Things that I want to know before I change to CM7 - Wildfire General

Hi guys, I'm a stock rom user and I've getting bored of my current screen. It looks like stock rom has less themes. And after I've go thru the theme's topic in this forum, CM7 has really attracted me with it's beautiful theme. I would like to change to CM7 and I have few question to ask before I'd really change it =)
- I heard that CM has a bug of, showing all the contacts in numbers instead of name. Is this true? Or has it fixed? Can someone list me the bugs of CM?
- Is it available to use the market app that I'm using now? If i used Mybackup to backup my phone, after I have turn it into CM, can I download back the Mybackup and then restore my things?
- What are the other features can be found on CM7? Can it overclock too?
Please provide me other relavent infos that I need to know before I turning my wildfire into CM7.
Thanks a thousand

OK to answer your question about bugs. I'm on the RC1 and haven't found any! Everything works perfectly! If you find anything let them know and it might be fixed in a nightly.
Yes you can download mybackup and then restore all your apps! I use titanium backup as it has more features but mybackup works just as well.
Other features: Loads!!! Basically everything is configurable!
When you asked if it can overclock, all ROMS can be overclocked, however you must first install an overclock kernal like HCDR.Jacob 4.1 which I use.
Hope I've been of help, if you've now got any more questions stick them below!
Things to know about before changing is that you CAN'T get any HTC apps on it, and that's really it!

Also CM doesn't have an FM radio. Don't know if Jacob will add it in the future.

first of all, thanks to djdevine2 and imlgl for the reply. much appreciated =).
@djdevine2
what do you mean by "Things to know about before changing is that you CAN'T get any HTC apps on it, and that's really it!"? only HTC apps but on the apps on the market right? what is an example of HTC apps? Htc Sense?
titanium backups can backup contacts also? i dont mind about apps, the most important thing for me is my contacts. i couldnt afford to lose any of it.
what do you mean by RC1?
@imlgl
i see no radio huh. but what does that radio worked as? I think it's not referring to the FM AM broadcast radio right?
and yeah if anyone has the full thread of installing CM7 and all the relevent stuffs, please provide me also?
I can't wait to try it out already X).
thank you very much!

halaue said:
first of all, thanks to djdevine2 and imlgl for the reply. much appreciated =).
@djdevine2
what do you mean by "Things to know about before changing is that you CAN'T get any HTC apps on it, and that's really it!"? only HTC apps but on the apps on the market right? what is an example of HTC apps? Htc Sense?
titanium backups can backup contacts also? i dont mind about apps, the most important thing for me is my contacts. i couldnt afford to lose any of it.
what do you mean by RC1?
@imlgl
i see no radio huh. but what does that radio worked as? I think it's not referring to the FM AM broadcast radio right?
and yeah if anyone has the full thread of installing CM7 and all the relevent stuffs, please provide me also?
I can't wait to try it out already X).
thank you very much!
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Yeah, you can't install HTC apps like the HTC Camera or the HTC FM radio or the sense launcher. No titanium backup doesn't do contacts but when I created contacts I created them on google so I just log in and they're downloaded straight away.
RC1 is the best version of CM7 at the moment in terms of things working.
Answering your question to @IMLGL by radio they mean the FM radio, it will NOT work in CM7 but you can download apps that let you stream it so it's not much of a problem!
Are you rooted? I can guide you to it if you need it or I can go straight to CM7!
I'm sure you'll like CM7!

CM7 is pretty good.
Sent from my HTC Wildfire using XDA App

Ummm Titanium Backup does do contacts. And SMS, and Calendar, etc, but it probably wont work as its moving from HTC to AOSP ROM.
Cyanogenmod.com has a wiki that details the install process, and also their own forum.
I have found a few bugs, mostly minor though and safely ignored. One that comes to mind is that when trackball centre is assigned to screen-on, it sometimes does nothing. CM7 is freakin' awesome, and so fast. Gameboid runs full speed when holding down screen unlike other rom's. And gingerbread is such an improvement! I especially love the customization in the Notifications button widget... best access to music controls when in another app!
Edit: just do a nandroid backup before flashing a new ROM. If the new one doesn't work out, restore nandroid and no harm done
Sent from my HTC Wildfire using Tapatalk

My nandroid bootlooped once, that was fun =D
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Could you elaborate on that? I.e. how you overcame it, and what you did wrong? It's not very nice trying to scare people for no reason. I have never had a nandroid restore cause a bootloop.

Hahaha i'm not trying to scare them, it just happened. I don't know why :S, after formatting my sd card, repartitioning it and putting everything back, it was all fine. it happened when i tried to upgrade wildpuzzle, LOL.

Well yes, you should always format the swap partition (if you have one) and also do a full wipe/factory reset to erase the .android_secure folder before restoring from a nandroid backup (all under Clockworkmod). Recovery is known to be quite buggy on the Wildfire, though it's mainly with the ADB server.

@djdevine2
hey there. couldnt install htc camera, but there are others camera apps on market right?
maybe you can list me a list of apps that i should get after i change to CM7 TONIGHT<< .
my phone is rooted! android 2.2 rooted. so how do i start now?
@jonusc
hey there. =). so titanium backup is out, and then does nandroid backup contacts too? i've used mybackup and it worked quite well. so if no other suitable backup apps i guess i will just stick to it?
@kevin2516
huh huh that will encounter errors too? how often does that happen on people who did the same thing like you?

It was a rare occurrence, only happened like once or twice. But it really doesn't bother me since i'm used to flashing and restoring apps with titanium backup only takes like 20-30min. (i don't have over 100 billion apps i want) ;D

halaue said:
@djdevine2
hey there. couldnt install htc camera, but there are others camera apps on market right?
maybe you can list me a list of apps that i should get after i change to CM7 TONIGHT<< .
my phone is rooted! android 2.2 rooted. so how do i start now?
@jonusc
hey there. =). so titanium backup is out, and then does nandroid backup contacts too? i've used mybackup and it worked quite well. so if no other suitable backup apps i guess i will just stick to it?
@kevin2516
huh huh that will encounter errors too? how often does that happen on people who did the same thing like you?
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I can't tell you what apps you'll like or find useful! But I like overclock widget for overclocking and LCD density is quite cool!

