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[T-MOBILE TAB]Can't do anything else if i am on a call. . .

A question to all specifically those with the t-mobile tab. I am wondering if any if you can use either the internet or maps while on a call? I have noticed that i can not, i loose edge even though i have some bars, see the picture bellow:
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Once i end the call i get the Edge symbol back.
Any way to be able to use both? What if i need to look for directions while on a call? The only option i have is to disconnect the call then launch maps, get the directions then call the person back. The same thing if i want to look up something online while on a call.
I had the same issue when i was using my Vibrant, and never got it to work.
Any suggestions, or is this not possible?
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As far as I remember, Tmobile has never offered voice + data simultaneously on their 3G network. One of the very very few perks of having the evil AT&T overlords.

adinis78 said:
Any suggestions, or is this not possible?
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No, it's not possible.
EDGE is still 2G, and you can't use 2G data and voice simultaneously.
You need 3G to have voice and data simultaneously, and that currently isn't possible with a T-Mo US Tab.
Regards,
Dave

agentdr8 said:
As far as I remember, Tmobile has never offered voice + data simultaneously on their 3G network. One of the very very few perks of having the evil AT&T overlords.
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thank you, but im still sticking with tmo..lol!!!

foxmeister said:
No, it's not possible.
EDGE is still 2G, and you can't use 2G data and voice simultaneously.
You need 3G to have voice and data simultaneously, and that currently isn't possible with a T-Mo US Tab.
Regards,
Dave
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thanks, but the previous member stated it can not be done even if running 3g+voice, i have the Vibrant and was never able to do so, if i had full 3g and got a call i would loose the 3g symbol and could not use the internet or google maps only after i ended the call i could.
this is such a bummer but i have dealt with it so far so i guess not that big of a deal.

It shouldn't prevent you from using voice + wifi though, so you could use your Vibrant as a mifi and share it out that way.

agentdr8 said:
It shouldn't prevent you from using voice + wifi though, so you could use your Vibrant as a mifi and share it out that way.
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that would be an option but then i would be needing 2 devices.
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its vice versa, whenever i'm on net mode, message or calls is getting a hard time to get through
been guesing that its the same 2g that causing it, but my colleague getting them just fine using blackberry
is it only android?
is RIM using a different band so voice and data can get side by side?
fyi, all of my colleague only getting 2g too (edge/gprs) coz we're on the same remote area

adinis78 said:
thanks, but the previous member stated it can not be done even if running 3g+voice, i have the Vibrant and was never able to do so, if i had full 3g and got a call i would loose the 3g symbol and could not use the internet or google maps only after i ended the call i could.
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I find it very hard to believe that TMo US don't support simultaneous voice and data whilst on 3G! It would be pretty retarded if true.
Here's a thread concerning this issue where a Nexus One owner confirms they gets simultaneous voice and data on their phone if they are in 3G coverage.
Regards,
Dave

foxmeister said:
I find it very hard to believe that TMo US don't support simultaneous voice and data whilst on 3G! It would be pretty retarded if true.
Here's a thread concerning this issue where a Nexus One owner confirms they gets simultaneous voice and data on their phone if they are in 3G coverage.
Regards,
Dave
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That's completely correct. T-Mobile's 3G network allows for both voice and data at the same time. I've had this since my G1 and all my other 3G phones up to and including the myTouch 4G I'm using now. AT&T allows for this as well, while the CDMA networks (Verizon and Sprint) technically could, but haven't sold devices that allow for it that I'm aware of (likely waiting for full 4G rollouts instead).
The problem you're likely having is that, as long as you're on EDGE the data portion WILL drop, and once the IP drops the little E will go with it. It will bring up the data connection again once voice is cleared. This is why long downloads over EDGE can result in getting voicemails on occasion, as the call might not ring through even though you had max bars.

