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[Q] Where is the GB OTA update stored?

So I've searched and everyone seems to say that the OTA updates are stored in the cache folder. I've looked there and don't see it (there's nothing at all in the cache folder).
I've been on Froyo with Syndicate Frozen ROM and am quite happy with things as they are. But my phone decided to automatically download the new update and it's been bugging me about installing it.
I've since blocked the SystemUpdate.apk and it doesn't bother me every 15 minutes like it used to, but when I reboot the phone it still tells me that it's been downloaded and is ready to install.
I don't suppose it's that big of a deal to just disregard the message on the rare occasion of a reboot, but still.. I'd like to delete the file from wherever it's been stored so it never bothers me about it again.
I'm using Adao File Manager if it matters. I'll try root explorer if I have to, but just don't like needlessly installing apps.
Thanks =)

Sooo, you don't like gingerbread?
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Some of us are waiting for gingerbread roms to work the kinks out. I haven't seen one that makes me feel like I need to flash it yet.

sephiroth009 said:
Some of us are waiting for gingerbread roms to work the kinks out. I haven't seen one that makes me feel like I need to flash it yet.
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I thought I was the only one that felt this way! Lol
Yeah I have the same problem - how did you block systemupdate.apk ?

xopher.hunter said:
Sooo, you don't like gingerbread?
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I like my custom ROM and the way things are set up now. Until I can, with little effort, upgrade to gingerbread while also keeping everything the same-- no, I don't like gingerbread. =)
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Some of us are waiting for gingerbread roms to work the kinks out. I haven't seen one that makes me feel like I need to flash it yet.
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altimuh said:
I thought I was the only one that felt this way! Lol
Yeah I have the same problem - how did you block systemupdate.apk ?
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I used Gemini App Manager (it's free in the market). You have to enable USB debugging for a while while you do this. Download it, open it, menu>Expert Mode, scroll down to system update, long press, block app.
You can do something similar with Titanium if you have it, but Gemini is free in the market.
Like I said, it hasn't been bugging me every 15 minutes like it used to, so this is decent solution for the time being, but every time I restart it bugs me about it again. I'd prefer to delete it so I don't have to worry about accidentally pressing okay.

I haven't actually blocked/frozen it yet, it takes me half a second to hit install later but I'm thinking about freezing it. And I get the feeling there may be a gb rom worth flashing in a few days (keeping an eye on you starsky for that theme =P).
EDIT: oh I heard the ota may also be in data/cache
EDIT 2.0: my update is sitting right in /cache

Apparently Adeo doesn't see the update. I installed Root Explorer, found and removed the update. Still pops up on every reboot. Very annoying. =\
I'm tempted to make a nandroid backup and press install just to see what happens.

Carrier IQ

All right the company Carrier IQ is suddenly popping up in news stories everywhere. I assume I am safe from this garbage if I am using Cyanogenmod but how do I make sure my Wife's shift is clean of this if she's using Stock rooted 2.2? She will not let me change roms or even upgrade her to 2.3 so I would like to know what I need to delete to make sure Carrier IQ is not installed on her Shift or at least not sending any info back to it's mother ship.
If you haven't heard Carrier IQ is installed on millions of phones of different manufacturer's and is supported by many carriers including HTC and Sprint. It collects data and sends it back to Sprint or who knows who. Apparently it can log everything and it ignores any permissions or security you have set up or something like that. It is installed "invisibly" and you do not have the option to opt in or out. I assume Titanium or some other program can see the pieces I would need to delete but I don't know what they are.
Here's where I read about it and it does list an app that may be able to take care of it but I would rather know how to do it manually:
http://www.engadget.com/2011/12/01/carrier-iq-what-it-is-what-it-isnt-and-what-you-need-to/#comments
Thanks