I have bought MyBackup Pro, I may try it. I had a problem with TB, I backed up everything in CM7 and reinstalled fresh, but it does not restore Widgets for ADWLauncher properly
Nandroid is very different to MyBackup/TB. It takes a complete 1:1 image of your phone. Yes it does do contacts, but you cannot restore those contacts individually - you use nandroid as a complete ROM restore. Before you edit your firmware, Nandroid is used as a backup incase you want to revert. It has no use for migrating across rom's, but is the best and only way for an exact entire backup.
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actually i've found the best way to backup contacts!
just go into the phone/contacts there, press menu, export to sd card and thats done! done perfectly!
and for notes backup, i suggest you all to use OnePunchNotes. It can backup either automatically or manually, then restore it even with password. This is the best notes app that I've found so far.
for the apps i dont really care i can download it again =).
Im in CM7 now, the GUI is awesome!!!!!!! makes my phone so fresh
but just one problem, sometimes the apps will get force closed and hang, anyone knows why?
p/s: the kernal for overclock is same as stock rom? what what jacob?

Force close AND hang? They are both completely different things. Which one is it? I get no FC's, if you do try a permissions repair in ROM manager.
If you mean hanging, yes I get this too but only within first few minutes of booting up. Just press Wait and let it finish, pressing Close will make it take even longer to load. Remember that this is RC, it is still in testing stages, so there's nothing you can do except wait for a new version.
Yes, Jacob's HDCR kernel is already in CM7. It is probably best to stick with it too instead of flashing the generic one.
Under performance settings, using a 32mb heap and enabling JIT may help with hanging. Also, switching off dithering definitely helps reduce hanging. It also seems to make my emulators faster
Sent from my HTC Wildfire using Tapatalk

so means that i can directly install SetCPU into it right? I see.
And 1 more thing, the video keeps hang, do you know why? When i start play the video then after 3 secs it hanged =(

I don't know for sure cause I don't have a Wildfire myself, but in cm7 you can change the CPU speed in Settings - CyanogenMod settings - Performance - CPU settings

it force closed =(

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How to backup installed apps and scenes between ROM flashes to restore them easily?

Hello, I'm new to the Android world, but I've learned through your great forums how to make my HTC Hero shine! I installed a custom ROM (actually, I'm trying Roufianos 1.1 clean) an eng SPL, a modded revovery and the latest radio.
Every time I flash a new ROM, I have to re-download and re-install all the apps from the market, and setup again the 7 home screens with my preferred widgets and programs.
Is there a way to backup these data and restore them with ease?
I made a few searches but found nothing (maybe I tried the wrong words)
Thanks in advance!
I use titanium backup for my applications.
For the scenes I don't know, maybe there is a folder in which they are stored you could do a search on that.
thank you so much, Titanium backup is really a great app, and it saves the scenes too!!!
crespo80 said:
thank you so much, Titanium backup is really a great app, and it saves the scenes too!!!
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The other way is to try flashing without a wipe.
If this works (and I mean if) all you have to do is turn your phone on
and Voila!
Rhamsterman said:
The other way is to try flashing without a wipe.
If this works (and I mean if) all you have to do is turn your phone on
and Voila!
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Yeah, this could be a simpler solution, given the fact that now I swap betwenn ROMs based on the same 2.1 official release! But I always prefer the clean one, wipe and strike!
crespo80 said:
Hello, I'm new to the Android world, but I've learned through your great forums how to make my HTC Hero shine! I installed a custom ROM (actually, I'm trying Roufianos 1.1 clean) an eng SPL, a modded revovery and the latest radio.
Every time I flash a new ROM, I have to re-download and re-install all the apps from the market, and setup again the 7 home screens with my preferred widgets and programs.
Is there a way to backup these data and restore them with ease?
I made a few searches but found nothing (maybe I tried the wrong words)
Thanks in advance!
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I tried Titanium backup but had problems with it being a bit unreliable, and about a few things not working once I'd done the restore.
I then tried MyBackup (after flashing again) and it worked a treat.
Couple of things though:
- Doesn't back up APN settings or wifi settings (there are other ways to do that, do a search)
- A single SMS got corrupted (making me unable to open messages from that person). Deleting that message thread solved the problem.
It DOES backup apps and your HTC scenes (and various other settings). I used the 30-day time limited version which is free. I'd happily pay the $4.95 for it, though in this case I didn't need to.

[Q] Port backup from Hero to DesireHD?

Hi,
I currently own an HTC Hero, and will most likely be getting an HTC Desire HD.
Now, I have almost 150 apps on my Hero, and I really dread the hassle of re-installing and setting up everything to my liking. It has taken me almost a year to set this up the way I want it.
Would it be possible, using Titanium Backup, to make a backup of EVERYTHING possible on the Hero, and then switch the memorycard to the Desire HD and restore it there, maybe without the app settings? I am thinking that this could be a problem because of the different specs, but I do not know too much under-the-hood-stuff regarding Android.
I am hoping to not have to go through the market for that many downloads.
Any thoughts on this?
Kingkeld.
Market apps will automatically re-install when you sign in into your new phone. For the rest there is Titanium backup
I planned on doing the same, but doesn't Titanium require root?
I can't remember what it's like to not have root, the thought is scary
Try Android commander for the PC, Plug in your hero, goto application manager, select all the apps and click backup, then when you get your new phone selsct all the backed up apps and click install Hope it helps
christonabike said:
I planned on doing the same, but doesn't Titanium require root?
I can't remember what it's like to not have root, the thought is scary
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It does need root that is correct but I'm sure, as stated there are other ways to backup apps. I'm not sure about if you have your apps on ext partition though. I wager root wont take long and then comes recovery roms and then customs... mmm custom
Thank you for the replys. I can not sleep.
Now we just need a root confirmation. Yes, the thought of owning an unrooted phone is scary. Not sure what to think of it. I hope it will not last long.
All I ask is root. I can wait for the custom ROMs. There will be plenty to play with.
You just need to pick your apps from /data/data, copy them over with adb, and do a fix_permissions
See?
OR chmod by hand
;]
I used Titanium to migrate my app settings from Milestone to Nexus One, but they're on similar versions of Android and both are HDPI devices.
I can tell you that Market apps don't always reinstall automatically if you're going from one phone to another. In any case I suggest a fresh market install of your most important apps, and then restore their data by Titanium if necessary. If this causes a crash, wipe their data again. Less important apps, could just try restoring them directly. Run Titanium's Market Doctor when that's done.
I also suggest using apps like BookmarkSB, SMS Backup Restore, Call Log Backup Restore, etc to transfer those records. May work better than trying to Titanium restore data across different OS versions, and doesn't require root. Good luck! Let us know how it goes.
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[Q] switching between android roms

