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Thoughts? Pros and cons? battle it out here. Thanks guys
Sent From The Brain Of The Magic Man Through His Nerves, Into His Muscles, To His Fingers And Onto The Magical Screen Of The Vibrant.
No need to battle. Flash both and you decide. Everyone varies. Both are great.
Has anybody experienced a significant difference in battery life between the two?
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No need to battle. Flash both and you decide. Everyone varies. Both are great.
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+1 I hate these threads. Its to many factors involved. try them its fun.
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Thoughts? Pros and cons? battle it out here. Thanks guys
Sent From The Brain Of The Magic Man Through His Nerves, Into His Muscles, To His Fingers And Onto The Magical Screen Of The Vibrant.
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another one of these questions facepalm
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No need to battle. Flash both and you decide. Everyone varies. Both are great.
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+ 1000
A backup of your files plus a flashing of a new ROM takes about 15 mins max. That's just to get a feel of the ROM and it's functions. So just flash them both, or even more and decide what YOU like.
If you want to test out the battery life, well that will take using the ROM for a few days. No one can truly tell you the difference in battery life because we all use our phones so differently.
I will say this tho: I've used both , and was a diehard TW ROM fan but then I used Trigger. I LOVE Trigger. But it's mostly because of the themeing and because of how involved the dev is in his own ROMs thread with answering questions and taking the users advice, requests, and opinions.
But again, it's really up to what YOU like. Don't listen to dumb quadrant scores and such and others battery opinions. Try them out and see. Both are great ROMS with their own pluses and minuses
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A backup of your files plus a flashing of a new ROM takes about 15 mins max. That's just to get a feel of the ROM and it's functions. So just flash them both, or even more and decide what YOU like.
If you want to test out the battery life, well that will take using the ROM for a few days. No one can truly tell you the difference in battery life because we all use our phones so differently.
I will say this tho: I've used both , and was a diehard TW ROM fan but then I used Trigger. I LOVE Trigger. But it's mostly because of the themeing and because of how involved the dev is in his own ROMs thread with answering questions and taking the users advice, requests, and opinions.
But again, it's really up to what YOU like. Don't listen to dumb quadrant scores and such and others battery opinions. Try them out and see. Both are great ROMS with their own pluses and minuses
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Hello eminembdg, I have been a loyal fan of teamwhiskey and their rims. However, I am about to try triger out this weekend. I just want to know if I will need to disbale voodoo and if there are some other caution I need to take before flash triger's 2.8 rom. I am presently running bionix 1.3. Thanks for your expected response.
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Hello eminembdg, I have been a loyal fan of teamwhiskey and their rims. However, I am about to try triger out this weekend. I just want to know if I will need to disbale voodoo and if there are some other caution I need to take before flash triger's 2.8 rom. I am presently running bionix 1.3. Thanks for your expected response.
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No need to disable voodoo if you're flashing from the red recovery. It was an issue with the original voodoo kernels (JAC's) and the ulf ones, but not anymore (in my experience, at least). I was also a TW fan until I tried out Trigger a month or so ago. Haven't changed since.
OP, gonna have to agree with the others. It's your phone, your usage. Try each one out and stick with whichever one you like best. They're both great rom's though.
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Hello eminembdg, I have been a loyal fan of teamwhiskey and their rims. However, I am about to try triger out this weekend. I just want to know if I will need to disbale voodoo and if there are some other caution I need to take before flash triger's 2.8 rom. I am presently running bionix 1.3. Thanks for your expected response.
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As long as your rom is currently running voodoo then just as the post above mine stated, no you do not have to disable voodoo.
Hold down power button, click recovery, and if it takes you to a red recovery then you can just flash away like normal.
BTW, Trigger just updated to 2.8.1 today with a nice memory tweak and a couple other small tweaks. GREAT ROM
Thanks a lot guys. I really appreciate your responses. Will do just as advised. Thank you.
I havent used trigger so I cant comment on it, but Ive been a huge TW fan since Nero 4. Stayed with it and I'm still super stoked about the look and the performance.
Vibrant, Bionix-v 1.3.1, Overstock 2.0, Voodoo...
I used to be a HUGE fan of TW and their roms. I used TW roms since Bionix 1.3.
But ever since I tried EDT roms especially Trigger, I dont think I'm gonna bother with TW anymore. Its just that much better.
Been using bionix v 1.2.1 for a while now. Love this rom.
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again facepalm
facepalm??? Napalm!
