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A warning to all those buying a Nexus S (Screen and battery problems)

I thought I'd share some hopefully helpful information with you guys after having to have 2 swap outs of my Nexus S after getting it on launch day.
I had done an awful lot of reading prior to getting my Nexus to make sure I was pretty clued up about any potential launch bugs which seem to plague a number of handsets these days.
The first thing I noticed with my first phone was the unusually fast battery drain and long charge times, I could hardly go through daylight hours without my phone needing charge (Battery indicator showing orange or red). The following night I left the phone with 55% charge and went to sleep. When I woke up the phone was off, strange I thought; turns out it had eaten the rest of the battery over night.
The final straw came when I reset the phone to default settings (thinking it was a rogue app causing the drain) and it still ate the battery within a day. At this point I knew something was up, especially as reviewers were commenting that the battery seemed considerably better than a lot of other Android handsets.
I decided to take it back to Best Buy to get a swap out, long story short the sales rep. tested the battery and told me that it was defective. He then said he would swap out just the handset and battery with another unit, great I thought!
My relief was soon disturbed when I realised something wasn't right with the screen on my new handset. Not only was the screen a pee yellow colour (compared with the cool temperature of the original) there was also significant banding within the grey area of the the pull down notification tray. These problems had also been mentioned on the Engadget review and even if they hadn't I'm pretty sure I still would have noticed it straight away regardless.
After another trip back to Best Buy and a reluctant second swap out on their part, I have what seems like a fully working handset with a good battery and decent AMOLED panel.
I don't know what's happening with Samsung's QC or whether they have large tolerances for their panels, but I would have thought that they would have been able to iron a lot of this out having already launched the Galaxy S series.
A slightly long post but I hope this at least saves some of you the hassle I've been through to get a decent handset. This isn't the first time it's happened either, I had problems with my launch day iPhone 4 with the mic not working.
One thing's for sure, I'm going to be far more vigilant when buying my next handset.

also test ur buttons because they can be loose and the back button sometimes has problems

nothing new for samsung QA

Unfortunately, having come from the epic, this seems par for the course for sammy..I'd high hopes Google would counter this, but I guess not. My first and only ns is wonderful, though I ordered online and it seems the majority of complaints are coming from those that ordered at the store..coincidence?
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I had to return an iPhone 4 a few months ago because the screen was literally fused on crooked to the display. They all have their negatives and bad batches.
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brianbrain said:
Unfortunately, having come from the epic, this seems par for the course for sammy..I'd high hopes Google would counter this, but I guess not. My first and only ns is wonderful, though I ordered online and it seems the majority of complaints are coming from those that ordered at the store..coincidence?
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Sadly, Google != Apple, they don't produce their own hardware. Depending on Samsung, with their known ****ty QA is a risk I'm sure they weighed.

I ordered my NS online and have none off theses issues! Actually my battery life is AWESOME. 16 hours straight between charging. I love it!
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robstunner said:
I had to return an iPhone 4 a few months ago because the screen was literally fused on crooked to the display. They all have their negatives and bad batches.
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HHmm, If a few are defective, then they ALL must be. Quick, we must warn the others!

I'm not following you? I was implying that all phones have bad batches. No need to get butt hurt if that offended you?
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3G supported band
Guys,
Some thing out of the topic, but i need to ask is that is there any sort of 3G band limitation in US version of NS? My friend in Canada told me that currently all devices are coming only with AWS support for 3G which is supported by limited number of Cellular Operators.
Any ideas?

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Guys,
Some thing out of the topic, but i need to ask is that is there any sort of 3G band limitation in US version of NS? My friend in Canada told me that currently all devices are coming only with AWS support for 3G which is supported by limited number of Cellular Operators.
Any ideas?
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Correct, it wont work on AT&T/Bell/Telus 3G (someone correct me if im wrong about the Canadian carriers)

Having the same battery problem, please help
I am also having the same battery problem. It seems like the battery drains 1% per minute. I need to keep it charging all the time or it will drain in about 90 minutes. And it takes 8-9 hours to charge it to 100%.
Problem is I can't just take it back to Best Buy since I live overseas and a friend brought it to me from the US. So now what do I do?
1. Is it the battery or the phone? If it is the battery then I can just replace the battery, but I can't find anywhere online to buy the same battery? Any ideas?
2. If it is the phone, is there anything I can do w/o having to send it back to the USA?
Thanks so much for your help!

