There are so many version of Galaxy Tab. Currently I have T-mobile and I have the HD2 as my phone. Of course my HD2 is modded like crazy and it has gone through so many ROM's/NANDS with both Android and WP7.
I love to tinker with gadgets.
Anyway, can you please tell me which version of the Galaxy Tab should I get so that I can hack it and put in different ROMS on it to maximize its potential.
On a side note: I currently have the $15 250MB/month data from T-mobile.
What advice do you have in terms of getting data for the Galaxy Tab? Should I just replace my HD2 with the Galaxy Tab and use the bluetooth head set to make and receive calls?
I use the tab without a data plan and tether of my evo using wirless tether for root unlimited on sprint network.
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Is the T-mobile version is the easiest to hack?
Currently the TMO tab is seriously locked down in two areas:
1) TMO does not want you using a regular phone SIM in your Tab to get 3G data. They are filtering the Tabs by their IMEI number and will block all network access if you try to use a regular phone account - they want you to spend an additional $40 per month for a separate data plan.
2) The TMO tab has a crippled modem that will not allow voice through. If you flash a Euro ROM that has full phone capabilities, then the only modems that work for both voice and data are currently limited to EDGE speeds. (Rotohammer has created a partial solution that allows you to swap modems witout needing to connect to a PC, but you are still blocked by the IMEI filtering.)
Nobody has, as yet, found a clean complete solution to T-Mobile's restrictions - but the battle is not over yet!
Currently the best solution if you want to use the tab as a phone is to go 100% AT&T.
Alternatively, if all you want is data on your tab, each of the service providers has different levels of pricing and subsidies for their data plans - along with coverage and data speed.
The CDMA tabs come with 2GB internal memory, while the GSM tabs come with 16GB.
Other than that, you should look to balance total cost of ownership (data + device) against service quality. Each provider has a different emphasis.
Alternatively, you could wait for a WIFI Tab...
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woneill1701 said:
Currently the TMO tab is seriously locked down in two areas:
1) TMO does not want you using a regular phone SIM in your Tab to get 3G data. They are filtering the Tabs by their IMEI number and will block all network access if you try to use a regular phone account - they want you to spend an additional $40 per month for a separate data plan.
2) The TMO tab has a crippled modem that will not allow voice through. If you flash a Euro ROM that has full phone capabilities, then the only modems that work for both voice and data are currently limited to EDGE speeds. (Rotohammer has created a partial solution that allows you to swap modems witout needing to connect to a PC, but you are still blocked by the IMEI filtering.)
Nobody has, as yet, found a clean complete solution to T-Mobile's restrictions - but the battle is not over yet!
Currently the best solution if you want to use the tab as a phone is to go 100% AT&T.
Alternatively, if all you want is data on your tab, each of the service providers has different levels of pricing and subsidies for their data plans - along with coverage and data speed.
The CDMA tabs come with 2GB internal memory, while the GSM tabs come with 16GB.
Other than that, you should look to balance total cost of ownership (data + device) against service quality. Each provider has a different emphasis.
Alternatively, you could wait for a WIFI Tab...
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Thank you very much. That was really informative.
I was about to buy the T-mobile version from Craigslist becase it is selling a brand new one for $400. I was going to use it as a phone and using bluetooth earpiece for talking and calling.
However, having read your post, I think that I will not be able to buy it because I have T-mobile cell service.
That is so unfortunate.
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Is the T-mobile version is the easiest to hack?
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The hacks are identical for all gsm versions of the tab. The only difference is you have to select the modem that is appropriate for your carrier and region.
You mean to say you don't have WIFI on your Tab? Geez, and I thought us Aussies got it tough. Usually we get the **** deals but this time I'm smiling. Data and phone calls, 3G+and wifi. Now if we got a good data plan included by Telstra......
i was wondering if tango works on tmobile tab on wifi only with a bluetooth headset.
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I've got a version question, What would I need to do to get an ATT sim working on a T Mobile Tab, also would I be able to get voice and data, and at what data speeds?