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Right now im using bionix and loving it. Trigger is wonderful as well and it seem faster. they have diffrent thems and small differences here and there. so close i basicly had to nit pick to pick one. trigger i had sms problem had to have it a certain format. could this be fix proabably so. for some reason i had a data issue as well other than that everything was great on trigger fast and smooth. Bionix didnt have those issues for me so i went back im trying to find a problem to send me back to trigger but i havent found one yet im about to test battery trigger had a great battery life for me with overstock 1.5. when i checked the system slept pretty well. it would be at 1% over night while charging. time to test bionix see if it compares thats it
Can't download Trigger 2.8.1
Hi everyone,
I am totally new to modifying phones but I am quite computer literate. I like the Vibrant alot but obviously the original software does not perform too well. I have tried to download the Trigger 2.8.1 ROM via the link in the developers section but I get nothing more than a blank page staring at me. Am I doing something wrong? I would have posted there but since I am new I am not allowed
thanks
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Hi everyone,
I am totally new to modifying phones but I am quite computer literate. I like the Vibrant alot but obviously the original software does not perform too well. I have tried to download the Trigger 2.8.1 ROM via the link in the developers section but I get nothing more than a blank page staring at me. Am I doing something wrong? I would have posted there but since I am new I am not allowed
thanks
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The link could have been down might want to try again. Sometimes internet explorer does the same thing to me then I use Mozollia Firefox works everytime
Thanks. I used Chrome and it worked fine
Both are good, my preference is trigger but you really can't go wrong with either.
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This thread is a bit outdated, and I'll try to update it as soon as I have time, but until then, I'm posting links to a few easy fixes.
Here's a ready-to-go EH17 ROM that should be good for daily driving:
[Odin]|[Heimdall] Stock EH17 + stability fixes
Here's Marcusant's EH17 ROM with some nice mods and a great theme: (It's now in version 6. My notes are on version 4.)
▒▓█[ROM]ACS ICS v6 (Now with moar gps! (and a theme)) [eh17]█▓▒
I've been experimenting with EH17 ROMs and mods, ever since stock EH17 hit the forums. I don't think I've had Froyo on my Epic since around EG/EH builds. I'd like to share my experience, since so many people are still not wanting to move past Froyo, and I'd like them to have a nice, quick rundown of what to expect with EH17. Yes, it's not perfect, but, with a few tweaks, it's definitely more than capable of being a reliable, daily-driven ROM.
Stock EH17 has been super-reliable for me, ever since finding out about the SetCPU/Tegrak combination to avoid the random restarts, caused by Samsung's developers testing lower voltages. My settings are listed below, at the bottom of my custom setup. This has been working for me on any ROMs where I experience the random reboots.
Also, the three ROMs I've been working with mainly include: Stock EH17 Deodexed, ACS ICS*, and Cyanogen*.
*It should be noted that the latest versions I've used are ICS Beta 4 and Cyanogen 10-22 update, and things are very well subject to change, as development seems to be coming along at a very nice pace for both.
My Combined EH17 Mod Setup:
This is the order of install, as well.
[Odin]Stock EH17 Deodexed with CWM 3.1.0.1/Root/Busybox 1.19
Plus Kernel
Hotspot Hack
CRT Screen Off (with non-working battery %)
UOT: GB Battery % and Transparent Notifications Background (Made with the modified system files.)
Helix Boot/Shutdown Animations
Roboto Font (Through Font Changer.)
Sprint and Samsung apps removed, minus Allshare and hotspot (obviously).
Touchwiz 3 (as my launcher) for testing purposes, just to see performance compared to Cyanogen/ICS, which require a 3rd party launcher. I'll report on QQLauncher later, which I used in both of the other ROMs.
SetCPU - On Demand 100/1000 & Screen Off 100/200 (Stability from random reboots with Tegrak and hopefully battery battery life.)
Tegrak -On Demand 100/1000 - 100mhz @ 1000mV - 200mhz @ 1025mV (Stability from random reboots, while screen is off.)
Notice, the order these were installed. I made sure to open up the mods first and see what files were similar. If two mods you're trying to use both modify the same thing, you're probably going to run into issues. Pay attention to this, when combining mods/themes, and it will help save you some headaches. I'm still learning how to combine mods which use the same files, and I'll post links to the guides I find help me accomplish this the most.
My Opinion:
Stock EH17 (with mods) - Smooth, fast (It's still an Epic on 2.3.), and reliable - with a few tweaks.
