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Sprint's 4g connection not stable...

Im in the northern chicago area and I'm able to connect to 4g but the connection is slow and unstable...(even with 4 bars). Ive extended the idle time using ##data# but still I have the same issues??? Anybody with a solid connection care to share their ##data# settings? Im thinking the issue might in the settings......
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I'm in Seattle and see similar 4G behavior. Usually 2 bars or so and not great performance (marginally better than 3G). I'd be interested to see if this can be improved by tweaking the settings also.

the 4G antenna in the EVO is half the size of the USB one, I don't even get signal at my house on my EVO, yet I get 1.5MBs on my USB stick. Size matters.

Idk about 4G but i just moved into a new house and i have TERRRIBLE reception no matter where i am. If im not outside, it sucks. Its funny though, as soon as i step out the door, 5-6 bars. Im keeping the phone in hopes that as soon as they get 4G around here (Elmont, NY... Long Island), things will change. =\

sprints 4g is in a horrible part of the spectrum. it's frequency is too high to pass through anything

This thread does not belong here. Take this drivel to the appropriate subforum.

unless you are a running a stock rom with the latest updates, i don't think you can make any of these complaints that you all are unless 4g isn't fully up and running in your city. My girlfriend just got the white evo and we installed the latest updates and she gets a very good 4g signal, i have the black evo running fresh 0.5.3 and i get a pretty good signal myself. Not to mention we live in mpls and 4g isn't even officially here yet. A lot of these problems people are having are user errors, flashing things with no knowledge of what they are doing. I would say go back to stock do to ota update with the new radio and wimax enhancements then tell me what type of 4g coverage you are getting. otherwise you are just trusting the chef that everything is set up right which i would take with a grain of salt because non of them seem to understand exactly how the wimax radio works as of yet. Proof of this is all the problems people are having after trying numerous roms

BB15 said:
I'm in Seattle and see similar 4G behavior. Usually 2 bars or so and not great performance (marginally better than 3G). I'd be interested to see if this can be improved by tweaking the settings also.
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That's not very encouraging, I am very disappointed by Sprint's 3g speeds. I have yet to see over 1mbs, and over the 4th of July weekended saw .2-.7 mbs. Yes, .2 as in 192kbs. This was in Miami.

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This thread does not belong here. Take this drivel to the appropriate subforum.
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I started this thread with the intentions of looking into the settings of the wimax ##data# menu....not too rant about the service. I believe with the good signal I'm getting and the fact that I do connect shows that there's an issue with either the roms were flashing or the setting mentioned above. Anybody care to post their settings?
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Changing the wimax idle sleep time from 10 secs to 300 secs could help. My 4G stays on pretty much constantly now instead of switching back and forth between 4G and 3G. You would need your MSL to edit the settings though.

I have similar issues in the chicago land area as well. Very frustrating. I am using a stock rooted rom, but I am using an older OTA update. When I'm outside I always have a strong 4G signal. However, as soon as I go in doors I either loose the signal or have a very weak one. Before you say anything about updating, my GF's EVO is completely stock with the newest OTA update and her 4G behaves very similarly. I actually pick up a better signal at times. It just sucks because if the signal was just a LITTLE bit stronger I would be really happy.

Thats just due to the spectrum used for wimax is at such a high frequency that it does not penetrate walls very well. I'm not sure how sprint will try to remedy this problem, I'm not sure but I get strong signals at my work office and thats inside a building. At home I can get 4G if I am outside once inside I cant seem to get it at all.

What's "##data#" ? I would search it but haven't quite figured it out yet on the app. Google didn't help either (surprisingly).
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jrpointer said:
Im in the northern chicago area and I'm able to connect to 4g but the connection is slow and unstable...(even with 4 bars). Ive extended the idle time using ##data# but still I have the same issues??? Anybody with a solid connection care to share their ##data# settings? Im thinking the issue might in the settings......
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jr - I am in Gold Coast and recently noticed the 4G signal was junk. It used ot be great inside my 13th floor apartment. I went to the sprint store and they said one of the towers was being serviced (they called a tech. and he said this while I was there). They said end of this week it would be fixed. I was going to give them another week or so and see what the deal is then.

