[Q] How to backup my current state (ROM) - HD2 General

Hello,
Wonder if you could help me with this:
I have a brand new stock LEO (512mb version). I would like to flash to WP7, but I would like to have the option to revert to exactly the same state as now (for warrenty).
My rom is a custom Orange Israel ROM, which I doubth will be available for downloading, so is there a way to back it up now so I could reflash it later?
Is there something like NANDROID for leo?
Also, what does this says to you:
"boots WPH from nand"?
Does WPH means windows phone? does NAND means that backup solution for android? what does it have to do with booting?
Thanks

1) You cannot dump your original ROM as backup
2) Please check here if you find your original ROM: Click!
(Since you didn´t mention the version, I couldn´t check)
3) Ask Orange if there is a download link for your ROM
4) Yes, there are Android NAND ROMs for HD2, check the HD2 Android section
5) WPH most probably means Windows Phone 7, another option for HD2
6) NAND means the internal flash memory of your device, where your ROM is stored.
After first and secondary bootloaders, this is where the phone loads the operating system. In a broad view, comparable to the BIOS of a PC (bootloader) and the internal harddisk (NAND) where the OS (and much more) is stored.

Hi thanks alot for your answer, but I'm still confused.
As I Understand, MAGLDR is something that lets me load an OS from SD, instead of from the actual, phisical ROM. right?
In tutorials that I have read, it says that MAGLDR is a requirement for the WP7 port. So it means that the WP7 OS is loaded from SD?
How does it sattles with the following thread?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=966435
(in which someone asks if WP7 can be ran from SD and is answered negatively)
Thanks is advance

itaysk said:
Hi thanks alot for your answer, but I'm still confused.
As I Understand, MAGLDR is something that lets me load an OS from SD, instead of from the actual, phisical ROM. right?
In tutorials that I have read, it says that MAGLDR is a requirement for the WP7 port. So it means that the WP7 OS is loaded from SD?
How does it sattles with the following thread?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=966435
(in which someone asks if WP7 can be ran from SD and is answered negatively)
Thanks is advance
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MAGLDR actually makes your HD2 capable of running WP7 or Android from the NAND memory instead of WinMo 6.5 - and an optional operating system from SD memory.
Considering it this way, you were right, except you mixed up SD card and NAND.
Some people want to run 2 operating systems on their HD2 - MAGLDR makes this possible because you can select to run from NAND or SD.
But, the only OS for HD2 which runs from SD (as of today) is Android - means, WP7 and WinMo 6.5 only run from NAND.
(And you cannot put 2 OS´s into NAND).

Ohhhh NAND != SD
So if WP7 is not SD yet, the current port make it run from NAND. Why then is MAGLDR a requirement for WP7? can't I just flash it the good old fashion way?
And on a completely different subject:
I understand I need HSPL 2.08 for the WP7 port.
In the thread , the latest version is 4, but it says "*Includes 2.08 OSPL, 2.08 HSPL, 3.03 OSPL, 3.03 HSPL.
You can install any of this"
So should I download ver 2 or 4?
Again thanks alot, you are really helpful.

MAGLDR actually loads after SPL, but it is needed to load another operating system than the native Windows Mobile 6.5.
For MAGLDR, you must have HSPL 2.08.
Virtually all custom ROMs with WinMo 6.5 are also compatible with 2.08.HSPL.
In case your stock ROM (usually version 3.xx) comes with SPL 3.03, you could easily flash back to this with HSPL4.exe - in case your stock ROM has a version number 1.xx, you might use HSPL2.exe (which offers OSPL and HSPL in 1.42, 1.66 and 2.08 versions).
Btw, "OSPL" means "original SPL".

I'm currently running OSPL 1.42, So according to your instructions, I will use HSPL2.exe to install 2.08.
Thank you, ++ to your thanks meter

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Tmobile(USA) HD2 trouble with Android (SD)