Cyanogen SELFKANG (10/22) - Smoothest, fastest, most customization, and best experience, but it still has minor bugs (plus no 4G or video camera) preventing a super-solid daily ROM.
ACS ICS Beta 4 - Very smooth and fast, but it often lags and hitches as well. Performs well on intensive apps but not in general for me, even with all the optimization programs/scripts. Beta 5 is supposed to eliminate many of the memory issues, but I have yet to try it. (I'm working on combining my installed mods and theme.)
Battery Life:
My battery life seems to be roughly the same with all three of those ROMs, running most of the same apps. I've never had much luck getting over 12hrs of moderate use on any ROM or mod, to include Froyo. If I make it 12hrs, I'm really, really low, but I'm still pretty demanding on my phone; it's no one else's fault.
I'm that guy that needs a well-calibrated extended battery, or a new phone, if I want to get away from my charger more. Fortunately, I have an Energizer portable battery charger for a couple extra hours mobile charge and a solar powered charger, for when I'm in the field with the Army.
GPS:
This GPS fix seems to work great. I get fast, accurate locks. Gingerbread Leak GPS Fix Thread
I hope this post helps more people jump over to EH17 and start experiencing all the great benefits Gingerbread has to offer, without the common problems people run into.
Please feel free to ask any questions about my setup or anything I failed to mention.
This belongs in GENERAL
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Congrats, but this is not development, doesn't belong in here...
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i dont understand. why do people countiually post in this section when their topic belongs elsewhere?
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thanks for sharing...ive tried to change core values in tegrak but it doesnt want to apply...so i just left it at on demand, 1000/100...i uninstalled setcpu as it was giving me wake problems...but im going on almost 24 hrs without a reboot....hopefully this holds up...im on um 2.0, eh17 modem and honeycomb fusion theme...
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If working on getting ROMs stable, trying to fix broken features, and combining mods has nothing to do with development, I apologize for posting in the wrong section.
kalel_293 said:
thanks for sharing...ive tried to change core values in tegrak but it doesnt want to apply...so i just left it at on demand, 1000/100...i uninstalled setcpu as it was giving me wake problems...but im going on almost 24 hrs without a reboot....hopefully this holds up...im on um 2.0, eh17 modem and honeycomb fusion theme...
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If you end up running into any problems, make sure you've got the most updated paid version of Tegrak. I'll keep an eye out for wake problems and read up on it. Thanks.
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If working on getting ROMs stable, trying to fix broken features, and combining mods has nothing to do with development, I apologize for posting in the wrong section.
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It does have to do with development, but the topic itself is not development toward the Epic. I appreciate the article, and I find it rude that others on here keep repeating the same thing.
I understand the mistake, but be a little careful next time. Some people here...get pretty pissed.
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It does have to do with development, but the topic itself is not development toward the Epic. I appreciate the article, and I find it rude that others on here keep repeating the same thing.
I understand the mistake, but be a little careful next time. Some people here...get pretty pissed.
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Thanks for explaining this. After I'm out of class, I'll try to reorganize the layout of my original post to where it should more correctly focus on helping development, as that's my intent. My end goal is to learn enough to create a guide and/or tool to help the average person put together various mods, without too much work or having to ask people to make things for them.
Nice! But change your GPS fix link to this one:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1321049
This is in CM7 that actually works on GB leaks. Full locks now!
kennyglass123 said:
Nice! But change your GPS fix link to this one:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1321049
This is in CM7 that actually works on GB leaks. Full locks now!
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Thanks, will update. I can't wait to try it myself!
Good thorough breakdown...
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Nice post... im one of the people who have not updated yet because I need a stable rom for day to day use. Only rom to provide that for me has been syndicate 1.2. Although, your post has convinced me it is still not time to go to gingerbread because it is still to buggy and requires a lot of tweeking. And **** all the people *****ing about posting in the wrong thread. They are assholes. One reply telling you is all that was needed. That's why the development sucks in the epic xda section, because people are assholes and not greatful.
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Also as soon as Rodderik puts out his new kernel it will work for EXT4 or RFS. Also have not had a reboot testing it for 2 days.
Co-Sign on the Assholes Part! Also, as someone who depends on GPS a lot I found this thread very helpful, I've tried various EH17 roms with lackluster results... thanks for your opinions and suggestions.
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I've been running CM7 1022 since it was released and have had stellar performance on everything. GPS and nav have been flawless. Quick locks and good position.
