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Which is the best one out there?
On my Hero I used Power Manager and it was ok, but not been updated forever.
Juice defender I wasn't very keen on and i've not found too many other good options.
What is everyone using?
juice defender as it was reccomended. what didnt you like about it?
juice defender works fine for me
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Are you using the free version or the paid one?
the free one.
There's one handy widget that you can download called "Power Control" from the Android Marketplace. It allows you to toggle wifi, changing backlight and so on the home screen.
It's also been discussed that by applying simple things, like a black wallpaper, can save battery life as opposed to a colour intensive/live wallpaper.
Am i right in stating that it seems that these programs will effect how push emails/messages (GTalk).
It would be good if there was an app out there that changed the connection from 3G to 2G if the screen was off or phone was inactive for x amount of time, this way, the phone can still function as it was designed to and still achieves the goal of saving battery power.
i have noticed with 3rd party and blur widget that switch the gps on and off that (at least on mine) it does not turn on what it turns off.
if you use a widget it will turn off:
use wireless networks
use GPS satellites
enable assisted GPS
but when you turn the GPS back on it only turns on "use GPS satellites".
how do i get it to turn on aGPS as well?
I wish my DX did that, lol. As far as I can tell it still suffers from the GPS bug or whatever it is. (Where after the GPS is used, it won't let the phone sleep properly.) Sometimes I get pretty decent battery life, and other times it gets horrible battery life. I've tried using task managers and not using task managers, but still haven't quite decided what the best setup is. All I know is after going from my highly modded G1 to the stock DX (1.5 or 1.6 for the G1 vs 2.1 for the DX) I am still very much in love with the android OS, and the hardware I'm on now compared to the G1 hardware makes me breathe a sigh of relief.
As for a solution to your problem, you might be able to try the app Tasker? I am trying to hold off on getting it until 2.2 to see how much the official 2.2 release is going to help my phone, but I may just get it anyways for its other handy uses besides helping conserve battery. From what I understand, power management apps can't directly turn on and off certain functions like you are talking about. They can only bring you to the settings screen or perform similar tasks automatically. I'm wondering if 2.2 addresses things like that myself.
OK, so I'm a noob (to evo) and can't post on the dev thread for the Alliance 7.7 ROM so I'm going to throw this out here and hope for a response.
I tried RLS1 and didn't like it, there was some functions that irritated me so I went back to 7.7.
I like 7.7, I've got it stable, no sense reloads and I love the functionality.
However, my battery life is atrocious!!! I thought this was supposed to help save batt life??? I burned about 50% batt life in less than 3 hours in sleep mode!??
What did I do wrong??
I've been experimenting with Task Killer, Juice Defender and other supposedly power "saving" apps and settings but I haven't found the "holy grail" yet.
I'd really like someone to point me in the right direction if at all possible..Thanks!
Did you try calibrating your battery when you first flashed the rom?
Try downloading the battery calibration app by nema from the market.
https://market.android.com/details?id=com.nema.batterycalibration
What PRI do u have? If you go into settings and about phone (I'm not exactly sure if that's the correct path) it should tell you. If your running something newer than 1.77 some phones have a wake issue where it wont let the phone sleep with newer PRI's. Try downgrading to 1.77, the wake issue should then be gone.
You can get PRI 1.77 from here just make sure you backup your WiMax keys before you flash, you know just in case something goes wrong. : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=715485
Maybe its one of the apps that your using that's not letting your phone sleep hence your battery drain. Spare parts on the market should show you if any apps are keeping your phone awake.
https://market.android.com/details?id=com.androidapps.spare_parts
Or your battery is going bad? I was having such horrible battery life with my Evo that after a while it just couldn't hold a charge anymore. I purchased a new one and all is well now.
Try an AOSP rom? AOSP roms tend to have better battery life than Sense roms. They don't have many services running in the background eating up memory.
I can't think of anything else anymore but hope this helps!
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Did you try calibrating your battery when you first flashed the rom?