I did search. honestly. so im pretty sure that many people are annoyed when they see a new version of their current rom show, thus having to upgrade again loosing all their setting, apps, etc. personally, i've tried using titanium backup from mdeejay's rEVOlution 2.0 to 2.2 but it said that my apps could not be restored. so what would be the best way to painlessly switch android roms? sorry if a similar thread exists, but i'm pretty sure it doesn't..
1. this Thread should be in the "HD2 Android Q&A" Sub-Forum
2. There are many post's out there! Look into the build-threads!
(but i'm in a good mood) so...
3. ...here is my answer:
a) Data.img:
you can copy your old Data.img file into the new rom (Android-Folder) before
booting it. But use with caution, maybe the settings in the data.img are
incompatible with your new rom. (in that case - delete it and use the orig. data.img)
b) Titanium Backup:
- be sure that your Backup is the made with the same TB Version like the
one you trying to restore with.
(restoring from V 2.x.x to V 3.x.x does not work for me.)
- Use the Busy-Box offered by TB (Problems?-button) to prevent error's
- And be careful with restoring the settings! Maybe they are not compatible!
4. I suggest to rename the old rom folder to "Android_old" and
leaving it on the SD-Card for a while.
In case of problems you can rename your folders "Android">"Android_new"
and "Android_old">"Android". So you have the Option to play around with
Backup-settings and creating new one's.
Good luck!
first of all, thanks for the promt response. and secondly, i've already tried everything you've mentioned! when i used my old data.img, android booted normally. however, i had none of my apps, nor my settings. and i double checked my titanium version. it's the same as the one in the new rom. oh, and i started this thread because none of the given solutions would solve my silly little problem....
This sound's more like a problem with the revolution-build.
I don't had a problem like this with other Mdeejay-builds
(never testet revolution) and Mattc-builds
My data.img from a desire-build had worked in desire-hd-build.
But i'd switched back to the original Data.img to prevent possible failure.
Normally moving app's with TB works fine, settings are more
problematic.
But you have a very special problem.
Sorry, i cant't help .
I suggest to ask your question in revolution-thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=790374
You don't have to restore the app with tb, maybe try downloading the apps then restoring the data separately
Sent from my HTC HD2 using XDA App
You cant realy save anything but your apps. The builds can be different enough between versions that a clean install is the only way to guarantee that you have success. I keep Titanium back up apk on my card and the folder it makes as well. I dont loose my apps and only use it to back up and restore apps. You need to re-do all other settings as they can carry issues from one build to another. Some things will back up, others wont, its part of the trade off. When you change builds, most of the time its so different, its like changing phones, you just cant transfer everything.
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[Q] Best Out... ?

