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Don't know if this would actually work but it's better trying than doing nothing.
ReTweet this or create your own tweet asking Asus to unlock their boot loader and give us better root access to their transformer:
Edited tweet: https://twitter.com/#!/stevegaron/status/76007197145960448
We may want to speak up on their facebook page too... http://www.facebook.com/ASUS?sk=wall
It worked for HTC...
Tenny said:
It worked for HTC...
(FYI: Easier not easyier)
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Damn! I think I made it obvious that english is not my first language... I changed the tweet...
steve.garon said:
Damn! I think I made it obvious that english is not my first language... I changed the tweet...
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Wait so we aren't going to resort to kidnappings and firebombs....man, hate this place.
I'm confused.
I thought the bootloader was unlocked...
Or are you talking about APX mode being locked? If that's the case, then I'm with you on that one. Without a functioning APX mode, I am scared to do anything to my Eee Pad. I couldn't count how many times I've soft bricked my GTab and APX saved my bum!
and why should this thread be in the development section?
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and why should this thread be in the development section?
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Just because it would help make dev easier. So I thought it belong here.
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KnightCrusader said:
I thought the bootloader was unlocked...
Or are you talking about APX mode being locked? If that's the case, then I'm with you on that one. Without a functioning APX mode, I am scared to do anything to my Eee Pad. I couldn't count how many times I've soft bricked my GTab and APX saved my bum!
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Unless I misunderstood what lock bootloader are, I beleive its locked. It requires root to flash another recovery/rom and requires an exploit to get root. That pretty locked for me
I would be much more fun if you could just do a fasboot flash recovery like the Nexus phones ;-)
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Did my part on facebook....
I posted on their wall too
hope they follow like HTC did
steve.garon said:
Unless I misunderstood what lock bootloader are, I beleive its locked. It requires root to flash another recovery/rom and requires an exploit to get root. That pretty locked for me
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Go to the Acer Iconia A500 forums, and then you'll find out what a "locked bootloader" really is.
What you should really be asking for is simply official root access, without having to find an exploit. Note that HTC have only said they are ending their policy of locking the bootloaders on their phones - as far as I'm aware they've said nothing about giving official root access.
Regards,
Dave
The never ending discussion about what a locked bootloader is, is useless because it depends on your definition on "locked". If "locked" means that it checks signatures before flashing or booting, then yes, the Eee Pad bootloader is unlocked. If however "locked" means that you have no way of recovering from a system/recovery fail, then the ASUS EeePad is very well locked down. The only way around this would be fastboot and/or nvflash access which we don't have.
So as opposed to the Xoom or other Tegra devices like the G2x etc, the ASUS bootloader is locked, and the only way of flashing boot/recovery is through a (admittedly simple) reverse engineering process. That is a shame, and also could be locked down anytime by ASUS if they were sigchecking those updates in the bootloader (though I think that's unlikely to happen).
So in my opinion ASUS shouldn't announce that the bootloader is open etc, when at the same time they do not provide a documented flashing method.
Equally though, I agree that there is no practical sense in complaining or doing further work on this, because all people care about is flashing boot/recovery (unless they are bricked of course...).
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The never ending discussion about what a locked bootloader is, is useless because it depends on your definition on "locked". If "locked" means that it checks signatures before flashing or booting, then yes, the Eee Pad bootloader is unlocked. If however "locked" means that you have no way of recovering from a system/recovery fail, then the ASUS EeePad is very well locked down. The only way around this would be fastboot and/or nvflash access which we don't have.
So as opposed to the Xoom or other Tegra devices like the G2x etc, the ASUS bootloader is locked, and the only way of flashing boot/recovery is through a (admittedly simple) reverse engineering process. That is a shame, and also could be locked down anytime by ASUS if they were sigchecking those updates in the bootloader (though I think that's unlikely to happen).
So in my opinion ASUS shouldn't announce that the bootloader is open etc, when at the same time they do not provide a documented flashing method.
Equally though, I agree that there is no practical sense in complaining or doing further work on this, because all people care about is flashing boot/recovery (unless they are bricked of course...).
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Well put. We need either fastboot or Nvflash access.. just eliminates any sort of risk we have while messing with our TFs
r34p3rex said:
Well put. We need either fastboot or Nvflash access.. just eliminates any sort of risk we have while messing with our TFs
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Then that's what should be asked of Asus, rather than "unlocked bootloader" which is open to interpretation!
