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Downgrading Froyo 2.2 to 2.1 Eclair

You might think i'm crazy, but i'm dependent on CoPilot Live for Android, a navigation app, and it doesn't work in 2.2.
So is there a way to go down to 2.1 again? (preferrably without rooting)
would it be possible to just take a "update.zip" from 2.1 and follow the same steps like i recovered to 2.2?
any input is appreciated

You can only go backwards if you've unlocked the bootloader.

Shouldn't he be able to use the signed release image in fastboot?

Nope, it wont let you go backwards.

Are you sure that it doesn't work? What if you connect your phone and download the original rom and use Fastboot to flash this rom would you need an unlocked bootloader?
Greez

Need to be unlocked.

AFAIK using a PASSIMG should do the trick, you'll have to go through the upgrade process too to get to 2.1.
SC

You cannot go backwards with a stock bootloader, how many times do I have to say it?

creepinshadow said:
You might think i'm crazy, but i'm dependent on CoPilot Live for Android, a navigation app, and it doesn't work in 2.2.
So is there a way to go down to 2.1 again? (preferrably without rooting)
would it be possible to just take a "update.zip" from 2.1 and follow the same steps like i recovered to 2.2?
any input is appreciated
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Does CoPilot not work at all, or is it just not available on the Market? If it's not available, you can find a phone that it works on and is rooted and do an "adb pull" of the application file, then place the file on your phone's SD card and install with a task manager.

ScaredyCat said:
AFAIK using a PASSIMG should do the trick, you'll have to go through the upgrade process too to get to 2.1.
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See. That's what I was thinking. I thought the signed image would just flash all contents, regardless of the version. . .that's how we gained root on G1s (flashed down to rc29). Pretty sure it related the radio too.

Mi|enko said:
See. That's what I was thinking. I thought the signed image would just flash all contents, regardless of the version. . .that's how we gained root on G1s (flashed down to rc29). Pretty sure it related the radio too.
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We don't have an NBH file like the RC29 file was. Until you unlock the bootloader, you can only flash the phone using the stock recovery, and it has to be a signed update zip, and it won't let you go backwards.

creepinshadow said:
You might think i'm crazy, but i'm dependent on CoPilot Live for Android, a navigation app, and it doesn't work in 2.2.
So is there a way to go down to 2.1 again? (preferrably without rooting)
would it be possible to just take a "update.zip" from 2.1 and follow the same steps like i recovered to 2.2?
any input is appreciated
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I have the same concern too with 2.2 and CoPilot. The CoPilot guys said they are currently working on a fix, so I would just wait a bit longer.
If you need GPS right away, then in the meantime just use the Google Maps Navigation or Brut.all's latest version of the hack that works for non-US and non-UK countries.. works fine in Canada for me.

So there's no way to go back to 2.1 at all? Cause that's definitely something I want to do. My battery life (since having 2.2) is HORRENDOUS. Absolutely terrible. I can't deal with it right now.

You have to unlock the bootloader to go back.

Rusty! said:
You have to unlock the bootloader to go back.
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Any chance you can tell me how to do that? Does that involve rooting?

No, but it is a prerequisite of rooting.
There's a bunch of guides on here though, can explain it miles better than I could.

itslinx said:
Any chance you can tell me how to do that? Does that involve rooting?
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Do a search there is a tut.
AND I AM BACKING HIM UP...FOR THE LAST TIME YOU HAVE TO UNLOCK THE BOOTLOADER TO REVERT BACK TO 2.1

Thanks to both of you.

For everyone's information, the latest version of copilot also does not work with CM5.0.7 on Dream, however an older version, 8.0.0.606 *does work*. In case the same glitch is hitting them both, you might consider trying the older version with 2.2.
Also, please post the "logcat" for when it crashes.

Is there truly NOBODY interested in trying this?