I bought a Desire Z about two weeks before the 1.72.405.2 OTA update came along, and I allowed it to update (Yeah I know, this was after all my first Android device).
Anyway, lately my phones been running slowly and apps force closing, so I've decided to downgrade it and root it (psneuter method), and try some different ROM's.
What I was wondering is, what would be the best way without root, to backup as much of my data as possible, apps, sms, files, and also if possible a backup that I can use in case I scew it up, so I can get it back to the way it is now.
I have a copy of:-
RUU_Vision_HTC_WWE_1.34.405.5_Radio_12.28b.60.140e_26.03.02.26_M_release_155556_signed
which I believe is the stock ROM for this device, but as far as I know if it goes wrong I'll be unable to flash this as the update won't allow me to flash an earlier version..
Would I be able to mount and then backup the whole phone using adb or any other method.
I've been reading about it for a while now, and while I have lots of bits of information, I've been unable to find a good solution.
Thanks,
...John...
j0hn0n1 said:
I bought a Desire Z about two weeks before the 1.72.405.2 OTA update came along, and I allowed it to update (Yeah I know, this was after all my first Android device).
What I was wondering is, what would be the best way without root, to backup as much of my data as possible, apps, sms, files, and also if possible a backup that I can use in case I scew it up, so I can get it back to the way it is now.
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Without root, a good app to backup your other apps is astro file manager, its available free from the market, you just have to hit menu, tools and it'll back up all the apps on your sd card, in terms of files, just make sure their all on your sd card and they'll be fine
Not sure how to back up SmS but i know their are apps out their, a point you may have forgotten is to make sure you back up your contacts as they all get wiped and I made this mistake, the easiest way to do that is to make sure your contacts sync up with your google account so after rooting, you can just sync them back,
Hope i helped!
Use google to remember what apps you've downloaded from market. Once associated, when you flash a new rom, google will automatically redownload all your associated apps. For sms, i suggest you download GoSMS and use their internal backup feature. It will save to sd and be visible to your stock sms app as well on restore.
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Ya but too many times google starts restoring apps that I uninstalled months ago. Great idea but bad implementation imo.
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Sorry I haven't replied, was in work all day yesterday.
I have Astro File Manager, but I hadn't even considered it, thanks. I have my contacts sync'd with Google, so it seems that as long as I backup my files and sms everything else should be done automatically anyway.
Go SMS seems worth getting anyway, as the bog standard Android messages app is seriously dull. I'll give it a try.
I had wondered about Google Market restoring apps, but I thought it would only reinstall apps that were installed at the last sync.
If you install an app and it screws up your phone, and do a factory reset then Google will just reinstall the app that caused all the problems in the first place.
Definitely a good idea, but needs more work.
Anyway, thanks for all the info, I'll give it try tonight, when I get back from work.
...John...
I find SMS Backup & Restore to be the best app for this purpose and I wouldn't recommend the backup feature from the market, as you said it is likely to give problems.
Without root though, the backup choices are somewhat limited for apps and such.
I've been using Super Manager by gpc. It works pretty good, plus offers a ton of other features that can be used with or without root.
I've backed up what I could, although it's typical that as soon as it's all gone I realised things that I should have wrote down (I had been using the wallet/pocket app and although I backed up all my apps, I'm guesing it won't have backed up any of the passwords, logins, bank details, etc).
Anyway, I've downgraded and successfully rooted my phone (through gfree), I have CID: 11111111 and S-Off, but I haven't installed and ROM's yet as I read somewhere that you are supposed to wipe everything between ROM's, am I wiping the Davlik cache or doing a factory reset (I mean won't the factory reset just reset my stock ROM back to it's original condition).
I'm also wondering about finding custom ROMs, on my dell streak I had installed ROM Manager and could get a list of any that were available.
I first installed ROM Manager and used it to flash recovery, but this time I've installed CWM first, so would it be safe to install ROM Manager now, will it want to flash a recovery over the one I have already.
Or is it not advisable to use ROM Manager, as I have previously heard of a few problems it may cause.
Thanks ...John...
Rom manager shouldn't give any problems, but for custom roms it's best to take a look at the development forum. If you don't like that you can still use the list in rommanager, it might be just me who prefers downloading roms to my pc first.
But before you install any of them I recommend you make a nandroid backup from recovery just to be safe.
I think the issues were that some people, not all, found problems flashing some of the gingerbread roms via Rom manager. Better to save the Rom to SD and then flash it via CWM.
Right I've done a nandroid backup, and I've saved one to another mSD card which I can keep somewhere just in case (probably a bit over cautious, but...).
I thought that by saving apps to an sd card, they would run from the sd when I restarted my phone, even the ones that I had moved previously with the application manager in settings are not seen.
Still reinstalling the ones I want isn't really that bad.
Seriously, somebody needs to sort out the Markets app backups feature, when I was setting up the phone at first, I specifically chose to not automatically sync with Google and that I would do it manually when needed. Then I went in to the market to get a file manager and the download failed, it was only when I looked at what was going on I realised it was already downloading and reinstalling 96 apps. I looked around for a 'cancel all' option and there isn't any, so I had to cancel them all one by one and then uninstall the ones that had managed to install.
A simple checklist to select the apps you want would be great, oh, and a cancel all button would be a bonus.
Anyway, things are not as much fun when they're too easy.
Thanks ...John...

