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I will have to admit that I have been a HTC WinMo fan boy for the last 6yrs. Wm was not perfect but, it got the job done. Custom roms were good but, they always had bugs. So when I got my EPIC an my first android phone I was blown away. The speed how well everything worked together. I was amazed how people complained about touchwiz. I don't see anything wrong with it. Maybe because I don't know of any better interface. It not as flashy as HTC sense but, it seems fast.
I hear alot of nitpicking here about the phone. They compare stock EPIC roms to Custom roms on other phone. Not realizing that everyone doesn't like the custom rom you love. I don't know of anything being perfect. But, some of the people that bought this phone were expecting more.
I love the phone. I just wanted to know what others think.
I'm amazed by it. Every time I get a spare second, I want to pick it up and play with it.
I really like the design of the phone more than the other Galaxy S variants. The soft touch back reminds me of the EVO, and the screen looks so good sitting there with the phone turned off. Which brings me to my next point:
This screen is so brilliant. I've not noticed any of the issues people complain about. It's gorgeous. HD movies look better on the Epic than any other phone I've seen (EVO and iPhone 4). I constantly want to change my wallpaper.
The speed of this phone is fantastic. It's faster on 2.1 than my EVO is with CM6 (Froyo). I never used sense on my EVO. I actually stuck with touchwiz for a while before I finally installed launcher PRO. Again, Launcher Pro AND Touchwiz are faster than anything I put on my EVO. Menus scroll with no lag at all. Apps open very fast and games are perfect. I didn't like that a lot of games ran slow on the EVO... and some were downright unplayable. I'm a big gamer, so this is important.
The keyboard is pretty convenient. I use swype for most things... like texting, emailing, etc. But I love the keyboard for when I need to type numbers, usernames\passwords, website URLs, etc. I also use it for games\emulators.
All in all, I'm very happy with this phone. It's not for everybody, but it is definitely for me. I've actually made a few iPhone 4 users jealous. They were never jealous of my EVO
I love love love this phone. its deff worth the move after being an iPhone user for 2.5 years. I love the freedom I have to make and customize the phone to my taste vs just having a glass screen with shortcuts all over it. every time I wake my phone I swear I get more and more amazed by the screen quality lol.. the phone is very fast and snappy. the only complaint I seem to suffer from is my battery life =/ .. other than that this is deff an iPhone killer in my eyes.
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I freakin love this phone. So quick and buttery smooth. And it hasn't even gotten froyo yet.
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I freakin love this phone. So quick and buttery smooth. And it hasn't even gotten froyo yet.
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yea once it gets froyo, this phone.is gonna be tooo nasty
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yea once it gets froyo, this phone.is gonna be tooo nasty
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Dude.. when froyo hits this.. its gonna look like the Pillsbury Dough Boy Massacre! This ishow the other phones will look...
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ehh.. it's ok
REally want to see an update for the phone. +1 for the camera and keyboard and 16GB Sd. I still like the Evo but we'll see if that changes.
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yea once it gets froyo, this phone.is gonna be tooo nasty
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Rofl man I can't wait.
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Rofl man I can't wait.
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Imagine when we get Gingerbread? Oh wait, we already did!!
I do love some of the necro'd memories. I was still a guest lurker during this post.
Just wanted to know what the REAL reason is for the Vibrants Lag is? software or hardware. running test like CPU Benchmark,Quadrant Standard or Linpack. Seems to run a lot slower then almost all phones. like the G2 or the Mytouch 4G. Just to name a few. Thought The Cortex-A8 Hummingbird CPU was going to make the Vibrant super fast but that does not seem to be the case! I love my Vibrant and games run awesome on it for the most part but it sure lags up a lot! Rooted stock ROM with the T959UVJI6 Update. and using Launcher Pro Plus. Still love my Vibrant but would like to know why so slow on test and why so much Lag?
