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hi there,
i just bought g1 with tmobile in chicago,il so far i am getting just a little over 50KBites/sec download on 3g network. i am coming from htc fuze with att. anyone else see any problem in here??
Do you have full signal? If you brought the phone from T-Mobile you could always ask them what the problem is.
just find out something interesting ...
if you turn on airplane mode and then shut it off you data speed boooom to 235-175 KB/sec which is like a 3Mb/sec dsl speed at home !!! but after a little while it goes back to normal 50. looks like tmobile is throting the bandwidht
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Hey People, this is a non resolved issue, the last note posted in not accurate. I have been noticing my internet speeds are about half of what they used to be. have been doing many FCC app speed tests and they are half of what I was getting about 2 months ago. Back then I was constantly clocking in 1.0 to 1.5 Mbps and now all over the board, but best one was at 843, and am regularly in the 400 to 200 range.
This has also been confirmed via the Speed Test app also, getting basically the same number.
Just for confirmation sake, when tethering, i would go to 2Wire.com and run speed check on my laptop, would get the same numbers as the two apps are getting, 1 to 1.5 mbps a couple of months ago, and now in the 400 to 200 range.
Currently have G1 and have been bouncing ROMs, but right now running cyan 5.0.7 test 3, radio is 2.22.23.2, recovery is RA's 1.6.2 and danger spl. Currently living in Denver, CO.
First, let be smart here and not bash the sites or apps used, but the consistancy of their usage and their results. It does reflect that my speeds are half of what they used to be.
Also another note, the download and upload speed are very close to being the same, within a range of 100 kbps. Now we all know that even on cell phones, that should not be the case.
And I start the posting after having tried the airplaine thing, tried to even reboot, went into adv. task manager, shut off all apps, and services and combinations of such with no significant gain in speeds.
Anyone still experienceing the slowed internet speed.
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I have been experiencing about the same thing pretty much following the same time frame. Currently living in the DC metro area so I should be experiencing HSPA speeds.
Its a problem with Cyanogen v5.0.7.
That's the reason I'm still using donut.
So I noticed a huge drop in speed (as have most of you) with my general 3G network. I am in LA, so my 4G is lucky if you find it.
On my old TP before the Evo came on, I got 700Kb on a bad day, 1200 on a good day... so very usable.
I was getting similar speeds on My Evo for the first week. Now I am getting horrible speeds with 300Kb, and when things are slow (and they are often slow) I get 74Kb. What is really bad.
I didn't know if it was the Evo, the battery "tricks" I applied such as turning off "enabled always-on mobile data" so I turned it back on.
I am still getting bad results and about to call sprint.... when I decided to test my wife's Palm Pre... She is also getting poor speeds (300Kb when I checked), and told me she noticed a difference in the last few weeks.
Is the Evo too successful for Sprint? Did it actually effect the network? Or is this a glitch at Sprint that will soon be changed.
More importantly... What can we do?
my speeds are lower
Before I got me evo I had a mogul. My speeds were great at 1100kbs down and 600kbs up. Now after my upgrade my evo will only get 100 down and 60 up. I can't believe they can charge $10 extra since I can't even watch YouTube on the lowest video quality without being on wifi. I could do more on the internet with my mogul than the evo. I know the evo is not the cause its sprints network. Also apparently sprint has no plans as of yet to put 4g here in Colorado springs. I am point to return my evo if nothing changes before my 30 days are up.
my speeds were 1.82Mbps and went down to .63-.92 most of the day today. I just checked after reading your thread and my speeds are back to normal. You just have to wait it out. It wasn't just the EVO either it was my Hero also that got crappy speeds.
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my speeds were 1.82Mbps and went down to .63-.92 most of the day today. I just checked after reading your thread and my speeds are back to normal. You just have to wait it out. It wasn't just the EVO either it was my Hero also that got crappy speeds.
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What he meant was that the evo being launched and so many getting it caused the slow down on sprint's network. This was similar to when the iphone 3g and 3gs came out, att's network slowed down quite a bit. I noticed it right away when I was on att.