Thank you, I am glad someone had the sense to post the right info. It is annoying when people post information and they have no idea what they are talking about. If we ever get a modem that works with 3g and Voice then YES they will both work at the same time. Even a non 3G ATT phone will NOT be able to do voice/data at the same time. It is simply a limitation of the GSM architecture.

student.driver said:
That's completely correct. T-Mobile's 3G network allows for both voice and data at the same time. I've had this since my G1 and all my other 3G phones up to and including the myTouch 4G I'm using now. AT&T allows for this as well, while the CDMA networks (Verizon and Sprint) technically could, but haven't sold devices that allow for it that I'm aware of (likely waiting for full 4G rollouts instead).
The problem you're likely having is that, as long as you're on EDGE the data portion WILL drop, and once the IP drops the little E will go with it. It will bring up the data connection again once voice is cleared. This is why long downloads over EDGE can result in getting voicemails on occasion, as the call might not ring through even though you had max bars.
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The weird thing is that when i had my Vibrant i was having the same issue, i could have full 3g service but i could not do anything while on a call ex.maps, internet, very strange.
Just hope someone can find a modem that will allow the tab to have full 3g+voice.
Sent from my SGH-I987 using XDA App

adinis78 said:
The weird thing is that when i had my Vibrant i was having the same issue, i could have full 3g service but i could not do anything while on a call ex.maps, internet, very strange.
Just hope someone can find a modem that will allow the tab to have full 3g+voice.
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That is strange, as my friend's Vibrant works fine doing both in 3G. You've never received an IM or eMail notification during a phone call?

just tested 3g data plus voice call on my vibrant, worked just fine. fast data too...

student.driver said:
This is why long downloads over EDGE can result in getting voicemails on occasion, as the call might not ring through even though you had max bars.
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Technically, even on 2G, the networks can prioritise voice over date, so that if a voice call comes in whilst you're on 2G data, the data will pause to allow the voice call to continues.
However, all the networks that I've ever user don't support this, though I'm sure many do.
Regards,
Dave

foxmeister said:
Technically, even on 2G, the networks can prioritise voice over date, so that if a voice call comes in whilst you're on 2G data, the data will pause to allow the voice call to continues.
However, all the networks that I've ever user don't support this, though I'm sure many do.
Regards,
Dave
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Yep, which is why that stands out in my mind as an annoyance. But since I leave the phone alone for the most part while I use my Tab, it isn't much of an issue anymore.

MY\t-mobile.com and does not let me browse the web.
Installed "GScript Lite" and BusyBox --> Extracted modemswitch.zip --> Copy /sdcard/modemswitch/switch.sh to the /sdcard/gscript/ directory--> "Add Script", --> select switch.sh--> saved.
Tried this from GScriptLite: switch
Rotohammer's Modem Switcher
Current modem=yyyyyyy
Flashing files ...
Switching to Phone/2G
The Tab never reboots and it doesn't switches to 3G. It returns back to GScriptLite. Switcher is on Edge --> my browser takes me directly to MY\t-mobile.com and does not let me browse the web. Did I miss something?
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[Q] Samsung focus 3G

I brought a Samsung focus couple of days back and not sure how to turn ON 3G. Read some articles and it says Setting> Cellular> Data connections> 3G ON/OFF but i don't see 3G option there. Let me know if there is way to turn ON 3G.
If not i want to return the phone.
Thanks!

Settings -> Cellular -> Data Connection -> ON/OFF
That's the only setting, and it should be On by default.
Brad.

If you bought if from the AT&T store it should already be on.
If not and its not already updated to NODO youc an chevron unlock it and use the samsung tools to add teh 3g toggle.
Serioulsy though, it should be on and if it doesnt have the samsung tools how did it get turned off?!

Samsung focus 3G
As i told you before, Nope its not there by default. The only way to deal with it is to unlock then let me know how to unlock(what's the process).
Thanks!

3G is turned ON by default and there is no option to turn it off. What mobile operator do you use?

Samsung focus 3G
Well how come i cannot surf internet meaning i can't browse net.
I cannot go to Gmail, yahoo, NY time, ESPN or any website.
I have tried this at different locations(cities) .
It works @ places like Star bucks where Wifi is exists.

Are you on AT&T? Is Settings -> Cellular -> Data Connection ON?