IMO it kind of defeats the purpose of having 4G then. 90% of the time that I want to surf the internet or use 4G I'm indoors, and I would imagine that goes for pretty much everybody. I know this isn't a problem for everybody so it seems, but I think for a lot of people it is.

interesting you say 4 bars of 4g. when i look at my phone i can get up to 6 vertical bars for 3g's signal strength, but with 4g on, and outside i can get 3 "bars" more like "upper wifi arcs" above the 4g signal. and inside my 4g doesn't even register anything, it just shows 4g with no arcs...
however my technique is to put the phone right next to the window and run my micro usb cable from there to my computer. and i then get great data connection...
still experimenting, (had the phone for less than a week) but i think it might work better to go to menu/settings/wirless&networks/ and uncheck mobile network so the phone doesn't use the 3g for data connection when 4g isn't there...
thus if the 4g signal is low, it doesn't drop it to grab the higher signal 3g...
lastly. i'm heading to the store to try to pick up a 2 buck plastic soap dish with a suction cup for the "high tech holding station" on my window. that and a 10 foot micro usb cable i think that will help even more...
best of luck.

I have figured out where in my neighborhood I can get a 4G signal (and I too keep my phone near the window when I want to use it at home). However since the OTA, I noticed that if my 4G signal drops it won't come back unless I toggle the 4G radio. It will just sit in "scanning" and use 3G.
Anyone else noticing this problem?
I would assume that one of the settings/timers need to be tweaked, but I have no idea what my those values were before the OTA.

oreoOozZz said:
Idk about 4G but i just moved into a new house and i have TERRRIBLE reception no matter where i am. If im not outside, it sucks. Its funny though, as soon as i step out the door, 5-6 bars. Im keeping the phone in hopes that as soon as they get 4G around here (Elmont, NY... Long Island), things will change. =\
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4G has nothing to do with 3G. Clearwire maintains the 4G network and Ericsson maintains the 3G/1X network do if your 3G is bad now, it won't be any different when 4G launches unless Ericsson improves the situation.

If I'd got this device predominantly for 4G...Id've returned it in day one...(IN Chicago also). In fact wouldn't have bought it going in knowing what I knew about the spottiness of tapping into 4G frequency wirelessly.

that makes absolutely no sense.
per your words, 4G has nothing to do with 3G as in Clearwire has nothing to do with Ericsson so what would it matter if Ericsson decided to step its game up if Clearwire is the 4G company?
4G is on a whole different frequency not to mention a whole different tower technology and tower location possibly so there's definetly a good chance that I can maintain a great 4G signal once it arrives in my area compared to the terrible 3G coverage I get.
well see what happens... my luck they will never put 4G by me lol.

3G-capable Airave femtocell from Airvana starts shipping

http://mobile.engadget.com/2010/08/19/sprints-3g-capable-airave-from-airvana-starts-shipping/
It probably won't be really available for a while (more than 30 days - although apparently a few people have been able to get their hands on one already), but it looks like this thing is coming out sooner, rather than later.

I have one. Got it about a week ago. I havent even taken it out of the box. Guess if it supports 3G, I should.
One thing I do like is you dont need a switch to use it anymore. It has a pass-through ethernet configuration.

Im unboxing it now.. this thing is freakin huge.. WAAAAY bigger than the original AirRave I had.

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Im unboxing it now.. this thing is freakin huge.. WAAAAY bigger than the original AirRave I had.
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think you'll be able to post some speed-test results? How'd you get yours? Thought they weren't really out yet.

I still don't understand why having 3G is important at all for an Airave. The airave works using a broadband connection, so if you have broadband, the chances of you having wifi are pretty high also, and if you have wifi, who cares about 3G? Does my logic hold ground?