I actually get better speeds than my previous phone, hell I consistently get better coverage and speed then my friends g1 on tmo and my sisters verizon moto droid
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In SF, I'm getting around ~400-450 down, ~500 up..
(For comparison, the verizon incredible that I was testing last month was getting ~1100 down / 700 up)
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in socal.. 500 down, 500 up.
using a hero
Visiting my mom at the hospital in Oakland, CA on 3G I'm getting 2.2 Mbps down, 0.8 Mbps up.
@ Work Martinez, CA - 1.8 Mbps down, 0.6 up.
@ Home Vallejo, CA - 0.7 Mbps down, 0.5 up.
Been pretty consistant since the day I got the Evo.
I'm in Grand Rapids, MI & I've noticed a decline in throughput as well on 3 different android phones these last two weeks.
HTC Hero - 1.2Mb/S before about 2 months ago, last time I checked last week before I smashed it, it was ~700Kb/S
Samsung Moment - ~ 800Kb/s
EVO - 500Kb/S MAX
No 4G here yet. I think Sprint throttled things back a bit to save some bandwidth/money on 3G & to make a larger aparent difference between 3G & 4G. Also could be tied to a future plan of tiered service rates. The common consumer has no clue what kind of throughput they get, they just notice aparent speed & want more. Throttling back service before a tiered service rate initiative is a good way to entice mo monies from common folks wanting faster phone porn & unstuttering LOST reruns.
Update your prl.....in san Diego and I get 1.8 mbps down and 700kbps up
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Update your prl.....in san Diego and I get 1.8 mbps down and 700kbps up
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Update PRL from the phone PRL update? Or are you talking about using the VRZ PRL? I don't want to to the vrz hack because of the risk of roaming.
It seems like this issue always come out for big releases, and I'm usually...skeptical. However I'm seeing some differences lately....I compared my results to the Hero. Same location. Same number of bars. Ran the test throughout the day.
New 3g results on EVO
.43 Mbps/.30Mbps up. (only differs by about .2Mbps/.1Mbps throughout the day)
I was consistently getting close to 1Mbps down and close to .5Mbps up on my Hero.
My radio and PRL are updated.
There might be something to this at least in some locations.
EVO - 780 down, 320 up.
Touch Pro 2 - 2.1Mbps down, 268 up.
HUGE difference... and they're both using the same home agent. I think the radio hardware in the EVO is inferior as I've NEVER seen it get above 1.3Mbps, whereas by TP2 and Mogul but regularly run about 1.5 on average...
Not to mention the fact that my TP2 holds a wifi signal much better than my EVO... My EVO won't stay connected to my router if I walk outside... My TP2 holds it all the way to the mailbox (about 100 feet from the router). Though wifi speeds (I've seen 13Mbps) are much better on the EVO when you're practically sitting on the router.
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EVO - 780 down, 320 up.
Touch Pro 2 - 2.1Mbps down, 268 up.
HUGE difference... and they're both using the same home agent. I think the radio hardware in the EVO is inferior as I've NEVER seen it get above 1.3Mbps, whereas by TP2 and Mogul but regularly run about 1.5 on average...
Not to mention the fact that my TP2 holds a wifi signal much better than my EVO... My EVO won't stay connected to my router if I walk outside... My TP2 holds it all the way to the mailbox (about 100 feet from the router). Though wifi speeds (I've seen 13Mbps) are much better on the EVO when you're practically sitting on the router.
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Ah, so you suspect a similiar radio issue as the wi-fi as opposed to a bandwidth issue...I could see that (especially in response to the battery issues).
I'm not sure I would have really noticed it but I ran a few speed tests the past couple of days and they were all in the ****ter.
Getting 250-500 down and around 600 up.
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Ah, so you suspect a similiar radio issue as the wi-fi as opposed to a bandwidth issue...I could see that (especially in response to the battery issues).
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I have never seen such terrible speeds on a Rev A device... My area is blanketed in Rev A and my data card pulls 2.6/400 consistently so I know it has nothing to do with the network.
Between the 3G speeds (or lack thereof), the wifi issues, the 30FPS cap, and the battery life, that Samsung Galaxy S Pro is looking mighty nice...
Well I have been running tests all day as I prep to call Sprint. The variation is HUGE.