I even had some phone calls where I was shocked at the clarity. I didn't realize how "unclear" some of my calls had been. I don't assume that the ROM was particularly responsible for the call clarity, but it was something I have noticed in the last 2 days.
Sad to see this forum is still full of pretentious douchebag forum police, who still haven't learned to just report a post instead of commenting, if it bothers them so much.
Great post OP, pushed me to finally get around to changing m early GB rom and fix random lag and reboots. Thanks!
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Good thread. Ignore the haters.
Last night I created my own ODIN tar with a modified EH17 system that includes the hotspot hack, gps fix, plus mkasick's kernel based on official 11/19 sources. In my experience, voltage tweaks are not necessary with mkasick's 11/19 kernel.
Would anyone be interested in this?
toadlife said:
Good thread. Ignore the haters.
Last night I created my own ODIN tar with a modified EH17 system that includes the hotspot hack, gps fix, plus mkasick's kernel based on official 11/19 sources. In my experience, voltage tweaks are not necessary with mkasick's 11/19 kernel.
Would anyone be interested in this?
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HA! I was going to do the very same thing this weekend. Definitely post it since there are no full ROMs with the new kernel besides CM7 yet.
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This belongs in GENERAL
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Isn't this general?
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This is an idea I got from an old thread in Desire HD section which had my setup as influence. Also I have seen that many users have been suggesting this idea in Galaxy S2 forums for the last few months as well. So, time to realize it.
Old thread created almost a year back by my XDA Desire HD buddy danalive:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1059778
So the idea is very simple, basically this thread is run by you guys. So please post your tried and tested combinations for the benefit of others. What ROM did you find most attractive? What KERNEL was most battery efficient and smooth for you? Which MODEM gave you the best balance between GPRS/3G/HSDPA and battery drain?
It also helps if you post screenshots of battery life with regards to your current setup and any other info that you think would be useful.
So without further ado I shall start off the festivities, with 2 recommendations:
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FIRST ONE:
ROM: VillainROM v3.0 (KI3_2.3.5)
KERNEL: Ninphetamine (2.0.5) or SiyahKernel (latest)
MODEM: KI3
REASON: Winning combo, both with regards to battery life and stability. If my desire to have new mods wasn't as big as having never endless smoothness and stability I'm sure I'd still be using it.
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SECOND ONE (current setup):
ROM: Batista70 FoxHound v3.0 (KL1_2.3.6)
KERNEL: SiyahKernel (latest)
MODEM: KI3 or your preferred one
REASON: Another winning one for me, stability hasn't reduced if compared to my previous configuration. Battery life is probably very very slightly been reduced but that maybe just my perception since I'm testing new Modems at the moment. Also most new mods are compatible which is always a plus for those customization heads, which is most of XDA.
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REFERENCE LINKS:
VillainROM thread
Batista70 FoxHound ROM thread
Nimphetamine thread
SiyahKernel thread
Sticky Modem thread
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So, that's about it from me guys. Please feel free to try out any of these and see how they work for you. Over to you Samsung Galaxy S2 users.......
I always see these threads as having 10 pages really fast, and then no one really looking through several thousands of posts about random strangers saying "omg dinosaur rom bestest". And when a new phone user comes, he will create a new thread, because "i've read that thread, but there are 20 pages, how should I know which one to choose?" What's the point? Maybe if you'd do some kind of statistics, gather some data out of it. Give it a purpose rather than just pile up a bunch of random half-assed opinions.
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I always see these threads as having 10 pages really fast, and then no one really looking through several thousands of posts about random strangers saying "omg dinosaur rom bestest". And when a new phone user comes, he will create a new thread, because "i've read that thread, but there are 20 pages, how should I know which one to choose?" What's the point? Maybe if you'd do some kind of statistics, gather some data out of it. Give it a purpose rather than just pile up a bunch of random half-assed opinions.
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I've already said it's best for people to post their explanatory reasons for choosing the setups that they have. Why don't you start by posting something constructive instead of slagging off something which essentially could be useful to others.
Do you have any idea how lost some people feel accessing this site for the first time?? This way they will be able to see what kind of ROMs and stuff people are using and try out 1, 2, or 5 variants till they find the one which works best for them.
Purpose of this thread is very simple, don't understand it? Go troll somewhere else please.
Fine, I'm using the latest unofficial CM7 nightly, as my signature says. Reason? I like it more than the Samsung ROM's, and there's not much choice from there.