[Q] Help needed debranding Wildfire

Hi,
I'm getting ready to debrand my Wildfire, but have a few questions first.
So the steps are:
1. Make a GoldCard using GoldCard Tool v0.0.5 over at MoDaCo.
2. Download the latest ROM. Is this it?
RUU_Buzz_Froyo_HTC_WWE_2_22_405_1_Radio_13_55_55_24H_3_35_20_10_release_160191_signed.exe
Then what do I do?
Also, will this just debrand the phone so it will be exactly the same as if I bought the phone direct from HTC and put my SIM card in? Will I get updates to the Android firmware as soon as HTC release them?
I'm not worried about rooting. I just want to remove the branding to improve the speed of the handset.
Thanks in advance for any help.

Ok, so I managed to debrand the phone using RUU_Buzz_Froyo_HTC_WWE_2_22_405_1_Radio_13_55_55_2 4H_3_35_20_10_release_160191_signed.exe and everything seems fine.
One small problem though. If I go into the Software Info screen it says Android Version 2.2.1 and according to Wikipedia the latest stable version is 2.3.1 so I would have thought that my phone would update to the latest Android software automatically, but if I go to System Software Updates it says my phone is up to date.
Am I missing the point or should a debranded Wildfire update to the latest version available?

2.2.1 was released several months ago, but, it is only being available now. Its unlikely 2.3.1 will ever be released for the Wildfire by HTC.
A debranded phone also depends on the updates provided by the parent company (In this case, HTC), and, its totally upto them whether to provide 2.3.1 or not, and, as I said before, that scenario seems extremely bleak. (Cyanogenmod 7 being developed will bring 2.3.1 to Wildfire, but, it is not 'official', not that it matters)
Welcome to the world of Android Fragmentation.

Ok, thanks, 3xeno, for clearing that up. One more question; will my phone now automatically receive any updates HTC release?

Also, I've noticed that wifi tethering no longer works since I debranded. Is there any way around this?

is it just the wifi tether or the whole wifi?
did you accept and over-the-air update?
an over-the-air update killed the wifi on my desire and i had to reinstall the latest ruu using the goldcard

cakes? said:
is it just the wifi tether or the whole wifi?
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Just the tether. Connecting to my wireless network at home works fine.
cakes? said:
did you accept and over-the-air update?
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No, the only update I did was using the RUU with a goldcard.

I contacted HTC about the wifi tethering and their workaround below worked for me.
HTC said:
We are aware that in specific circumstances this issue may appear. We are working on a fix to push out to customers very soon, however in the meantime we have a temporary work around for you. Simply, while your phone is connected to your PC with Internet transfer selected, toggle Airplane Mode on and off, and you will be able to share your internet again.
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That's nice, wasnt aware of it.
Cheers

? about sprint id and froyo

whats so special (or unspecial) about having a sprint id? i mean i've read about but will it be mandatory for our phones? also i already have 2.2.1when they first sent it out...well i downloaded it via samsung's website with the sd card/update.zip file and its working great for me-no issues at all. i'm also rooted with the One click root and recovery for the epic 4g V2.55 with clockworkmod redirector that i got from this site. will i get this update pushed to my phone and if i do will i have to update?? i had great luck and success with this version of froyo and well if its not broken dont fix it. i might download and save it to my comp just in case it gets really good reviews then i'll put it on my phone. any thoughts, ideas, and/ or suggestions?

If I understand correctly, as long as you have the official rom from Samsung, regardless of rooting, you should still be able to receive official updates, although those are few and far in between, lol. I'm not expert but if I'm wrong, someone please correct me
As far as Sprint ID goes and all of that other jazz, I like having all that crap out of my phone. After reading about the Carrier IQ buried within the phone, I don't trust any sort of Sprint stuff in my phone, especially if it's draining my battery just being idle and hidden.
So...as your question goes, I have no idea, I just wanted to give you my 2 cents on stuff

Sprint ID is just a way for them to bundle apps together. It seems like an okay idea for new android users, but I pretty much know what apps I will and won't use and don't really want them to add extra junk I don't need.

will i have to use it? i want to customize my phone my way not sprints ideas of what my phone should look like. if it installs fine but i wont use it

MBM7881 said:
will i have to use it? i want to customize my phone my way not sprints ideas of what my phone should look like. if it installs fine but i wont use it
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no u dont,
in fact you can delete it the system apk if you are rooted or use a custom rom which im sure the will all have it removed..