SmartphonesTV said:
I am also having the same battery problem. It seems like the battery drains 1% per minute. I need to keep it charging all the time or it will drain in about 90 minutes. And it takes 8-9 hours to charge it to 100%.
Problem is I can't just take it back to Best Buy since I live overseas and a friend brought it to me from the US. So now what do I do?
1. Is it the battery or the phone? If it is the battery then I can just replace the battery, but I can't find anywhere online to buy the same battery? Any ideas?
2. If it is the phone, is there anything I can do w/o having to send it back to the USA?
Thanks so much for your help!
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http://www.amazon.com/Samsung-Standard-Battery-Moment-M900/dp/B0026LQL40/ref=cm_cr_pr_product_top this battery works if you need to buy a new one

Calm down OP. You are just unlucky I suppose. Not only Samsung, I had to switch my ex droid2 three times. First, the microphone doesn't work. Second one, the power button then the third time physical keyboard was not responsive. Just my .02
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Its called mass production people each headset will have a defect!!! Live with it or dont buy simple

Yep battery life on my phone seems crap compared to my iPhone 4 but its a good phone never the less.
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As of now, the nexus s i definitely eating up more battery than my n1. but i usually give it a week before i can say fore sure. are there extended batteries out for the NS?

Thanks but this seller won't ship outside the USA. I found a bunch of similar ones on eBay, but they are all 1440 milliamps and not 1500 milliamps.
Not sure if the one on Amazon is 1440 or 1500.

SmartphonesTV said:
Thanks but this seller won't ship outside the USA. I found a bunch of similar ones on eBay, but they are all 1440 milliamps and not 1500 milliamps.
Not sure if the one on Amazon is 1440 or 1500.
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if you check the accessories thread someone says its a 1500

Darrien13 said:
also test ur buttons because they can be loose and the back button sometimes has problems
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Thx for that - thought I was going mad! Vol+ and Back seem dodgy - don't work every time. I'll be taking it back to the shop on Tuesday...

Secondary battery

Has anyone tried buying a non official battery for their MS2 and care to comment or recommend any? Im going on holiday to france and i know my phone wont last a whole day without charging, so I was thinking of buying a second battery.

I read in another forum that using a non-Motorola battery displays some kind of warning. I'd go with an original battery.

jambo89liam said:
Has anyone tried buying a non official battery for their MS2 and care to comment or recommend any? Im going on holiday to france and i know my phone wont last a whole day without charging, so I was thinking of buying a second battery.
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using a non-original battery could have detrimental effects on your phone. there was a discussion on this on the forum of another phone. using a non-original battery could lead to leaks and other problems which would eventually lead to the warranty of your phone being voided.
stick with original motorola products. yes the battery might be very underpowered, but its the safest bet to ensure the longevity of ur phone

With a non original battery, the battery indicator of your phone shows a interrogation symbol. Also, it does not charge with the phone charger.
Sorry my analphabet english xD
@Motorola Milestone 2

bp7x 2300mAh battery

I 'm using a non-original battery . The MOMAX and everything's good ,it feels just like the original one except for battery tempperature sensor. the temp is always 26 in celsius

I personally have used seidio for my milestone and it works like a charm, its the extended 2800mah one it really performs like it should and not like how a lot of people claim thats its way less than stock! It does not always read it correctly but a quick reboot fixes that, like 50% after reboot would usually be about 70-80%. They way i used to use my phone (light to moderate level) would last about 2-3 days but after the extended I got twice that and some more. Just make sure you get stuff from the original manufactures either way and don't go for deals at amazon or whatnot as those guys might be selling either defected or not proprely stored stuff. Batteries are critical components don't go cheap on them! And no, my phone has not been messed up or had any leaks or anything and I have this for about 3-4 months now. The original battery degraded in about 6months if you have to compare.