Try downloading the battery calibration app by nema from the market.
https://market.android.com/details?id=com.nema.batterycalibration
What PRI do u have? If you go into settings and about phone (I'm not exactly sure if that's the correct path) it should tell you. If your running something newer than 1.77 some phones have a wake issue where it wont let the phone sleep with newer PRI's. Try downgrading to 1.77, the wake issue should then be gone.
You can get PRI 1.77 from here just make sure you backup your WiMax keys before you flash, you know just in case something goes wrong. : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=715485
Maybe its one of the apps that your using that's not letting your phone sleep hence your battery drain. Spare parts on the market should show you if any apps are keeping your phone awake.
https://market.android.com/details?id=com.androidapps.spare_parts
Or your battery is going bad? I was having such horrible battery life with my Evo that after a while it just couldn't hold a charge anymore. I purchased a new one and all is well now.
Try an AOSP rom? AOSP roms tend to have better battery life than Sense roms. They don't have many services running in the background eating up memory.
I can't think of anything else anymore but hope this helps!
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Our of stupidity but, how exactly can you back up your WiMax Keys? Where can you go? Lol sorry, feel free to troll on me for asking that
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Lol Oh no none of that. I don't troll on anyone for not knowing something, we've all been there. Are you using amon ra recovery 2.3? If so, boot into recovery, go to backup/restore, nandroid backup and then it'll give u a list of things you might want to select to backup. Just unselect everything, select wimax and then select perform backup. It should take a couple of mins and then your done.
Actually I'm using ClockWork Mod 2.6 just seemed easier to me than AmonRa. (weird I know). but ok, nand back up and just select the WiMax info??
Also, v7.7 had an undervolt script built into it that some phones, mine included don't like. Might try flashing alliance rls2. Had the script removed.
tony0691 said:
Did you try calibrating your battery when you first flashed the rom?
Try downloading the battery calibration app by nema from the market.
https://market.android.com/details?id=com.nema.batterycalibration
What PRI do u have? If you go into settings and about phone (I'm not exactly sure if that's the correct path) it should tell you. If your running something newer than 1.77 some phones have a wake issue where it wont let the phone sleep with newer PRI's. Try downgrading to 1.77, the wake issue should then be gone.
You can get PRI 1.77 from here just make sure you backup your WiMax keys before you flash, you know just in case something goes wrong. : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=715485
Maybe its one of the apps that your using that's not letting your phone sleep hence your battery drain. Spare parts on the market should show you if any apps are keeping your phone awake.
https://market.android.com/details?id=com.androidapps.spare_parts
Or your battery is going bad? I was having such horrible battery life with my Evo that after a while it just couldn't hold a charge anymore. I purchased a new one and all is well now.
Try an AOSP rom? AOSP roms tend to have better battery life than Sense roms. They don't have many services running in the background eating up memory.
I can't think of anything else anymore but hope this helps!
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thanks for the info, I think the battery calibration helped a little, only 30% depleted after about 8 hours with moderate use.
I found I do have a newer PRI, version 1.90_003
Before I go messing with it, what is the PRI and what does it do?
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Also, v7.7 had an undervolt script built into it that some phones, mine included don't like. Might try flashing alliance rls2. Had the script removed.
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one of the reasons I didn't like RLS1 was the way they had the personalize button set to open the Kingsrom website. Did they change that, or is there a way to change it?
oi, I had things going pretty well with 7.7 but it started getting glitchy and slow. Don't know why because once I had everything running smooth I didn't mess with it anymore. Reboot helped for a little while but started glitching again shortly after.
I decided to go to RLS2, it's running smooth but my lockscreen shortcuts have dissapeared and I can't get them back, any ideas on that??
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oi, I had things going pretty well with 7.7 but it started getting glitchy and slow. Don't know why because once I had everything running smooth I didn't mess with it anymore. Reboot helped for a little while but started glitching again shortly after.
I decided to go to RLS2, it's running smooth but my lockscreen shortcuts have dissapeared and I can't get them back, any ideas on that??