I'm using TMOUSA HD2 with stock winMO (stock everything actually), but I am having trouble installing the android. Once I run it, it would pause on the HTC splash screen (with black background and green HTC logo), and I left it there for 30 mins with nothing happening. I did not format the SD card.
Any help greatly apprectiated!!
OS: 21889.5.0.87
ROM: 2.10.531.1 (stock TmobileUSA 6.5 winmo)
Radio: 2.08.50.08_2 (stock TmobileUSA)
Protocol: 15.34.50.07u (stock Tmobile USA)
thanks
jkwka4 said:
I'm using TMOUSA HD2 with stock winMO (stock everything actually), but I am having trouble installing the android. Once I run it, it would pause on the HTC splash screen (with black background and green HTC logo), and I left it there for 30 mins with nothing happening. I did not format the SD card.
Any help greatly apprectiated!!
OS: 21889.5.0.87
ROM: 2.10.531.1 (stock TmobileUSA 6.5 winmo)
Radio: 2.08.50.08_2 (stock TmobileUSA)
Protocol: 15.34.50.07u (stock Tmobile USA)
thanks
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I think your problem is you really need to update you software. Go here: http://www.t-mobile.com/wmupgrade/, select the HTC HD2 and download the 3.14.531.1 version. Then since your using the SD installation, I suggest this rom here: http://androidadvices.com/htc-hd2-steps-to-install-android-2-3-gingerbread-os/. N.B - I used the 1Gb img file for best results (for me). Updating your software as I said earlier will definitely fix your problem because for sd installation it is always recommended to have at least 2.15 rom version but 3.14.531 will be better. Good luck.
theonew said:
I think your problem is you really need to update you software. Go here: http://www.t-mobile.com/wmupgrade/, select the HTC HD2 and download the 3.14.531.1 version. Then since your using the SD installation, I suggest this rom here: http://androidadvices.com/htc-hd2-steps-to-install-android-2-3-gingerbread-os/. N.B - I used the 1Gb img file for best results (for me). Updating your software as I said earlier will definitely fix your problem because for either sd or nand installation it is always recommended to have at least 2.15 rom version but 3.14.531 will be better. Good luck.
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Just so you know it does not matter, Windows Mobile ROM you have on your HD2 if you flash a NAND Android ROM. When you flash MAGLDR or cLK to your HD2 it removes what ever Windows Mobile ROM you have and installs MAGLDR or cLK ,which ever bootloader you chose, to the same area or ROM partition of the NAND memory. The only time it mattersWindows Mobile ROM you use as far as Android is concered is when you use a Android SD card build.
T-Macgnolia said:
Just so you know it does not matter, Windows Mobile ROM you have on your HD2 if you flash a NAND Android ROM. When you flash MAGLDR or cLK to your HD2 it removes what ever Windows Mobile ROM you have and installs MAGLDR or cLK ,which ever bootloader you chose, to the same area or ROM partition of the NAND memory. The only time it mattersWindows Mobile ROM you use as far as Android is concered is when you use a Android SD card build.
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The person is using an Android SD card build.
T-Macgnolia said:
Just so you know it does not matter, Windows Mobile ROM you have on your HD2 if you flash a NAND Android ROM. When you flash MAGLDR or cLK to your HD2 it removes what ever Windows Mobile ROM you have and installs MAGLDR or cLK ,which ever bootloader you chose, to the same area or ROM partition of the NAND memory. The only time it mattersWindows Mobile ROM you use as far as Android is concered is when you use a Android SD card build.
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Where can I find an explanation of why the Windows Mobile ROM matters when doing the Android SD card build? Does it only matter upon the bootup before you load haret, or is Windows Mobile still loaded even after launching Haret?

Android in my hd2 now!!

HI MATES,,,,i´ve just aquired the mitical hd2 wm phone for my collection and i need some help for start my own personalization...
1-i don´t want WM on my hd2 only android,,, is better via sd or via nand?
and what´s the better tutorial for to install android from WM 6.5???
i desire flash it to be able for to flash and try a lot of android roms of the hd2 i love sense 3
i´m looking for tutorials but there are a lot! i need the most easier...also i need to install a recovery menú of course...
thank´s mates!!!
see you here!!!
NAND is better than SD, but follow the steps below, and you can have both
Install HSPL
Flash a X.XX.50.XX radio (like the one in my sig)
Install MAGLDR
Install CWM Recovery with appropriate partition size for the ROM you intend to use (typically the partition size is listed in the first or second post of the ROM's thread)
Download MAGLDR NAND ROM, and place it at the root of your SD card.
Flash the ROM from CWM recovery (AD Recovery from the MAGLDR menu)
Download MAGLDR SD Android build
Extract SD buid .zip file to root of your sd card (so that all the files of the build are in their own folder on the root of your card, not all the files themselves on the root of the card)
In MAGLDR, go into Services-->Boot Settings-->AD SD Directory, and choose the folder where your SD Build is.
Now you can boot a ROM from NAND, and boot another Android build from your sd card.
It is a good idea to read all of the tutorials, and get familiar with what you are doing before you do it.
I recommend using the HD2 NAND Toolkit, as it makes flashing HSPL and CWM Recovery easy and convenient.
Just whatever you do, if you have a T-Mobile US HD2, DO NOT flash a X.XX.51.XX radio, or you will permanently brick your device. Just about any other screw ups can be fixed, but flash a 51 radio and you're screwed.
Again, read as much as you can, decide what ROM you want, and follow the steps I've laid out for you, and you can't go wrong.
SERGI.3210 said:
HI MATES,,,,i´ve just aquired the mitical hd2 wm phone for my collection and i need some help for start my own personalization...
1-i don´t want WM on my hd2 only android,,, is better via sd or via nand?
and what´s the better tutorial for to install android from WM 6.5???
i desire flash it to be able for to flash and try a lot of android roms of the hd2 i love sense 3
i´m looking for tutorials but there are a lot! i need the most easier...also i need to install a recovery menú of course...
thank´s mates!!!
see you here!!!
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Here is the best guide IMO. You shouldn't really ask questions like this though, I don't think its right to say 'Android in my HD2 now' and expect everyone to help you, despite there being hundreds of other threads on the same topic, asking the same question and getting the same responses. In future, use the search tool.