That sounds promising, does the battery need to be charged with an external charger? And does the milestone complain that you are not using the official bettery
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metalron said:
I personally have used seidio for my milestone and it works like a charm, its the extended 2800mah one it really performs like it should and not like how a lot of people claim thats its way less than stock! It does not always read it correctly but a quick reboot fixes that, like 50% after reboot would usually be about 70-80%. They way i used to use my phone (light to moderate level) would last about 2-3 days but after the extended I got twice that and some more. Just make sure you get stuff from the original manufactures either way and don't go for deals at amazon or whatnot as those guys might be selling either defected or not proprely stored stuff. Batteries are critical components don't go cheap on them! And no, my phone has not been messed up or had any leaks or anything and I have this for about 3-4 months now. The original battery degraded in about 6months if you have to compare.
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reebooting your phone to get the exact picture also works on the standard battery. my question is, does the back part which houses the battery heat up when used? does the phone get hot during charging? do you need a new battery cover for it? and besides the longer usability, have you noticed any other performance issues on the phone?

agent008my said:
reebooting your phone to get the exact picture also works on the standard battery. my question is, does the back part which houses the battery heat up when used? does the phone get hot during charging? do you need a new battery cover for it? and besides the longer usability, have you noticed any other performance issues on the phone?
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Actually the rebooting to get the exact picture is not the same here, a jump to 20-30% on a stock battery? I don't think so. No I never encountered any odd behavior with the other battery. No getting extra hot during charge or use, get the typical little bit of heat while using 3G and browsing like mad but that would happen on the stock battery too. Battery cover for a 2800? of course, that stuff is huge! its protrudes like mad! a quick heads up though, the extended battery for the milestone 1 and 2 can use the same extended batteries. Don't know about the droid x though. Anyways, no performance issues, no heat while charging. The back covers supplied by these after market guys are not the best quality though so if you are someone who loves dropping phones and what not would recommed getting a spare back cover from the guys you get the batts from.
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That sounds promising, does the battery need to be charged with an external charger? And does the milestone complain that you are not using the official bettery
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No, I use my original charger and no complains or warnings by the phone. Not on the milestone 1 at least. In fact some times i use my ipod's adapter so no big issue. And it charges at the same pace as the stock, additional 1 hour or whatever. restart the phone to getting a proper reading as it shows 100% but upon restart its 70-80% since only the stock level is charged. I hear this app called battery left does great for calibration.

ALSO a thing to note, I only know of Seidio and Mugen to be relialbe after market battery guys hence their hefty pricing at times. The others claiming to have bigger batteries have cheated people with stickers and what not and usually end up underperforming and degrading considerably faster than burning paper! I remember 1USD batteries for nokias back in the day good for a quick one time run i suppose but these 1USD guys are now selling them with a better branding for like 20-40 USD.
Anyways Sedio and Mugen have facebook profiles and keep people posted on the latest on devices usually there, although its kind of sad since seidio have not followed through promised products at times.

metalron said:
Actually the rebooting to get the exact picture is not the same here, a jump to 20-30% on a stock battery? I don't think so. No I never encountered any odd behavior with the other battery. No getting extra hot during charge or use, get the typical little bit of heat while using 3G and browsing like mad but that would happen on the stock battery too. Battery cover for a 2800? of course, that stuff is huge! its protrudes like mad! a quick heads up though, the extended battery for the milestone 1 and 2 can use the same extended batteries. Don't know about the droid x though. Anyways, no performance issues, no heat while charging. The back covers supplied by these after market guys are not the best quality though so if you are someone who loves dropping phones and what not would recommed getting a spare back cover from the guys you get the batts from.
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thanks for the info mate. ill do a lil more research and probably check it out myself.

Thanks for the info i have bought a Seidio Innocell Extended Life for Motorola milestone 2 from mobilefun £30.49 its the 1500mah version same size as original battery so no extra cover is required.
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jambo89liam said:
Thanks for the info i have bought a Seidio Innocell Extended Life for Motorola milestone 2 from mobilefun £30.49 its the 1500mah version same size as original battery so no extra cover is required.
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Cool but as I suggested try and get them off the manufactures themselves as I have noticed some people complaining when purchased via 3rd party retailers.
Also another bud of mine had picked up one for the Nexus one, that phones back cover is a full one unlike the moto's and he too can vouch for the products positive performance. Either ways also check out some reviews from amazon.com for peace of mind.

http://yfrog.com/gz1yj2j
http://yfrog.com/h8n307j
Got my battery today looks official, I will charge it over night and test it tomorrow will let you know if it goes well.
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cmxyz said:
I 'm using a non-original battery . The MOMAX and everything's good ,it feels just like the original one except for battery tempperature sensor. the temp is always 26 in celsius
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can yo still charge it though because i bought the aninda battery and i could only charge it with an external battery charger

jambo89liam said:
http://yfrog.com/gz1yj2j
http://yfrog.com/h8n307j
Got my battery today looks official, I will charge it over night and test it tomorrow will let you know if it goes well.
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is the battery meter being shown or are you getting an error message because i would like to buy one

