How does gps work for you" - EVO Shift 4G General

My gps is constantly going in and out while using navigation. It drives me crazy. I had better lock on my hero.
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I have used it twice for about 30 minutes each time and it worked fine both times. Once I was on a speaker call for part of the time as well, about 5 minutes.

danaff37 said:
My gps is constantly going in and out while using navigation. It drives me crazy. I had better lock on my hero.
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Make sure you have Use Wireless networks and Use GPS satellites in the options menu checked. If not, it will cause the phone to strictly rely on the wireless network which will cause crappy perfomance.

Gps sucks on these phones its a known issue
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Download "GPS Status and Toolbox" from the Market, and keep your GPS cache/data cleared and reset every so often. Works wonders.

i use mine everyday (not so much for navigation but traffic data). works perfectly. there are times when it takes a while to get gps connection, but that's an exception, not the rule.

Ive had my shift for a little over a month. I quickly stopped relying on it for GPS directions but have enabled it for wifi mapping and other location infomation.
ie. facebook 'places' and gasbuddy

alcohol120% said:
Ive had my shift for a little over a month. I quickly stopped relying on it for GPS directions but have enabled it for wifi mapping and other location infomation.
ie. facebook 'places' and gasbuddy
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Was this by choice or because the gps was giving you problems. I have a shift and a evo and the shift is only a few seconds behind on getting a lock.

Jjday7 said:
Was this by choice or because the gps was giving you problems. I have a shift and a evo and the shift is only a few seconds behind on getting a lock.
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Mostly by choice. even though i live in the flattest part of Illinois it takes a little too long to connect. usually its time sensitive and i would rather just call for directions. still relevant to thread imo.
Side note: Yes, i've tried root/nonroot app solutions to speed it up, personally i'd rather call if the lock takes ~1min to connect.

My gps locks just fine within a few seconds; I'd say 10 seconds at the most. It's holding the signal that is the problem. And yes I've tried resetting agps data with gps tools and ##gpsclrx# to no avail. Took it back to radio shack, they tried a data profile and factory reset, and said if it doesn't work they will exchange it tomorrow. Of course it was no better. So I'll get to see if another phone is better tomorrow.

Mine works fine except on the military base I work on...then its sporadic lol
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After more testing. Mine is working but a little wonky sometimes. I notice after a long wait it may take 30 seconds before locking. My Evo was instant even on cold start. Could they have put a cheaper gps radio to save money or could this just be a simple software fix.

I have serious GPS problems with this phone. When I first bought the Evo Shift 4G I thought it was defective hardware so I returned the phone for a replacement. My second Evo Shift 4G shows the same behavior. I don't know how they could have released the phone considering this major shortcoming. I had a Hero before this and its GPS worked pretty well. The Evo Shift 4G takes forever to get a lock, sometimes several minutes. I will not work for me indoors, even if I am on my porch. It is practically useless and I cannot depend on it at all, this makes many many features and applications I have come to love on Android practically useless. You don't realize how valuable location aware apps are until you can't use them I am debating if I should return the phone again and get a samsung epic, or if I should hope that they release a fix for this issues very soon. I don't know if it is something that could be fixed with an update though -- perhaps it is a hardware issues exclusively. I am very bummed because this phone is pretty fantastic otherwise.

sirbrent503 said:
I have serious GPS problems with this phone. When I first bought the Evo Shift 4G I thought it was defective hardware so I returned the phone for a replacement. My second Evo Shift 4G shows the same behavior. I don't know how they could have released the phone considering this major shortcoming. I had a Hero before this and its GPS worked pretty well. The Evo Shift 4G takes forever to get a lock, sometimes several minutes. I will not work for me indoors, even if I am on my porch. It is practically useless and I cannot depend on it at all, this makes many many features and applications I have come to love on Android practically useless. You don't realize how valuable location aware apps are until you can't use them I am debating if I should return the phone again and get a samsung epic, or if I should hope that they release a fix for this issues very soon. I don't know if it is something that could be fixed with an update though -- perhaps it is a hardware issues exclusively. I am very bummed because this phone is pretty fantastic otherwise.
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The GPS on the Epic is fairly broken.

I did another test this morning and the gps would just drop signal for 10 minutes at a time. I would have to get out of Google navigation and go back in to get a lock. If this keeps up, I think I will go back to the EVO. I'll give it the 30 days first though. I love the phone otherwise. I am very dependent on gps and that really is a deal breaker. Maybe if this gets some attention it will get on the front page of a big site and HTC will realize its a problem.