[Q] SD Android Not Installing :(

Okay I have everything right here for the SD Android installation
ROM 3.14
2.15 Radio
HSPL 2.08
A properly fat32 formatted SD card
But no matter which SD build I try after hitting the Haret, it takes me to several lines and then to a htc screen and stays there forever.. Tried the Americandroid MccM BoxMax and the mixtheme build...
And Im sorry if this has been questioned in the earlier forums but I couldn't really see someone else having this problem, so sorry :/
But please Help
ty
cookymonster1 said:
Okay I have everything right here for the SD Android installation
ROM 3.14
2.15 Radio
HSPL 2.08
A properly fat32 formatted SD card
But no matter which SD build I try after hitting the Haret, it takes me to several lines and then to a htc screen and stays there forever.. Tried the Americandroid MccM BoxMax and the mixtheme build...
And Im sorry if this has been questioned in the earlier forums but I couldn't really see someone else having this problem, so sorry :/
But please Help
ty
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Are you putting the Android folder in the root of the sd card? How much time are you Waiting ..first boot should take 5 or 6 minutes at least ..try another sd card too ..
Sent from my HTC HD2 using XDA App
did u run the clrcad.exe?
yugoport said:
Are you putting the Android folder in the root of the sd card? How much time are you Waiting ..first boot should take 5 or 6 minutes at least ..try another sd card too ..
Sent from my HTC HD2 using XDA App
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by root of SD you mean; after formatting i just place it in the storage card directory right ? yes im doing that and i have a standard 4gb SD card
chalienge said:
did u run the clrcad.exe?
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Yes Sir I am running the clrcad.exe first and then The Haret file plus Im waiting almost 2hours each time =/
format sd
put the folder 'Android'- not only its content but the folder itself to sd
clrcad
haret.
if it doesnt boot then hard reset phone and then do all the steps above again
Also,, regular hd2 or tmous? (I ask because 3.14 rom and 2.08.hspl on a regular don't mix, messes with the ram).
Also, for SD android the hspl and radio rules don't matter in the way they do for nand android.
As an aside, I only once got any haret based rom to load in a dozen or so attempts, and it immediately prevented the winmo rom from starting, forcing a hard reset.
mutil said:
format sd
put the folder 'Android'- not only its content but the folder itself to sd
clrcad
haret.
if it doesnt boot then hard reset phone and then do all the steps above again
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samsamuel said:
Also,, regular hd2 or tmous? (I ask because 3.14 rom and 2.08.hspl on a regular don't mix, messes with the ram).
Also, for SD android the hspl and radio rules don't matter in the way they do for nand android.
As an aside, I only once got any haret based rom to load in a dozen or so attempts, and it immediately prevented the winmo rom from starting, forcing a hard reset.
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Regular, not the tmous... So it is indeed not rare for the haret based rom not to load up in the first or even second attempt ? And will a hard reset really help ? I'll try hard resetting and then repeating the process
samsamuel said:
Also,, regular hd2 or tmous? (I ask because 3.14 rom and 2.08.hspl on a regular don't mix, messes with the ram).
Also, for SD android the hspl and radio rules don't matter in the way they do for nand android.