Edit: battery life - about 48 hours with light/medium usage, 2 hours of display, 10-15 minutes of calls / day, wifi and autosync always on.
And I'm not trolling. I'm just trying to understand it, and putting it in words. That's what this forum is for, after all. If I have an idea how new people feel? Well no, that's why I try to put myself in their position, and try to guess what would they do if this thread would be the first thing they'd see accessing the forums. Let's say it will have 400 posts, everyone having a different opinion on which ROM is best, (because let's face it, no one will say he's using a ROM which blows ass, (and most of the time they didn't even try that many to form a real opinion (and even if they would, you couldn't tell them from the other ones (and even if you could, that new guy probably wouldn't read past the third page, so he would have a really small sample of the total, which would mean nothing (because everyone is using their phone differently))))) how would he choose one, randomly? I'm not trying to be the party pooper here; it's fine to discuss these things, but it won't help anyone.
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Fine, I'm using the latest unofficial CM7 nightly, as my signature says. Reason? I like it more than the Samsung ROM's, and there's not much choice from there.
And I'm not trolling. I'm just trying to understand it, and putting it in words. That's what this forum is for, after all. If I have an idea how new people feel? Well no, that's why I try to put myself in their position, and try to guess what would they do if this thread would be the first thing they'd see accessing the forums. Let's say it will have 400 posts, everyone having a different opinion on which ROM is best, (because let's face it, no one will say he's using a ROM which blows ass, (and most of the time they didn't even try that many to form a real opinion (and even if they would, you couldn't tell them from the other ones (and even if you could, that new guy probably wouldn't read past the third page, so he would have a really small sample of the total, which would mean nothing)))) how would he choose one, randomly? I'm not trying to be the party pooper here; it's fine to discuss these things, but it won't help anyone.
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Thanks for your input mate, just posting statistical battery time will help a lot of users so I maintain that this is a useful topic. You're the first person to disagree with me on this subject. I'm tired of seeing people asking for this kind of thread.
/OT chat over
One of the real problems a lack of actual measurement of roms and their usage .
The PC and Mobile mags run a fairly comprehensive test on stuff they review giving an end result of speed and battery life . All we get is this is the best rom or Quadrant is 8000 if the rom is overclocked subjective mostly not objective .
Easy to fix no as the various benchmark test fluctuate to much from one reading to another to be deemed as usable . Then no real constant measure of battery life from objective testing .
And yes by post ten the thread will be filled with whats the best rom posts ignoring posts one and two etc .
jje
XILA2 with either SpeedMod K2-18/K2-19 test 5 or N.E.A.K. 1.3x I get awesome battery life and performance at the same time. Siyah wasn't so good for me, because it kept restarting my phone.
Also, you guys MUST install XILA2. Best GB ROM for S II. Fuken stable and fast as hell. And the new lockscreen isn't so bad. I've come to love it. <3
Good idea so here's my setup:
Clean&Simple rom +latest siyah (2.6.7)
because i like my phone as close as stock as possible but
without all the unneeded bloatware that comes with samsung roms, most of the apps tend to drain
the battery (because of the many wakelocks) or use a lot of ram.
in combo with siyah kernel best battery time ive had was 72 hrs with lite usage
p.s. i'm thinking about trying out foxhound because of all the good things ive heard about this rom.
Suggestion: please make a Google SpreadSheet (read only) where people can see all information in one place instead of going through endless pages of posts.
Than anyone cold submit the necessary information (ROM+ kernel+ ~battery life) through PM or posting here.
And no one could mess up your SpreadSheet
Im using the exact same setup you are using. Used to have
VillainROM 3.0 + Siyah latest + KI3/KH3 modem.
Now I am on
Foxhound 3.0 + Siyah 2.6.7 + KL1 modem.
Had great resulta from both. So this is more a confirmation that your first post is true for me as well. I think this thread is a good idea, new people are really helped by threads like this.
XDA mark said:
Im using the exact same setup you are using. Used to have
VillainROM 3.0 + Siyah latest + KI3/KH3 modem.
Now I am on
Foxhound 3.0 + Siyah 2.6.7 + KL1 modem.
Had great resulta from both. So this is more a confirmation that your first post is true for me as well. I think this thread is a good idea, new people are really helped by threads like this.
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Good choices.
You're using a different modem to me at the moment since at the moment I'm seeing what LP1 is like for battery life. So far so good, seems very similar to KL1.