Evo_Shift said:
All right the company Carrier IQ is suddenly popping up in news stories everywhere. I assume I am safe from this garbage if I am using Cyanogenmod but how do I make sure my Wife's shift is clean of this if she's using Stock rooted 2.2? She will not let me change roms or even upgrade her to 2.3 so I would like to know what I need to delete to make sure Carrier IQ is not installed on her Shift or at least not sending any info back to it's mother ship.
If you haven't heard Carrier IQ is installed on millions of phones of different manufacturer's and is supported by many carriers including HTC and Sprint. It collects data and sends it back to Sprint or who knows who. Apparently it can log everything and it ignores any permissions or security you have set up or something like that. It is installed "invisibly" and you do not have the option to opt in or out. I assume Titanium or some other program can see the pieces I would need to delete but I don't know what they are.
Here's where I read about it and it does list an app that may be able to take care of it but I would rather know how to do it manually:
http://www.engadget.com/2011/12/01/carrier-iq-what-it-is-what-it-isnt-and-what-you-need-to/#comments
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Run supreme sense

VICODAN said:
Run supreme sense
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I know! I told my wife it is better...she still says no

You can use Treve's app http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=17612559
https://market.android.com/details?id=com.treve.loggingkey

Evo_Shift said:
I know! I told my wife it is better...she still says no
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Show her that video and tell her you want a divorce if she doesn't agree.
lol jk about the divorce part but seriously I just watched that video and im so glad im not on stock sense.

Flash MikShifted G v1.76 or Supreme Sense, then hand her back the phone. If she doesn't like them better than stock there is something wrong

i think people over think things too much about these little threats

+1 OP, I'm in exactly the same boat!
Unfortunately it seems at this point, no way to remove CIQ without root

guyandhisdog said:
+1 OP, I'm in exactly the same boat!
Unfortunately it seems at this point, no way to remove CIQ without root
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I think he already mentioned that yes she does have root on stock if you read the OP. So yes titanium backup should be able to remove it no problem. Use the app carrier IQ detector to find out how much of it needs to be removed.

CIQ is built into the kernel too. He needs to swap kernels as well as remove the apps.
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Ron Overdrive said:
CIQ is built into the kernel too. He needs to swap kernels as well as remove the apps.
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I looked at the kernel. All there is in the kernel is bug fixes to allow CIQ to run properly. If you remove the system apps there is nothing for the bug fixes in the kernel to use.
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has anyone used the advanced version of treve's app on a shift successfully?
or removed the the ciq stuff manually with success? if so is there anything that needs to stay on the device so it doesn't brick.
i'm using a stock rooted rom and kind of want to stick with it.

SE Android

I just read today about the new SE Android put together by the NSA and was curious to know a little more about it, it sounds like an interesting project.
First I was wondering if any developers plan to put together ROMs for our phone using this and second, what would be the benefit, if any, for us using SE Android? Near as I can tell this is best for people that just want to click and download apps from the market without ever really finding out what they do, what info they access, etc... If that is truly the only benefit here then it seems like it's not really that interesting of a topic.
Any feedback from devs (or non-devs) would be appreciated, I am very curious.

From the SELinux Project Page
http://selinuxproject.org/page/SEAndroid
Techworld
http://news.techworld.com/security/3330932/nsa-releases-security-enhanced-version-of-android/
ZDNet
http://www.zdnet.com/blog/security/nsa-releases-security-enhanced-android-os/10108
I looked at XDA as well and it looks like there may be a ROM for the Thunderbolt as well
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1447429
Sorry about not previously providing links. I just figured that devs would be more in the know than I and would have already heard if something was out there.
edit: looks like it's not actually a ROM for the thunderbolt yet, just talk of someone developing it at this point.

This should build just fine since we're cm7 official
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I'd be skeptical of anything from the NSA. It could make their job of "intercepting", 100% easier. That's not coming anywhere near anything I own.
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azyouthinkeyeiz said:
I'd be skeptical of anything from the NSA. It could make their job of "intercepting", 100% easier. That's not coming anywhere near anything I own.
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indeed. NSA. I uninstalled it, and got probs with sending sms, They simply don't send after uninstalling that seandroid app. There's that everending waving blue circle pointer. However, uninstalling got me rid of the grey triangle notification message called 'Detect information'.
anyone seen this message too ? What did you do to get rid of it ? OR what did you do to get rid of the app from NSA ?
ugothakd> This should build just fine since we're cm7 official
What on earth are you talking about. I don't see the OP mentioning in his post that he's using CM7 official. For sure I am not.

Have we obtained root? Can I help?

Do we need help getting root on this phone, or is everything the same as the international version? I have my phone in hand, if anyone needs system dumps or anything like that.