Samsung focus 3G
Had to reboot couple of times to see 3G back. Not sure why it was missing.
Now 3G is back ON and i can surf net.
It's a windows phone.. so obvious that i had to reboot the phone
Thanks!

I have a Samsung Focus from AT&T. Currently flashed with ROGERS rom, but either on this and on AT&T's rom I never saw a 3G icon. Does it means it never connected to network with 3G, or it's always with 3G by default thus never showing 3G sign anymore?
My operator is available on 3G, 4G even so it's not the case of carrier problem for sure.
Edit: managed to get an "E" icon, it stands for Edge no? I followed that tut, to enable it, yet still no 3G, is it working at all at my country? I mean the phone is from the USA, maybe different bands here.

Settings, applications tab, radio
set to World instead of North America.
Also, I suggest installing Samsung Tools to make sure you enable 3G and prevent the relock.

Thanks Finaly know what the RADIO setting does Thought its for the FM RADIO :]
Unfortunately cannot install Samsung Tools on my DEV unlocked phone, dunno why, is there any other method to check my 3G?

Sierra76 said:
Thanks Finaly know what the RADIO setting does Thought its for the FM RADIO :]
Unfortunately cannot install Samsung Tools on my DEV unlocked phone, dunno why, is there any other method to check my 3G?
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From your other posts, I get that your phone got relocked. Do the Chevron unlock again, and first thing install Samsung Tools, run it, check all boxes and restart your phone. Then, you might do other stuff.

EnderPsp said:
From your other posts, I get that your phone got relocked. Do the Chevron unlock again, and first thing install Samsung Tools, run it, check all boxes and restart your phone. Then, you might do other stuff.
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I will try, is it even possible to get my phone relocked if it's chevron unlocked using a token?
Well cant test it atm, it seems there is some problems. Anyone elese getting this error too?
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Sierra76 said:
I will try, is it even possible to get my phone relocked if it's chevron unlocked using a token?
Well cant test it atm, it seems there is some problems. Anyone elese getting this error too?
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Ahhh, you unlocked via Chevron Labs, not Chevron.
You should be okay. As long as you can deploy XAPs, you're unlocked.

Well I found out that my hosts file has new entry, dunno how this happened, I never did it myself. Probably some app from XDA forums did it. I removed it and I get different message "phone ignoring us"......meh.

Found a potential data unthrottle solution!!?!

First, a little bit about me that lead to how I came across this...
I work in the electronics department of a retail store, and when the days get slow I like to tether my G2 to the wifi enabled tv's and watch netflix with coworkers. I do this on almost a daily basis and burns through A LOT of data.
Of course after a few days I get the text message from T-Mobile after I get through my 5GB of (fake) unlimited data and will be slowed for the remainder of this billing cycle... This normally results in my downstream speeds going to a trickle of 7kb/s as apposed to my uncapped speeds of anywhere from 300kb/s to 1400kb/s.
So I have another job that I work on the days off sometimes and it's running deliveries. I use the navigation app to get to where ever it may be for work and sometimes my GPS doesn't like to locate me right away. When this happens at work, I start to panic (I don't know my way around town for sh*t) and try every solution on hand I can think of. I tried fixing permissions then network operator selections and eventually the GPS will locate me function just fine.
So I have never hit my cap while working my part time job doing deliveries, and have never really used the navigation app until I started working there and this is how I came across this uncapping of my data while trying to fix my gps, I went into wireless & network settings, then mobile networks, and select network operators, it does some searching for a bit then gives me the option for AT&T or T-Mobile, (I always just do select automatically) and after doing this, my data speeds return to normal... like I am still getting downloads at 600kb/s+.
According to the T-mobile "my account" app, I am at 7.26GB for this month.
(I will upload screens in a second for the naysayers)
Something about this network operator selection thing has the ability to unthrottle me everytime I go over my data. Not sure what actually happens behind the screens when I do this method but just thought I'd share in hopes that it may provide some help to others in a possible loop hole to the (fake) unlimited data issue a lot of us run into.
P.S. Noticed that the speedtest app always thinks I'm in Dallas TX every time I do the network operator unthrottle thing, when I actually live in the Chicago IL area.