Thanks.
1) Unlock the SIM
2) Flash a Euro ROM
You would have voice and EDGE data speeds.
(There are already threads detailing both 1 and 2...)
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1) Unlock the SIM
2) Flash a Euro ROM
You would have voice and EDGE data speeds.
(There are already threads detailing both 1 and 2...)
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If I use it on wifi only, without a sim will it still allow for wifi calling (tango) and would it be through build in mic or headset?
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Cannot speak for Tango.
I use Skype on WiFi via a wired headset and/or speakerphone. Signal quality Skype-Skype and Skype-phone is generally very good. I have not tried a bluetooth headset. (Note: By default, some of the US tabs will not pair with bluetooth headset.)
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Thank you for your quick reply and thorough response.
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My sister really needs a new phone and is with T-mob USA. I was telling her to get the HD2 when it comes out, and she really likes the phone but she doesn't want to pay for the added internet plan. When I had my Shadow (1st gen) I was able to use the t-mobile lower internet plan (t-zones?) and using proxy server info I was able to use the internet almost 100% normal. There were only a few apps that were odd.
What are the chances that since this is still a WinMo phone it will have that ability? Is this something that can be figured out before the phone comes out? Also, if it did work, would it access 3g data?
Thanks for any help/info.
Nick
When the HD2 launches it will have a required data pack just like all other windows, blackberry's and android devices currently do. If a discount is recieved on the device then the data pack (minimum $25/month) is required, paying full retail price is the only way not to have it. T-zones is no longer offered by itself for $5.99/month unless your plan is a grandfathered plan that supports it but would only be able to be used if the phone was purchased at retail.
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My sister really needs a new phone and is with T-mob USA. I was telling her to get the HD2 when it comes out, and she really likes the phone but she doesn't want to pay for the added internet plan. When I had my Shadow (1st gen) I was able to use the t-mobile lower internet plan (t-zones?) and using proxy server info I was able to use the internet almost 100% normal. There were only a few apps that were odd.
What are the chances that since this is still a WinMo phone it will have that ability? Is this something that can be figured out before the phone comes out? Also, if it did work, would it access 3g data?
Thanks for any help/info.
Nick
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i use tmobile in uk if the proxy box is ticked my mail dosent load.
T-Mobile USA now uses the device IMEI for data plans
The proxy trick does not work anymore on Tmobile USA, they now use the phone's IMEI number to verify that the phone is on the correct data package. It works for about 24 hours now then when you try and access the internet you are sent to a screen to add the correct data package.
Proxy internet for HD2 on T-Mobile
I have T-mobile with the $5.99 T-Zones. I used it on the DASH and am now using it on a Touch VIVA. If I buy the HD2 from T-Mobile with no contract are they still going to force me to get a data plan or will my T-Zones stop working. I want to keep my T-Zones and may have to get an ulocked phone.
NickPDX said:
My sister really needs a new phone and is with T-mob USA. I was telling her to get the HD2 when it comes out, and she really likes the phone but she doesn't want to pay for the added internet plan. When I had my Shadow (1st gen) I was able to use the t-mobile lower internet plan (t-zones?) and using proxy server info I was able to use the internet almost 100% normal. There were only a few apps that were odd.
What are the chances that since this is still a WinMo phone it will have that ability? Is this something that can be figured out before the phone comes out? Also, if it did work, would it access 3g data?
Thanks for any help/info.
Nick
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I'm currently with AT&T and about to switch to T-mobile when the HD2 comes out. When I spoke to the T-mobile rep., (trying to get him to set me up on the cheap data plans instead) He told me T-mobile can tell what phone you are using and know if it is on the correct plan. He also stated that if the phone is unlocked then you can trick their systems into letting you keep your old plan. Now again, I dont know if this is true or not, I am about to switch...hopefully this month, I'll find out then.