Sure.. Ill run speedtests.
I didnt do anything special to get it. I used to be with Sprint and I left and went to TMobile. Well, I returned my original AirRave because they asked for it back. When I came back to Sprint, I asked them to return the AirRave to me so I could hook it back up and they said they would send me a new one.
I noticed it looked different but didnt really think anything about it.

Here's a couple of things that arent mentioned in the article above.
This thing is HUGE.. I already said that but I wanted to say it again.
Its set up so you plug the cable modem directly into it and then there are extra jacks for hooking up a PC or a router.
Mine is going through the sync process now. It doesnt seem to be any faster than the old AirRaves but I may end up having to DMZ it in my router like I did the last one.

tgruendler said:
I still don't understand why having 3G is important at all for an Airave. The airave works using a broadband connection, so if you have broadband, the chances of you having wifi are pretty high also, and if you have wifi, who cares about 3G? Does my logic hold ground?
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yes - as far is the EVO goes. But there are a ton of Sprint devices that can use 3g data but don't get wifi.

I've had mine for almost 2 weeks now, its really great, I get five bars at home and the 3g seems capped at about 2mbps. It us pretty big, but I don't mind, although I think that the samsung airrave looks a little cooler.us kind of weird when using 3g because your not using sprints network so its almost like wifi, just slower. My only complaint is that the thing takes 20 minutes to start up and it has a really weak built in gps signal, you have to use the antenna to make it work. I got mine for free from sprint because I get 0-1 bars and was "threatening to cancel" (lies to get a free airrave with no monthly fees)
I'd say its pretty awesome

You should have posted this thread in the accessories section noob
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So what do those of us with the Samsung Airaves have to do in order to get one of these new 3G capable ones?

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So what do those of us with the Samsung Airaves have to do in order to get one of these new 3G capable ones?
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Sell it on ebay them buy the new one with the money you get

I can't see that this is anything of a big deal unless your phone doesn't have Wifi capabilities

I just sent Sprint an email about getting my old Airave upgraded to the new one. Hopefully they hook me up since I've been a customer for 7 years and have no service in the middle of Atlanta.

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I still don't understand why having 3G is important at all for an Airave. The airave works using a broadband connection, so if you have broadband, the chances of you having wifi are pretty high also, and if you have wifi, who cares about 3G? Does my logic hold ground?
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Every person in my family has an evo except my mom who has a palm pixi. Which had no wifi.
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Got one on the way with a return kit for my old airave. I called customer care and asked if they were upgrading old airaves. After a few minutes on hold i was given the details regarding the new airave and the return kit. One bummer was that the rep told me that the 3g is not evdo, but first gen 3g.
Other than that I am expecting delivery next Thursday.
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is the signal given off of the new airave any better/go any further???

In my tests so far with the airave 2.0 they signal seems to be a little stronger than before...

Does it actually hand off calls to the network like its supposed to?
My Airave does not hand off calls even though when I go outside the condo, I get a full 5 bars of Sprint signal. It has yet to hand off a call though I have been impressed by the distance I can go before it drops...

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Does it actually hand off calls to the network like its supposed to?
My Airave does not hand off calls even though when I go outside the condo, I get a full 5 bars of Sprint signal. It has yet to hand off a call though I have been impressed by the distance I can go before it drops...
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What do you mean hand off calls to the network? Its not a cell repeater, I have one of those to, that will hand off calls to the network, but the airrave is a femtocell, which takes your broadband internet connection a sprint tower, it never even uses sprints towers. If you need a cell repeater I'm selling mine

Anyone getting very poor reception?