Yeah Sprint I'd is junk. You can remove it.
Sent From My Evo Killer!

will i still be able to use the one click root that i've been using on this new update? sorry for the questions i'm just trying to soak in the info. also will there be an option for a manual update with the sd card or will it be just OTA??

Assuming you are rooted, simply open up Root Explorer and navigate to the following folder:
system/app
Locate the file called W_Installer.apk and either delete it or rename it. This puts Sprint ID where it properly beongs, in the **** can. Make sure you do this before you click on the Sprint ID icon or all bets are off.
If you clicked the ID icon then you have an opportunity to get up close with your OS because it will be a royal PITA to ditch ID after the fact. Alternatively you should consider ODIN to stock and start over again (recommended).
Having played around with ID you might like it if your a total noob about android apps. Make sure you really read the licensing agreement! BTW, once you click on the ID icon you are committed to either take a basic ID or one of the other more specialized ID's. There is no other option once you click the installer icon!
Sent from my SPH-D700 using Tapatalk

MBM7881 said:
will i still be able to use the one click root that i've been using on this new update? sorry for the questions i'm just trying to soak in the info. also will there be an option for a manual update with the sd card or will it be just OTA??
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Should still work, but no guarantee since we don't have it to try yet. Best bet is to wait a short period of time after the release of EC05 for a dev to add root access to the stock ROM, then you can just ODIN without any issues or fear that you will lose root and not gain it back easily =)
Epic 4G on Tapatalk

sprint ID has one benefit.. you can get rid of nascar alot easire with the clean ID lol

i do have a question about unrooting. i'm rooted with the One click root and recovery for the epic 4g V2.55 with clockworkmod redirector. i was researching/ reading that i can still receive ota updates if i've never installed any roms, kernals, etc and if i never deleted any bloatware. is this true? the only thing i did was root my phone to basically get shootme to work (sad but true...i heart that app). i've left everything else as is. now i am on the once official release of froyo but i got it via samsung's website and used the sd card/ update.zip file method. sprint told me that i could still receive the ota of the new froyo even though i have the "un"official version they released. what i didn't tell them was that i rooted my phone. so that's my question...can i still get the ota if i'm rooted? also if we are able to update to the EC05 froyo can i use the sd card/ update.zip file method again? do i have to delete any file or files from my sd card ie. the EB13 zip file and the clock work mod file that was created on my card when i rooted? thanks for all the help!

sprint id will allow us to be like the borg until google android 3.x for phones arrive. that 3.x version will outlaw all custom interfaces so that their will be a common user interface. a common user interface will be awesome. imagine using any android 3.x phone and the experience is the same. I am suprised that sprint has not done this with htc, but htc has their own interface for windows mobile 6.x and android....
i cant wait for htc to run i-os device. i think that apple should license i-os and mac os to others... more money in it....

Rooting With The 2.3 O.T.A. Update

For everyone who's been wondering and asking,
As of right now there is NO WAY to root your phone if you accepted the 2.3 Gingerbread OTA update and there is no way to revert back to 2.2.
For all the people who have accepted it, you are stuck with a non-rootable phone until a dev can produce a new root method.
With that being said, temp-root is also NOT available.
Also, flashing anything like a different ROM or a new kernel is NOT possible at this time.
If you accidentally updated or just got the phone from Sprint, you are out of luck for now.

thanks for the info. i have been waiting to update because i suspected as much. For all those that updated to 2.3, is it awesome????
Sent from my PG06100 using XDA App

How long did it take for 2.2 to be rooted? Hopefully 2.3 should take the same amount of time/less time.
-CM7 ADR6300

Caiaphas said:
there is no way to revert back to 2.2.
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The old official RUUs don't work on the phone?

x99percent said:
The old official RUUs don't work on the phone?
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Nope, they don't.