With AT&T, I have an old data plan (unlimited internet, 1500 text, 200 MMS) and I pay $19.95/month. they have never made me change my data plan and I am using the Tilt2. If you go through the priemer business website to upgrade your phone, they dont give you the $50 discount and you get to keep your data plan unchanged....all other channels force the upgrade with an updated data plan. Again, the only way around that is to buy your phone from someone else, unlocked, or have warranty dept. swap out your phone for a different model. My nephew has the $10 data plan and is now using the Tilt2 on it via warranty swapping out his phone for a different model (the Tilt2).
I know on the AT&T service you do get the 3g speeds, so I assume it will be the same for T-Mobile (but then again assuming may not be the best way to go). Hope that helped
I am pretty certain that my sister has a grandfathered in 5.99 T-zones package too. I am hoping that she can get it and use this way. The email not loading problem that adamo mentioned though doesn't sound good. Do the other internet based things work ok?
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I am pretty certain that my sister has a grandfathered in 5.99 T-zones package too. I am hoping that she can get it and use this way. The email not loading problem that adamo mentioned though doesn't sound good. Do the other internet based things work ok?
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from what I was told, everything should work correctly and at the correct speed, as long as the phone is unlocked. The cell phone service providers don't seem to really offer different speeds at different rate plans like the cable internet companies do.
I had not seen your message from earlier ... we posted at the exact same time. Thanks though for your input. I will let her know. It seems like it is worth a try. Worst case scenario, she has a great phone but she has to use Wifi to check her mail and such.
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I am pretty certain that my sister has a grandfathered in 5.99 T-zones package too. I am hoping that she can get it and use this way. The email not loading problem that adamo mentioned though doesn't sound good. Do the other internet based things work ok?
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every other site works u can download email via direct site.then i noticed o2 network has its proxy unticked so when i was using tmobile i unticked it.now i can download email auto.
there was on promotional offer in uk.£10 top up u get unlimited txt and web.i used it on my htc shift as modem for a few months tmobile has no complained about going over fair usage policy on web unlike other networks.
ok i have a simple question, has anyone been able to use their current phone sim card (Vibrant,G1) to work on the TAB to access 3G (i know it will not work for phone calls) or are you running the tab with a webconnect plan. some one advised to use the method below but i had no luck with tmobile, they kept insisting that i need a webconnect plan, currently i am running the tab via wifi. also a few people have gotten as far as the web.to.go site and no further using their existing phone sim.
There is a work around though... with voice enabled, you can call tmobile and ask for a tech support supervisor, open a trouble ticket and request an engineer to change your device ip range to that of a smartphone... then data and voice should work together. I had this problem on my aws version of the dell streak and it fixed it using unlimited voice and unlimited android data plans
or is this not yet possible? or can we only use the webconnect? i had asked the tmo rep if there was a way to add the webconnect to my current sim and they stated no, then after thinking about it, if it was possible would the webconnect even work on a standard phone (Vibrant,G1). this is really driving me up a wall.....
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at my local t-mobile store:
30-day return policy
Previous phone insurance carried over to tab
Even more plus unlimited plan was good to go on tab if you pay in full for the tab itself. That's what I did. Popped out my sim from my old G1 and popped it into the tab. No data. Only goes to the t-mobile site on 2g/3g. I'm heading back there tonight after work to find out what's going on with it.
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So I will find out tonight and report back.
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So I will find out tonight and report back.
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thank you...
what happened? could you make it work? could you use the card from your G1 in your Tab?
Guys,
I am seriously considering purchasing a Galaxy Tab to go with my Galaxy S.
My SGS already has a SIM card and as the Tab primarily won't be used outside of a Wifi area be that Home or Work and am unlikely to use the Tab as a Phone/SMS, I am wondering whether or not to bother purchasing a SIM Card to go with the Tab.
Percentage wise it should be something like 80% Wifi available.
Therefore, could you please let me know how you use your Tab and for those that don't use a SIM Card (be that for Data or Phone/SMS) do you find any restrictions?