I'm using CheckRom V4 with speedmode k2-18 kernel and KL1 modem and it is the best from many choices i've had done.Speedmode is much battery friendly than siyah and it gives me like 4700 point in quadrant advanced edition with stock settings
I'm using cyanogenmod 7 nightly compiled by Codeworkx available here: oh, not allowed to post links
I use this because it's easy (nearly noob proof). Great performance, highly customizable.
Can't wait for the official release of CM9.
Krinyo's SlimRom - Very skinny (ca. 114 MB), lightning fast, great monochrome theme, great support. A keeper.
Siyah kernel. Works well, not much more to say. Was on Nimphetamine (still miss Hacre), and tried void echo, which has the best battery life for me, but staying with Siyah because of Voodoo Louder support.
KL1 modem. Again, just works.
hey there, i'm using Hyperdroid/Androidmeda v5.2.21 with the LP1 modem and the Phenomenal 2.2 balck extreme kernel. works very good for my, extreme batterylife
Just thought ill add my 2 cents/pence
For me it would have to be Checkrom v4 with the ninphetamine kernel.
I chose Checkrom because it's close to stock but has so many great yet subtle extras. With siyah or dark knight I didn't feel the battery lasted too long but with ninphetamine I don't worry about it lol
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For today I went back to Villainrom 3.0 with latest Speedmod, KI3 is a great modem and firmware.
XILA2 was not very stable for me.
I'm testing quite a lot and I think Speedmod is way better than Siyah,Siyah is in my opinion just crap.
Yeah you can UC/OC it and whatever,but without some extreme modifications it won't be as smooth and battery friendly.
Or could somebody give me some 'magical' settings?
For some people Siyah seems to be great.
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I had read that at his end, but I was curious why I never saw it discussed anywhere by anyone. He has a good thing going there.
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I had read that at his end, but I was curious why I never saw it discussed anywhere by anyone. He has a good thing going there.
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I was intrigued as well. There are rules pertaining to kernels here in xda. If a dev won't comply, the thread gets to be closed down.
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I was intrigued as well. There are rules pertaining to kernels here in xda. If a dev won't comply, the thread gets to be closed down.
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Yes I know the rules, but I figured someone would've started a discussion in the general area. Oh well, guess I just did.
I don't know what I expected actually, my experience on any forum is that most people don't research on their own, they come to forums and if the answer isn't there, they give up. I love googling for new undiscovered gems. :thumbup:
Hi!
First of all, I would like to thank you wholeheartedly for the interest in ShinTo Kernel and your time in testing it.
I am sincerely blown away by the spike in interest... Just wow!
In the space of two months I have moved twice across Europe and am currently getting settled in my new home (and waiting for the darn broadband).
I can assure you two things; ShinTo Kernel & PreCog.me are not a hobby.
They are my daily work focus (as in my daily job).
I could extend myself talking about the great projects I have but I am the kind of person that prefers to prove with facts so... Keep an eye on PreCog.me
Ps: i don't want to monopolize the thread so... If you have any specific questions or I can help out in any way, then please do ask
Ps2: I am eternally grateful to xda, civato and all the great ppl here...
Note3 N9005 running the insanely brutal [ShinTo Kernel] v028a005 yeaaaah!
For some interesting stuff why not head to PreCog.me
CekMTL said:
Hi!
First of all, I would like to thank you wholeheartedly for the interest in ShinTo Kernel and your time in testing it.
I am sincerely blown away by the spike in interest... Just wow!
In the space of two months I have moved twice across Europe and am currently getting settled in my new home (and waiting for the darn broadband).
I can assure you two things; ShinTo Kernel & PreCog.me are not a hobby.
They are my daily work focus (as in my daily job).
I could extend myself talking about the great projects I have but I am the kind of person that prefers to prove with facts so... Keep an eye on PreCog.me
Ps: i don't want to monopolize the thread so... If you have any specific questions or I can help out in any way, then please do ask
Ps2: I am eternally grateful to xda, civato and all the great ppl here...
Note3 N9005 running the insanely brutal [ShinTo Kernel] v028a005 yeaaaah!
For some interesting stuff why not head to PreCog.me
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Already a member at precog and get your email updates. I've been watching your progress and am currently test driving your most current version. :thumbup:
Thank you so much!
Expect v28a005 by mid next week if all goes well.
Note3 N9005 running the insanely brutal [ShinTo Kernel] v028a005 yeaaaah!