[Q] CM7 - flashing for first time - have some questions

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Been rooted for quite awhile now, but stuck with stock 2.2.1 at first. Now I'm ready to flash CM7, mostly because I'm sick of certain bugs and issues I've been having that I hope this will fix, and I have many questions. I have spent weeks reading various forums, reviews, instructions, etc. I like to do my research, but need some things better clarified. Please humor someone fairly new to all of this and answer as many as you can. Thanks.
√I have CWM Recovery 3.x right now, should I upgrade to the 5.x one?
√What's this Amon_Ra Recovery I've been seeing? Is it different? better?
√Should I start with CM 7.0.3 or jump right into the new 7.1.0?
√What kind of changes can I expect to see to functions and appearance?
√Will I still have all of the basic apps? i.e. camera, gallery, swype, bluetooth, gps, weather, calender, clock, etc?
√What about the T-Mobile specific things like MyAccount?
√Does it effect the Genius Button?
√I want to know what kind of work will be involved with getting my phone back to the way I like it and what kinds of things will be replaced(I assume with better apps) or removed all together requiring me to find replacements. I've tried to review the changelog, but quite frankly, I don't understand most of what it lists.
I use LauncherPro and Folder Organizer.
√Will all of that stuff still be there on my homescreens?
√Will I need to redo all of my settings, ringtones, wallpapers, alarms, etc?
Yes, I want to be rid of sense and use CM instead.
Yes, I want to be updated to GingerBread without waiting anymore for the OTA
No, I do not want to lose my customization, apps or anything else except the bloatware.
I have a full titanium pro backup of all apps and system files plus data.
I have a nandroid backup done through clockwork mod recovery.
My e-mail, calender & contacts should be backed up through Google.
I use SMS Backup & Restore for all of my texts and Handcent is the app.
I backed up my LauncherPro and my Folder Organizer.
I have the SD card backed up in full on my PC.
√Did I miss anything?
I read that I should wipe not just the phone but my SD card too and do a partition on it for Apps2SD.
√Do I wipe, partition, then just copy everything back to it?
√Is it better to do it while in the phone connected to the pc or pop it out and do it directly from the pc?
√Should I be using ADB for any of this?
I'm sure I will come up with even more questions as I continue to research and get answers to these, but thank you so very much to anyone willing to take the time to settle a new root user's overloaded brain. There is just SO much info out there, sometimes it is hard to make sense of it all and this forum has always seemed to me to be not just the most knowledgeable, but also the most willing to break things down and clarify things without judging a poster for being confused. Noobs like me appreciate that.
Sorraia3 said:
Been rooted for quite awhile now, but stuck with stock 2.2.1 at first. Now I'm ready to flash CM7, mostly because I'm sick of certain bugs and issues I've been having that I hope this will fix, and I have many questions. I have spent weeks reading various forums, reviews, instructions, etc. I like to do my research, but need some things better clarified. Please humor someone fairly new to all of this and answer as many as you can. Thanks.
I have CWM Recovery 3.x right now, should I upgrade to the 5.x one?
What's this Amon_Ra Recovery I've been seeing? Is it different? better?
Should I start with CM 7.0.3 or jump right into the new 7.1.0?
What kind of changes can I expect to see to functions and appearance? Will I still have all of the basic apps? i.e. camera, gallery, swype, bluetooth, gps, weather, calender, clock, etc? What about the T-Mobile specific things like MyAccount? Does it effect the Genius Button?
I want to know what kind of work will be involved with getting my phone back to the way I like it and what kinds of things will be replaced(I assume with better apps) or removed all together requiring me to find replacements. I've tried to review the changelog, but quite frankly, I don't understand most of what it lists.
I use LauncherPro and Folder Organizer.
Will all of that stuff still be there on my homescreens?
Will I need to redo all of my settings, ringtones, wallpapers, alarms, etc?
Yes, I want to be rid of sense and use CM instead.
Yes, I want to be updated to GingerBread without waiting anymore for the OTA
No, I do not want to lose my customization, apps or anything else except the bloatware.
I have a full titanium pro backup of all apps and system files plus data.
I have a nandroid backup done through clockwork mod recovery.
My e-mail, calender & contacts should be backed up through Google.
I use SMS Backup & Restore for all of my texts and Handcent is the app.
I backed up my LauncherPro and my Folder Organizer.
I have the SD card backed up in full on my PC.
Did I miss anything?
I read that I should wipe not just the phone but my SD card too and do a partition on it for Apps2SD. Do I wipe, partition, then just copy everything back to it? Is it better to do it while in the phone connected to the pc or pop it out and do it directly from the pc? Should I be using ADB for any of this?
I'm sure I will come up with even more questions as I continue to research and get answers to these, but thank you so very much to anyone willing to take the time to settle a new root user's overloaded brain. There is just SO much info out there, sometimes it is hard to make sense of it all and this forum has always seemed to me to be not just the most knowledgeable, but also the most willing to break things down and clarify things without judging a poster for being confused. Noobs like me appreciate that.
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You should update clockworkmod recovery just to be on the safe side. I don't believe there is an amon_RA recovery for the MT4G. we only have Clockworkmod and ext4 recovery. I would personally go for clockworkmod.
Now as for which CM7 version, that depends on you. Do you want Android 2.3.4 (CM7) or Android 2.3.7 (CM7.1)? Both are pretty much the same, just a different base and minor changes.
When you flash CM7, you'll need to flash the gapps as well, since Google apps are not preinstalled. Instructions on the CM thread. But besides gapps, all the other stock apps should be there, (minus the bloatware). So like camera, phone, messages, gallery etc will all be there. Tmobile my account can be downloaded from the market for free.
THIS ROM DOES NOT INCLUDE THE GENIUS BUTTON FEATURE, THE BUTTON IS REMAPPED TO THE SEARCH FUNCTION.
Now as for apps and back ups, yes you will lose all data as you are required to do a FULL WIPE. but if you have already backed up apps in titanium backup then you should be fine.
NO NEED TO WIPE THE SDCARD, JUST THE PHONE. well, unless you want to eliminate all error. But I don't suggest you do it.
If you have any more questions, I'll be glad to answer them.
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Only swipe card if you are having issues that you can't solve. Is pretty low the probability that card gives you problems.
For your apps, you can back them up with another app, called titanium back up i.e.
Do not skip this line ! - do not restore your from your google account . That will always bring problems . once you flash the tom, skip the the logging and restore apps from titanium back up. Then log in and skip "restore" from your account in google .
Not too many people know this , and trust me, it will avoid a lot of issues with any ROM
I actually using MIUI and it is amazing. I unplugged my phone last might at 12, went to bed just woke up 1 hour ago and have.been checking emails, xda,,etc on my phone for 35 min and look at my battery
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saranhai said:
NO NEED TO WIPE THE SDCARD, JUST THE PHONE. well, unless you want to eliminate all error. But I don't suggest you do it.
If you have any more questions, I'll be glad to answer them.
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DANCCS said:
Only swipe card if you are having issues that you can't solve. Is pretty low the probability that card gives you problems.
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√Actually, I am having ongoing issues.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=18517474#post18517474
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1209747
http://androidforums.com/t-mobile-mytouch-4g/370666-sd-card-issues-appear-contagious.html
I'm hoping in addition to all of the regular added benefits of flashing a new ROM that these issues will be solved once and for all as well...
√So, knowing that, what do you think? Wipe the SD too?
DANCCS said:
Do not skip this line ! - do not restore your from your google account . That will always bring problems . once you flash the tom, skip the the logging and restore apps from titanium back up. Then log in and skip "restore" from your account in google .
Not too many people know this , and trust me, it will avoid a lot of issues with any ROM
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√I'm confused... Do you mean do not install GAPPS, but install my Titanium backups instead or just don't restore my Google info such as email, contacts, calender, etc?
saranhai said:
When you flash CM7, you'll need to flash the gapps as well, since Google apps are not preinstalled. Instructions on the CM thread. But besides gapps, all the other stock apps should be there, (minus the bloatware). So like camera, phone, messages, gallery etc will all be there. Tmobile my account can be downloaded from the market for free.
THIS ROM DOES NOT INCLUDE THE GENIUS BUTTON FEATURE, THE BUTTON IS REMAPPED TO THE SEARCH FUNCTION.
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√Currently when I use my Bluetooth it utilizes the genius button features for commands to access calls, maps, navigation, searches, etc when I am in the car. So will I no longer be able to use my Bluetooth or voice commands? If so, recommended replacement?
Thanks guys
saranhai said:
You should update clockworkmod recovery just to be on the safe side. I don't believe there is an amon_RA recovery for the MT4G. we only have Clockworkmod and ext4 recovery. I would personally go for clockworkmod.
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OK, well since I have CWM now, I will just stick with that and update it. Thanks.
saranhai said:
Now as for which CM7 version, that depends on you. Do you want Android 2.3.4 (CM7) or Android 2.3.7 (CM7.1)? Both are pretty much the same, just a different base and minor changes.
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√Would you mind elaborating on the differences/changes? √What do you mean by a different base?
saranhai said:
Now as for apps and back ups, yes you will lose all data as you are required to do a FULL WIPE. but if you have already backed up apps in titanium backup then you should be fine.
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√Yeah, I think I have the apps pretty well covered in backups, but what about the other stuff?
[√Ringtones, alerts, clock alarms, calender alarms, wallpapers, etc. Not the actual files but the settings assigning them.
√All the personalized and customized stuff?
√Settings like my saved wi-fi networks, preferences like default apps to use for browser, messages, etc.
There's so many little things and tweaks I've made I fear I won't be able to find/remember them all again to get everything back the way it was.
√Will that all be gone?
√I understand some of it gets backed up in the nandroid backup, but that does me no good with a new ROM, because that it is only useful if I want to flash back to the stock ROM, correct? Is there another way to save all of the settings & customizations? Or am I just thoroughly misinformed and confused?
Sorraia3 said:
OK, well since I have CWM now, I will just stick with that and update it. Thanks.
Would you mind elaborating on the differences/changes? What do you mean by a different base?
Yeah, I think I have the apps pretty well covered in backups, but what about the other stuff? Ringtones, alerts, clock alarms, calender alarms, wallpapers, etc. Not the actual files but the settings assigning them. All the personalized and customized stuff? Settings like my saved wi-fi networks, preferences like default apps to use for browser, messages, etc. There's so many little things and tweaks I've made I fear I won't be able to find/remember them all again to get everything back the way it was. Will that all be gone? I understand some of it gets backed up in the nandroid backup, but that does me no good with a new ROM, because that it is only useful if I want to flash back to the stock ROM, correct? Is there another way to save all of the settings & customizations? Or am I just thoroughly misinformed and confused?
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lol someone has lots of questions
but that's ok
really, android 2.3.4 and 2.3.7 don't have any BIG differences, or noticeable ones. base means the android version that the rom is based on/running on.
titanium backup only covers apps, all of the rest of the settings WILL BE ERASED, sorry. when you wipe the phone in clockworkmod recovery, you're basically doing a factory reset. doing a nandroid backup only back ups the CURRENT rom your phone is running right now, in your case, stock 2.2.1. the nandroid is used to go back to in case you need it.
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sorraia3 said:
i'm confused... Do you mean do not install gapps, but install my titanium backups instead or just don't restore my google info such as email, contacts, calender, etc?
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if you are going to flash cm7, you must manually install gapps, since they are not included in the rom.
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DANCCS said:
Only swipe card if you are having issues that you can't solve. Is pretty low the probability that card gives you problems.
For your apps, you can back them up with another app, called titanium back up i.e.
Do not skip this line ! - do not restore your from your google account . That will always bring problems . once you flash the tom, skip the the logging and restore apps from titanium back up. Then log in and skip "restore" from your account in google .
Not too many people know this , and trust me, it will avoid a lot of issues with any ROM
I actually using MIUI and it is amazing. I unplugged my phone last might at 12, went to bed just woke up 1 hour ago and have.been checking emails, xda,,etc on my phone for 35 min and look at my battery
Btw, I bought a 1700 battery capacity
Sent from my HTC Glacier using XDA App
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lol that's nothing
look at the great battery life i've gotten using Virtuous Unity:
saranhai said:
lol someone has lots of questions
but that's ok
really, android 2.3.4 and 2.3.7 don't have any BIG differences, or noticeable ones. base means the android version that the rom is based on/running on.
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√OK Thanks, so I should be able to find a list somewhere of Gingerbread features and that's what will be in the ROM? Is there a straightforward list somewhere, in layman's terms, of what apps & features & such come with it or don't? Does the appearance of things change? Like the settings screens, notifications, lock screen, etc?
saranhai said:
titanium backup only covers apps, all of the rest of the settings WILL BE ERASED, sorry. when you wipe the phone in clockworkmod recovery, you're basically doing a factory reset. doing a nandroid backup only back ups the CURRENT rom your phone is running right now, in your case, stock 2.2.1. the nandroid is used to go back to in case you need it.
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√I found another App called MyBackup Root that says it backs up Data including System Settings, Android Home, Alarms, Dictionary, Calendar, PlayLists, MMS, SMS, Bookmarks, Call Logs, & Contacts. The first 2, System Settings & Android Home, think they will cover all that extra customization stuff? And will it give me any problems when I restore it?