Mostly I am getting 200 to 500 down and 200 to 400 up with pings in the high 200
Then suddenly I got a pocket of time I got 1500 to 1200 down and 500 up with pings around 140
Then dropped again to 40 down and 100 up with pings near 600
I noticed on the tests that I did that are bad the needle on the speed test would hand and jump... it is almost like I was getting a bad signal that would be breaking up.
Basically this is really bad. I used to steam audio all the time on my old TP and now I can't because it has basically become impossible to listen to anything due to the poor bandwidth. I am paying $10 for premium service and it got worse... I am going to demand they refund me the $10 until they fix the bandwidth issue (we will see how THAT goes....)
Where are you guys conducting these tests? Don't use the speedtest app - its broken (it shows an 800 upload which is impossible - at least in my area). Speedtest.net from the phone will not give you proper latency and may or may not reflect the true speed.
testmy.net 25MB download and testmy.net 3MB upload are the tests I've been using.
In boise, id on the 3g network not 4g. I was using speedtest and the results have been pretty consistent for me when I get the same server but I'm not against using a different bandwidth test...
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Its just best for everyone to be using the same server to test on. Testmy.net has no problem handling my 50meg connection at home (tests at 62/19) whereas I have a hard time finding a speedtest.net server that works. I can tell you though, if you go to speedtest.net and run a speed test on the same server you were using in the app, your latency will be lower but your speed will be faster... That tells me the app is not reporting properly.
Also, speeds tend to peak and normalize after about 10MB... so the speedtest.net tests aren't as accurate as testmy.net would be.
4G drains my battery like mad; I can easily last a whole day + more on 3G/Wifi, but 4G practically kills my battery in a matter of hours?
OP, is there a point to having Ferraris and Hummers? I mean, they all drink fuel like a drunk drinking booze! I mean, I can easily last for the whole 3 weeks using a Civic or a Prius but Ferraris and Hummers basically kill my fuel tank in like a couple of days?
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4G drains my battery like mad; I can easily last a whole day + more on 3G/Wifi, but 4G practically kills my battery in a matter of hours?
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I think the real point of 4G is to use the phone as a hotspot for your laptop WHILE tethered to some power source, whether it's an AC outlet or the USB port of the laptop.
Even with the large battery drain, I still see 4G as useful if you're looking to download a lot of data quickly to the phone intermittently. You just have to be careful about turning on/off 4G as needed for those downloads. If 4G were available in my area, I'd be turning it on as I left the office to download updated podcasts for my ride home, then turning it off once the downloads were complete.
good point PoisonWolf.
I have been using 4G when watching the World Cup live on Sprint TV. So much smoother and better quality image over 4G.
I leave my phone plugged in when doing that though. I did a test once and it lasted almost 2 hours watching TV over 4G (very intensive and battery draining activity)
4G is nice to have for those times you need a speed boost.
I'm agreeing with the situational use. I've actually been really impressed with Sprint's 3G service. I'd have gotten this phone even without 4G.
I really on turn it on when im tethering
Properly managed, you should turn off anything you are not using. Especially 4G.
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I'm agreeing with the situational use. I've actually been really impressed with Sprint's 3G service. I'd have gotten this phone even without 4G.
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I am not at all impressed with Sprint's 3G. I'm currently averaging 0.5mb/s download speeds on my EVO via 3G. This is both near my home, and near my office, which are far enough apart that they're not using the same tower. (edit: I'm in the suburbs of Los Angeles - San Fernando Valley.)
There's nothing wrong with the phone, as I did manage a 1.2mb/s test on Friday evening. Maybe this suggests that there's just too much congestion during the day? Though at 5:30 AM this morning I was only pulling 0.6mb/s.
For comparison, side-by-side tests with my other devices gave these results:
Sprint EVO = 0.5mb/s
AT&T iPhone 4 = 1.6mb/s
TMobile Nexus One = 2.5mb/s
There's a whole thread on here someplace about how slow people all over the country are getting with 3G from Sprint. It's very disappointing, and I'm considering canceling my service over this. Paying $10/mo extra for 4G, when I don't get 4G or even acceptable 3G speeds just doesn't sit right.