As an aside, I only once got any haret based rom to load in a dozen or so attempts, and it immediately prevented the winmo rom from starting, forcing a hard reset.
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Not to cause confusion, but I've found this to be completely untrue. I was running a 3.14 ROM with HSPL 2.08 and Haret for ages, before deciding to give up on WinMo altogether and go to NAND. Everything worked fine.
@OP, have you tried different SD cards?
hey it worked... A simple change of a sd card worked... Tried two others, worked with the third one
thanks all you guys
Can a 3.14 stock TMOUS with 2.15 radio have a dual boot nand android?
No, if winmo is installed nothing else can be on the nand
Then, if I want to dual boot an android SD types are my only choice? I read a thread here stating that NAND is "hands down" better than SD types. If so, then could I still play games in an android SD build as fast as I could in a NAND build?
I recently bumped into this new android version rom
http://hd2apps.blogspot.com/2011/04/htc-hd2-apps-android-cm7-233.html
Like what I've said earlier, my TMOUS is a stock ver. 3.14 with radio ver. 2.15. The post in that blog says that that rom will work on a 2.08 or higher radio, but it stated that 2.12 is recommended, and and hspl 4.
Can I just install the hspl and leave the radio as is?
Bumping thread ^_^
In the Americandroid thread there's a video tut for installing and making the americandroid rom work. At the end of the video the specs of the phone used were posted, it was a 3.14 with a 2.15 radio so that answers my question, but now I have another. The video didn't make it clear whether the 3.14 rom he used was a stock or not, so my question is, can I have an SD android rom on a stock TMOUS winmo rom? Or do I really have to flash a cooked rom?
stock winmo rom is fine
Wow, thanks for the reply. I've been waiting for one in ages ^_^
Well, I tried. Funny thing though... first of, my sim was recognized but I can't seem to see any of my contacts. When I go to "my contacts" it says that I have to import it through accounts or something, but I can't find it anywhere. It says that I have to go to some menu and click on account and import.
Another thing is, when I restarted my phone to use winmo again, most of the programs I installed didn't work anymore like dutty's task manager and the resco file manager to name a few.
Any thoughts on this? I was thinking it was because of the stock rom I have. BTW, I don't have HSPL from what I remember. Just SPL.
Mate you better flash HSPL right now as it will save you from future headaches
yea hspl will save you from plenty of issues down the road
Thanks for the reps guys. I'll post the outcome of this.. thanks again ^_^
Oh, one more question. Does this apply to all SD android roms, or just the one I posted?
Ok, here's the outcome. I tried installing HSPL 2.08 as per instructions of almost all of the sd android rom builds I've seen. Please correct me if I'm wrong.
After installing HSPL 2.08, I noticed a big difference in my winmo. I hardly get any bars in my signal bar, hence, I can't text, I can't call and can't be contacted.
So I went back and installed SPL 3.03.
BTW, I have an unlocked TMOUS with stock 3.14 rom and radio 2.15, and now have SPL 3.03.
I would like to keep my stock 3.14 rom (or, if a cooked rom is needed I would like a closest to stock 3.14 cooked rom) and run an SD android rom. How do I do that? Is there an SD android rom out there that fits my needs?
Thanks for the help again.