I'm on CM7, so no GPS here .

If you are using Google Nav, it will suck.. using the Tel Nav that came with the phone is better . Maybe its also due to Google Nav since it is still in Beta....

Jjday7 said:
I did another test this morning and the gps would just drop signal for 10 minutes at a time. I would have to get out of Google navigation and go back in to get a lock. If this keeps up, I think I will go back to the EVO. I'll give it the 30 days first though. I love the phone otherwise. I am very dependent on gps and that really is a deal breaker. Maybe if this gets some attention it will get on the front page of a big site and HTC will realize its a problem.
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I'm pretty sure there is already a post here where a sprint tech said he talked to an HTC rep and they knew about the problem and were working on a fix for the first update
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I am hoping that any GPS problems will be worked out soon. I am wanting to upgrade two launch month Pres to EVO Shifts, and one of the main problems with our Pres is the GPS. My Pre constantly requires a restart before the Navigation will work correctly. My girlfriend's Pre has never worked well or consistantly.

Agreed. The GPS on this phone is jacked up. I just got back from a trip to California and the GPS goes in and out...WTF! I was driving through the desert with nothing blocking the signal.
It worked again for about 5-10 mins whenever i restarted the nav program then it goes in and out agian.
The EVO was great however, worked in two seconds.

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State of GPS on this phone ?

What's the state of GPS on this phone in todays date ? Did it ever get fixed to be as accurate as other phones ?
GPS files from a leaked rom has seem to "fix" the GPS problems. Personally, my gps works ten times better than it has before. Look under development for the files. You need to flash it using clockwork.
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I have never seen a lock on mine until I flashed the leaked GPS fix by itself. Then everytime I look I see at least 10 and lock on 5-6 at least.
Same here. GPS was all but useless, even with the original fixes. On a very lucky try I would lock 3 sats, but that was extremely rare. Usually the norm was between 0 and 1 locks with location accuracy being within 1200 meters.
Last week I flashed bionix 1.3, which includes one of the fixes, and now my phone will consistently lock to a minimum of 5 and sometimes up to 9 satellites.
It's still not perfect and my location jumps around a bit, but it is accurate to within 50 feet and this is acceptable for my use.
As far as I know there is still no reliable word on an official fix from Samsung as they are busy releasing all sorts of wonderful new tablets and such.
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As far as I know there is still no reliable word on an official fix from Samsung as they are busy releasing all sorts of wonderful new tablets and such.
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man, samsung looks like they screw up on the software side everytime. This time they did good on default software side (thank god no ridiculous cube), but now gps is borked and they are taking sweet time releasing the gps fix.
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GPS files from a leaked rom has seem to "fix" the GPS problems. Personally, my gps works ten times better than it has before. Look under development for the files. You need to flash it using clockwork.
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i used the same thing. Now maps locks in seconds, navigation work. Great fix!!
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What's the state of GPS on this phone in todays date ? Did it ever get fixed to be as accurate as other phones ?
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Same as everyone else: none of the "fixes" worked for me until I used the JI2 leaked GPS files. I flashed with Clockword Mod and I get fast, accurate (~7 meters, which is good enough) locks.
After flashing JI2 GPS has worked every time. For over 2 weeks now straight .. fixed for me 100%
I tried the I9000 JPK Froyo on my Vibrant and get a GPS lock as soon as I opened the map program. good news is coming for sure.
i'm still running stock everything, and i can lock anywhere between 2-6 satellites when outdoors. indoor reception is very poor
Zero problems here .
Just turned on the gps and have lock in 9 satellites.
Still no fix for mine. I think its just broken but I don't want to Send it back because I'm afraid of a hardware locked vibrant.
After this post, The XDA app probably forced closed from my froyo lacking Vibrant
sorry but what app are you guys using to 'lock' satellites?
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sorry but what app are you guys using to 'lock' satellites?
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An app doesn't "lock" a satellite -- the Vibrant (firmware) does. If you use LBSTestMode, you'll see which satellite signals are locked by the asterisk [*] at the end of the signal strength.
Alternatively, if you use Google Maps or Navigation, when the blue circle disappears, it usually indicates you have accuracy <10m, which is good enough for street navigation. You could consider this an informal "lock."
GPS status
There are also apps in the market that will show you locks and more info. I use 'GPS Status'
I initially applied the JI2 leaked update, followed by JI4. Using the GPSTest app, I was able to see a lock on to at least 6 satellites within 5-6 seconds, eventually going up to 13 satellites, depending on how many were visible at the time of the test. The leaked update definitely fixes the satellite lock and compass issue, although the GPS still experiences some very minor inaccuracies as far as positioning is concerned - nothing that renders it useless, though. As far as the official update is concerned, it sure looks like Samsung will not be able to live up to the promise of a September release.
yup, I Knew Samsung wouldnt fix this in Sept. OTA
Who cares, the leaked Rom/Custom roms with JI2 work just fine.
Id rather have that then a stock Rom anyways from Samsung.
I have not 1 issue with this phone other than samsung is backing it. No issues now GPS has been resolved in JI2. For me, its good enough to get me where I need to go.
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yup, I Knew Samsung wouldnt fix this in Sept. OTA
Who cares, the leaked Rom/Custom roms with JI2 work just fine.
Id rather have that then a stock Rom anyways from Samsung.
I have not 1 issue with this phone other than samsung is backing it. No issues now GPS has been resolved in JI2. For me, its good enough to get me where I need to go.
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Agreed. Other than the occasional lag, the phone is pretty much 99% functional applying the leaked update. The problem definitely lies with Samsung, though. A lot of Samsung's apologists say "be patient, they are working on it, it'll be out soon, blah blah blah". Based on the leaked updates, it's painfully obvious that Samsung is working on it; however, based on an average lifecycle of a phone (2 years, give or take a couple of months), 10% of the Vibrant's life is already over, and still no official update. I'm definitely not one of the "I'm selling my Vibrant and leaving T-Mobile" people, but the stalling of the OTA makes me question Samsung's approach to future updates.
JI2 has made the GPS good enough for me to not ditch an otherwise great phone. I get locks on 6-10 sats at all times as compared to 0-2 before flashing.
I'm not surprised, however, by Samsung's silence regarding this issue. Unless they shock us with a massive push of a fix by Thursday, their reputation in the cell phone world will continue to slide.