I used to have a Sprint datacard for my old MacBook Pro, and Sprint rocked. Faster than AT&T on average with about 1.6mb/s as I recall, but I gave it up a year ago when I got a new MacBook Pro that doesn't have the datacard slot. Based on my experience with Sprint datacard, I had no reservations about getting the EVO even though there's no 4G in my area, but unless they fix this issue quickly, I'm history. I wonder if I could get Verizon to let me use the EVO on their network.
To get back on topic - 3G speeds aside, if you can actually get 4G service with the EVO, and can use it responsibly, the EVO must really rock your mobile data world. I got the Seidio extended battery for mine, and it does add a noticeable amount of battery life to the phone, so if you're a heavy 4G user and aren't hooked to a power supply, it might be a wise investment.
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I am not at all impressed with Sprint's 3G. I'm currently averaging 0.5mb/s download speeds on my EVO via 3G. This is both near my home, and near my office, which are far enough apart that they're not using the same tower. (edit: I'm in the suburbs of Los Angeles - San Fernando Valley.)
There's nothing wrong with the phone, as I did manage a 1.2mb/s test on Friday evening. Maybe this suggests that there's just too much congestion during the day? Though at 5:30 AM this morning I was only pulling 0.6mb/s.
For comparison, side-by-side tests with my other devices gave these results:
Sprint EVO = 0.5mb/s
AT&T iPhone 4 = 1.6mb/s
TMobile Nexus One = 2.5mb/s
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That's funny...because I live and work all around the San Fernando Valley as well. From Balboa near the 118 and 405 all the way to Calabasas near the 101; and I get 100-200 kilobytes per second on average... ? Never slow for me.. and consistant 150kb/s seem pretty damn good to me.
I hope we get our 4G coverage soon. :/
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I think the real point of 4G is to use the phone as a hotspot for your laptop WHILE tethered to some power source, whether it's an AC outlet or the USB port of the laptop.
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damn, that's gonna take one long power cord for my evo to reach to the end of my street, at the intersection with no trees. and at that point, i'm pretty sure i'd need another extra long power cord for my laptop as well.
i really wanted to use 4G as a cable internet replacement, but since i can't even get a connection outside of my house, muchtheless inside my house, i guess it doesn't matter that i'm in a "covered area".
I live outside of DC, and I routinely get over 2000kbps using the speed test app on 3g with a latency around 90. With 4g, I've gotten 4900kbps outside my house with 1 bar.
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damn, that's gonna take one long power cord for my evo to reach to the end of my street, at the intersection with no trees. and at that point, i'm pretty sure i'd need another extra long power cord for my laptop as well.
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Don't be ridiculous. "I'd need a long extension cord." LOL. How droll.
If you're at home or in the office, you have an AC outlet for both your laptop and your phone.
If you're in the car you have the DC outlet (ever hear of a car adapter/charger) for your phone - and if you need it, get an inverter for the car to get laptop AC out of the cigarette lighter.
If you're in Starbucks or the like, use the USB cable to tether the EVO to laptop. A modern laptop should be able to power both the EVO and itself for at least a couple of hours. If you're away from an AC or alternate power source for more than couple of hours, you're just gonna have to live without 4G. Big deal, get over it, or get a different device like perhaps Sprints MiFi or whatever they call it on their network.
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Don't be ridiculous. "I'd need a long extension cord." LOL. How droll.
If you're at home or in the office, you have an AC outlet for both your laptop and your phone.
If you're in the car you have the DC outlet (ever hear of a car adapter/charger) for your phone - and if you need it, get an inverter for the car to get laptop AC out of the cigarette lighter.
If you're in Starbucks or the like, use the USB cable to tether the EVO to laptop. A modern laptop should be able to power both the EVO and itself for at least a couple of hours. If you're away from an AC or alternate power source for more than couple of hours, you're just gonna have to live without 4G. Big deal, get over it, or get a different device like perhaps Sprints MiFi or whatever they call it on their network.
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the point is, i spend 75% of my time at home or in my office (located, conveniently or not) in the same structure. and i have no 4G service in my home or outside in my yard, even though Sprint swears i have coverage. but like i said, i can get 4G at the end of my street at the intersection where there are no trees.