And I know there is a Lag fix but seem to be issues with that too. Thanks a million
You're comparing Eclair to Froyo and, in the G2's case, vanilla Android. Try running one of the Froyo builds and see if you have any lag. I'm running the Obsidian Froyo based on the T-Mo leak and have run Eugene's and both run with zero lag.
he's just a troll. everyone who used both knows full well that the Vibrant is way faster.
Not a freaking troll! Lol just wanted to know. Thats all no bigs. I love my Vibrant and not dissing it at all.was just asking a question since this the Vibrant Forum and all!
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RobBull69 thanks might try that. Yea I see your point. Lots of bloatware installed on Vibrant so makes since! Still think the Vibrant Rocks!
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To bad the g2 destroys it
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But the Vibrants Screen Destroys all other screens! Lol
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Anyways lets get back on topic here!
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Wow...you have a nice screen...woop dee doo. My phone has a keboard, something that actually improves the functionality of the phone. Oh yea, on top of that my doesn't feel like its made of plastic. Haha keep ur nices screen, ill take the better phone
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Now I smell a Troll in here! Lol anyways Vibrant still rocks!
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Good luck keeping the G2 rooted. Only soft rooted huh. Lol
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Yes, you're trolling, but I can't resist myself.
I had a G2. Traded it in for a Vibrant.
Enjoy your dust-collecting screen, crappy hinge, inability to flash roms, INCREDIBLY bad camera, and random hard resets.
Also, the G2 keyboard is a sad shadow of the Cliq keyboard.
pierre and darkside is probably the same kid lol. G2 sucks balls. My friend has it and it is freakin slow. The whole os lags lol. It gets what, 33 FPS on Nenamark? we get over 55 lol
Oh yeah, and good luck sending any text messages that have "stop" in them on your g2.
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lol the g2 cant even do tv out
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Good luck keeping the G2 rooted. Only soft rooted huh. Lol
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Yea...if only I was interested in rooting that would have been a clever comment
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We don't care if you have a better phone. Study your english first because your phone's keyboard is useless if you type with a **** grammar.
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Wow...best come back you could come up with lol? Thanks for recognizing that my english is determined by how I spell...on a forum...really keen of you there. you must have graduated from an accredited college and have a degree...oh wait no that's me . Ill give you another chance to actually make a good comeback
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pierre and darkside is probably the same kid lol. G2 sucks balls. My friend has it and it is freakin slow. The whole os lags lol. It gets what, 33 FPS on Nenamark? we get over 55 lol
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....really lol? Yea good comment their buddy.
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Yes, you're trolling, but I can't resist myself.
I had a G2. Traded it in for a Vibrant.
Enjoy your dust-collecting screen, crappy hinge, inability to flash roms, INCREDIBLY bad camera, and random hard resets.
Also, the G2 keyboard is a sad shadow of the Cliq keyboard.
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Yup that's why its been awarded one of the best keyboard awards by almost every review site on the net...haha I don't have a single one of those issues lmao, so why don't you stop reading your fairytale book and actually show something your phone actually has over mine haha.
P.s....notice the title of the thread is why the vibrant lags so much...lmao don't have that on my g2
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lol the g2 cant even do tv out
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Who gives to rats about whether a phone can do tv out?!? Obviously only you lol. And if I did...I would just use the usb that came with my g2 to play video on my hd tv... so yea it actually can
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I live in South FLA Ft Lauderdale area. I will be getting a new Epic from sprint tomorrow so there will be no cosmetic damage. I am looking for an even exchange for the HTC EVO. I am still a fan of the epic but realized I like the bigger screen of the EVO and dont need the keyboard. If interested please let me know. Thanks.
I bet you can find that trade, maybe post on craigslist and the epic forum too
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Gl with dat......hehe
Swyped from a galaxy far far away......
Lol i REALLY think you should reconsider. I have both an epic and and evo and even with cyonogen mod the evo doesnt compare. Youll gain .3 inches and lose amoled for that fugly lcd riddled with backlight bleed and that infamous patch. Youll be downgrading hardware a whole generation... sorry man im sure you dont care but i dont want you do something you WILL regret. Run a search other people here have done it and admit they shot themselves in the foot.