For some interesting stuff why not head to PreCog.me
CekMTL said:
Thank you so much!
Expect v28a005 by mid next week if all goes well.
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ooooh i can't wait! :highfive:
ShinTo Kernel v028a005 has over 50 updates/enhancements/fixes and it is compiled with the latest bleeding edge Linaro Toolchain GCC 4.9.2
I also fixed the cosmetic issue of not displaying the kernel name correctly in the TW settings app.
If there are no unforeseeable issues, it should be released around the middle of the week
CekMTL said:
ShinTo Kernel v028a005 has over 50 updates/enhancements/fixes and it is compiled with the latest bleeding edge Linaro Toolchain GCC 4.9.2
I also fixed the cosmetic issue of not displaying the kernel name correctly in the TW settings app.
If there are no unforeseeable issues, it should be released around the middle of the week
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And it runs smooth as silk....
Just to update you guys; there's a slight delay with QA, but it will be released this week, probably tomorrow or friday.
Thx!
Is Faux Sound compatible with this kernel?
B3311 said:
Is Faux Sound compatible with this kernel?
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Yes it is
ShinTo Kernel for note 3 has been released!
Can anyone post a cycle of their battery life with this kernel? And a benchmark would be nice too(I know what you'll say but please one would be appreciated thanks!). Thanks!
Graffiti Exploit said:
Can anyone post a cycle of their battery life with this kernel? And a benchmark would be nice too(I know what you'll say but please one would be appreciated thanks!). Thanks!
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Why?
Your setup and phone use is completely unique. Anyone else's battery life will not give you the slightest clue as to what yours might be.
Flash it and see for yourself.
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Can anyone post a cycle of their battery life with this kernel? And a benchmark would be nice too(I know what you'll say but please one would be appreciated thanks!). Thanks!
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Benchmarks are different from device to device. They're not a true statement about a kernels performance. I get insane battery, I get lightning fast speeds and I love using the kernel. This is a discussion of the kernel in this thread, that's why I started it. This is not an official Dev thread, that will come later from the Dev. Of you're interested in it, head over to precog.me and read the official kernel page. :thumbup:
B3311 said:
Why?
Your setup and phone use is completely unique. Anyone else's battery life will not give you the slightest clue as to what yours might be.
Flash it and see for yourself.
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Actually it can serve as basis. For example if that user is able to achieve 10hrs SOT, then at least I know that the kernel is capable of going that far. No matter how you force a kernel, if it has bad battery life then it can never achieve high SOTs. It actually us very helpful for one to post battery stats because I can then adjust and try to get close or even surpass the user's settings.
With all due respect, I think you are wrong in saying it won't give me the slightest clue of what the battery life of mine will be. It actually can tell a lot(if I'm doing things wrong or right). That's how users learn how to improve their devices by getting tips from others. And for that reason I'm refraining from flashing it because I have a very good set-up. I know I can go back just with flashing the stock kernel, but we all know that sometimes it doesn't really work 100%. "Something" gets broken somehow at a random chance.
Graffiti Exploit said:
Actually it can serve as basis. For example if that user is able to achieve 10hrs SOT, then at least I know that the kernel is capable of going that far. No matter how you force a kernel, if it has bad battery life then it can never achieve high SOTs. It actually us very helpful for one to post battery stats because I can then adjust and try to get close or even surpass the user's settings.
With all due respect, I think you are wrong in saying it won't give me the slightest clue of what the battery life of mine will be. It actually can tell a lot(if I'm doing things wrong or right). That's how users learn how to improve their devices by getting tips from others. And for that reason I'm refraining from flashing it because I have a very good set-up. I know I can go back just with flashing the stock kernel, but we all know that sometimes it doesn't really work 100%. "Something" gets broken somehow at a random chance.
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Fair enough, but I still disagree.
For example - on my last cycle I got nearly 8 hours SOT and about 1 day 13 hours on one charge. What can one infer from that? I say another user can infer very little, there are way too many variables.
I use Alliance ROM. This was my first cycle with this kernel. I use only 100% black wallpapers, system, desktop, and lockscreen are all black. One homescreen. Brightness about 40% except for videos. Tasker is set so that screen off=WiFi and data off, and I use a flip cover. I've deleted over 100 apps. I've removed about 25 autostarts with SD Maid, usually only use about 750 mb at startup. I never sync anything whatsoever. Two widgets, clock/weather and music. Location is always off unless I'm navigating.