Getting an HD2, few questions.

Hey,
i already have a htc desire hd, but i'll get a htc hd2 nearly for free from a mate and i have a few questions.
I want to run android on the device, but i have read, that it will just start from the sd-card, and won't get "installed" or what ever on the device itself.
Is that true?
Second; i also have read, that, after you select the .exe from the sdcard and after you have booted up android, and turn off your device again, you won't get a boot option, if you want to run android, or if you want to run windows mobile.
besides, i'm from germany (you may already have recognized at my bad english...) and i have read, that the european version of the hd2 comes with less ram as the us-version. AND i have read, that you can unlock the ram from about 440mb ~ to the us-version's 576mb ram. is that true and how does that work?
i apologize for my bad english, i have given my best :<
regards.
The SD only android is not true. You have only been reading about starting android from SD using haret under winmo. You can wipe winmo completely and instal a nand android rom to the actual phone, and if you like you can have a second, SD android build dual booting from SD, with magldr offering you the choice.
This will be the most flashable phone any of us are likely to see, winmo, android, wp7, Ubuntu
, dual boot winmo/android, android/android, wp7/android(I think), winmo/android/Ubuntu..... there won't be a phone as opened up any time soon.
448 - 576 ram is true and will happen when you flash 2.08.hspl and then an android compatible radio. It can also be done on winmo by flashing a tmous rom and radio.
Go to the hd2 android section and read the nand subsection.
Quick answer for your first question is that you can start android from sd card but also mostly from nand (internal memory) too :] Depends what you want exactly. Us version of hd2 have more internal memory not ram as far as I know EU version got something like 512mb and US has about 1gb, about ram memory ofcourse you can unlock more ram about 576 with new radio (you can install easy). I dont know anything about exe files didnt try it yet as I bought my hd2 two months ago Hope I helped you a bit
So far, i have found this programm:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=623792
which lets me choose between android and windows mobile, after i have booted up windows.
but a), is it possible to get this choice direclty before the device boots up, and b), does this DualBoot only support android and windows mobile, or does it also work with windows 7 mobile and ubtuntu and so one?
regards.
Scr!pt0 said:
So far, i have found this programm:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=623792
which lets me choose between android and windows mobile, after i have booted up windows.
but a), is it possible to get this choice direclty before the device boots up, and b), does this DualBoot only support android and windows mobile, or does it also work with windows 7 mobile and ubtuntu and so one?
regards.
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The program you mention is almost 2 years old and created before the Android for HD2 was even developed. You don't have to bother with that program because you will be using magldr. You will get a choice to select an OS from the magldr menu as soon as the phone starts up and before it boots into an OS of your choice. The magldr supports WP7/7.5 and Android SD boot choices for me, as I am sure it does every other combination, just the matter of setting it up to do what you want.

Help | How to install Android on HTC HD2?

Hi,
I want to install an Android OS on my Windows Mobile HTC HD2 phone.
How can I do that?
Details of device:
Model: T8585
Windows Mobile OS: 5.2.21869 (21869.5.0.82)
Version Manila - 2.5.19211619.0
ROM - 1.48.483.1
(71294) FRE
The phone right now is in French, and I want to make it Android and then install Hebrew language.
What to do?
I don't have experience with WM or andorind os's - Just with iPhones (iOS
1
Thanks
shai.m said:
Hi,
I want to install an Android OS on my Windows Mobile HTC HD2 phone.
How can I do that?
Details of device:
Model: T8585
Windows Mobile OS: 5.2.21869 (21869.5.0.82)
Version Manila - 2.5.19211619.0
ROM - 1.48.483.1
(71294) FRE
The phone right now is in French, and I want to make it Android and then install Hebrew language.
What to do?
I don't have experience with WM or andorind os's - Just with iPhones (iOS
1
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First and foremost I suggest a lot of reading, I would start in the WM 6.5 forum and then go to the Android forum as there are dozens of guides available to use. Are you looking at installing an SD build or a Nand build?
chrisrj28 said:
First and foremost I suggest a lot of reading, I would start in the WM 6.5 forum and then go to the Android forum as there are dozens of guides available to use. Are you looking at installing an SD build or a Nand build?
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I read a lot.. tried.. but it is too much details for me
Actually I ahve idea what are the differences between SD build or a Nand build.
And I don't know the meaning of each one of them.
Thanks
SD Build is installed on your memory card,and NAND on phone memory.
mare.djurdjev said:
SD Build is installed on your memory card,and NAND on phone memory.
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Cool.
I need someone to tell me what is the easiest way to make what I want
So what you suggest and how?
Thanks!
First you must choose which android you want to install,there are different version,for example:Froyo,Gingerbread,Ice Cream Sandwich.I suggest that you check android forum and choose which version you want,and then watch some videos on youtube how to install that specific version,it would help.Im not expirianced in android.Thats all i can tell you,i hope you had some help.
Thanks
I think I read about Froyo.
But after downloading it, then what is next?
I saw a video that tells to put the File of the Froyo on the DS card and then run it from the device...
That's all? That's how you change OS?
Thanks
SD card android doesn't change OS, first the phone starts in win mob, then you start android. A bit like starting a program.
nand android removes win mob completely.
Phone into bootloader
Run hspl2 or hspl3 or Hspl4,
choose 2.08.hspl
Into bootloader
Flash radio 2.15.50
Into bootloader
Flash magldr 1.13
Into magldr - USB flasher
Flash cwm partition layout of size your rom needs
Into magldr - 8 ad recovery - starts cwm
In cwm advanced format SD card THIS WILL WIPE YOUR SD CARD.it will also create and ext partition of whatever size you choose.(go for 1gb for now)
In cwm - mounts and storage - mount SD card
Copy the rom.zip to SD (could use card reader if you have one.)
In cwm - install zip from SD
Choose the zip
Done.

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