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That's funny...because I live and work all around the San Fernando Valley as well. From Balboa near the 118 and 405 all the way to Calabasas near the 101; and I get 100-200 kilobytes per second on average... ? Never slow for me.. and consistant 150kb/s seem pretty damn good to me.
I hope we get our 4G coverage soon. :/
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Actually, those are EXACTLY the areas I'm talking about. Along the 118 out to Porter Ranch, and the 405 as far south as Sherman Way (Van Nuys Airport).
Also, did you make a typo with your speeds? 100kb/s is pretty damn slow, so is 150kb/s. I'm guessing you mean 1000 and 1500 kb/s, aka 1.0 and 1.5mb/s. I was reporting in mb/s as the app I'm running defaults to them.
Those are common speeds for me on AT&T and TMobile (higher actually, usually 1400 - 2000 kb/s), with Sprint EVO, since I started testing last week, only a couple of times over 1000kb/s, and almost always just in the 400-600 range. Pretty unacceptable when a different networks device right next to it is pulling 2-4x the speed at the same time.
Maybe we should hook up someplace and compare the two phones side-by-side to see if we get similar results. ;-)
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the point is, i spend 75% of my time at home or in my office (located, conveniently or not) in the same structure. and i have no 4G service in my home or outside in my yard, even though Sprint swears i have coverage. but like i said, i can get 4G at the end of my street at the intersection where there are no trees.
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Ah, okay, fair enough, but that wasn't clear from your post, and it wasn't addressing the issue I was in the post you quoted.
Your issue is that you can't get 4G at all where you're at (regardless of Sprint's map), whereas I was pointing out that, as the OP of the thread said, 4G eats battery life like there's no tomorrow. Unless you're tethered to an AC or DC power source for your EVO, you just need to be intelligent about when and how often you use the 4G service, since it clearly eats battery life rapidly.
I turned on 4G to see if there was a signal where I was at the other day and forgot to turn it off. Two hours later my unused phone was down to <50% battery charge. With the 4G radio off, I can go a full day and then some without a recharge with my normal use - which is pretty amazing compared to the other iPhones and Android phones I've used.
WiMax is going to be a frustrating thing for many until it's fully built out, sadly, especially with Sprint using it as a selling point on one of the best phones on the market right now. :-(
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Actually, those are EXACTLY the areas I'm talking about. Along the 118 out to Porter Ranch, and the 405 as far south as Sherman Way (Van Nuys Airport).
Also, did you make a typo with your speeds? 100kb/s is pretty damn slow, so is 150kb/s. I'm guessing you mean 1000 and 1500 kb/s, aka 1.0 and 1.5mb/s. I was reporting in mb/s as the app I'm running defaults to them.
Those are common speeds for me on AT&T and TMobile (higher actually, usually 1400 - 2000 kb/s), with Sprint EVO, since I started testing last week, only a couple of times over 1000kb/s, and almost always just in the 400-600 range. Pretty unacceptable when a different networks device right next to it is pulling 2-4x the speed at the same time.
Maybe we should hook up someplace and compare the two phones side-by-side to see if we get similar results. ;-)
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I get 100-200 kilobytes per SECOND. That's very normal for a 3G connection on any network? Correct me if I'm wrong. My buddies usually get around 70-120 kilobytes per second on their networks...AT&T and Verizon when we compare. They are usually jealous of my speeds [;
If you test results give you .5 megbits per second, then youre getting 62.5 kilobytes per second.
I think you have your data screwed up... .
The term mb/s means megabytes per second. (kb/s is kilobytes per second)
The term "mbps" refers to megabits per second. (kbps is kilobits per second)
You divide you're mega/kilobits per second by 8 to get your mega/kilobytes per second.
So if I'm getting about 150 kilobytes per second, then my speed would be 150x8= 1.2mbps....which definetely ain't bad on a 3G connection...