I have had my G2 purchased off contract for 3 days now and other than the hinge issue and the 4g internal issue I find that my device just does not want to hold a signal other than E or G. What little time it spends on H is a small percentage of operation time. In the exact same location and time my Vibrant will hold 3 G at two bars and My Nexus One also at 1 or 2 bars the G2 stays on E at 3 or 4 bars or less and when I attempt to dl something it either hangs and goes to G or stays on E and I get the "trouble connecting with server try again and downland unsuccessful. This is the worst reception I have ever had on a phone in this same exact location. I think the G2 is a wonderful phone having the potential to be a super phone. I am hoping that this is just a defect with this unit and I have arranged to have a replacement. Anyone else having this issue?

may be a defect.. I get the same amount of 3G bars that I got on my Blackberry 9700 which is usually around full the areas I frequent.

To the OP I get the same exact problem. Unable to connect to Market even on Edge.
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I spoke with a TMO rep who stated it's a known issue with their network, only effecting 10% of users. I don't believe them.
Data Issue Thread
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=800322

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I spoke with a TMO rep who stated it's a known issue with their network, only effecting 10% of users. I don't believe them.
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I got off of the phone with a Rep from T Mobile and they claimed they had to change my web plan to suit the G2. They claimed different connections.They did give it to me at the same price as before but they also claimed it would completely change what has been happening to the device and my other phones(Vibrant and Nexus One) would see an improvement as well. So far after about 5 hours no change whatsoever except for slightly poorer reception. I am beginning to wonder if this G2 is star crossed and was not ready for prime time. I am starting to doubt anything TMobile says at this point.

i get poor reception unless im completely out in the open. i get no reception at all in house vs my iphone 2g, which got solid reception.

I get little to no reception in my basement, whereas with my BB 8900 the reception was poorer but still workable. At least the data works over Wifi.

getting the same problem with both of the G2`s i purchased data service drops and then comes back but thats been happening for about a month even on my touch pro 2

Happened to me also
My first G2 would randomly go from full bars to absolutely no service at all and I would have to turn it off and on to get service again. Since my vibrant wasn't having and problems like that I went and exchanged it for another G2. I haven't dropped signal but I frequently go from full bars 3g to edge or g and back and my data connection seems to hang every once and a while

I have great reception. Just a good as any other device I have had.

I got a replacement G2 yesterday afternoon and it is worse than the first one. The reception or I should say lack of reception is ludicrous. This is after T Mobile supposedly put me on a different connection type (whatever that is ) they could not explain it but did not increase my bill. The radio reception is much worse. The hinges are much looser than the first one and overall I am not a happy camper with this device. I go from 3 bars of H immediately to G than to 2 bars E and then no signal. It just fluctuates. Connecting to market is about a ten or 20 minute affair if it actually finally does connect. Downloading is sporadic at best. Phone has great potential IMO but it is flawed as released.

I get full bars of (H) a majority of the places I am. I'm out in jersey.
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I'm having the opposite issue as most; my cell connection is solid, but as soon as I hold the phone in landscape mode (or press my palm along the 'top' in portrait mode) I lose wifi connectivity instantly. Wifi Analyzer shows between a 20 and 30 dBa drop with either a G or N AP... apparently enough to go from four bars to zero, when I'm standing ten feet from my AP, and even more if I'm in the next room. I've tried the same thing with my G1, and I get at most a 5 dBa drop no matter which way I hold it.
Anyone else having this issue? TMo said that I was the first to call in with it, and to try returning/exchanging the phone under the 'buyer's remorse' period.
...I'll have to find another store though; the PFY manager at my local couldn't seem to understand why I would want to use wifi when I get solid HSPA+ signal, and insisted on redirecting me to the TMo Support phone number. He also seemed to be under the impression that wifi was slower than HSPA. Which might be true, if I didn't pay for a 28mbit connection at home. Or hadn't already hit the TMo 10GB/mo throttle cap.. which drops the data connection speed to 50kbps maximum. With no alternate 'truly unlimited' plan or way to buy even another 10GB.