GPS STILL wonky?

I am running an unrooted stock vibrant. I got the Ji6 update a few weeks back, and I was told that it would improve my GPS. But apparently my GPS still doesn't work. I know there are alot of tweaks and hacks here on xda that supposedly fix the gps, but id rather wait and get the official fix from samsung. But if the ji6 was it, then im quite dissapointed. Does your stock vibrant still have a wonky GPS? Or did the update fix it for you?
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GPS works great!
I am running Bionix 1.9. Last night on my way home, I was in an unfamiliar area on a small side street and got a little lost. I turned on my GPS and opened up Google Maps. Within two seconds it locked me in and gave me directions home. I noticed the address at the top of the screen where it said I was. I looked over at the house number and street I was on and it was exactly right.
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I am running an unrooted stock vibrant. I got the Ji6 update a few weeks back, and I was told that it would improve my GPS. But apparently my GPS still doesn't work. I know there are alot of tweaks and hacks here on xda that supposedly fix the gps, but id rather wait and get the official fix from samsung. But if the ji6 was it, then im quite dissapointed. Does your stock vibrant still have a wonky GPS? Or did the update fix it for you?
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I've never rooted either, and for me it's still not perfect. Sometimes it works well, but other times the location jumps around, or the phone hangs and has to be rebooted.
I've seen an improvement since the JI6 update, but my experience is if you use it enough you will encounter flakiness still.
Would be nice if subsequent updates improve things, but right now that's just a hope.
Yes I had a similar experience, with my stock vibrant which has the j16 update. Took over 5 mins to lock on to the gps signal.
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What kind of GPS fixes did you do? Or did you just flash the bionix rom? Sorry im new to the whole hacking scene. If the GPS really works as well as you said, I might just consider rooting then..
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I am running an unrooted stock vibrant. I got the Ji6 update a few weeks back, and I was told that it would improve my GPS. But apparently my GPS still doesn't work. I know there are alot of tweaks and hacks here on xda that supposedly fix the gps, but id rather wait and get the official fix from samsung. But if the ji6 was it, then im quite dissapointed. Does your stock vibrant still have a wonky GPS? Or did the update fix it for you?
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I believe it's just plain bad hardware, and it's not competitive with most other current smartphones.
I've tried a bunch of ROMs, with similar results. The update gives you a faster lock and an accurate report on the number of satellites, which is nice, but it doesn't do anything for the core accuracy problems which plague the device and cause tracks/navigation issues. It doesn't help that the compass is also still very wonky, which causes Google Navigation to flake out when I'm stopped at a light.
All in all, it's very disappointing. I'm thinking of switching to the Nexus One due to this issue.
I've got an unrooted Vibrant bought in July 2010 whose GPS rarely worked and almost never locked on any satellites. After J16 I get a quick lock on 6-9 out of 11-12 satellites. I am satisfied with it now 99% of time for navigation purposes. I do sometimes get wandering of the target from Google Earth even when standing still.
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I believe it's just plain bad hardware, and it's not competitive with most other current smartphones.
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I'm not so sure about that. I hooked it up to my bluetooth GPS and it looked good for a little while, maybe a few minutes, when sitting at my desk. Then it started going wacky, progressively bouncing the pointer farther and farther from the real position. It might be the software that's bad. I'm going to experiment with it tomorrow on a long trip and try various settings.