4G is nice, yes it does drain a lot of power but that doesn't bother me.
when i'm out and about 3G is powerful enough for my phone, i get good speeds on sprints 3G to be fine on the phone. When I tether i'd want more speed, so I turn on 4G but then it drains my battery. Magical solution, i'm tethering so i'll just plug my phone in to charge on my laptop, now i get 4G without the power drain, WOW!
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I get 100-200 kilobytes per SECOND. That's very normal for a 3G connection on any network? Correct me if I'm wrong. My buddies usually get around 70-120 kilobytes per second on their networks...AT&T and Verizon when we compare. They are usually jealous of my speeds [;
If you test results give you .5 megbits per second, then youre getting 62.5 kilobytes per second.
I think you have your data screwed up... .
The term mb/s means megabytes per second. (kb/s is kilobytes per second)
The term "mbps" refers to megabits per second. (kbps is kilobits per second)
You divide you're mega/kilobits per second by 8 to get your mega/kilobytes per second.
So if I'm getting about 150 kilobytes per second, then my speed would be 150x8= 1.2mbps....which definetely ain't bad on a 3G connection...
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Not that many people use Megabytes and Kilobytes for network transfer speeds they use Kilobits and Megabits for identifying network transfer speeds.
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I get 100-200 kilobytes per SECOND. That's very normal for a 3G connection on any network? Correct me if I'm wrong. My buddies usually get around 70-120 kilobytes per second on their networks...AT&T and Verizon when we compare. They are usually jealous of my speeds [;
If you test results give you .5 megbits per second, then youre getting 62.5 kilobytes per second.
I think you have your data screwed up... .
The term mb/s means megabytes per second. (kb/s is kilobytes per second)
The term "mbps" refers to megabits per second. (kbps is kilobits per second)
You divide you're mega/kilobits per second by 8 to get your mega/kilobytes per second.
So if I'm getting about 150 kilobytes per second, then my speed would be 150x8= 1.2mbps....which definetely ain't bad on a 3G connection...
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Okay, I'll correct you, since you're wrong. At least in terms of correcting my use of kb/s and mb/s.
I'm not sure how you're getting your speeds. Are you downloading files and timing them by hand, then doing the math to get the speed? Your results may be accurate, but your terms are incorrect.
All I do is use either Speedtest.net or Xtreme labs Speedtest apps, or hit one of the various speedtest websites. I'm just reporting the numbers that are displayed in the applications and websites I am using to check my speed.
Since I am just parroting the numbers off the tools I use, if I am doing it wrong, then the various speedtest apps and websites are as well. I doubt they're all doing it wrong after all these years.
It's always been my understanding that BITS are expressed with a small case b and BYTES are expressed with a large case B - a kb is kilobit, and kB is a kiloByte. Traditionally, also, if it's a "k" its 1000 (decimal) and if it's a "K" its 1028 (binary).
Also, there is no difference between the terms kbits/sec, kb/s, and kbps in terms of data rate transfers. They are all interchangeable. In this context, the "ps" is the same as "/s" - both are read as "per second". The small "k" stands for 1000 in decimal and the small "b" stands for "bits" as in a binary 1 or 0 (1/8th of a byte).
My understandings of all the above seem to be confirmed by Wikipedia's use of the terms in the same manner as I am: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Data_rate_units#Kilobit_per_second
which explains the following:
Kilobit per second
A kilobit per second (kbit/s or kb/s or kbps) is a unit of data transfer rate equal to:
1,000 bits per second or
125 bytes per second.
and further in the article at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Data_rate_units#Kilobyte_per_second
Kilobyte per second
A kilobyte per second (kB/s or kBps) is a unit of data transfer rate equal to:
8,000 bits per second, or
1,000 bytes per second, or
8 kilobits per second.
Anyways, I think you confused me when you used the terms kilobytes per second and kb/s interchangeably and stated you thought 150kb/s was great for 3G service in this post:
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...and I get 100-200 kilobytes per second on average... ? Never slow for me.. and consistant 150kb/s seem pretty damn good to me./
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and I focused on the 150kb/s part, which trust me, is not good for 3G, it's more like EDGE.
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So if I'm getting about 150 kilobytes per second, then my speed would be 150x8= 1.2mbps....which definetely ain't bad on a 3G connection...