Restrictions could be in the form of when the Tab is switched off (screen off only), as there is no SIM for any Data connection how do you find the Tab receives any internet updates.
When my SGS has it's screen switched off wifi is disabled and as such any data is sent through my SIM Card data plan. This keeps the phone updated be that email messages or App updates.
As such with no Data plan on the Tab how do you receive any email/App updates?
Beards said:
Guys,
I am seriously considering purchasing a Galaxy Tab to go with my Galaxy S.
My SGS already has a SIM card and as the Tab primarily won't be used outside of a Wifi area be that Home or Work and am unlikely to use the Tab as a Phone/SMS, I am wondering whether or not to bother purchasing a SIM Card to go with the Tab.
Percentage wise it should be something like 80% Wifi available.
Therefore, could you please let me know how you use your Tab and for those that don't use a SIM Card (be that for Data or Phone/SMS) do you find any restrictions?
Restrictions could be in the form of when the Tab is switched off (screen off only), as there is no SIM for any Data connection how do you find the Tab receives any internet updates.
When my SGS has it's screen switched off wifi is disabled and as such any data is sent through my SIM Card data plan. This keeps the phone updated be that email messages or App updates.
As such with no Data plan on the Tab how do you receive any email/App updates?
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Go into Wireless and Networks, WiFi Settings, hit the Menu button, Advanced, WiFi Sleep Policy, and choose Never. There ya go, WiFi stays on when the device is asleep. This should be the default on all Android devices, but it's not.
WiFi uses far less battery than 3G, even if left on while sleeping, and of course it doesn't burn your data plan.
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Go into Wireless and Networks, WiFi Settings, hit the Menu button, Advanced, WiFi Sleep Policy, and choose Never. There ya go, WiFi stays on when the device is asleep. This should be the default on all Android devices, but it's not.
WiFi uses far less battery than 3G, even if left on while sleeping, and of course it doesn't burn your data plan.
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Thanks... Okay, that's got rid of that problem.
Anyone else have any opinions on whether or not to use the Tab with a SIM Card?
I can justify getting the Tab but I can't justify buying another SIM Card.... unless the advantages outweigh the costs.
Get a 10buck data only card and leave it plugged in. If you think you're going away for a bit, pay 10 bucks to re-enable it for that trip and be done!
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Get a 10buck data only card and leave it plugged in. If you think you're going away for a bit, pay 10 bucks to re-enable it for that trip and be done!
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Don't think they do a Data card for that price in the UK.
You can get a £10 SIM Card from the likes of T-Mobile but it's still £10 every month regardless of whether you use it or not.
Hey I don't have a galaxy tab used to have an alas before it bricked. Anyway there is no need to buy a simcard just Google advisable.apk. Its a mod that allows you to establish an ad-hoc connection to pull internet from a mobile or computers ad hoc connection
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george1983c said:
Hey I don't have a galaxy tab used to have an alas before it bricked. Anyway there is no need to buy a simcard just Google advisable.apk. Its a mod that allows you to establish an ad-hoc connection to pull internet from a mobile or computers ad hoc connection
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Intrigued, I did as you said Googled 'advisable.pk' and the results came back..... Nothing.
Are you sure you have the name correct?
Beards said:
Don't think they do a Data card for that price in the UK.
You can get a £10 SIM Card from the likes of T-Mobile but it's still £10 every month regardless of whether you use it or not.
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Not so.
There are plenty of PAYG deals doing around that allow you to do.
For example -
3.
T-Mobile do a £2 per day deal which is quite good.
My personal favourite would be GiffGaff if there was any kind of O2 signal where I live.
EDIT - actually, my new personal favourite would be TMo 6MONTHWEB for £20, which gives you 1GB a month for 6 months for only £20!
As far as I'm aware, all of these are effectively "pay as you play" options. If you don't need to use the internet from one month to the next, just don't use the SIM, and when you need to ensure you have enough credit to buy an add-on/goody bag whatever.