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Lol i REALLY think you should reconsider. I have both an epic and and evo and even with cyonogen mod the evo doesnt compare. Youll gain .3 inches and lose amoled for that fugly lcd riddled with backlight bleed and that infamous patch. Youll be downgrading hardware a whole generation... sorry man im sure you dont care but i dont want you do something you WILL regret. Run a search other people here have done it and admit they shot themselves in the foot.
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there are plenty that have and loved the change to evo.. and consider it an upgrade in usability.
my sis has an epic. her battery died, so she had to borrow my evo to take a few pics of her daughter...
15 mins after using my phone...
she says as she hands my phone back, "wow, your phone is so easy to use."
things just work better and together...
ex: I can talk on my phone and take a picture at the same time.
there are much more choices in the development community...much bigger than epic.
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Lol i REALLY think you should reconsider. I have both an epic and and evo and even with cyonogen mod the evo doesnt compare. Youll gain .3 inches and lose amoled for that fugly lcd riddled with backlight bleed and that infamous patch. Youll be downgrading hardware a whole generation... sorry man im sure you dont care but i dont want you do something you WILL regret. Run a search other people here have done it and admit they shot themselves in the foot.
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That's YOUR opinion. I traded my evo for an epic and switched back to the evo. I think the Evo is a better device or at least, more suitable for my needs. The Epic has too many software issues.
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i dont think anybody would ever do that trade lol
I have a motorola QA4 I will trade ya
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That's YOUR opinion. I traded my evo for an epic and switched back to the evo. I think the Evo is a better device or at least, more suitable for my needs. The Epic has too many software issues.
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See thats also YOUR opinion. Also your epic might of been ****e cuz as far as im concerned that evo i have is collecting dust and there isnt anything i need it for. Maybe to show people at work who dont know any better how outdated it is. People still think the evo is the be all end all of phones. Here let me show you this shiny epic in my pocket lol
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Craigslist is your best friend!
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See thats also YOUR opinion. Also your epic might of been ****e cuz as far as im concerned that evo i have is collecting dust and there isnt anything i need it for. Maybe to show people at work who dont know any better how outdated it is. People still think the evo is the be all end all of phones. Here let me show you this shiny epic in my pocket lol
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That's a lot of anger there... Didn't Epic have radio issues?
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That's a lot of anger there... Didn't Epic have radio issues?
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GPS issues, very little development, 4G constantly disconnects, amongst others.
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I believe they're both great phones, it really just boils down to what you want out of your phone.
Good luck with your search!
Yea epic just had their upgrade pulled because of about of issues....
My wifes epic can't take pictures in low light, freezes phone in certain camera modes, no good asop roms, no gingerbread...
Sorry evo has way way more development to make it exactly how you want it.
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Yea epic just had their upgrade pulled because of about of issues....
My wifes epic can't take pictures in low light, freezes phone in certain camera modes, no good asop roms, no gingerbread...
Sorry evo has way way more development to make it exactly how you want it.
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The Epic does have an "awesome" slide out keyboard though, but it skips keys when you're typing.
hardware wise... epic has the specs to kick ass... and that is where it stops!
EVO.. everything else is better.. and works together...
oem support
sprint support
dev support (hands down kills epic 20 times over)
example of everything works together...
Epic..can you take pics and talk on phone at the same time? does that not sound something it should do?
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The Epic does have an "awesome" slide out keyboard though, but it skips keys when you're typing.
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Yes it does. Bothers the crap out of me.
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Ill trade u my white evo......I need a change.......
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I believe they're both great phones, it really just boils down to what you want out of your phone.
Good luck with your search!
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Yeah, like GPS, the choice to use my camera with less than 15% battery left, and other basic functions. I wanted 'em. So I traded my Epic for an Evo. LOL.
Ive hated motorola since I had the abomination that was the rokr. theyre phones have always screwed me over sooner or later on the software side, but this phone is calling to me.. its nice.. idk I think there's something wrong with me. I wouldnt get it over the gs2... but id definitely consider it. What do you guys think?