Its a hardware problem..
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I believe it's just plain bad hardware, and it's not competitive with most other current smartphones.
I've tried a bunch of ROMs, with similar results. The update gives you a faster lock and an accurate report on the number of satellites, which is nice, but it doesn't do anything for the core accuracy problems which plague the device and cause tracks/navigation issues. It doesn't help that the compass is also still very wonky, which causes Google Navigation to flake out when I'm stopped at a light.
All in all, it's very disappointing. I'm thinking of switching to the Nexus One due to this issue.
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I have to agree. I had the built in car navigation and the vibrant side by side. The vibrant is 200 yards behind while moving. Even when pointing on the current location, it is wondering around the neighborhood on a 200 yard range.
So what's your explanation for what I see with an external GPS which works fine with a laptop? That a phone hardware problem too?
As far as using the internal I've seen it work for an hour fine and then start flippin out. Then again I've seen it flip out in 5-10 minutes.
Gps is one of those things I rarely think about until I have to actually use it. I just came from a week trip to Atlanta and it connected once during my week stay. The GPS on this phone is crap, I feel bad for anyone that has to use it daily. Luckily I got 3g there and was using google maps to help me find locations. My recent devices Milestone and HD2 connected within seconds. This thing is always searching for a signal with a clear view to the sky.
Im in North Florida if that means anything.
i ran bionix final which i think is the ota ji6, not the kies leak ji6 and the gps didn't work well. but the ji2 gps flash worked great, and the ji6 gps in bionix fusion works great.
you are posting on xda, if you just want to complain go to tmonews or something, otherwise there are a lot of easy fixes that are like 5 clicks away...
GPS works fine for me on JI6, however there seems to be a communications error between certain Google apps and the GPS. I use CoPilot. On Bionix Final my GPS went from good, to ok, to bad, to horrific in a matter of days.
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GPS works fine for me on JI6, however there seems to be a communications error between certain Google apps and the GPS. I use CoPilot. On Bionix Final my GPS went from good, to ok, to bad, to horrific in a matter of days.
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I've seen some issues with Google Nav as well. Did some Googling and it's not just the Galaxy S or Samsnug phones. Many users with different brands and models have reported recent problems with the Nav and Map apps.
Very wonky
Here's a may I did yesterday. All was good fo awhile until I stopped for a turn and it went ape [email protected]*#.
http://maps.google.com/maps/ms?msa=0&msid=201142930973527917117.0004944eca8f57406c83e
I can assure you that at no time did I ever go 118 mph. This is just one sample. It does it all the time. I've tried every different firmware I can load including stock and I get the same results. I've tried all of the GPS fixes and nothing. Some days it never even locks. I'm convinced that it is a hardware issue.
GPS works for me most of the time. Sometimes it will show I'm in my house. Sometimes my neighbors. Sometimes down the street. A few times across the city.
I wish it was half as good as the wifi. This thing can pull in an access point like it had a high gain directional antenna built in.
I'm even more convinced it's the software. Now my external GPS won't lock either. Sees 12 sats, I can see the data coming in, but it never locks any sat.

Give give up on the GPS working right!