Lancerz said:
Nope, they don't.
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Any more of an explanation than that? ...like the error message you get?
People had to RUU back to an older version of Froyo when the latest update plugged up what was the latest root exploit, and that old RUU always worked without a problem. It would be a shame if HTC/Sprint didn't "allow" people to revert back to the older OS.

I think the error code was error 170 when running the RUU, but I have tried all the ways just like everyone else and none of them work.

dpwhitty11 said:
How long did it take for 2.2 to be rooted? Hopefully 2.3 should take the same amount of time/less time.
-CM7 ADR6300
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FOREVER!!!! At least it felt that way. More people should have the phone now so shouldn't be too long.

Lancerz said:
I think the error code was error 170 when running the RUU, but I have tried all the ways just like everyone else and none of them work.
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I would guess that booting into the bootloader to load the old Froyo RUU would still work. I always thought the RUU was looking for the proper phone, regardless of its firmware/OS versions.

Nope, in order for a ruu to run, the phone has to have the same or older hboot
Sent from my PG06100 using XDA App

I wish it was that easy because I forgot how much the GPS sucks on sense roms. Got a trip out of town coming up this weekend also, grrrr.

Lancerz said:
I wish it was that easy because I forgot how much the GPS sucks on sense roms. Got a trip out of town coming up this weekend also, grrrr.
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Really? I always thought Sense was great, but AOSP roms sucked at GPS.

Just used the gps in the 2.3 rom and it worked out great. It was a short distance though so might need more testing fyi

I think the GPS on sense (stock at least) tends to take a little longer to lock on, that's all.
Hopefully this gets rooted soon since I've got to send my current phone back in a couple of days, and it wouldn't surprise me if the new one has the update already

danaff37 said:
Nope, in order for a ruu to run, the phone has to have the same or older hboot
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So is this "170" error seen in the RUU program or on the phone itself?
Forgive me if I'm way behind the ball on this: The Froyo RUU contains a "rom.zip" that looks like it could simply be renamed to PG06IMG.zip and flashed from the bootloader.

x99percent said:
So is this "170" error seen in the RUU program or on the phone itself?
Forgive me if I'm way behind the ball on this: The Froyo RUU contains a "rom.zip" that looks like it could simply be renamed to PG06IMG.zip and flashed from the bootloader.
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I don't know bout that error but when I tried twice to ruu my wife's phoneI think the error was 104 bootloader not new enuff something like that.

Well when you run the RUU it goes through all the motions like its going to be successful. Then it reboots into the bootloader and you get the all black HTC screen on your phone while its updating. The RUU on your pc screen is at the part where it says updating your rom image may take 10 minutes etc. Then you get the error [140] Bootloader version error. "The rom update utility cannot update your Android phone, please get the correct ROM update utility and try again."The error [170] is when it doesnt find your phone connected to the usb.

This should be done uploading in about 3 minutes. Rename to PG06IMG.zip, place it in the root of your SD card, and boot up in the bootloader. If it doesn't work, I'll have another to try tomorrow.
BACK UP YOUR DATA/APPS/CONTACTS FIRST (I recommend using Titanium Backup, SMS Backup & Restore, and Call Logs Backup & Restore... and you should be syncing your contacts to a google account)
http://www.4shared.com/file/ADnrxUXB/Stock-Froyo-ROM-1176511.html

I'll give it a try now
Edit: Nope, that doesn't work.

great.
i guess i am stuck with this buggy 2.3 rom until a root solution is found and i can get this crappy rom off my phone. i am tired of the apps not working. locking up & same with the OS.
do the world a favor and steer clear of the RUU 2.3 rom. dont be stuck like the rest of us with a rom we cant do anything with.