Regards,
Dave
I don't think that downgrading is a viable option for installing a custom Rom. Just because we can downgrade now, doesn't mean we will be able to in the future. Beside, having to rely on an exploit is also to me not a viable option. I'd rather have the exploits fixed! It's safer that way.
The fact that the boot loader is not signed, NAND locked or encrypted is a big plus and I congratulate Asus for this. It's a good design decision. But the missing ingredient for the completely unlock bootloader is the tool the allows us to flash anything from the bootloader...
If in the end Asus give us fastboot/nvflash access to the bootloader well to me its a win for all Transformer's owners. This is even a win for Asus because most devs would go for hardware that they can easily modify which would increase sales. (Not that sales are a problem right now.. )
How's this then?
Please @Asus give us a fastboot/nvflash and official root access - like the Google Nexus phones - for your amazing #eeepadtransformer!
jerdog said:
How's this then?
Please @Asus give us a fastboot/nvflash and official root access - like the Google Nexus phones - for your amazing #eeepadtransformer!
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Works for me... Tweet it!
steve.garon said:
Works for me... Tweet it!
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http://twitter.com/#!/jerdog76/status/76296399330873346
done.
foxmeister said:
Then that's what should be asked of Asus, rather than "unlocked bootloader" which is open to interpretation!
Regards,
Dave
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Yeah, thats what I asked them for when I posted a message on their Facebook wall.
I just posted on their FB page
I posted a question on the Motorola Support forums, wondering if Moto would supply an unlocked bootloader on AT&T, like HTC has done. I got the following response;
https://forums.motorola.com/posts/6dab21b4eb
Comment: The upgrade to Gingerbread included an unlockable bootloader. Check out the forums over at XDA Developers for more info. But beware once unlocked you can't flash back to Froyo (why would you?) without bricking.
I don't think this was the case, is this guy right?
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I posted a question on the Motorola Support forums, wondering if Moto would supply an unlocked bootloader on AT&T, like HTC has done. I got the following response;
https://forums.motorola.com/posts/6dab21b4eb
Comment: The upgrade to Gingerbread included an unlockable bootloader. Check out the forums over at XDA Developers for more info. But beware once unlocked you can't flash back to Froyo (why would you?) without bricking.
I don't think this was the case, is this guy right?
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Yes. 10 char
There was a leaked Gingerbread build that had an unlockable bootloader which was then taken and turned into "Pudding".
The official release of Gingerbread did not have an unlockable bootloader which is why Pudding is necessary.
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I posted a question on the Motorola Support forums, wondering if Moto would supply an unlocked bootloader on AT&T, like HTC has done. I got the following response;
https://forums.motorola.com/posts/6dab21b4eb
Comment: The upgrade to Gingerbread included an unlockable bootloader. Check out the forums over at XDA Developers for more info. But beware once unlocked you can't flash back to Froyo (why would you?) without bricking.
I don't think this was the case, is this guy right?
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Yes. 10 char
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live4nyy said:
There was a leaked Gingerbread build that had an unlockable bootloader which was then taken and turned into "Pudding".
The official release of Gingerbread did not have an unlockable bootloader which is why Pudding is necessary.
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Thank you, that's what I thought.
and here i thought it was automatically unlocked when i updated to gingerbread...thanks for the clarifying this!
I had a interesting Chat session today with a Moto CSR here is the log:
Me: I purchased a Used Motorola Droid RAZR HD (Verizon) Retail Version Phone. The purpose was to work on android development. I am interested in unlocking my bootloader for that purpose. The phone itself is out of warranty and therefore I am not concerned about voiding the non-existent warranty. Your Bootloader Unlock webpage here seems to not allow me to do so as it is not developer edition.
Me: From my understanding a Dev Version is the only phone listed. However as previously stated I am out of warranty and wondering if it were possible through customer support to unlock my bootloader.
Gerald Ray: I see. Thanks for the information. Please know that here with Motorola we do not advice to unlock the Bootloader of our phones and for that we don't have steps to do it. If you need further assistance, you may check our nearest Repair Center in your area.
Me: Sorry your response is not clarifying.
Me: Is it possible to unlock the bootloader of a Retail XT926 Motorola Droid RAZR HD that is a Non-Developer version?