I mean WTF is it going to take for my GPS to work right? Tried every freaking tip, trick and app avail. Still takes forever to find my location. I dont live in a freaking cave or a valcano! Trying to get this to work is like trying to find the cure for cancer. I give up >:-(
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I mean WTF is it going to take for my GPS to work right? Tried every freaking tip, trick and app avail. Still takes forever to find my location. I dont live in a freaking cave or a valcano! Trying to get this to work is like trying to find the cure for cancer. I give up >:-(
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The Company has even supplied a fix. What does it do? Reset everything back to default. From Samsung itself:
"During online surveillance, there is an abundance of GPS tweaks that impair GPS performance. Often times, no backup is performed to restore values prior to modifications. Samsung has released an application that restores GPS settings to recommended factory defaults for optimum performance."
http://ow.ly/3hEM1
You are not alone op. The GPS on this phone is broken and after taking it apart numerous times and applying every fix known the GPS barely works with a horrible accuracy and then stops working completely after a day or so. Sure, if I do a cold reset I can get it working again for a bit but again the accuracy is so bad it can't be used for navigation in any area with more than one road. You will get some confusing reviews on here from some people in the midwest using there navigation 20 miles from the nearest road or building taller than 2 stories but for those of us that don't have a 360 degree line of sight to the sky are pretty much screwed.
I used GPS on my 4 year old blackberry daily and I can't believe I am debating going back to it.
The GPS on this phone is broken! It is a hardware issue and is not going to be fixed on this forum. Samsung is unable to fix this issue without a recall and don't kid yourself...they are not going to do that.
Recall is such a cute word, consumers like to throw it around when they have a problem... if you think the phone is going to be recalled you've got another thing coming. "recalled" LOL
It sure is a hardware issue. My G1 if left on the flooboard of my car behaves exactly like my S with a clear satellite view. This GPS radio has a poor signal/noise ratio that no software can fix. QA missed this one.
I picked up a HTC G2 yesterday. I ran gps status on it. The gps had never been used before and it locked 9 sat's in less than 5 sec's for 9ft of accuracy. I knew my vibrant wasn't the greatest gps device, but I didnt know it was that bad. on the bright side, I never had any real navigation issues with the vibrant, so it still served a purpose. I understand some people have real lemon gps units, so I guess im lucky.
Mine gets a gps lock as soon as maps gets open and gps was turned off so that was just with cell networks finding me, turn on the gps and boom 9m accuracy, and samsung will not recall these for it.
^ mine too... I really do not understand all of these GPS threads....
well, actually I do.. darkside makes most of them.
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^ mine too... I really do not understand all of these GPS threads....
well, actually I do.. darkside makes most of them.
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Maybe if you had one like I do you would understand.. Makes you want to rip your hair out when some ppl have great gps and you look at yours and say pos
GPS works perfect for me right out of the box, since I bought it, only takes about 5-10 seconds to get a lock, even in bad weather. I also live in the south though which makes me closer to the satelites, so I take it the people with issues live up north?
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GPS works perfect for me right out of the box, since I bought it, only takes about 5-10 seconds to get a lock, even in bad weather. I also live in the south though which makes me closer to the satelites, so I take it the people with issues live up north?
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Locks are one thing, Accuracy is another. Look at this map. Zoom in on it. It rarely has me driving on the road. I even took a train track for a little distance.
http://maps.google.com/maps/ms?msa=0&msid=201142930973527917117.0004965a1c506459779a6
When I first got the phone the GPS sorta worked, after JI6 it worked better but not the greatest. Now I've reverted back to Stock JFD and have used GPS in many situations, even used it to drive 1.5hrs to the Cities with Navigation, never lost signal, was dead on (except starting out because I didn't follow it until I got onto the highway) and on my way home I used it too, no loss of signal or anything.
I've used it to check in on FS and have no problems finding my location.
I got my phone maybe a after it was released? Just saying..
My Fascinate takes anywhere from 10-20 minutes to get going. If I don't gave a general sense of direction when starting my trip, I must wait.
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Thanks Lodingi...now I can add the fascinate to the list of phones I won't be buying when I dump this one.
To those of you who can't seem to find anything wrong with the GPS try using it in any densly populated area. Even the mightiest of the GPS fanboys on here aren't getting any better than about 100 feet of accuracy. 100 feet of accuracy is crap and makes the GPS totally unreliable for the majority of the US population that live in dense areas.
Minneapolis/St. Paul is "Heavily Dense" population. I picked up a signal that was dead on in a few seconds.
Lol sure you did. What software were you using and how many feet accuracy? chirp...chirp...
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Lol sure you did. What software were you using and how many feet accuracy? chirp...chirp...
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Wow, you're a little prick aren't you?
I'm using Stock JFD, with GPS/Use Wireless networks checked. Navigation/Maps locks on with in a few seconds.
does it piss you off that it works on my phone and not yours or what?
Just tested accuracy INSIDE my office, connected to 6-10 sats and within 150FT This is inside.
Do you know what use wireless networks checked even means? You also failed to answer the how many feet question. You can keep calling me names but it doesn't mean your gps is working.
I am not the emotional one here.
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Do you know what use wireless networks checked even means? .
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Yes I do , It uses the Wireless Networks/Towers to Triangulate your location.
@samsungservice told me to do a factory format reset which actually wipes the phone clean...
After the factory format, my phone lag is gone.
GPS is once again locking within 10 seconds, however now when I come to a stop in the car, GPS wonders 100's of yards off causing the MAPS to recalculate the route which totally screws you when you lost.
I also ran run GPSrestrore app which didn't fix the wondering issue.
This GPS issue really bites. STILL