[ROM] Official OTA 1.70.605.0 Rooted, Deodexed, Busybox, Debloated

Since I didn't see this yet, and I'm not a fan of the bloatware in the RUUs are they come from verizon, I decided to take what was released so far and remove the stuff I didn't like.
Original Thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1160374
Credits:
Jcase/AndroidPolice - original RUU for OTA
Retrokid223 - rooted update zip
Features:
1.70.605.0
Rooted/busybox
DeBloat:
AdobeReader
Bloackbuster_htc
CityID
HTCSetupWizard
FlashPlayer
HtcTwitter
Kindle
NewBayVault
QuickLookup
QuickOffice
SetupWizard
SlackerRadio
TuneWiKi
VCast
VZNav
VZW_BitBop
VZW_Golf
VZW_Rhapsody
VZW_RockbandStub
Stock removed only in second download
Notes:
Based on original thread, until source is released for this kernel custom kernels will NOT work! You also need the official MR2 radio, the download link can be found in the original thread: Radio/Full rooted ROM
Anything else that I left in that someone wants removed, just mention here, I can tweak it again and re-upload later.
MD5: d0d6b12ab92b9d1df850062910a5ff53
Download debloated: http://www.megaupload.com/?d=YQE752W7
Updated (Removed Stock.apk)
MD5: 5c7fa91d4bdda9cd06b3807003cfba2f
Download deboated (no Stock.apk): http://www.megaupload.com/?d=LK5M59C3
Updated to include zip to put Peep app back into the system
(First time ROM post for me, usual disclaimers apply: not responsibile if your phone dies and/or develops a complex and wants to take over the world, flash at your own risk - that said I have made sure it works by offering up my own thunderbolt for testing!)

Is there any way you could rip the desk landscape app that was included in the new update?

krnsushiman said:
Is there any way you could rip the desk landscape app that was included in the new update?
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Got a screen shot to show me the app in question? Not sure what you are referring to.

Well I'm not too sure because I'm on Gingeritis 3D but on the bottom of the software update page (http://www.engadget.com/2011/07/09/verizon-pushes-latest-thunderbolt-update-solves-reboot-issues/) it says there is a thunderbolt desktop cradle app

Ok I apologize I guess I'm confused on the differences between this rom and http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1160374

dms76 said:
Ok I apologize I guess I'm confused on the differences between this rom and http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1160374
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That link has the rooted version of the update. This one removes the VZW junk as stated in the OP.

jdk2 said:
That link has the rooted version of the update. This one removes the VZW junk as stated in the OP.
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Oh crap I feel like an idiot I looked at the list for the longest time. It says features and lists a VZW stuff under it. I completely glanced over the wording "debloated". Now I'm much less confused since i seen the word!

Haha no worries, ya the link u mention is what I source from, just ripped out all the Verizon stuff, and some of the other annoying apps that most time drop. Other than that, the system is exactly the same as the Rom you linked.
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mikalem said:
Haha no worries, ya the link u mention is what I source from, just ripped out all the Verizon stuff, and some of the other annoying apps that most time drop. Other than that, the system is exactly the same as the Rom you linked.
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I downloaded the other link last night and just pulled everything using root explorer. Is there really wouldn't be much of a performance difference or then the bloatware correct?

I can not update or install anything from the market. Is anyone else having similar issues?
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dms76 said:
I downloaded the other link last night and just pulled everything using root explorer. Is there really wouldn't be much of a performance difference or then the bloatware correct?
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The only difference is some of the app apks are removed, and will not start (some of them have background services that put a little extra stress on the system).
It's the same kernel however, the battery life is much better on the custom kernels - hopefully the source will be released soon for this cut and imosyon/adrynalyne can do something more with it to get battery life back up.

gener1c said:
I can not update or install anything from the market. Is anyone else having similar issues?
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Did you do a full wipe and install the radio from the linked page? I didn't put step by step instructions because I figured by this point that would be pretty spelled out. If I need to, I can update the OP with more explicit instructions.