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You might try going into your personalize settings and select a different lock screen, I know there are a couple that take that certain option away LOL I use the weather one with the app selector or the wallpaper with the app selector. Hope it helps
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dgomez720 said:
You might try going into your personalize settings and select a different lock screen, I know there are a couple that take that certain option away LOL I use the weather one with the app selector or the wallpaper with the app selector. Hope it helps
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no good, lock screen isn't displaying the way it should, tried several and nothing changes.
Did a factory reset and the lock screen is working correctly again. There must have been something that glitched when I restored my settings.
Tried restoring my backups and it the lock screen isn't right again. So I guess I either live with it or start from scratch again..
Heyo bros so I'm experiencing what I'm afraid might be a problem:
I've been getting watchdog alerts regarding the "Base System" process. It notifies me that the CPU % at the time of the captures range from 40% to 60+%. Coincidence or not, it usually happens when I wake my phone from sleep- not when I unlock it, just when I press the power button. The moment the lock screen pops up, the phone's already vibrating and the watchdog notification is up in the status bar.
Battery life so far is:
9h 22m @ 74%; Phone Idle- 56% | Cell Standby- 22% | Display 17% (40m) | Android OS 3% | Voice calls- 3%
Who knows, maybe this^ looks normal. I just want to be sure.
I've heard talk of 'wakelocks' but I don't know exactly what they are, what might cause them, and how I can track them.
I'm currently running:
Atrix 4G (not 2, just for clarification)
CM7 xB^xN
Baseband reads: N_01.77.30P
Kernel version reads: 2.6.32.39-MB860-GB-Faux123-v0.2.1 [email protected] #14
Build number: GWK74
Totally honest, I don't know if that might be able to help diagnose the problem, but for what it's worth, I want to check two things:
1) I flashed Faux's enhanced stock CM7 kernel, and am pretty sure it took, but does that look to be the proper kernel version? I just want to be sure.
2) While I also flashed the "latest radio" in the CM7 xB^xN thread, I was certain there was an xx.97 radio (vs the x.77 radio that mine appears to currently have). Am I indeed on the latest radio version?
Would it hurt to reflash these two? Could either one, or maybe both, be the cause of this?
It also occurs to me: I've been using SetCPU and have ONE profile set up that forces my CPU to min/max 216/216 when the screen is off. Could that be causing it?
Thanks so much for any and all insight bros. Also, please let me know if there's any more info you might want to help diagnose what the dealio is.
Heyo guys,
I hate to bump this kinda soon, but this is definitely a problem.
It's getting to be that I don't even have to wake the phone up for the Base System to spike. I was woken up a couple times in the middle of the night by notifications saying it was really high.
You guys have any thoughts? I'd really like to get this resolved as CM7 is AWESOME.
Yes, you guessed it- I'm not anal about the fingerprint scanner or webtop. Just a stable and fully functional release.
Thanks for any help bros I really appreciate it.
Hi, new member here.
I get the same weird spike to 50-60% (and was woken up too in the middle of the night by watchdog). I have narrowed this occurrence to when I have both Watchdog & Juice Defender enabled at the same time. (Yeah it took me a while to figure out)
When I disable Juice defender the problem seems to go away. So I'm thinking one of the power saving settings turns the radio off & a core system process really does not like that.
This is on a non-rooted Atrix, I have not tested on a rooted Atrix.
So far I had to turn off the watchdog alarm so I can sleep. If anyone can think of a solution it would be appreciated!
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Hi, new member here.
I get the same weird spike to 50-60% (and was woken up too in the middle of the night by watchdog). I have narrowed this occurrence to when I have both Watchdog & Juice Defender enabled at the same time. (Yeah it took me a while to figure out)
When I disable Juice defender the problem seems to go away. So I'm thinking one of the power saving settings turns the radio off & a core system process really does not like that.
This is on a non-rooted Atrix, I have not tested on a rooted Atrix.