Regards,
Dave
Beards said:
Guys,
I am seriously considering purchasing a Galaxy Tab to go with my Galaxy S.
My SGS already has a SIM card and as the Tab primarily won't be used outside of a Wifi area be that Home or Work and am unlikely to use the Tab as a Phone/SMS, I am wondering whether or not to bother purchasing a SIM Card to go with the Tab.
Percentage wise it should be something like 80% Wifi available.
Therefore, could you please let me know how you use your Tab and for those that don't use a SIM Card (be that for Data or Phone/SMS) do you find any restrictions?
Restrictions could be in the form of when the Tab is switched off (screen off only), as there is no SIM for any Data connection how do you find the Tab receives any internet updates.
When my SGS has it's screen switched off wifi is disabled and as such any data is sent through my SIM Card data plan. This keeps the phone updated be that email messages or App updates.
As such with no Data plan on the Tab how do you receive any email/App updates?
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Hi Beards
FYI, T-mobile US no contract Tab comes with a SIM card unactivated.
Wifi works just fine in this configuration. It also works without SIM card however you get a message Emergency calls only.
Cheers
I have a sim for my tab. $20/month Bell Flex plan is cheap enoigh and I can cancel at any time and just tether with my desire. Wifi at home but HSPA everywhere else. Once the roms start coming out ill unlock amd just use my telus sim with a BT headset for calling. Using the bell sim allows me to text from my GT and I love that option.
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I didn't put sim in my Tab at first, but now I got one and a tiny dataplan to go with it, since I mostly use wi-fi and work and home.
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Go into Wireless and Networks, WiFi Settings, hit the Menu button, Advanced, WiFi Sleep Policy, and choose Never. There ya go, WiFi stays on when the device is asleep. This should be the default on all Android devices, but it's not.
WiFi uses far less battery than 3G, even if left on while sleeping, and of course it doesn't burn your data plan.
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Really wifi uses less battery? So is there a way to fully disable 3g and use wifi only , thinking of just using a phone as a access point
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Really wifi uses less battery? So is there a way to fully disable 3g and use wifi only , thinking of just using a phone as a access point
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Airplane mode and then WiFi back on works.
I believe you can use the XDA Superpower app.
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Really wifi uses less battery? So is there a way to fully disable 3g and use wifi only , thinking of just using a phone as a access point
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Switch to GSM only which will leave the phone operational, or airplane mode with wifi on to completely switch off cellular radio.
Regards,
Dave
Interesting comments.
I was not aware you could obtain a SIM card with Data for such a cheap price.
However, it's nothing really to do with the money, I'm fortunate to be able to afford an additional card without even thinking of any financial consequences. I am though more interested in hearing how you use the Tab and how you get around the problems.
Having said that I know what will happen; I'll get the Tab and then end up purchasing another SIM Card with all the trimmings for something like £15 to £20 a month just for ease of use.
this is wierd i have it set to never sleep wifi but it seems like everytime the screen is off the wifi does sleep, i am using the modified wpa_supplicant to connect to my ad_hoc...
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I have a sim for my tab. $20/month Bell Flex plan is cheap enoigh and I can cancel at any time and just tether with my desire. Wifi at home but HSPA everywhere else. Once the roms start coming out ill unlock amd just use my telus sim with a BT headset for calling. Using the bell sim allows me to text from my GT and I love that option.
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how much did bell charge you.
i wanna get one without a data plan just out right.
what options do we have?
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how much did bell charge you.
i wanna get one without a data plan just out right.
what options do we have?
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Bell charges $649, but also requires you sign up for at least one months' service (minimum $20, but they bill for that), and there's the $35 service fee (which they may charge on the spot, or they may bill you for, or even waive).
Cancel the data plan as soon as you leave the store, you're still out $55+tax but have a month's service to show for it. Or keep it on for two months and get a $50 credit, which after taxes means you get those two months for free, and THEN cancel.