Hey I dont like motorola also!! But the photon looks like it kicks ass. i would consider it but my upgrades not till may and they're gonna have a better phone by then...
Sywped from mah Supasonic!
I'm getting it I never want another Samsung phone unless the dev community is past amazing
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I would not get it. The community is so anti development!!!!
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I would not get it. The community is so anti development!!!!
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Moto dont have good dev community?
I was thinking that droids get alot of roms and cyanogens.Its probably just for their latest locked down phones.Have Atrix been rooted yet?
i dont like moto eather but Atrix was nice and screen on it almost as nice as my s amoled
To me, it just seems pretty basic. Not really feature packed.
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To me, it just seems pretty basic. Not really feature packed.
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That statement right there means you need to go into a store and play with one. It has a ton of features built in.
@OP: I share your exact same sentiment. I'm waiting for the within, and I hate motorola, but this phone is definitely enticing me. I feel like I'm under some sort of spell lol. The webtop alone is enough for me to consider it. It would be so nice to just throw it on the dock when I get home and fire up netflix or hulu. And have all my texts come through my tv. Ugh...its so tempting.
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That statement right there means you need to go into a store and play with one. It has a ton of features built in.
@OP: I share your exact same sentiment. I'm waiting for the within, and I hate motorola, but this phone is definitely enticing me. I feel like I'm under some sort of spell lol. The webtop alone is enough for me to consider it. It would be so nice to just throw it on the dock when I get home and fire up netflix or hulu. And have all my texts come through my tv. Ugh...its so tempting.
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EXACTLY!!! The features on the photon are killer! WORLD PHONE?? GSM? The more I think about it lol
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Feels laggy, specially for being a dual core processor device. Screen is pretty good, nothing to write home about though sadly. Just using it for half hour made me appreciate my nexus way more, I wouldn't grtbit unless iI knew dev community was huge and custom roms were outout
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The only interesting thing for me is has a sim slot, but nothing else to brag about.
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There isn't that's the thing lol other than the docking features and a few other things there's really nothing amazing about it.. but it still appeals to be for some huge reason. When the time comes to upgrade I'm gonna play with the photon first, then the within.
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Will continue to wait it out for the GS2
Honestly were at the point there's nothing huge about any phone that comes out
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Feels laggy, specially for being a dual core processor device. Screen is pretty good, nothing to write home about though sadly. Just using it for half hour made me appreciate my nexus way more, I wouldn't grtbit unless iI knew dev community was huge and custom roms were outout
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They say it is Moto Blur that causes the Motorola devices to be laggy. Which is 100% true. Look at the Atrix
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They say it is Moto Blur that causes the Motorola devices to be laggy. Which is 100% true. Look at the Atrix
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Yea it's the ui install another launcher and you'll see
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MOTO has always had horrible UI's. That was true even for their basic flip phones. I had the MOTO KRKZR years ago with Sprint... and the lag was awful.
Hey all. I've been looking to buy a new phone for a few weeks now, and have been leaning towards the Evo Shift. But my choice was the Epic months ago. So my question is; which would all of you prefer? Epic of Shift?
I've done much research, but I'd like to hear insight from some actual Epic users. I know the Epic offers Samsung's Super AMOLED display, and the shift doesn't. The Epic also has a bigger screen. But I believe the Shift has a faster processor? I've also heard that the sliding mechanism on the Epic can become loose fairly quickly with heavy use? Is this even true? I also know how the Epic doesn't have a fully functional Gingerbread build build yet. The Shift does, but there's only temp root at this time. I really do like Sense, but I've never tried Samsung's TouchWiz UI. Also, I know this is also a bigger phone, but is like, a brick? I definitely wouldn't want a phone to be pulling my pants down when it's in my pocket haha.
I'd really like to outweigh all the pros and cons before I go through with any purchase. Thanks!
Omg the epic wins on ALL fronts. CPU is faster, gpu is faster, keyboard is better, bigger screen, amoled over lcd (spliech!), its thinner, the cameras better, the speaker phone is louder and not tinny. The shift has absolutely nothing on the epic.