Wow, this seems like a great find. finally we can maintain full speed over the month. Gonna definitely give this a try once my speed gets throttled. Thanks!

Just for safe measures before people start saying it's not working, I'd like to just make it known that I am currently running on CyanogenMod-7.1.0-RC1-vision and using 2.6.35.13-UmaroV1.06+ kernel. Radio-26.03.02.26_M. Dunno if that affects anything in this department lol.
Also one thing I've noticed and forgot to mention...If I connect to a wifi network, once I have disconnected from it, my speeds are throttled again but doing the operator selection unthrottles it. This is the only thing I've noticed that reactivates the throttle but is still fixed in a matter of minutes.

Ill test this once I finish download battlefield 3 though I dont think Ill hit 5gb once done. Probably need another 1GB or so.

BTW to save data from navigating, you can enable a feature in Google Maps 'labs' to allow caching map data. After enabling it, long press on a location and tell it to cache, it'll then download a 10 square mile radius of that point and save it to your SDcard (you can cache multiple areas). Then it won't cost you data next time you load that map
Anyways, interesting find! I wonder if its because it kinda... re-registers your phone on the network, and you get a new address / spot on the network? Idk... I've only hit my 5gb once and I wasn't capped so I can't really check this often.

My guess is that Tmobile servers learned your usage statistic including your location, amount of data consumed, most connected APNs nearby and usage schedule. They then use those factors to throttle/filter the APN you are connected to the most. But once you "refresh" the apn list or the cache on your phone by searching for network operators, your phone is no longer "blacklisted"
But that is just my theory.

@martonikaj
OMG that will be sooo incredibly useful. Thank you!!!
EDIT: Here's screens to show that it's no bs
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Wow, now im really hoping thisll work. EA and their stupid Origin errored out again. Lost a gig of data.

dietotherhythm said:
@martonikaj
OMG that will be sooo incredibly useful. Thank you!!!
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yep. I use map caching a lot when I'm going to be driving to/through like a rural area or a state park or something and I want a map, but won't have 3G (or even EDGE).

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How did you get the My Account app working? This is what mine looks like
And when I press Menu > About it says Unsupported Device

I just downloaded it from the market. You're on tmobile right?

dietotherhythm said:
I just downloaded it from the market. You're on tmobile right?
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Yes, I'm on T-Mobile. But I'm on CM7 like you are, and CM7 already includes the app. Is downloading it from the market the only way to get it to work?

I just downloaded it from market. Don't think it was there when I installed CM7.

Yeah, we known about this for a while. Same thing happens when you switch apns (wap.voicestream.com for example). It just changes your ip on the network and will last for several hours or until you reboot. Its temporary but works good enough. Too bad my old one doesn't work anymore. Its all controlled server side now.

c00ller said:
Yes, I'm on T-Mobile. But I'm on CM7 like you are, and CM7 already includes the app. Is downloading it from the market the only way to get it to work?
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In the build.prop in /system, with any text editor, you just need to change this:
ro.product.model=HTC Vision
ro.product.brand=vision (or whatever it says here)
to this:
ro.product.model=T-Mobile G2
ro.product.brand=tmobile
That's it. Reboot and it'll work just fine. I change it every time I update ROMs on CM.

The way I understood this: Once Throttled simply navigate to network operator settings and select your standard operator or reset your apn settings and you will at least for a certain limited time have unthrottled data?
At least as far as Berlin, Germany, network operator O2 goes: I cannot confirm that this actually works. (HTC Desire Z, latest Bulletproof MIUI rom).