There are no other options, though you may be able to talk a Best Buy or Futureshop flunkie to sell you one outright with no activation, but that's very hit or miss.
Let me note: I am not a dev nor programmer.
With the similiarities of the P6800 and the Verizon 7.7, I threw together a rom w/ stock SCH-I815 samsung/verizon kernel using the P6800 frameworks and apps into the Verizon 7.7 and removed most bloat. The LTE/Verizon antennas aren't recognized by the device at all but everything else was working.
Now, you can't swap the phone.apk's around without the framework's else you'll experience FCs. So obviously I'll need to use the base stock apps and frameworks and go through the 2 framework files hunting about.
Has anyone else with the Verizon 7.7 taken a look into this?
I'm curious if you've made any progress on this?
Not yet, probably be a week before I even look through the files again. But I believe it's fully possible to get phone use
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i think you will need to find samsung modem for verzon networks, does verizon have a galaxy note or sgs2?
although your modem firmware probably has voice disabled, may have to find modem manufacturer and try to flash custom firmware.
good luck, wish you the best.
I'm happy enough using GrooveIP for google voice calling. What I'd really like is if we could activate the phone profile in bluetooth (or will that just come with enabling the proper phone part in the 7.7?).
As of now i can use GrooveIP and bluetooth to listen and speak, but it won't let the bluetooth device answer/hang up/transfer address book/show caller ID (on the Verizon LTE 7.7)
Doesn't verizon require some sort of signed telephony to work properly on their network
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Doesn't verizon require some sort of signed telephony to work properly on their network
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I got no idea but with the other packs it didn't detect the radio at all. This is keeping the vzw radio partition stock. I like the ideas and really wish the note was verizon as that'd help figure things out.
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just to confirm does this a sim slot? i thought someone said it did.
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just to confirm does this a sim slot? i thought someone said it did.
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It does for LTE but cdma service doesn't use sim
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Seeing as your data account won't have any provisioning for voice usage, even if you DID get a working modem and a modified framework to allow for phone functionality on the device, I doubt that you'd actually be able to made or receive a phone call due to Verizon's limitations at the account and provisioning level anyway.
Point is, it's a CDMA device, and thus your service is attached to the device itself, not the SIM card (except for LTE data). Basically, you can't just provision service to the SIM card alone, and then simply swap it into a different device. So if you got the modem and the framework working, and you called in to Verizon customer service and asked to provision your line for voice, they'll just be like "Umm, no... We never INTENDED for you to use that device as a phone, so no... You want a phone? Buy a phone. You want a tablet? Buy a tablet. You want to do both in one device? We won't allow that because that loses us money that we would be getting by having you either subscribe to two lines, or charge you extra to tether..."
There is a much simpler solution however.
Ditch ANY CDMA carrier in favour of a GSM carrier instead, preferably one that uses the same compatible frequencies adopted by the rest of the world, like AT&T (and MVNO's based off of AT&T's network), and buy the P6800.
The moral of this story is this: if you want the latest devices, with the best features, you're NOT going to find them in the north American market, EVER, at all, period; you're just going to find watered-down, gimped, bloated, and locked-down versions of the international models. You HAVE to import. If you're going to import, you HAVE to use a GSM service provider... That's just the way it is. It sucks, I know, but it is what it is.
I would have to agree, the GSM version would be best. It would be near impossible to make this happen. Of course if I was stick with one, I would try everything I could as well. I'd probably fail miserably and go for something like GrooveIP.
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Seeing as your data account won't have any provisioning for voice usage, even if you DID get a working modem and a modified framework to allow for phone functionality on the device, I doubt that you'd actually be able to made or receive a phone call due to Verizon's limitations at the account and provisioning level anyway.