Gerald Ray: Yes, it is possible.
Me: I live in Sacramento California where is the nearest Motorola Repair center?
Gerald Ray: This is the site to check: http://www.service-center-locator.com/motorola/motorola-service-center.htm
Gerald Ray: Is there anything else that I can assist you today aside from this?
Me: based on the information provided it seems there are no service centers in my immediate area
Gerald Ray: I understand. You may check the nearest one.
Me: Does this require for me to be there in person?
Gerald Ray: You may try calling them first. We have phone numbers from that site.
Me: Ok thank you
I have emailed three of the service centers provided on the webpage he indicated to get their response to this possibility. I will update the thread once I get confirmation or denial of the ability to unlock the bootloader from the service center.
This thread has potential!
As long as the latest ota hasn't been applied, you can unlock the boot loader. Not sure why you're going through all the hassles of calling a csr.
That is unless you're talking about a phone that does have the latest ota which patches the boot loader unlock exploit.
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I hoping it works because I have a RAZR Maxx HD... That I would like to unlock the boatloader.
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TheGman125 said:
I hoping it works because I have a RAZR Maxx HD... That I would like to unlock the boatloader.
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Unless another exploit has been found for the latest ota, and believe me we would know if there was, you will not be able to unlock the bootloader unless the phone was already unlocked before the ota.
The ability to unlock the bootloader on the hds was due to a security exploit in the code that existed before the latest ota. Using this exploit, Dan came up with code that fooled the phone into unlocking the bootloader. Once it did this, there was an eFuse that was blown to signal that the bootloader was unlocked. This fuse cannot be reset ever back to a locked state.
However, if you applied the ota before unlocking the bootloader, then what the ota did was patch/fix the exploit which means Dan's unlocking code no longer works, therefore you cannot unlock the bootloader.
It took Dan a long time to find the exploit. He has stated he does not have the time to look for a different one. In fact, there may not be another one. We were lucky that the first one was even found.
So unless Motorola decides to allow the hds to be part of the unlocking tool, I would not hold my breath.
The only other hope for you is if someone were to get kexec running on the HD. However, since because of the (now closed) exploit, no one has attempted it. Since a lot of people have their phones unlocked, I don't think the developers are working on kexec.
Plus, with the HDs being about a year old, and newer phones especially are being released, I just don't see anyone putting forth the time and effort to do this.
But, you could always put out a bounty to see if you raise enough cash to give someone if they attempt and succeed. Usually these don't result in anything coming to fruition.
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iBolski said:
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Unless another exploit has been found for the latest ota, and believe me we would know if there was, you will not be able to unlock the bootloader unless the phone was already unlocked before the ota.
The ability to unlock the bootloader on the hds was due to a security exploit in the code that existed before the latest ota. Using this exploit, Dan came up with code that fooled the phone into unlocking the bootloader. Once it did this, there was an eFuse that was blown to signal that the bootloader was unlocked. This fuse cannot be reset ever back to a locked state.
However, if you applied the ota before unlocking the bootloader, then what the ota did was patch/fix the exploit which means Dan's unlocking code no longer works, therefore you cannot unlock the bootloader.
It took Dan a long time to find the exploit. He has stated he does not have the time to look for a different one. In fact, there may not be another one. We were lucky that the first one was even found.
So unless Motorola decides to allow the hds to be part of the unlocking tool, I would not hold my breath.
The only other hope for you is if someone were to get kexec running on the HD. However, since because of the (now closed) exploit, no one has attempted it. Since a lot of people have their phones unlocked, I don't think the developers are working on kexec.
Plus, with the HDs being about a year old, and newer phones especially are being released, I just don't see anyone putting forth the time and effort to do this.
But, you could always put out a bounty to see if you raise enough cash to give someone if they attempt and succeed. Usually these don't result in anything coming to fruition.
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That sounds like a good idea... Would you be able to help with that? The devices are still good and a lot of people like my self would like to try 4.3 and get that great battery life on most if my devices.
Now, could we create community in Google+ and twitter to increase awareness of the bounty?
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Since my tiny hopes of N5 coming on Verizon is now official dashed, I need to unlock my phone...
i'll be patiently waiting for this thread to update!
Sorry to bring up an old thread, but apparently, no news from the op with a reply is bad news.