Ditamae said:
In the build.prop in /system, with any text editor, you just need to change this:
ro.product.model=HTC Vision
ro.product.brand=vision (or whatever it says here)
to this:
ro.product.model=T-Mobile G2
ro.product.brand=tmobile
That's it. Reboot and it'll work just fine. I change it every time I update ROMs on CM.
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Mine works on CM7 without editing build.prop about 90% of the time. Kinda weird people seem to have different results.

thomas_wlc said:
The way I understood this: Once Throttled simply navigate to network operator settings and select your standard operator or reset your apn settings and you will at least for a certain limited time have unthrottled data?
At least as far as Berlin, Germany, network operator O2 goes: I cannot confirm that this actually works. (HTC Desire Z, latest Bulletproof MIUI rom).
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That's what I've been doing and it works great. Might just be a loop in the T-Mobile networks but I thought I'd share in case it wasn't brought to anyone's attention

Just to be sure I went for the latest nightly and tried again.
Made sure that I got new ip's. But still nothing. I guess that o2 germany simply handles throttling differently.
Thanks for sharing though, would've been nice if it worked.
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This didnt work for me. Im using MIUI Bulletproof ROM.
Although, right around the same time this thread was made, I went over the cap and still had full data speeds. It lasted 4-5 days I think.
I hit around 6.5 GB before I was finally throttled and that was around the end of Oct/beginning of Nov.

No Service for a few seconds, happens all the time

Hey everyone, just another thing I'm facing with my Note 4...
Ever since I got my Note 4, it's been having some problems with No Service, so I thought it was my old SIM card (that had to be hacked off into microSIM shape), but since I got it exchanged for a new one it's still dropping into No Service very often, like twenty times in 5 minutes. Then it seems to be fine for a few hours, but then it happens again a few times and so on...
Basic info:
SM-N910F
Stock, unrooted NK4 ROM with NK4 modem as there is no way to not trip KNOX yet.
O2 Czech Republic
In the same places, my S2 never had a single signal drop (No Service)—not sure if these two things are identical?
Questions/thoughts...
Could this be modem related or could it be something with the device itself?
Is there any way to test it?
I mostly notice it on H and H+, not so much (never) on EDGE, 4G coverage is rare in my area, so I can't say exactly.
Factory reset: could it change something in this case? I'm saving it as the penultimate solution, before getting a new one.
Thanks for your help.

I think I found a little bit of correlation between when and where it happens. Not really sure if it happens only when I'm close to some WiFi network, but I just noticed that when I'm in proximity of a WiFi network, the NO SERVICE is very often.
Plus, when I think about it, I haven't noticed it anywhere else, but in WiFi areas. Is the phone trying to tell me to use the WiFi?! Well, I can do that at home but nowhere else as I don't want my packets sniffed more than they already are by the provider...
Seriously, is there any way that WiFi networks could interfere with my phone's signal/service?

if smart switch is on, yes.

zurkx said:
if smart switch is on, yes.
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Thank you for the reply, I thought that smart switch was meant for transferring data from an old phone to a new one? Or do you mean some different "smart switch"?

look in settings. smart switch moves data from your mobile network to wifi and back.

zurkx said:
look in settings. smart switch moves data from your mobile network to wifi and back.
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Yeah, found it, Smart network switch in Wi-Fi settings. I have it unticked. So this shouldn't be affecting me(?) As the No Service happens to me when I'm on mobile data, in Wi-Fi range but my Wi-Fi is off...

no solution yet
I still haven't figured out what's the problem exactly.
But me and my colleague have the same provider, but she's got an S4 and when I had them side-by-side I noticed that both phones dropped to No Service at the same time, but my S2 didn't. The area is fine, signal-wise, there's even a mediocre 4G, but at the time all of them were on H+. And when they "regained consciousness", they were starting from zero signal EDGE back to full H+.
This makes me wonder, as it seems it's got to have something to do with some setting in both phones / SIM cards' setup. Both of them have new SIM cards and both of them did it even with the old ones.
I'm gonna call my provider's tech support to see what they have to say about it.

I am experiencing the same problem here in USA. I bought the phone from Amazon Germany, using it on AT & T network in US. For no reason the phone drops the phone call and goes into " Not registered on network" message. This lasts anywhere from 20 seconds to 5 minutes, then without me doing anything goes back to normal. I was using this phone in Czech republic for a week in January and had no issues.