Nexus S and Satellite Navigation / Google Navigation

I'm interested to know everyone's experiences of navigation on the Nexus S.
My experiences are that Google Navigation on the Nexus ONE was faultless. On the Nexus S though I have the following issues:
Weak GPS lock. Either loses satellites completely or not accurate enough at busy junctions where the device may put me on the wrong road, exit etc.
Secondly, the Navigation app freezes completely regularly enough to be a pain.
Third, the GPS fix seems to be impaired when the phone is in a cradle (powered).
This is a real deal breaker for me as I do travel for work and don't want to revert to Tomtom.
So, is this the general experience? Or is my device faulty?
Thanks in advance.
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I'm interested to know everyone's experiences of navigation on the Nexus S.
My experiences are that Google Navigation on the Nexus ONE was faultless. On the Nexus S though I have the following issues:
Weak GPS lock. Either loses satellites completely or not accurate enough at busy junctions where the device may put me on the wrong road, exit etc.
Secondly, the Navigation app freezes completely regularly enough to be a pain.
Third, the GPS fix seems to be impaired when the phone is in a cradle (powered).
This is a real deal breaker for me as I do travel for work and don't want to revert to Tomtom.
So, is this the general experience? Or is my device faulty?
Thanks in advance.
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i have had some ****ty experience with the S.... HOWEVER... after this 2.3.3 i am seeing much better/faster GPS lock, and it is on par with the GPS from my old Nexus One... i am even able to get a stable GPS lock indoor at floor 4 in a 6 story building... so i am very impressed with the 2.3.3 update.
veggiop said:
I'm interested to know everyone's experiences of navigation on the Nexus S.
My experiences are that Google Navigation on the Nexus ONE was faultless. On the Nexus S though I have the following issues:
Weak GPS lock. Either loses satellites completely or not accurate enough at busy junctions where the device may put me on the wrong road, exit etc.
Secondly, the Navigation app freezes completely regularly enough to be a pain.
Third, the GPS fix seems to be impaired when the phone is in a cradle (powered).
This is a real deal breaker for me as I do travel for work and don't want to revert to Tomtom.
So, is this the general experience? Or is my device faulty?
Thanks in advance.
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Same for me. I have not updated to 2.3.3 so i can't tell if the issue has improved.
I have used the nav about 7-8 times and its been perfect for me with no faults. I'm in south Florida. Not sure if my location matters
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I've been using Navigation while mounted in my car every day since launch day. It has never frozen up and has dropped the sat lock maybe twice.
There were a few days where it could not download a route for any destination, but I was flashing CM7 Nightlies + gapps on a daily basis without wiping. A wipe before the next flash fixed it.
Otherwise flawless.
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I have used the nav about 7-8 times and its been perfect for me with no faults. I'm in south Florida. Not sure if my location matters
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Same here except I'm in central FL. I've used CM alpha builds and currently using Gcollab builds. Never had an issue. Once it's locked, it's locked.
I've always used navigation on my nexus one and when I used with the S I was disappointed. It use to took even 10 mins to get a gps lock if I got one at all.
But after 2.3.3 update everything turned around, now I get a full lock with 10 sats in seconds and the navigation it's smooths and flawless.
Aside the weird colors, there's not one bad change after I updated to 2.3.3
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I constantly use my Google Navigate in Anchorage, Alaska and so far it has been nothing short of perfect. Although, any city in Alaska is probably way more simple than a larger city in the lower US.