saranhai said:
if you are going to flash cm7, you must manually install gapps, since they are not included in the rom.
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√OK, and then once I install the actual apps from there, I use Titanium to restore my settings and data?
Sorraia3 said:
OK Thanks, so I should be able to find a list somewhere of Gingerbread features and that's what will be in the ROM? Is there a straightforward list somewhere, in layman's terms, of what apps & features & such come with it or don't? Does the appearance of things change? Like the settings screens, notifications, lock screen, etc?
I found another App called MyBackup Root that says it backs up Data including System Settings, Android Home, Alarms, Dictionary, Calendar, PlayLists, MMS, SMS, Bookmarks, Call Logs, & Contacts. The first 2, System Settings & Android Home, think they will cover all that extra customization stuff? And will it give me any problems when I restore it?
OK, and then once I install the actual apps from there, I use Titanium to restore my settings and data?
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android 2.3.4 and 2.3.7 don't have any big changes, google it, and maybe you can find some screenshots.
you can't back up the phone, dictionary, android home, system app etc from stock MT4G and restore it once you are in CM7. the roms are totally different, the apps were made for HTC roms, and you are running AOSP.
once you install the gapps, yes, you can use titanium to restore your downloaded apps+data. BUT NOT SYSTEM APPS BACKED UP FROM YOUR PREVIOUS ROM.
saranhai said:
android 2.3.4 and 2.3.7 don't have any big changes, google it, and maybe you can find some screenshots.
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OK thanks, I will look.
saranhai said:
you can't back up the phone, dictionary, android home, system app etc from stock MT4G and restore it once you are in CM7. the roms are totally different, the apps were made for HTC roms, and you are running AOSP.
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√OK, so if I understand correctly. The CM7 ROM has it's own apps which replace the stock ones and I will need to set them up all over again. Correct?
?Is there a list of these apps out there so I can go through my current ones and maybe write down key settings to use when setting up the new ones?
saranhai said:
once you install the gapps, yes, you can use titanium to restore your downloaded apps+data. BUT NOT SYSTEM APPS BACKED UP FROM YOUR PREVIOUS ROM.
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√So any App that I actually downloaded and installed myself after getting the phone, but nothing that came on the phone initially with the Stock ROM, correct? It just won't do it or it will cause problems?
Sorraia3 said:
OK thanks, I will look.
OK, so if I understand correctly. The CM7 ROM has it's own apps which replace the stock ones and I will need to set them up all over again. Correct?
Is there a list of these apps out there so I can go through my current ones and maybe write down key settings to use when setting up the new ones?
So any App that I actually downloaded and installed myself after getting the phone, but nothing that came on the phone initially with the Stock ROM, correct? It just won't do it or it will cause problems?
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yes, that's all correct.
well, list...? you mean like list of all the stock apps on CM7?
if you try to restore the stock apps from another rom onto this rom, it will get messed up.
saranhai said:
yes, that's all correct.
well, list...? you mean like list of all the stock apps on CM7?
if you try to restore the stock apps from another rom onto this rom, it will get messed up.
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Yes, like I've seen some ROMs that have listed features such as includes camera, calendar, messages, etc or what they have added like screenshot, apps2sd, etc But I can't seem to find anything like that for CM7. I've looked at the Changelog page but it lists everything like fixes and updates and tweaks, and a lot of it I don't understand. For example... it lists... Common: Camera timer - Danesh Mondegarian
√Does that mean it comes with a camera or just that it adds a timer to the camera app, but I have to get & install the app?
And this has to be an inside joke, right? Common: "eat" pushes fresh brunch/breakfast to device - Ricardo Cerqueira
Good to know about the stock apps. Thank You! I probably would have tried to restore everything if you hadn't said something. See, questions overload pays off LOL
√So once I flash the ROM, Should I actually re-download and reinstall my apps, will it find them automatically from the SD card, or do I have to restore everything from the backups?
√I saw you mention the VU ROM... I was looking into that one awhile ago before I settled on CM7. How do you like it? That's a Sense one, right? Much different from CM? How hard would it be to switch between them to check them both out?
saranhai said:
android 2.3.4 and 2.3.7 don't have any big changes, google it, and maybe you can find some screenshots.
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Sorraia3 said:
OK thanks, I will look.
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UPDATE: I found a decent list here... http://developer.android.com/sdk/android-2.3-highlights.html
oddly though, it only goes up to 2.3.4, no 2.3.7, but from what I could gather elsewhere the only main changes from .4 to .7 were for the Nexus S and Galaxy S, so I guess I need to look more at the difference between CM 7.0.3 & CM 7.1.0 to decide.
√And in that case 7.1 should just add on to whatever was already there in 7.0, right?
And OMG 4.0, Ice Cream Sandwich, looks amazing! I can't wait.
Sorraia3 said:
Yes, like I've seen some ROMs that have listed features such as includes camera, calendar, messages, etc or what they have added like screenshot, apps2sd, etc But I can't seem to find anything like that for CM7. I've looked at the Changelog page but it lists everything like fixes and updates and tweaks, and a lot of it I don't understand. For example... it lists... Common: Camera timer - Danesh Mondegarian
?Does that mean it comes with a camera or just that it adds a timer to the camera app, but I have to get & install the app?
And this has to be an inside joke, right? Common: "eat" pushes fresh brunch/breakfast to device - Ricardo Cerqueira
Good to know about the stock apps. Thank You! I probably would have tried to restore everything if you hadn't said something. See, questions overload pays off LOL
?So once I flash the ROM, Should I actually re-download and reinstall my apps, will it find them automatically from the SD card, or do I have to restore everything from the backups?
?I saw you mention the VU ROM... I was looking into that one awhile ago before I settled on CM7. How do you like it? That's a Sense one, right? Much different from CM? How hard would it be to switch between them to check them both out?
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You would have to restore the data manually through titanium backup.
VU is AMAZINGGGG
Awesome battery life, smooth as butter, beautiful UI. better than CM7 IMO lol. VU is a Sense 3.0 Tom based off of the HTC Sensation.
VU is a LOT different from CM, since one is sense and the other is AOSP.
It wouldn't be very hard to switch between them and try both of them, just do the basics for both Roms:
1) MAKE A NANDROID BACKUP
2) do a full wipe (DATA, CACHE, DALVIK CACHE)
3) flash rom.zip
4) reboot, wait patiently (first boot should take longer)
5) enjoy!
6) flash any other mods/tweaks/themes etc
7) hit the thanks button
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saranhai said:
VU is AMAZINGGGG
Awesome battery life, smooth as butter, beautiful UI. better than CM7 IMO lol. VU is a Sense 3.0 Tom based off of the HTC Sensation.
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Hmmm... My son and his girlfriend both have the Sensation. They love them. OK, I will definitely check that one out too.
Which is the current stable version to get? Do I still need the GAPPS?