I was experiencing no service on my Exynos n910u and I ended up reflashing ONLY the modem, and it's fine now.
Proof:
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Hey guys, thanks for the replies.
It seems to me like a modem issue too. I remember that I had to change modem on my S2 in order for H+ to work.
And since I can see there is an issue when changing countries, it would suggest it as possible... However, does flashing modem only trip the Knox counter or something? I can't read through the forums right now, so I'm asking politely here.
Anyway, I isolated the issue to 3G networks, because when I force my phone to be 2G only it never drops, my signal is green and seldom grey. No service never occurs, but as soon as I switch it to 2G/3G/4G or something else that includes 3G, it starts again.
Sent from my SM-N910F using XDA Free mobile app

carlitos66 said:
I am experiencing the same problem here in USA. I bought the phone from Amazon Germany, using it on AT & T network in US. For no reason the phone drops the phone call and goes into " Not registered on network" message. This lasts anywhere from 20 seconds to 5 minutes, then without me doing anything goes back to normal. I was using this phone in Czech republic for a week in January and had no issues.
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Wanted to thank you for the input, this just suggests that the modem/radio is at fault. Because you relocated to a different area and it doesn't work properly with the bands there.
I had the same problem on my S2, which was unable to connect to 3G until I flashed the modem recommended to me by someone here on xda. But that was almost 4 years ago, I just don't understand why this happens, what's so different that the modem just wouldn't connect, plus the S2 was bought from my provider and it was branded with their bloatware and still, it didn't work.
But here on my N4, it's similar, but it seems to work just fine and then, all of a sudden, you're facing No Service message for a few seconds or minutes, then boom, you're back on.
I spoke with Samsung support today, and I guess they didn't even understand what I was saying. I'm gonna have to visit them and ask around, if they could flash the modem to something more compatible with my area. Can't use the phone like this, that's why I bought it in the first place - I need to be online and as fast as possible. But now, it would seem like I'm better off with my S2
Sent from my SM-N910F using XDA Free mobile app

Well, that sucks...
So, I had my phone serviced and they said everything was fine and that it's working the way it should.
Of course it isn't, the second I walked out of there I had a No Service a few times again, I already tried changing the bands only to what my provider has, didn't help at all, switched it back to all available bands. Naturally, I got really pissed. There seem to be only two viable options:
a) flash a different modem, as suggested in a previous post
or
b) get rid of the phone, which I really don't wanna do, but it's really annoying having to resend every second message (often twice), be it SMS or IM, because it drops into No Service...
ad a) I did a search and I was unable to find a modem thread or anything regarding modems for N910F, am I blind or there isn't one? Or am I supposed to extract it myself from a stock ROM file? (I don't even remember how to do that anymore, lol.... I guess there is a guide for that, but again, I haven't found it?! Or is it universal across Samsung devices?)
ad b) I love the phone but this makes me wanna throw it out the window
Thanks for any kind of help! I'm desperate.

[email protected]$k! said:
So, I had my phone serviced and they said everything was fine and that it's working the way it should.
Of course it isn't, the second I walked out of there I had a No Service a few times again, I already tried changing the bands only to what my provider has, didn't help at all, switched it back to all available bands. Naturally, I got really pissed. There seem to be only two viable options:
a) flash a different modem, as suggested in a previous post
or
b) get rid of the phone, which I really don't wanna do, but it's really annoying having to resend every second message (often twice), be it SMS or IM, because it drops into No Service...
ad a) I did a search and I was unable to find a modem thread or anything regarding modems for N910F, am I blind or there isn't one? Or am I supposed to extract it myself from a stock ROM file? (I don't even remember how to do that anymore, lol.... I guess there is a guide for that, but again, I haven't found it?! Or is it universal across Samsung devices?)
ad b) I love the phone but this makes me wanna throw it out the window
Thanks for any kind of help! I'm desperate.
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Did you manage to solve your problems? I have the website with modems but i cant post links.

xztrazil said:
Did you manage to solve your problems? I have the website with modems but i cant post links.
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Thank you for your reply!
I haven't solved them yet, but it got a lot better when I updated to Lollipop. It's got a different modem (BOC4) and it seems to have improved my situation. So happy I didn't have to throw the phone away after all.
To be clear, it still happens but a lot less since the update, maybe once a week, for a few seconds which I deem acceptable but not ideal.