No complaints from the phone about it being the incorrect battery the battery has been charged within/by the phone no external charger required. I got the 1500mah version from mobilefun I doubt it will give much more performance but will see.
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After my first day of use I got around 11 hours of use before reaching 5%. Here are the usage statistics at 15%
https://picasaweb.google.com/105351366297036719015/DropBox?authkey=Gv1sRgCJna6ZH6hLKxzQE
Wifi was on most of the time, I was using my phone for the usual things. Occasionally checking socialfeeds, engadget, xda every hour or so and internet browsing I played 10 minutes of angry bids. Updated some apps and downloaded a few new ones.
Overall not a significant increase in battery life maybe an hour or so more from what I am used to.
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[Got Battery?] 1700mah. 1y warranty. $8.99

**READ BELOW-- BATTERY IS RATED AT 1000MAH**I know there are several aftermarket battery threads, but this post would just get lost.. but anyways I just bought a 1700mah battery for $9 shipped with 1 year warranty! Its a US seller as well.. If anyone needs a battery this is a great deal!
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=280687923555#ht_678wt_1031
I ordered mine today so should be in by tuesday and will post results.. but this seller/product seems legit compared to other cheap batteries..
Feedback:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=14713887&postcount=71
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=14626643&postcount=64
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=14639280&postcount=68
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=14504629&postcount=22
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=14533001&postcount=27
**Update.. some pictures show something interesting (on the back it says 1000mah), can some elaborate?**
http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/577/20110615101150.jpg/

If you can run a test similar to other tests where others run a video and compare the amount of play time of a stock vs this battery thing that would be great.

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If you can run a test similar to other tests where others run a video and compare the amount of play time of a stock vs this battery thing that would be great.
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I will do.. i'm always on my phone

Hmm. Picked up one to test it out
It probably isn't truly 1700mAh and probably won't be as good as OEM battery but we'll see

This will be cool if it works out but the price point is setting me off in the wrong direction. A future thanks for your effort is being placed now! Thanks

I assume that this battery fits under the stock cover?
I'm curious to see what the test results will be.
Subscribed.

I think I might just hop on the bundle deal...two batteries and charger dock for a little less than 20.
Seller has had some really good reviews..definitely want to see the OPs feedback
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Thanks... may need this until the Devs figure out how to make GB not a battery pig. looking at the linked 2 batts plus charger... was going to get the stock ones, but ill see how this goes... can always return it I guess...

wow I might just have to get one of these

Bumpity bump
any one get one of these yet? Looking to buy if it works well...
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1 yr warranty from who? The seller?

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1 yr warranty from who? The seller?
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From what I've inferred from the info provided on facebook, I *believe* that the seller is actually the maufacturer. From the looks of it, it appears this is a startup company. The fact that his shop is in california makes a lot of sense (I just saw a news special on how there are manufacturing workshops people can rent time out in out there in order for entrepreneurs to get their business off the ground before investing in their own manufacturing equipment; kind of like how there are glass blowing centers open to the public). This could be one of those deals. If the OP (who purchased one) says the battery works well, I might just pick one up just to support the guy. We'll see.
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The warranty is only good for complete failure. It is not guaranteed to be better than OEM although I really hope it is. Still waiting to see. Got cheap "1500" mAh batteries on Ebay that last only half as long as OEM.
Do you BONSAI?

The battery will be in by tmrw. I will calibrate and let it die down, then recharge fully and see how it lasts... I will be on Bonsai 4.1.1 200/1120. Although this rom hasn't given me the best battery life it will be a good indicator if the battery helps or not.
** Just received battery today. Will post results on wednesday.

omair2005 said:
The battery will be in by tmrw. I will calibrate and let it die down, then recharge fully and see how it lasts... I will be on Bonsai 4.1.1 200/1120. Although this rom hasn't given me the best battery life it will be a good indicator if the battery helps or not.
** Just received battery today. Will post results on wednesday.
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Very nice. I would encourage you, though, to not let it die down (these li-ions don't like that). Id say bump charge it to full with phone off about 10 times (charge till blue light, unplug, plug, repeast 10 times) then boot in to cwm and reset batt stats then see how it lasts from there.
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Looking forward to the results as well. Thanks!

Pending on your results I think I'm going to get the two batteries plus charger package the guy offers. Even if its only slightly better or equal to OEM, having that second battery won't hurt, specially for only 20 bucks for it all
Posted by some phone named the Epic.