I know there seems to be a lot of dead threads about unlocking the boot loader etc..
Isn't it just possible to jtag read a developer and then just jtag that info to a non dev edition or is it not that simple ?
No it is not that simple...each dev device has its own specific bootloader key per say that keeps that from being a possibility. That is why Samsung is not supporting Dev editions with updates
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No it is not that simple...each dev device has its own specific bootloader key per say that keeps that from being a possibility. That is why Samsung is not supporting Dev editions with updates
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But the dev ed has an unlocked boootloader. I guess ATM only the ss will work 4 the retail.
Any news from Nate on his note 3 rom?
TIA
droidstyle said:
No it is not that simple...each dev device has its own specific bootloader key per say that keeps that from being a possibility. That is why Samsung is not supporting Dev editions with updates
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Honestly that doesn't even make sense. I'm talking about a hardware level flash.
How is it that on nexus devices you can download new versions of the boot loader etc ?
My guess here is that no one has successfully jtagged a note 3 yet
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LG is not releasing nothing.
I have sold my G3 yesterday
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LG has just answered me about my request to have an official LG G3 bootloader unlock solution !!!!
Dear *******
Thank you for your feedback regarding bootloader unlock and
we are sorry for any inconvenience and disappointment that have been caused by lack of support for bootloader unlock on the latest LG smartphones.
We are already aware of many developers’ requests and opinions on bootloader unlock.
So we have been preparing a server to provide safer bootloader unlock.
Also, we are internally discussing the target model and the time of providing bootloader unlock.
However, it will take some more time due to the technical restrictions, security issues, and the policy of mobile carriers.
We deeply apologize that we are unable to support bootloader unlock right now and would like to ask for your kind understanding.
We will let you know more specific information when the support policy for bootloader unlock is decided.
Best Regards,
LG
We'll have an official Bootloader solution for G3 in few time !!!!
p.s. : Personally i grant LG until the end of August.
If in this time they don't officially release nothing, i'll let my final considerations about this device....
Cool victory [emoji1]
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wolfgart said:
Enjoy Guys !!!
LG has just answered me about my request to have an official LG G3 bootloader unlock solution !!!!
Dear *******
Thank you for your feedback regarding bootloader unlock and
we are sorry for any inconvenience and disappointment that have been caused by lack of support for bootloader unlock on the latest LG smartphones.
We are already aware of many developers’ requests and opinions on bootloader unlock.
So we have been preparing a server to provide safer bootloader unlock.
Also, we are internally discussing the target model and the time of providing bootloader unlock.
However, it will take some more time due to the technical restrictions, security issues, and the policy of mobile carriers.
We deeply apologize that we are unable to support bootloader unlock right now and would like to ask for your kind understanding.
We will let you know more specific information when the support policy for bootloader unlock is decided.
Best Regards,
LG
We'll have an official Bootloader solution for G3 in few time !!!!
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Great work!
Good news....finally I decide, for do not sell my G3
OMG,good news,yeeaaahh...
That's awesome news.
So sometime before the G3 becomes obsolete then.. Im not holding my breath for it being this year.
This would be most excellent.
What means? What are the advantages of unlocked bootloader?
Bull**** talk if you ask me!
Is it Ture?
LPirro said:
What means? What are the advantages of unlocked bootloader?
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Is it joke ? You are senior member and does not know advantages of unlocked bootloader ?
Please use search for explanation.
About time
keltonfan said:
Is it Ture?
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Sure. This is true bro.
I'm a known user here in LG section....
Look all my posts...
it took for so long.... finally !!!!:good:
tin2404 said:
Is it joke ? You are senior member and does not know advantages of unlocked bootloader ?
Please use search for explanation.
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I unlocked the bootloader on Nexus 5 for root, recovery, etc. But don't know the advantages on G3. I think it's the same, for install AOSP ROMs, etc.
wolfgart said:
Sure. This is true bro.
I'm a known user here in LG section....
Look all my posts...
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Thank you I mean LG really want to unlock for us?
keltonfan said:
Thank you I mean LG really want to unlock for us?
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For sure.
They have looked around and undestood they could loose too many customers.
They will do an HTC similar solution
Wicked news, made my day
We will see if this is true and they actually stick to their word, or either it was an email just to get a reply and they just keep going about their daily routines. Im still banking on one of the devs to make a solution before LG.