Same. i have all the dumps and source on my pc and my phone in hand. LETS DO THIS :cyclops:

Root that $h!t and let us know how it goes. Also, see if the CWM Recovery for the international will work
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I have rooted a test unit, wonder if the retail unit is as easy
PM me if you have one and want it rooted.

designgears said:
I have rooted a test unit, wonder if the retail unit is as easy
PM me if you have one and want it rooted.
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Pm sent.
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designgears said:
I have rooted a test unit, wonder if the retail unit is as easy
PM me if you have one and want it rooted.
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Why not post?
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jumanji404 said:
Why not post?
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why would I post something without confirming it works?

designgears said:
why would I post something without confirming it works?
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I think the disclaimer that it was on a test unit is sufficient.. No?
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jumanji404 said:
I think the disclaimer that it was on a test unit is sufficient.. No?
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No, because then who are the dumb a$$es going to blame and bug if it does not work, or breaks something.
Not a smart idea for a dev to post something that they are not sure of, and possibly have people lose faith in that developer. I know as a dev I would not post ANYTHING, that I was not sure if it worked or not. Even if I did it on a test unit, and not a retail phone.

jimbridgman said:
No, because then who are the dumb a$$es going to blame and bug if it does not work, or breaks something.
Not a smart idea for a dev to post something that they are not sure of, and possibly have people lose faith in that developer. I know as a dev I would not post ANYTHING, that I was not sure if it worked or not. Even if I did it on a test unit, and not a retail phone.
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Fair enough.. guess I wouldn't hold anyone responsible.. especially this early in the game..
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designgears said:
why would I post something without confirming it works?
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DG - are you actually going to hang around here at XDA for a bit or are you just teasing us? :laugh:
This forum is going to need to experienced devs!

designgears said:
I have rooted a test unit, wonder if the retail unit is as easy
PM me if you have one and want it rooted.
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Designgears... I remember you since you quit working on moto matrix ...
Nice to see you here though. Good news for att guys.
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jdbeitz said:
Same. i have all the dumps and source on my pc and my phone in hand. LETS DO THIS :cyclops:
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Send me the stock boot image please so I can root it.
Mark.

Unless you're going to install a custom ROM, it's not as important anymore to root these phones.
The SIII lets you uninstall [disable] almost any stock app you want.
After disabling a ****-load of stock apps, I am getting awesome battery & performance from my S III.
I'd like to see some theming and custom ROM's and overclocking though of course.

CZ Eddie said:
Unless you're going to install a custom ROM, it's not as important anymore to root these phones.
The SIII lets you uninstall [disable] almost any stock app you want.
After disabling a ****-load of stock apps, I am getting awesome battery & performance from my S III.
I'd like to see some theming and custom ROM's and overclocking though of course.
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Eh, that's debateable. In the end it boils down to what you want to do with the device. For me? I want root so I can reinstall Cerberus to the System folder so even if someone wipes my phone, I can still track it. Can't do that without root.

CZ Eddie said:
Unless you're going to install a custom ROM, it's not as important anymore to root these phones.
The SIII lets you uninstall [disable] almost any stock app you want.
After disabling a ****-load of stock apps, I am getting awesome battery & performance from my S III.
I'd like to see some theming and custom ROM's and overclocking though of course.
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Disabaling apps? U can't 100%;disable half this crap At&t put on here .
Awesome battery life? What r u comparison 2? The phone just came out.
Without Root and a custom rom this phone is a SLOW!! ass paper weight! Back to my Galaxy Nexus till we have root for me; )
Yell at me if u want but there's 1000's of us that would take this back to the store if there was no Root; )

drawde40599 said:
Disabaling apps? U can't 100%;disable half this crap At&t put on here .
Awesome battery life? What r u comparison 2? The phone just came out.
Without Root and a custom rom this phone is a SLOW!! ass paper weight! Back to my Galaxy Nexus till we have root for me; )
Yell at me if u want but there's 1000's of us that would take this back to the store if there was no Root; )
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Actually most of the AT&T stuff can be disabled. The only thing I really can't disable is AT&T Address Book. Other than that? Every AT&T App (all 5 of them) was able to be disabled.....so I'm not sure what you speak of.

naturefreak85 said:
Actually most of the AT&T stuff can be disabled. The only thing I really can't disable is AT&T Address Book. Other than that? Every AT&T App (all 5 of them) was able to be disabled.....so I'm not sure what you speak of.
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Me either. Me thinks he doesn't even have the phone.....