However, there was one time it told me to take a right turn onto a one-way street, and then it proceeded to tell me to go in circles and my destination will be on the left. Weird.
Only happened once, never happened again.
GPS locks happen incredibly quickly, and I have never lost a lock.
Using CM7 RC1.
I had same GPS issues. I haven't really used much on 2.3.3 yet but it does seems a little better.
I've found the Nexus S to be quite slow to get a GPS lock.
I sat the Nexus S side by side with my old HTC Hero near a window and the Hero got a lock quickly and Nexus S didn't get one at all.
Tried the Nexus S in the car today and it did get a lock but slowly.
Running Stock 2.3.3 Rooted
I use nav almost every weekday and on the days I use it, I use it a lot. Getting a lock on isnt typically an issue. Sometimes it lags, usually it seems like its fast enough. My biggest gripe is that the onscreen position usually lags around 30-50ft behind my actual position on the road.
Also, this doesnt happen often (but regularly enough to be irritating) I will be driving on a route and all of a sudden the navi will think my position is on some other road and will re-route me. Very annoying!!!
My N1 had perfect nav. What sucked about it was the screen was not big enough, too dim and generally sluggish when moving maps around. The NS corrects all those things but now the nav is kinda sucky
7/8 visible satellites locked, indoors, with 10m accuracy, with wifi off in less than 15 seconds here just now. This was with the GPS Status app. I did notice it downloaded almanac data over 3G as soon as I started it up, so that's a bit of an assist for a lock from just a cold start.
GPS never been much of an issue on the Nexus S for me. The Galaxy S i9000 and Vibrant, that's another story.
I also have never had a problem with the GPS. I use it regularly for work and have never encountered any of the things mentioned. Could be an area issue?
I wish it was an area issue... but never had a problem with my N1
My Nexus S running the 2.3.3 OS takes very long to get a GPS lock, and at times I would reach my destination before it even get a fix.
I wonder if my phone is at fault here or some kind of bug.
I am thinking of calling the tech support to see if they can offer some help.
mine works immediately as i turn on the car, in all kind of nasty weather
99.999999999% accurate
Wonder if getting a Bluetooth GPS reciever would help
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Using a Nexus S with Android 2.3.3:
my GPS does get a fix but loses the fix quite often! Compared to my old htc tattoo phone, the gps on my nexus s is not working well.
While navigating in my car, the htc never loses the gps fix while the gps of my nexus goes on and off... :-( The weird thing is that both phones have almost identical signal-to-noise ratios (per satellite) but the nexus simply does not get a fix while the htc has no problems...
I have to say, I am really disappointed regarding the gps performance of the nexus s!
sorry to hear that guys,
maybe I'm a bit more lucky in this but I'm very happy with the navigation on my SNS.
I have recently upgraded my i9020 to 2.3.3 stock rom (was running stock 2.3.1 also without any problems) and my navigation works perfect. I'm even surprised about the accuracy of this device. This one brings me up to a few meters accurate to required destination. I didn't belive this myself as phone nav cannot realy compare with the "real" TomTom's or Garmins.
Actually, the whole phone works perfect (wifi and 3G as wel) and hopefully I will keep it this way.
greetz
BTW. Since GPS problems on my previous phone (i5800 Galaxy3) I use a GPS Booster Lite from Octy. Maybe this is the trick. I'd say, try it, dosn't cost anything.
Nexus S 2.3.2 here
Whenever I enter downtown Houston, my nav completely fails, no GPS, nada
and it's terribly frustrating because I hate navigating downtown Houston
I may just go 2.3.3 to see if it's better... won't hold my breath