I have had nothing but "H" yes i am in Boston, yes, yes.
Going to Maine this weekend, will let you know what it does.
H for Hysterically Hyperspeed

Add me to the list because I'm experiencing the same problems where I will be 3 or 4 bars into H and it'll drop down to to G and then back up to E, just sitting there on the desk. I'm on my 3rd G2 and they've all been like this. I was starting to think it's the network then I remembered my N900 was 100% solid 3-3.5G in my house although it did fluctuate quite a bit in between the two.

Fresno, CA G2 very poor data connections though hspa+
Very bad speeds in Fresno, CA that is HSPA+. Usually less than 1Mb down. Often see less than 500k. At a TMobile store with "a cell tower across the street pointing right at us" my G2 and the stores G2 demo phone only got a 3mb down.
I also see a weird pattern of less than 300k down with above 1.2M up often. There is a YouTube video showed some similar Speedtest.net hi/lo combo results called:
T-mobile G1 vs G2 "the face off"

same issue
i am having the same issue and i am bout 20 miles north of charlotte nc there has to be a problem with the antenna or something but who knows.

Atlant, Signal much better with G2 than with Vibrant. Thats about all I can say about it.

Mines is great if im not @ home. Dl are fast and full 4 bars. But we moved to another house which the signal sucks bad. I normaly get 1bar and edge but hell the g1 did the samething. So I dont see a probelm with the phone just tmobile network
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Add me to the list because I'm experiencing the same problems where I will be 3 or 4 bars into H and it'll drop down to to G and then back up to E, just sitting there on the desk. I'm on my 3rd G2 and they've all been like this. I was starting to think it's the network then I remembered my N900 was 100% solid 3-3.5G in my house although it did fluctuate quite a bit in between the two.
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Same here. About to take this bad boy back

[Q] Poor signal strength

Has anyone else notice poor signal strength on their epic? I've had mine for a couple of weeks, and I get network errors on occasion in my house when browsing the web or the market. I was in a Sears store yesterday, trying to look up some product reviews, and the browser was very slow, or wouldn't load a page at all. Outside of the store in my truck, everything worked fine again. I don't remember my TP2 having signal issues so often.
I'm going to compare it to my friends Evo when he comes over this weekend. If it's any better, I'm going to exchange my phone for an Evo. Anyone here used both and noticed a difference in signal?

Happens to my buddies evo as well
But being stores thats normal im my experience with sprint but verizon comes in strong though. All that concrete and metal stifling signal
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Strangely enough I work at sears. I am lucky to get any signal at all in that bomb shelter of a store. I had the same problem with my palm pre and my buddy gets no signal on his hero.
Losing signal in your house is not good though. I'd try toggling airplane mode for 10 seconds to see If that helps.
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Thanks for the replies. Maybe it was just the construction of the store, it is two stories as well. I bet it cuts down on the employees slacking off on the job. I used to frequently use my TP2 in stores to check prices and reviews, so hopefully that was a one time thing.
It does seem to be working better at home today, so maybe there was a problem with the tower.

Data on Xoom

Does anyone have issues with verizon data on the Xoom. When i'm on wifi, everything is ok, but when using verizon 3G, i get very flaky reception everywhere. I could be on full 3G signal, then all of a sudden, i go to no signal at all. I have to wait out 1-3 minutes sometimes for the 3G signal to come back. It's been very frustrating. I am in Dallas, TX where reception is pretty good. I want to keep the Xoom so bad, but if I cant use my 3G service then its of no use.
Is this normal with verizon service or the unit might be faulty??

I havent experienced any problems with signal on my Xoom. It actually gets a better signal in places that my Droid Incredible has none or a very weak signal. If you have any issues within the first 14-30 days depending on where you purchased, I would definitely exchange for a new device. No use getting stuck with something thats defective.

nullvoidnothing

In Oklahoma I used wifi tethering to give a MacBook a connection over Verizon 3g. He played youtube videos without any problem.

I drove from NYC to Philadelphia using google navigation and I didn't loose internet connection once. I was actually surprised how fast web pages pull up on 3g, much faster then on my fascinate.