Baldilocks said:
Me either. Me thinks he doesn't even have the phone.....
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Yea, this is actually the first AT&T Smartphone where I haven't cursed them out for the amount of bloatware installed. Granted I did immediately load Apex Launcher to tide me over until I can install CM9. I hate how touchwiz looks, but that's not AT&T, that's Samsung. This thing honestly speeds along, especially with websites. I'm also apparently in an LTE test area.....with a piss poor signal I was pulling about a 20mbit download and 13 mbit upload. I have to say, it's faster and more responsive than my GSII with CM9. That's impressive considering it is running TW.
Also from looking at his posts he did order it....so he could be using the GNex until he can. Though this pretty much is the GNex....just not running stock Android.

CZ Eddie said:
Unless you're going to install a custom ROM, it's not as important anymore to root these phones.
The SIII lets you uninstall [disable] almost any stock app you want.
After disabling a ****-load of stock apps, I am getting awesome battery & performance from my S III.
I'd like to see some theming and custom ROM's and overclocking though of course.
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Are you forgetting Titanium Backup oh and some Juice Defender stuff needs root. Root is the only way to go.

[RECOVERY] Explain how I got here...

Any ideas how to GTFO of here?

ZPaul2Fresh8 said:
Any ideas how to GTFO of here?
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While selecting the "Reboot System" dialog, hit the power button.

JIM2004 said:
While selecting the "Reboot System" dialog, hit the power button.
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LoL I wish that worked. Reboots back here LMAO some more. I can restore through Odin if I had too. Let me try somethings first...

same problem here
ZPaul2Fresh8 said:
Any ideas how to GTFO of here?
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i have the same problem after rooting my phone using motochopper. how do i get out of this??

delete

wttisme said:
If you restore through Odin and don't do a factory reset, all of your data will still be there. You can re-run the OTA update and try rooting again if you'd like. I actually used the modified zip file found in the root thread and didn't have any issues. You can find it here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=41190064&postcount=413
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yes I did restore with Odin. This all happened after installing Cydia with Xposed frame work. They obviously won't work well together but I wanted to try Cydia and keep Xposed longterm.
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ZPaul2Fresh8 said:
yes I did restore with Odin. This all happened after installing Cydia with Xposed frame work. They obviously won't work well together but I wanted to try Cydia and keep Xposed longterm.
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how do you do a restore with ODIN what boxes did you check and what did you do on the phone while it keeps rebooting into recovery? I'm very new to this as I just switched over from the 4S

TheHelmetDancer said:
how do you do a restore with ODIN what boxes did you check and what did you do on the phone while it keeps rebooting into recovery? I'm very new to this as I just switched over from the 4S
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Do yourself and everyone else a favor and do a lot of reading. This should get you a good start. Good luck...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2261573

scott14719 said:
Do yourself and everyone else a favor and do a lot of reading. This should get you a good start. Good luck...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2261573
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thanks for that. has anyone else installed the Cydia and Winterboard app and run into the same problem? I didn't even mess with it I just opened it up for the first time to see if it was like the one from ios

ZPaul2Fresh8 said:
yes I did restore with Odin. This all happened after installing Cydia with Xposed frame work. They obviously won't work well together but I wanted to try Cydia and keep Xposed longterm.
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Happened to me too on my first shut down/power up after installing Winterboard. Fun part is that I was on the phone with AT&T when it happened. Was *****ing at them for throttling me. 2 new phones in 15 days, of course I went over 5 GB. Unlimited my ass.
ODINed up, updated, and re-rooted with the updated Chopper. Right as rain now.