So does your GPS work?

Mine works with S.GPS fix and with Darkys rom
It is also made after OCT 2010
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Mine works with S.GPS fix / with Darkys rom
It is made on JUN 2010
The GPS always "worked", it's the matter of how "well" it works. Drifting all over the place at red light and have accuracy > 50 meters is not considered working well.
I am also using Darky's rom, and my gps is spot on. It pinpoints me in my house. on navigation, it is alway right there. mine was made june 2010
Mine works after the hardware fix with solder. Before that it was unusable. Now it "works" as well as the software allows. With Bionix V 1.3.1 and Jellete's patch it usually locks within 20 seconds, but accuracy varies greatly. Sometimes its flawless, sometimes its unusable.
If you are having problems, use Heathen GPS fix, Masters GPS fix or download the app GPS Aids from the market. they will resolve your gps issue (one will) OR just get a decent rom that has it in it already like the Trigger or Axura
I have had two Vibrants. I've tried every fix out there while the fixes improve the GPS nothing truly fixes the GPS. I've tried the Hardware fix (bending the antenna) and all sorts of software and setting fixes. Currently with my new vibrant is better with the hardware fix, darky's rom and Jellett's GPS fix, but is it close to my G1 or G2? No, there is no comparison.
As an earlier poster said and I agree, the GPS is not broken but it barely works, it loses signal and does not pin point your location is a respectable time.
GPS with this phone is a C- at best.
Mannymal said:
Mine works after the hardware fix with solder. Before that it was unusable. Now it "works" as well as the software allows. With Bionix V 1.3.1 and Jellete's patch it usually locks within 20 seconds, but accuracy varies greatly. Sometimes its flawless, sometimes its unusable.
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if that is the case then IMO, it's unusable or defective. GPS should be reliable all the time, well as long as it can see the satellites. If the phone dropped calls or failed to sent txts at much as the GPS gave issue would you still have the phone?
I really like my Vibrant, but GPS is useable but that is all. My HTC phones gps would locate me within a 5 foot radius as I took a walk. I don't think the Samsung gps ts capable of that. The Vibrant GPS has never shown better than 18 feet accuracy and it comes and goes as you move.
Much to my surprise, no it doesn't. I tried flashing the s.gps fix but its still useless. I'm running trigger 2.8 with its recommended trigger kernel and both are supposed to improve the gps not screw it up, what's wrong!
Btw, it was functional before so its nit a hardware problem.
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Not before the hardware fix. Now it works wonderfully. Quick locks, good accuracy, no drifting. My combo is Bionix 1.3.1 with Heathens GPS fix and the hardware fix.
I have tried everything to get this phone gps to work. And when I say work I mean work like a normal gps ie.. less then 15 foot accuracy lock in 10 sec hot start everytime and no wondering at all. On top of a parking garage at work with a 360 horizon view and no clouds at all I can get 8 says to "lock" but it shows the blue circle 50+ feet away from my actual position and the center of the circle 70+ feet away. The gps on my phone has never worked and I have done every fix out there including hardware, which I thought fixed it bit then found out it did not. Right now I am hoping that the t-mobile gx2 wont have these issues as that will likely be my next phone. So those of you that think your gps os fixed let's see some "my tracks" in comparison to a known working phone like the nexus one, my other phone that blows the galaxy out of the water on gps. I am betting that you will see that it really doesn't work at all.
Abu-7abash said:
Much to my surprise, no it doesn't. I tried flashing the s.gps fix but its still useless. I'm running trigger 2.8 with its recommended trigger kernel and both are supposed to improve the gps not screw it up, what's wrong!
Btw, it was functional before so its nit a hardware problem.
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Maybe yours has a hardware issue. I run Tigger 2.8 with os kernel. My gps is not great but it is usable and serviceable.
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I have tried everything to get this phone gps to work. And when I say work I mean work like a normal gps ie.. less then 15 foot accuracy lock in 10 sec hot start everytime and no wondering at all. On top of a parking garage at work with a 360 horizon view and no clouds at all I can get 8 says to "lock" but it shows the blue circle 50+ feet away from my actual position and the center of the circle 70+ feet away. The gps on my phone has never worked and I have done every fix out there including hardware, which I thought fixed it bit then found out it did not. Right now I am hoping that the t-mobile gx2 wont have these issues as that will likely be my next phone. So those of you that think your gps os fixed let's see some "my tracks" in comparison to a known working phone like the nexus one, my other phone that blows the galaxy out of the water on gps. I am betting that you will see that it really doesn't work at all.
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Ask for a replacement. The GPS on my phone was crap, would lock on after a few minutes then lose position, could see 12 birds in the sky but won't lock on any one of them, and if it did work I would magically fly through houses and roads when I was driving my car. I got a replacement and it works flawlessly out of the box. Locks on within 30 seconds, accuracy depending where I am is anywhere from 10 meters to 4 meters. It has a few hiccups but I attribute that to where I live. Only problem now is that the GPS fixes in Bionix 1.3.1 kills my GPS. I am unsure why.
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Maybe yours has a hardware issue. I run Tigger 2.8 with os kernel. My gps is not great but it is usable and serviceable.
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The thing is, it was working fine before on stock. Not great but functionable while now its useless.
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Abu-7abash said:
The thing is, it was working fine before on stock. Not great but functionable while now its useless.
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Have you tried any of the fixes by the devs?
My GPS works like Sprint's network. Many claim its great, but it kinda works and it really sucks.
I don't have a problem with it locking when I'm stationary. The problem comes when I'm driving. GPS loses lock easily and jumps around. This leads to unnecessary reroutes and general confusion. It's borderline unusable in unfamiliar areas where you actually need the GPS help because of the random reroutes. The fact Samsung gets away with this kind of product defect is a reflection of current govt incompetence/corruption.
Mine works perfect with Trigger.
Spoke w/ Tmo rep, they said to download "GPS Restore" (a samsung app) from the market to fix gps issues. Don't know if anyone else has tried this but I have and it actually helps a lottt.

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