookers out there (yes, they are cookers, Android is written by Google, CM just cooks it and adds in a few goodies.) do a TERRIBLE job of versioning.
I once suggested a much more sensible approach to versioning, which is used by many other downstream open source projects... but they threw a tantrum.
Versioning of Android ROMs should be as follows;
UPSTREAMNAME-UPSTREAMVERSION-DOWNSTREAMREVISION.DOWNSTREAMNAMEVERSION.ARCHITECTURE
Obviously ARCHITECTURE doesn't apply directly, but this could be replaced with DEVICE.
So.... CM7.1 for VISION should be versioned as
android-2.3.7-0.CM7.1.vision
With this, if they make a minor update (that they would normally call CM7.1.1), it would increment the DOWNSTREAMREVISION, so the new version would be android-2.3.7-1.CM7.1.vision.
I.e., the point here would be to keep the priority on the upstream version rather than downstream, because "android-2.3.7" is FAR more important than "CM7.1". Quite frankly, the "CM" version means ABSOLUTELY NOTHING.
Haven't heard anything amazing about ICS so far wish I had though. Any solid awesome rumors about improvements or features?
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Haven't heard anything amazing about ICS so far wish I had though. Any solid awesome rumors about improvements or features?
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Not really.
dhkr234 said:
I would like to point out that there is absolutely no evidence to suggest that there will not be a 4.0 upgrade available for HTC VISION. Need I remind you all that there was an official upgrade to Android 2.2 for HTC SAPPHIRE/MAGIC32B made almost exactly ONE YEAR AGO? Yes, approximately the exact same time that HTC VISION was initially made available.
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That was a long time ago. Now, forget it. They already gave up one update. They wont give us another.
Besides HTC is problably planning a new version of Sense for Ice Cream Sandwich.
killj0y said:
Haven't heard anything amazing about ICS so far wish I had though. Any solid awesome rumors about improvements or features?
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Nothing. There is nothing confirmed for Ice Cream Sandwich at all. Google has had it tightly wrapped up.
The only thing we do know that it is Android 4.0
Besides that:
Facial recognition features, new APIs to reduce development fragmentation, a unification of phone and tablet UIs and its APIs.
Nothing else is confirmed with sources beside it.
ICS BUILD WITH SENSE 3.0
I have made a ICS build with SENSE 3.0.
I am still very busy working on it and im expecting a release tomorrow
First here
Nice will be good to see what is working not working etc Good work man!
Looking forward to this then....willing to be the Guinea pig
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ICS with Sense 3.0 ? I need more explanation to be convinced...especially from a 12 posts profile.
Keep on Treckin!
WTF ? ICS with Sense 3.0 ?
If it's true, it will be really laggy, i think.
Hmmmm... Let's all wait to be amazed!
I smell ................
Yeah right!.......
If anyone were that far on with don't you think it would be one of our 'well known' devs??.
Let's stick to the facts. This thread/announcement stinks badly.
First, i could almost swear that Tytung was AOSP kernel, and not a Sense kernel.
Second, ICS, with Sense 3.0... so soon? So fast? No incompat problems ? No framework issues?
I don't like posts like this, to doubt before evidence, but this smells baddly of vaporware.
Unless its cotulla in a mask I don't believe it. Seeing as nobody has a perfected gingerbread sense, it doubt there is a an ICS sense.
Lock please...
As much as I agree with the above posts, the XDA environment allows anyone to make a thread as long as it is relevant.
Before calling a 'lock' or anything on this thread, the guy has the opportunity to come forth with something relevant. Give him a chance (until tomorrow, as he says) to release or at least give feedback on the criticism.
MrP.
You're right. We should not start spreading FUD... but recently... i've seen so many threads promising world (not just in HD2) and after 30/40 pages of posts... nothing.
Still.... lets us wait... and bleed.
This could be another great developer making a dramatic entrance, or a very bad joke. Tomorrow can not come soon enough.
BTW, tytung does have two R14 kernel for sense rom. Check it out here and here.
Have alook to his 11 previous posts... and cry...
Bad joke methink.
burn the witch lol
marynuss said:
ICS BUILD WITH SENSE 3.0
I have made a ICS build with SENSE 3.0.
I am still very busy working on it and im expecting a release tomorrow
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I like this guy.
Moved to general, until you release something usable.
Was wondering why something like this was in general. Will be interesting to see the turnout, hats off to the OP if he has accomplished this