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I think we're really hijacking the original thread here and getting way off topic, and it might be better to move to another thread for future responses re: 3G speeds, such as this one: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=707751&page=3 , but while I won't argue that 1.2mb/s isn't bad, it's not that stellar for a modern 3G network, either.
I routinely get 1.4 to 1.9mb/s on AT&T iPhones, and 1.8 to 2.2mb/s on T-Mobile Nexus One here in the San Fernando Valley...and I got comparable speeds to that on my EVDO datacard from Sprint before I canceled it last year. 1.2mb/s in the big city here is the minimum I would allow as acceptable performance, I know that Sprint has done much better in the past, and that the competition is doing much better in the present.
FYI - Since you mentioned speeds along the 118/405 earlier, I tested after getting off the 118 at Woodley Avenue from the 118 Fwy all the way down to Sherman Way this morning, I did speedtests at every other major intersection. The results:
Devonshire = 1534kb/s, Lassen = 696kb/s, Nordhoff = 941kb/s, Roscoe = 457kb/s, Sherman Way = 806kb/s. I didn't dual test the whole way, but at Sherman Way the iPhone 4 pulled 1871kb/s. In my office just now it's averaging LESS than 300kb/s. There is definitely something wrong with Sprint's 3G in this area.
Back on topic:
If they'd hurry their butts up and get 4G to Los Angeles and the valley, I wouldn't give a rat's a$$ what 3G was like. I bought the EVO for two reasons - the large screen, and the gamble that 4G would be in LA pretty quickly and that I could live with 3G until it got here. I can't live with 3G if it's 400kb/s - I might as well go back to tethering my old Motorola Razr for that kind of speed!
I wish I had the problem that the original poster did: the ability to wonder if 4G is worth the battery life it costs you!
Ever since AT&T launched its (limited) LTE network one concern seems to come up quite often in discussions: if you're on a tiered data plan you better watch out. The reasoning used is that with a dramatic increase in data speed you will likely run out of your allowance very quickly.
Now, perhaps I am completely misguided in my logic, but this fear simply does not add up. The amount of data you use is entirely dependent on your consumption habits. For example: if you send/receive 50 emails everyday, browse the web for two hours, and stream music for, say two hours each day, plus do your regular facebook/twitter interactions, then how being on LTE will result in greater data consumption then being on HSPA? Am I overlooking something here?
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When you see that youtube video, you might click on it and when it loads instantly in HD you'll keep watching when on a slower connection you might get frustrated and give up.
As speeds and convenience increase, we find ourselves doing more and more on our phones.
slick69 said:
When you see that youtube video, you might click on it and when it loads instantly in HD you'll keep watching when on a slower connection you might get frustrated and give up.
As speeds and convenience increase, we find ourselves doing more and more on our phones.
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Well, that is my point exactly; unless you begin to consume more you shouldn't be concerned about increased data speeds. It's perfectly possible to exceed your allowance even if you're on HSPA still.
AnyMal said:
Well, that is my point exactly; unless you begin to consume more you shouldn't be concerned about increased data speeds. It's perfectly possible to exceed your allowance even if you're on HSPA still.
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You can't ignore human nature though. People will start to consume more with increased data speeds.
Corporations don't ignore human nature either when promoting these speeds and the usage that accompanies them - they know that more people will sign up with increased data speeds.
Hey guys,
I've used Speedtest religiously to test both OTA data and WIFI since I bought my Epic. Recently (I believe since I went to a GB ROM) Speedtest comes up with bogus results (proven).
In fact, I get different results depending upon the ANIMATION QUALITY setting!!
ANIMATION QUALITY @ default: 12Mbit WIFI
ANIMATION QUALITY @ minimum: 18Mbit WIFI
speakeasy.net/speedtest result : 22Mbit (my fiber cap)
The 3g and 4g results have been equally hampered. I register on average 1/2 the BW with speedtest than I do with any other method, like speakeasy.net.
I've been rackin my brain for a couple of weeks regarding my crappy 3g speeds, and it turns out its actually Speedtest - no real change other than that program not functioning properly since changing ROMs/Kernels.
Just in case I might save someone a massive headache like I've been having ... there you have it.