TheHelmetDancer said:
thanks for that. has anyone else installed the Cydia and Winterboard app and run into the same problem? I didn't even mess with it I just opened it up for the first time to see if it was like the one from ios
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It just happened to me just now. Will Odin back to stock and will uninstall cydia.

sfb14 said:
It just happened to me just now. Will Odin back to stock and will uninstall cydia.
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Odin will not uninstall any apps but it will revoke root access and prevent Cydia from causing your problem. Then remove it after you boot up. Reroot and your back to normal.
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gheck911 said:
Happened to me too on my first shut down/power up after installing Winterboard. Fun part is that I was on the phone with AT&T when it happened. Was *****ing at them for throttling me. 2 new phones in 15 days, of course I went over 5 GB. Unlimited my ass.
ODINed up, updated, and re-rooted with the updated Chopper. Right as rain now.
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So is Cydia Substrate and Winterboard not compatible together with motochopper root? Coming from the IOS side Cydia and Winterboard were pretty much everything when it came to customizing the iPhone and super easy to use so I hope that is not the case

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So is Cydia Substrate and Winterboard not compatible together with motochopper root? Coming from the IOS side Cydia and Winterboard were pretty much everything when it came to customizing the iPhone and super easy to use so I hope that is not the case
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I would say they're are some bugs that need ironed out. I know Saurik knows his stuff and this is the initial release so it will get better.
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TheHelmetDancer said:
So is Cydia Substrate and Winterboard not compatible together with motochopper root? Coming from the IOS side Cydia and Winterboard were pretty much everything when it came to customizing the iPhone and super easy to use so I hope that is not the case
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Cydia causes a huge problem with the S4. Touch wiz was even removed from the compatibility list in the description. My advice is stay away. Once we're able to flash ROMs we won't need it anyway.
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I keep getting stuck at the ATT logo during boot up and I tried to Odin but get this. I am usually proficient with all things root but this has me stumped. Any idea what i am missing or doing wrong?
Oh, the stuck on ATT logo came about from inadvertently running a rom installer on computer with phone connected and not moving the proper files to the phone.

mickeywdw1254 said:
I keep getting stuck at the ATT logo during boot up and I tried to Odin but get this. I am usually proficient with all things root but this has me stumped. Any idea what i am missing or doing wrong?
Oh, the stuck on ATT logo came about from inadvertently running a rom installer on computer with phone connected and not moving the proper files to the phone.
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Sorry for the late response, have you fixed your problem yet? What version of Odin are you running? Are you using a quality USB cable? Have you tried another COM port? Hopefully you already fixed it but just in case...
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ZPaul2Fresh8 said:
Sorry for the late response, have you fixed your problem yet? What version of Odin are you running? Are you using a quality USB cable? Have you tried another COM port? Hopefully you already fixed it but just in case...
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No problem, I appreciate any response. It turns out I just had a laptop that decided to become a paper weight. Odin'd on a newer faster computer and everything went great!
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Nitroglycerin said:
Cydia causes a huge problem with the S4. Touch wiz was even removed from the compatibility list in the description. My advice is stay away. Once we're able to flash ROMs we won't need it anyway.
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(The description never had a compatibility list.) FWIW, the issue with the S4 was caused by something Samsung did that was rather weird (putting some libcutils.so symbols into their liblog.so, probably to make it easier for them to target their proprietary tools to their device using the NDK). Later versions of Substrate now are able to detect such symbol incompatibilities on the device by comparing the symbol tables of the various libraries. I also noticed, with some third-party testing and some testing I was able to do in person, that some of Samsung's tools seem to be relying on some uninitialized memory, so I blacklisted those processes (and when I get some more time on the S4 I will look to see if there are things I can do, such as maybe zero'ing the stack before releasing back to the tool, to mitigate this and remove those blacklists). Substrate seems to work without issue or side effect on this device now. I'm sorry about any issues you had .

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(The description never had a compatibility list.) FWIW, the issue with the S4 was caused by something Samsung did that was rather weird (putting some libcutils.so symbols into their liblog.so, probably to make it easier for them to target their proprietary tools to their device using the NDK). Later versions of Substrate now are able to detect such symbol incompatibilities on the device by comparing the symbol tables of the various libraries. I also noticed, with some third-party testing and some testing I was able to do in person, that some of Samsung's tools seem to be relying on some uninitialized memory, so I blacklisted those processes (and when I get some more time on the S4 I will look to see if there are things I can do, such as maybe zero'ing the stack before releasing back to the tool, to mitigate this and remove those blacklists). Substrate seems to work without issue or side effect on this device now. I'm sorry about any issues you had .
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Good to hear Jay. I was looking forward to a reply to my email but this will do.
BTW what other extensions are you going to bring to Android?
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