So far I had to turn off the watchdog alarm so I can sleep. If anyone can think of a solution it would be appreciated!
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Thanks for the insight bro. For what it's worth, I'm not running Juice defender, or any other kind of battery saver app.
Looks like a couple of us are having problems then, though. We'd both really appreciate any info, advice, or help.
Ok, it seems it was just a coincidence with Juice Defender then.
The problem may be unrelated to power savings, but it is indeed a problem.
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For what it's worth, I'm not running Juice defender, or any other kind of battery saver app.
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Ok, it seems it was just a coincidence with Juice Defender then.
The problem may be unrelated to power savings, but it is indeed a problem.
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It doesn't have to be unrelated to power saving just because xyrovice is not running Juice Defender, there is a option for power saving in the battery settings for the Atrix that does a similar function.. Before ruling out power savings as unrelated I would make sure xyrovice is set to "performance mode".
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It doesn't have to be unrelated to power saving just because xyrovice is not running Juice Defender, there is a option for power saving in the battery settings for the Atrix that does a similar function.. Before ruling out power savings as unrelated I would make sure xyrovice is set to "performance mode".
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I'm running CM7 and skimmed through the settings menu and didn't find anything about 0ower features. I know that in Blue ROMs there's the battery manager section, but I don't think CM7 has this. Anything else I should look at, though?
Thanks for the insight too bro.
xyrovice said:
I'm running CM7 and skimmed through the settings menu and didn't find anything about 0ower features. I know that in Blue ROMs there's the battery manager section, but I don't think CM7 has this. Anything else I should look at, though?
Thanks for the insight too bro.
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oIc, no I dont guess you will have those settings in CM, I should have thought of that. I wish I could help because I had the exact same prob with Watchdog constantly alerting for "Android Core Processes" and "Android Media processes", but I dont get those alerts anymore. I haven't changed ROMs or anything.. The only thing I can think of is I changed the MinFree values, I used the app "AutoKiller Memory Optimizer" to change them.
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oIc, no I dont guess you will have those settings in CM, I should have thought of that. I wish I could help because I had the exact same prob with Watchdog constantly alerting for "Android Core Processes" and "Android Media processes", but I dont get those alerts anymore. I haven't changed ROMs or anything.. The only thing I can think of is I changed the MinFree values, I used the app "AutoKiller Memory Optimizer" to change them.
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Do you know why that seemed to solve the problem...or if it even WAS the problem, per se?
Also, is there any reason CM7 would have the minfree set to a default that causes this?
Lastly, what did you alter the minfree values to? You think ROM toolbox might have this capability?
Thanks so much for saying this bro. Who knows, this might be the problem.
PS: I just tried this and am going to see if it works. Post #13 is the one that would really sum up my reaction of successful.
Hopefully maybe this helps my other bros.
xyrovice said:
1Do you know why that seemed to solve the problem...or if it even WAS the problem, per se?
2Also, is there any reason CM7 would have the minfree set to a default that causes this?
3Lastly, what did you alter the minfree values to? You think ROM toolbox might have this capability?
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1.) no I can't say for sure what the problem was or why I no longer get the Watchdog alerts. I was just trying to think what I have changed since they stopped because I haven't changed ROMs.. Since changing the MinFree has to do with how many or what apps are left running I'm just kinda throwing it out there as a possibility since your at a loss for things to try.
2.) no I can't think of any reason, and most with CM don't have this prob right..?
3.) It's posible it does have the capability because it does allot but I am not sure.
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possible solutionary steps I've taken:
So Update:
I actually ended up checking out my (partial) Wakelocks with betterbatterystats, and I think I may have found a problem (diagnosed with alarmdump.txt from the Alarm Manager):
1) When I first flashed CM7 I thought, "Oh well why not really get comprehensive about keeping apps up to date" and I actually, for every single app, checked the "Automatically update" box in each one's market page. This led to a CATACLYSMIC wakelock that I'm now pretty sure could be the problem.