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Did you do a full wipe and install the radio from the linked page?
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I did a full wipe, and this is not the first time the market acted up for me. It use to do it on my Eris, Dinc and now the thunderbolt. But I can install through the website which makes this just strange to me. I was using Flyweight Final with the 2.5 radio and had no issues but updated to current radio that came with the official MR2 update. Right now it doesn't matter what radio or rom I use I can not download from the android market on my phone.
Any ideas?

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I did a full wipe, and this is not the first time the market acted up for me. It use to do it on my Eris, Dinc and now the thunderbolt. But I can install through the website which makes this just strange to me. I was using Flyweight Final with the 2.5 radio and had no issues but updated to current radio that came with the official MR2 update. Right now it doesn't matter what radio or rom I use I can not download from the android market on my phone.
Any ideas?
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Hmmm.... only thing I can think of to check is a flaky mobile data connection if you are using that...... if you have it available see if you can link your thunderbolt to a known WiFi spot with the new OTA radio and access the market from there. I don't think it's software-based as I'm currently running the exact same rom on my phone and can get to the market in both WiFi and mobile data situations.

Good luck trying to use MMS on this. I'm working on a safe and useful debloat and to do it properly, it takes some time. I'll have it posted soon enough.

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Good luck trying to use MMS on this. I'm working on a safe and useful debloat and to do it properly, it takes some time. I'll have it posted soon enough.
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Didn't mean to step on your parade, but MMS works just fine with it.

mikalem said:
Hmmm.... only thing I can think of to check is a flaky mobile data connection if you are using that...... if you have it available see if you can link your thunderbolt to a known WiFi spot with the new OTA radio and access the market from there. I don't think it's software-based as I'm currently running the exact same rom on my phone and can get to the market in both WiFi and mobile data situations.
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Market seemed to fix itself. I have no clue how either.
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mikalem said:
Hmmm.... only thing I can think of to check is a flaky mobile data connection if you are using that...... if you have it available see if you can link your thunderbolt to a known WiFi spot with the new OTA radio and access the market from there. I don't think it's software-based as I'm currently running the exact same rom on my phone and can get to the market in both WiFi and mobile data situations.
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I was having the same issue with my wife's Tbolt going from MR2 radio and Flyweight to this debloated OTA and radio. Gmail, browser, etc worked fine, but Market wouldn't download squat. Wound up restoring her nandroid of flyweight and left her on the OTA radio.

Veridor said:
I was having the same issue with my wife's Tbolt going from MR2 radio and Flyweight to this debloated OTA and radio. Gmail, browser, etc worked fine, but Market wouldn't download squat. Wound up restoring her nandroid of flyweight and left her on the OTA radio.
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My ThunderBolt did the same thing for me with the non-Debloat that Jcase/RetroKid provided (again which none of these updates have some of the features listed on the official support PDF from Verizon)
MyMarket wouldn't even show the ThunderBolt in the account settings/devices list
it was just, gone, I synced it 3 times and still it didn't show up, i tried to download stuff, couldn't, so i was angry enough about the problems i started with and just flashed my MR2 nandroid from back in June and i'm back to normal.
this update was NOT ready for primetime, nor does it have the desktop app, or new App menu with the tabbed browsing, the same menu found on the Incredible 2 (which is Sense 2.1) when I confronted the devs about the rom not having some of those features they called me a liar and said well that was a Verizon typo, this update just fixes the reboot issues that is all " SO I have made a promise to myself to never deal with those bung-holes again. I absolutely hate Devs that think there either king of everything in this area or they think they can remove stuff and people won't notice or they can edit anything they wish and you have to put up with what THEY want. alot of good features and apps are lost that way.
anyway, that ends my rant
maybe i'll try this one but since its also provided by jcas/RetroKid I don't expect it to be any different...

anyone finding difference btwn this and bamf 1.8.6?