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My roommates boyfriend has one sonics had plenty of time to play with one. Not blowing smoke just in case. Also I forgot to mention, the Evo shift doesn't have gorilla glass
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Epic has superior hardware in every way, but shift has aosp, sense 3.0, stable miui and stable cm7, whereas we don't. So Shift has more ROMs and dev support + they have stock gb too.
Overall = EPIC ; Developement = Shift ....... personally , I think EPIC is WAY Better
Epic is end of life now so why even get it?
Be cool and get evo 3d or photon. If you don't have the top of the line flagship then you aren't crap and should be asshamed of yourself and move to a remote island with no cell service.
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moto_google said:
Epic is end of life now so why even get it?
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The shift is too
moto_google said:
Epic is end of life now so why even get it?
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Because I can't really deal with an all touch screen phone, so I want a full keyboard. That's why my choices are the Epic or Evo Shift.
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The shift is too
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When people see my end of life epic I get laughed at and told no self respecting cellphone user would be caught dead with an end of life flagship phone. They say you ain't crap unless you have evo 3d or photon.
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When people see my end of life epic I get laughed at and told no self respecting cellphone user would be caught dead with an end of life flagship phone. They say you ain't crap unless you have evo 3d or photon.
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I could care less what people would say about me because of what phone I have. A phone is a phone, and everyone has different opinions. I don't need a brand new, top of the line phone to make me happy. I just want somethin that works, and gets the job done with what I need it for
I have an Epic... and love it! It's fast as hell (running RandomROM EG22 "HAWK"), and I use it for work so it takes plenty of abuse. My wife has a shift stuck on 2.3.3, and it's a dog. Even she complains about how slow it is, but hopefully (someday) permanent root will be found and I can flash a different ROM to speed it up.
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I have an Epic... and love it! It's fast as hell (running RandomROM EG22 "HAWK"), and I use it for work so it takes plenty of abuse. My wife has a shift stuck on 2.3.3, and it's a dog. Even she complains about how slow it is, but hopefully (someday) permanent root will be found and I can flash a different ROM to speed it up.
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Yeah was gonna add no root for shift right now.
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Yeah was gonna add no root for shift right now.
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What do you mean? They have custom roms.
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What do you mean? They have custom roms.
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Yeah they do. They have the. Newest Miui and CM7. You should check out qbking's videos. He has both phones in his growing arsenal and has videos on both. I had to stop the Shift Miui 1.8.19 (maybe wrong #) video before he started showing the features...I was getting pissed! Lol EDIT...Shift has Miui 1.9.2...my mistake!
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I could care less what people would say about me because of what phone I have. A phone is a phone, and everyone has different opinions. I don't need a brand new, top of the line phone to make me happy. I just want somethin that works, and gets the job done with what I need it for
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If a phone is a phone then you should be happy not getting the promotion and the raise and the not new trophy wife.
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What do you mean? They have custom roms.
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I mean a new shift with
2.3 update, only temp root right now
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Get the Epic hands down over shift yea they have more devs but we got Great devs are self the epic got better everything cpu gpu humming bird processor super amoled etc. etc. the evo camp got more devs there like the army but the Epic like the marines!! Support the troops USA!!
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I have an epic, and my brother has the shift.
My epic surpasses it in everyway. Better screen, battery life, and keyboard.
Plus, you might end up with a non rootable shift because most of them in stock are aleady on 2.3.
Epic hands down
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Avelnan said:
Phones are going to come to life someday. Take note: LG Optimus line. ASUS Transformer. And now the Nexus Prime.
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My Epic runs circles around the Shift regardless of what rom it's running
Forget dev support, no matter how far you push it a Shift will never be an Epic, so I'd say the Epic.
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My Epic runs circles around the Shift regardless of what rom it's running
Forget dev support, no matter how far you push it a Shift will never be an Epic, so I'd say the Epic.
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That's what I have been told as well.
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