I actually got mine today, seems to work well so far, charged it for a bit and running it now.
I'll plug it in ove night and see how she runs.
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i read somewhere that our batteries were non-memory type. meaning it didnt matter how you charged it. and bump charging does work but it could reduce charging cycles. im no expert. just what i read.

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I actually got mine today, seems to work well so far, charged it for a bit and running it now.
I'll plug it in ove night and see how she runs.
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Can you post what rom, kernel, cpu setting, and how you used your phone if its not a problem. I'll update the first post with your results, as well as anyone else that bought one. I'll post my results by tomorrow night. And btw I switched to urbanfury in the meantime

Time to replace my stock evo battery ?

Its been a year since i got this phone and the poor battery has had nothing but heavy usage the the entire time. Im wondering how after 500+ charges a evi battery should be holding up and what the life span of it is till its time to replace after heavy usage and on quite a few ocvasions more than one full charge per day.. Old age is a ***** haha. Thanks guys

Unless you notice it's not holding a charge like it used to, heating up a lot, or swelling up, I'd say it's still perfectly fine.

First 75% or so just drops fast. 75% through 25% so so and the last 25% holds strong like the whole 100% used to. I wasnt sure if it because miks rom and heavier usage from 3.0 though?
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They are cheap enough, worse case you now have two batteries in case it dies.

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They are cheap enough, worse case you now have two batteries in case it dies.
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U got the point there. U made up my mind. I hear u cant get one thats 2000mah that fits under the stock hood? I havent found one online, any suggestions?

Yea I wouldn't mind finding that battery too. I really don't want to make my phone thicker with the big extended battery.
We're comin from a pure power source.

Usually batteries typically should last a year (or longer) but when I used to work at tmo I found that they start to lose full charge at around 8 months; im only speaking for HTC batteries based on my exp w/ their devices. If you can get another one id say go for it.
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The batteries are indeed cheap, I bought the two 1800mA with external charger and almost exclusively use the 1800mA.

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The batteries are indeed cheap, I bought the two 1800mA with external charger and almost exclusively use the 1800mA.
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Where did you pick them up from?

Check the thread in my sig.

just got my extended battery with the oversized back. So far its great. I keep the extra smaller one in the case. Pretty sure I can go all day now and do pretty much whatever I want. The back case actually fit tighter than the original

The era of wireless charging will begin soon...

Battery Life 3500mah

Anyone try those 3500mah batteries off eBay? What kind of added lifetime does one get from those? Fraud issues?
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MoCoTerp said:
Anyone try those 3500mah batteries off eBay? What kind of added lifetime does one get from those? Fraud issues?
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I bought this one
http://gorillagadgets.com/samsung-epic-4g-extended-battery-3500mah-with-back-plate.html
and it has worked really well for me. no worries about a bad product or fraud from these guys. For $27 (I bought it for 24.99 but it didn't come with the fancy gorilla graphic on the battery)

How much extra time did this buy you, double? Thanks.
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Got me about 50% more...not double.
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The 3500mah batteries are all really 2400mah batteries. There is a huge thread in accessories on them that I started.
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For a twenty percent boost get the battery for the epic touch. Fits the OG epic just fine without changing battery cover. Might be able to sweet talk a sprint store into giving you one free if you go and complain about battery life and they happen to have one in the back from a returned ET. Battery looks the same, is slightly heavier and has 1800 mah stamped on it.
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I have it and really dont notice too much diff under regular use. Mine was like $12, so it just makes for a spare that came in handy several times.

I bought a pair of the 8$ 3500's off ebay and a 4$ wall charger. Phone will do 48 hours with light use. When I get a new game I can blow through one while charging the other.

So far, after a full charge and battery wipe, my battery life on cyanogen7 is as epic as my epic. Definitely notice a difference from the 1800mah to the stock 1500mah battery.
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I've noticed a pretty nice improvement from the 8 dollar one on ebay, I wouldn't say double either, but may 60 to 70 percent. I have been tweaking things for battery life recently, so that might be another thing that helps.

I am a pretty light user, I don't play games. On midNIGHT ROM 5.3 I went 6 days between charging. Of course that is with everything you can turn off; off.
Then I decided; why did I pay this money for this phone to use it like an old samsung a05?? (ok dated myself there).
I usually get 3-4 days texting, phone calls, weather updates, emails and poking around on the market.
randomrom rocks for excellent battery life.