Running Marcusant's Revival V1 and Samurai 3.3.0 60hz/250mhz GPU.
(It's a GREAT combo!)
Cheers, everyone. Happy holidays!
I always run it at minimum quality. It says in the settings section that it loses accuracy with higher quality.
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I think you're right, I turned the animation all the way to and my 3g readings are 7 times faster!
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zman0900 said:
I think you're right, I turned the animation all the way to and my 3g readings are 7 times faster!
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About a 50% improvement on mine with animation slider all the way to the right. Strange, as I'd hope one would have no effect on the other.
I think this problem started when I switched to a GB ROM. Hopefully an update will address this.
In the meantime, just browse to speakeasy.net/speedtest to check your BW.
You guys who chimed in also on GB?
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Tirregius said:
I think this problem started when I switched to a GB ROM. Hopefully an update will address this.
In the meantime, just browse to speakeasy.net/speedtest to check your BW.
You guys who chimed in also on GB?
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I think you can assume just about everyone is. But I seem to remember this being an issue with the app on all versions, actually.
Checking Http://www.SpeedMatters.org from both my phone and computer gave me accurate results. I know it's not as handy as an app, but it works!
Guys, keep in mind that numerous factors affect your bandwidth:
Bandwidth cap provided by ISP
Shared connection
Quality of connection to speedtest server
Number of hops to speed test server ("internet distance")
Occasionally the weather
Time of day (peak internet usage hours)
1. While some ISPs allow subscribers to exceed their rate plans, you will still be limited at some point by your ISP.
2. Cable broadband "shares" your connection to the ISP--more people in your area served by your cable ISP = less bandwidth for you, to a degree. Also, if someone else on your local network is streaming Netflix or downloading the latest patch for BF3 they will be hogging bandwidth.
3. "Quality of connection" can mean a myriad of things, including #4.
4. A "hop" refers to a router, gateway, switch, etc. that your data must be routed through. Each hop adds roughly a millisecond to your overall ping. The higher your ping, the lower your maximum achievable bandwidth will be.
5. Weather can adversely affect connections, especially wireless connections.
6. While the time of day in and of itself is not a factor, this affects when the peak loads on the internet will be. Generally, you will see higher, more stable test results during off-peak times, such as the early morning hours.
This is by no means an exhaustive list, nor did I go very in-depth with any of my explanations. For more, check the Broadband Reports FAQs. You'll have to dig around a little (check the DSL FAQs, there's a lot of general bandwidth stuff in there), but the place is a goldmine of broadband knowledge.
Thanks for that, however, in this case specifically, speedtest consistently falls short exactly the same amount. That is very good evidence that the issue is not due to "other" factors. My bandwidth as measured in browser has been super consistent also - always nailing my fiber bandwidth cap without fail.
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Guys, keep in mind that numerous factors affect your bandwidth:
Bandwidth cap provided by ISP
Shared connection
Quality of connection to speedtest server
Number of hops to speed test server ("internet distance")
Occasionally the weather
Time of day (peak internet usage hours)
1. While some ISPs allow subscribers to exceed their rate plans, you will still be limited at some point by your ISP.
2. Cable broadband "shares" your connection to the ISP--more people in your area served by your cable ISP = less bandwidth for you, to a degree. Also, if someone else on your local network is streaming Netflix or downloading the latest patch for BF3 they will be hogging bandwidth.
3. "Quality of connection" can mean a myriad of things, including #4.
4. A "hop" refers to a router, gateway, switch, etc. that your data must be routed through. Each hop adds roughly a millisecond to your overall ping. The higher your ping, the lower your maximum achievable bandwidth will be.
5. Weather can adversely affect connections, especially wireless connections.
6. While the time of day in and of itself is not a factor, this affects when the peak loads on the internet will be. Generally, you will see higher, more stable test results during off-peak times, such as the early morning hours.
This is by no means an exhaustive list, nor did I go very in-depth with any of my explanations. For more, check the Broadband Reports FAQs. You'll have to dig around a little (check the DSL FAQs, there's a lot of general bandwidth stuff in there), but the place is a goldmine of broadband knowledge.
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