I think my wife just got WiFi calling enabled on T-Mobile!

My wife just got the 5.1 OTA last night and right now when she had a call come in a new answer screen popped up asking if she wanted to answer normal or answer on wifi!... Unfortunately we are out and about now. I will try to get a pic later

Could it have been hangouts?

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Could it have been hangouts?
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Possibly... I have never seen that screen before but then again I never used hangouts. Shr doesn't use it either though unless it enabled itself with the update

Well now that we are home I cannot recreate the answer screen ?

What's the build #?

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What's the build #?
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The M build

irock1985 said:
The M build
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Don't think it's got wifi calling enabled ... But really curious as to what you saw!

YankInDaSouth said:
Don't think it's got wifi calling enabled ... But really curious as to what you saw!
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Me too... I'm so mad that we were on our way out the gate and now I can't reproduce it...

hangouts works great. free wifi calling, you don't even need a phone plan these days...

Did it look like this?
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Did it look like this?
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No it wasn't hangouts... We tested that earlier and she said it wasn't any of the possible hangout ones... I am so mad that I was driving and couldn't really look at the screen myself.. . Also mad i didn't think to tell her to screenshot it

It specifically said something about answer with wifi

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hangouts works great. free wifi calling, you don't even need a phone plan these days...
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Stop, just stop. I am SICK and tired of seeing these posts. We are talking about WiFi calling on T-Mobile. EVERY single thread that talks about it has the "HANGOUTS IS SOOOO MUCH BETTER!!!!" It is not constructive to the conversation. We know about hangouts. We use hangouts BUT WE NEED WIFI CALLING. We have our own reasons. Just STOP.

@Topgun966 I'm new to T-Mobile and N6 is, obviously, the first device I've used on their network ... In regards to WiFi calling, I assume when you place a call via WiFi the party on the other end sees your regular # displayed? (sorry for the off topic question OP)

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Stop, just stop. I am SICK and tired of seeing these posts. We are talking about WiFi calling on T-Mobile. EVERY single thread that talks about it has the "HANGOUTS IS SOOOO MUCH BETTER!!!!" It is not constructive to the conversation. We know about hangouts. We use hangouts BUT WE NEED WIFI CALLING. We have our own reasons. Just STOP.
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If you want WiFi calling, I suggest using this app: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.google.android.apps.hangoutsdialer

Hmmm... Well, when T-Mobile gets Wi-Fi Calling in, a lot might not notice. It uses the same dialer, no difference.
Really the only way to tell is that you get a notification that w/c is active and you see your phone radio disabled. Functionally, it's exactly the same as normal dialing.

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@Topgun966 I'm new to T-Mobile and N6 is, obviously, the first device I've used on their network ... In regards to WiFi calling, I assume when you place a call via WiFi the party on the other end sees your regular # displayed? (sorry for the off topic question OP)
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I have used wifi calling all the way back to when it called UMA/blackberry days
Yes, the other end sees it as a normal call. In fact it appears as normal call on both ends. The only difference is that works even buried deep in a building as long as you have a wifi connection. No cell connection needed. Texting and everything just work as if you had cell signal.

"...under development! Still a way to go! (but we are getting closer!)"
https://twitter.com/askdes/status/580825432192253952

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@Topgun966 I'm new to T-Mobile and N6 is, obviously, the first device I've used on their network ... In regards to WiFi calling, I assume when you place a call via WiFi the party on the other end sees your regular # displayed? (sorry for the off topic question OP)
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Exactly. Your phone works just like a normal phone for texts/calls/mms but data is transferred over wifi. So when you traveling to places outside of T-mos network or traveling internationally, it acts just the same. For someone like me that travels quite often, I need it. My GV number is just for professional and spam calls. No one in my personal life has that number, as the way I want it. When I am overseas, or in a place with no coverage, I have to use my iPhone 6 for the wifi calling and I am telling you, that is annoying.

basically Hangouts IS wifi calling. Who cares, as long as you can make the damn call. It does work great, use it on my computer and tablets all the time with no carrier subscription. get a Google number folks