Point is, it's a CDMA device, and thus your service is attached to the device itself, not the SIM card (except for LTE data). Basically, you can't just provision service to the SIM card alone, and then simply swap it into a different device. So if you got the modem and the framework working, and you called in to Verizon customer service and asked to provision your line for voice, they'll just be like "Umm, no... We never INTENDED for you to use that device as a phone, so no... You want a phone? Buy a phone. You want a tablet? Buy a tablet. You want to do both in one device? We won't allow that because that loses us money that we would be getting by having you either subscribe to two lines, or charge you extra to tether..."
There is a much simpler solution however.
Ditch ANY CDMA carrier in favour of a GSM carrier instead, preferably one that uses the same compatible frequencies adopted by the rest of the world, like AT&T (and MVNO's based off of AT&T's network), and buy the P6800.
The moral of this story is this: if you want the latest devices, with the best features, you're NOT going to find them in the north American market, EVER, at all, period; you're just going to find watered-down, gimped, bloated, and locked-down versions of the international models. You HAVE to import. If you're going to import, you HAVE to use a GSM service provider... That's just the way it is. It sucks, I know, but it is what it is.
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I move my SIM between devices all the time and have never needed to call VZ to provision the new device. Voice and data just work.
miiike said:
I move my SIM between devices all the time and have never needed to call VZ to provision the new device. Voice and data just work.
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I can CONFIRM the following:
I have a VZ tab 7.7 with 5GB data plan and I have a VZ Razr with voice/unlimited data plan.
Both are LTE devices and hence use (micro) SIM cards. In "My Verizon" even the tab has a phone number assigned to it's "line". A call to that number just rings but obviously nothing on the tab.
BUT...
Put the tab sim in the phone and YES it will ring if you call that number! Even TXT in/out works! I assume they will just charge me per txt and per min phone use BUT IT WORKS in a PHONE.
And the kicker is, the unlimited PHONE SIM also works in the TAB! I immediately get LTE data and can surf with the tab. Of course at that point calls and texts to that phone number are "ignored" by the tab's neutered modem.
Lesson learned:
IF there was a way to flash a modem, say for example from the Samsung Galaxy Nexus to the VZ 7.7 TAB, we would have a full supersized phone in our hand. Only downside, no earpiece. So only speakerphone or BT calls I guess.
Anyway, after a little more research I also found this very interesting article:
http://www.phonenews.com/verizon-affirms-unlimited-smartphone-sim-card-usage-in-hotspots-tablets-lte-ipad-20053/
Hope this helps bring a little light into the messy CDMA/LTE darkness
I have swapped my Galaxy Nexus SIM in my VZW LTE 7.7 numerous times. It works. I'd love to have voice on the VZW LTE 7.7, then I could possibly do it all on my tab. I'm no developer tho ;p
So, i hope this is an appropriate forum...
I have an att sim for a unlimited plan (tie in to DTV).
Of course they do not allow tethering (usb or hotspot). Now i was not using that particular number so i popped the sim into a Samsung Galaxy (sgh I897).
This is a 3g phone.
I, on a whim, turned on the mobile Hotspot (settings, wifi, mobile ap).
I have been using it for a week to get network on a windows 7 desktop pc.
Email, google docs, watching youtube, editing websites, watching The CW, watching Syfy.
No complaint from at&t.
I wonder if it is because the phone is old and reports in a way that is no longer monitored or maybe because it is 3g and they are not so concerned about that spectrum...
Do you all think it is a matter of time till they figure it out or did I find a loophole?
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You found a loophole there is no way they will be able to see what you used your data on, that would break there privacy policy.
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I tethered like this for years ... probably 10 years or so.
I only got a letter from AT&T this month.
I am wondering whether it has something to do with my new phone/new version of android (HTC One M9 running AOSP Candysix).
I always just tethered with the built in Bluetooth tethering.
As far as I can tell there are only two ways for them to tell:
1. Read the data, specifically headers, which would tell that the traffic is coming from a PC; this should/would be solvable by using a VPN
2. The OS passes on some kind of flag to the carrier. I read that old versions of android would use a separate APN/virtual device for tethering but I can't find this info on my phone (IP rules show, etc.)
any help would be greatly appreciated.