I would love to see a side by side comparison chart of ROM apps and features. Can't believe no one has done one yet. Although I guess with all of the frequent updates to ROMs it would be a pain to maintain.
Thank you for answering so many of my questions, saranhai, you've been very kind and patient. Would you mind taking one more look through these posts and see if you might be able to answer any of the remaining ones with question marks? Thanks so much!
Sorraia3 said:
Hmmm... My son and his girlfriend both have the Sensation. They love them. OK, I will definitely check that one out too.
Which is the current stable version to get? Do I still need the GAPPS?
I would love to see a side by side comparison chart of ROM apps and features. Can't believe no one has done one yet. Although I guess with all of the frequent updates to ROMs it would be a pain to maintain.
Thank you for answering so many of my questions, saranhai, you've been very kind and patient. Would you mind taking one more look through these posts and see if you might be able to answer any of the remaining ones with question marks? Thanks so much!
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Yes definitely check out VU
The most stable version would be the latest one, v2.39.
You don't need to flash gapps for this Rom, they're all included
I suggest you wait until the Virtuous team releases their sense 3.5 version
I can't wait!!
Lol no problem bro, just hit the thanks button if I've helped
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saranhai said:
Yes definitely check out VU
The most stable version would be the latest one, v2.39.
You don't need to flash gapps for this Rom, they're all included
I suggest you wait until the Virtuous team releases their sense 3.5 version
I can't wait!!
Lol no problem bro, just hit the thanks button if I've helped
Sent from my HTC Glacier Sense 3.0 using xda premium
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OK, thanks! I'll check out the 2.39 for now to see if it's for me or not.
Oh and I'm not a "bro" LOL
Sorraia3 said:
OK, thanks! I'll check out the 2.39 for now to see if it's for me or not.
Oh and I'm not a "bro" LOL
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haha sorry man, it's just my way of calling people
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haha sorry man, it's just my way of calling people
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No problem, considering all of the time you've been taking to help me, you can call me whatever you like. lol
Still have a few outstanding questions though, if you or anyone else would mind answering them. Thanks!
Regarding flashing CM or VU:
saranhai said:
THIS ROM DOES NOT INCLUDE THE GENIUS BUTTON FEATURE, THE BUTTON IS REMAPPED TO THE SEARCH FUNCTION.
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√Currently when I use my Bluetooth it utilizes the genius button features for commands to access calls, maps, navigation, searches, etc when I am in the car. So will I no longer be able to use my Bluetooth or voice commands? If so, recommended replacement?
saranhai said:
well, list...? you mean like list of all the stock apps on CM7?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Yes, like I've seen some ROMs that have listed features such as includes camera, calendar, messages, etc or what they have added like screenshot, apps2sd, etc But I can't seem to find anything like that for CM7. I've looked at the Changelog page but it lists everything like fixes and updates and tweaks, and a lot of it I don't understand. For example... it lists... Common: Camera timer - Danesh Mondegarian
?Does that mean it comes with a camera or just that it adds a timer to the camera app, but I have to get & install the app?
And this has to be an inside joke, right? Common: "eat" pushes fresh brunch/breakfast to device - Ricardo Cerqueira
...so I guess I need to look more at the difference between CM 7.0.3 & CM 7.1.0 to decide.
√And in that case 7.1 should just add on to whatever was already there in 7.0, right?
Regarding the SD Card:
I read that I should wipe not just the phone but my SD card too and do a partition on it for Apps2SD.
?Do I wipe, partition, then just copy everything back to it?
√Is it better to do it while in the phone connected to the pc or pop it out and do it directly from the pc?
√Should I be using ADB for any of this?
saranhai said:
NO NEED TO WIPE THE SDCARD, JUST THE PHONE. well, unless you want to eliminate all error. But I don't suggest you do it.
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DANCCS said:
Only swipe card if you are having issues that you can't solve. Is pretty low the probability that card gives you problems.
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√Actually, I am having ongoing issues.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=18517474#post18517474
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1209747
http://androidforums.com/t-mobile-mytouch-4g/370666-sd-card-issues-appear-contagious.html
I'm hoping in addition to all of the regular added benefits of flashing a new ROM that these issues will be solved once and for all as well...
√So, knowing that, what do you think? Wipe the SD too?
Sorraia3 said:
No problem, considering all of the time you've been taking to help me, you can call me whatever you like. lol
Still have a few outstanding questions though, if you or anyone else would mind answering them. Thanks!
Regarding flashing CM or VU:
?Currently when I use my Bluetooth it utilizes the genius button features for commands to access calls, maps, navigation, searches, etc when I am in the car. So will I no longer be able to use my Bluetooth or voice commands? If so, recommended replacement?
Yes, like I've seen some ROMs that have listed features such as includes camera, calendar, messages, etc or what they have added like screenshot, apps2sd, etc But I can't seem to find anything like that for CM7. I've looked at the Changelog page but it lists everything like fixes and updates and tweaks, and a lot of it I don't understand. For example... it lists... Common: Camera timer - Danesh Mondegarian
?Does that mean it comes with a camera or just that it adds a timer to the camera app, but I have to get & install the app?
And this has to be an inside joke, right? Common: "eat" pushes fresh brunch/breakfast to device - Ricardo Cerqueira
...so I guess I need to look more at the difference between CM 7.0.3 & CM 7.1.0 to decide.
?And in that case 7.1 should just add on to whatever was already there in 7.0, right?
Regarding the SD Card:
I read that I should wipe not just the phone but my SD card too and do a partition on it for Apps2SD.
?Do I wipe, partition, then just copy everything back to it?
?Is it better to do it while in the phone connected to the pc or pop it out and do it directly from the pc?
?Should I be using ADB for any of this?
?Actually, I am having ongoing issues.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=18517474#post18517474
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1209747
http://androidforums.com/t-mobile-mytouch-4g/370666-sd-card-issues-appear-contagious.html
I'm hoping in addition to all of the regular added benefits of flashing a new ROM that these issues will be solved once and for all as well...
?So, knowing that, what do you think? Wipe the SD too?
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for VU: if the genius button feature is not present, you can still use bluetooth and voice commands for google search. google search is pretty much the same thing as genius, maybe not as many features, but not bad at all.
all roms should include the stock apps, messages, camera, phone, calender, calculator, etc etc, and that includes CM7. i'm not so sure about the camera timer on CM7 though. really, it doesn't matter which version you install, though i would suggest CM7.1 because it seems more stable to me.
SDcard: if you are experiencing issues, then yes, wipe the SDcard and partition it. i would say that you pop out the SDcard and plug it into the computer, just to be on the safe side
you shouldn't need to be using adb for any of this.

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