2)Google talk also seemed to be a little active with the screen off so I unticked the "sign me in auto..." box and made sure I signed out.
Lastly (not related to wakelocks), I checked on my TTS settings (see my last post about that).
Oh also LASTLY lastly I froze the modem fastdormancy manager in TiBU (kinda just for ****s and giggles). That said though, is the consensus on this that it's pretty harmless?
So, other bro who was having a problem, check and see if this might help you at all AYY
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1.) no I can't say for sure what the problem was or why I no longer get the Watchdog alerts. I was just trying to think what I have changed since they stopped because I haven't changed ROMs.. Since changing the MinFree has to do with how many or what apps are left running I'm just kinda throwing it out there as a possibility since your at a loss for things to try.
2.) no I can't think of any reason, and most with CM don't have this prob right..?
3.) It's posible it does have the capability because it does allot but I am not sure.
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Thanks for posting this. I checked ROM toolbox and it does indeed have the capability. That said, if my aforementioned possible solutions don't work, I'm turning here. Thanks for the info bro.
Watchdog is flagging the "base process" app because IT IS using over 60% of your CPU BUT it is using 60% of your CPU that is running at 216MHZ.
It's your screen off setcpu profile of 216/216, if you bump up the max to 456 the alert will go away. When you have it set as 216/216 Watchdog (I believe) thinks that is the actual max cpu speed and bases its percentages off of that. I got that warning before and after a bit of troubleshooting (actually tried several different things) found that was the problem.
I am not sure but if you "whitelist" a app in watchdog it might ignore it as well. However my alert level was set at 80% and it would still set it off, so I think the higher speed might just be better.
Anybody got some good battery life tweaks w/ 4G?
I just upgraded to a 4G plan and my previous vanilla (rooted) install with minimal tweaks is seeing far worse battery life lol.
I've turned off as much syncing as I can deal with, made sure latitude is off and gtalk is signed out. Aside from that does anyone have any tips aside from turning off 4G (sob)?
Auto brightness works for me. I keep GPS and WiFi off until I use them. You could also use the One Power Guard app. It was reviewed here recently. I get around 4 hours on screen time with heavy use. That's one day normally for me.
I use AI mode only for the most part. Occasionally I use Power saving mode in the OPG app. Try it out. Let me know what you think.
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is it the mobile data signal that is killing the battery (looking at the battery stats)?
If so, could recommend an app like "AutomateIt" that turns mobile data off at a certain time of the night to help. It also helps for turning on GPS when certain apps are open.
Some tips could be:
1. Get Battery Widget App to make the phone enter AIRPLANE MODE at nights from 2 am or so til your wake up time.
2. Install Notification TOGGLE and INCLUDE LTE as a toggle, then choose CDMA instead WCDMA (or equivalent if HSDPA choose GSM) when you doesnt need the download speed and still need to mantain email and contacts notifications. Just change back when u require speed.
thanks guys looking at it from a 'do not have to turn off beautiful 4G' type question (radio tweaks? lol) but appreciate the ideas.
In all honesty its not that bad, it now has settled down to from 'great battery life' to 'about same as other smartphones' level lol, I guess auto toggling from tasker or the suggested above apps would be the key
check out an app on the play store called "Juice Defender", works like a charm.
Avoid task killer apps. They don't do any good. Some apps are culprits of battery drain (meaning they misbehave and eat up your memory)
Install system panel lite and turn on system monitor for a day to see which apps are hogging up memory.
Also it is courtesy to hit the thank you button when someone helps you. Just a tip from your friendly neighborhood spiderman.
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Anybody got some good battery life tweaks w/ 4G?
I just upgraded to a 4G plan and my previous vanilla (rooted) install with minimal tweaks is seeing far worse battery life lol.
I've turned off as much syncing as I can deal with, made sure latitude is off and gtalk is signed out. Aside from that does anyone have any tips aside from turning off 4G (sob)?
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Haha! I warned u... ... I did notice the battery takes some time to condition tho. Good luck!
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