I could go on, there's more, but I hope you see my point. And that's before the vast amount of kernel tweaks I've set up with Faux Clock, which I'll probably tweak further. And I haven't even mentioned my usage....
With further cycles I'll probably squeeze more juice out of it, who knows?
If you think this will give you any idea about your battery life, fine. But I can't see how it can.
As for benchmarks - a waste of time if you're comparing with another device, only remotely useful if you're comparing performance with different setups on the same phone, IMHO.
Hello, i am rooted with stock rom 4.5.10.
Can anyone suggest me a good kernel that could help with the performance of the device. or should i stick with the stock one.
Depends on your usage. If U want a even better performance is ElementalX a good one. Easy flashing process with AROMA options (ability to overclock)!
No such thing as best, just flash a few and see what you feel brings you the best performance
Hi, i am in the same case of you, i have flashed "simpleGX 1.11 kernel" to have performance and a really good battery life. And yes, it is very smooth and i stay 3 days with my battery charge..! for me it is a very good kernel for the moment. i think to try blue spark kernel but for the moment i am happy with SimpleGX kernel...
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Hi, i am in the same case of you, i have flashed "simpleGX 1.11 kernel" to have performance and a really good battery life. And yes, it is very smooth and i stay 3 days with my battery charge..! for me it is a very good kernel for the moment. i think to try blue spark kernel but for the moment i am happy with SimpleGX kernel...
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3days?? may be very light to moderate use?
Blu Spark is designed for performance. Boeffla for stability and Franco to extend battery life. Usually kernels are designed to provide something different than the stock kernel and the description at the top of the thread for the kernel should give you an idea of what the dev was trying to do. I honestly wouldn't recommend ElementalEx. It's a very vanilla kernel that is available for almost every device but they don't do much to optimize the kernel for individual phones. I use Blu Spark. Personally I think you are better off with kernels that are made for stock OOS.
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3days?? may be very light to moderate use?
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most 2 days and 20 hours of battery... with 6hours of screen time..
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No such thing as best, just flash a few and see what you feel brings you the best performance
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worst answer ever.
I did unlock/root/flash roms on 30-35 devices, for friends/family and myself.
And even if XDA members do not like ''best rom/kernel'' threads, its very usefull for a quick search, because i.e. my friend want simply a stable rom and I don't want to test every roms or read the thread's 200 pages.
Wihout pointing the ''best rom/kernel'' you might maybe help by pointing the cons and pros .
Here my reply for this thread :
After reading the Franco XDA interview, he was pointing the fact that there's not much work to do on kernel in general, because they are out-of-the box already good.
My first device was a desireZ, with froyo 2.2, back in the days, kernel works was badass, and make huge changes to the devices, but now, I agree that there's not much difference, at least for now, since this OP5 is crazy fast.
I do use Franco kernel, as per Franco's thread, he's stating better battery life. well, hard to tell , since he won't achieve 125% better battery life... It might go around 10%. Which is good, but hard to tell on day to day usage, since 10% is about my usgae precision time if I compare all my usage over each days.
So far so good, no cons.
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worst answer ever.
I did unlock/root/flash roms on 30-35 devices, for friends/family and myself.
And even if XDA members do not like ''best rom/kernel'' threads, its very usefull for a quick search, because i.e. my friend want simply a stable rom and I don't want to test every roms or read the thread's 200 pages.
Wihout pointing the ''best rom/kernel'' you might maybe help by pointing the cons and pros .
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Worst answer ever? I'll admit I could have shared my setup for OP to try as well, but other than that, "worst answer ever" is a bit dramatic.
XDA members don't like the "best ROM/Kernel" threads because of my original point, there really isn't a 'best', it is subjective to your needs/usage. A kernel I find to be an absolute beast in performance can end up being mediocre at best to you. And again, that all boils down to each user's unique usage.
Telling a user what works best for you isn't going to be as good as the user trying it out for themselves; getting that first-hand experience with a certain kernel will give that user a much better idea, and that's why I said flash a few and see what they like best (no need to flash every single one or read through 200 pages...).
Like I said, I admit I could have shared my ROM/Kernel combo originally to give OP a starting point, but that doesn't take away from my main point(s).
Anyway, I don't mean to get into a whole debate about this with you, a handful of users have already responded and hopefully OP has found a kernel they prefer.
For what it's worth, I've used both Lightning and Blu_Spark, both have provided me with excellent performance and battery life (On PureFusion).