ORiginal desire got the ability to record 720p videos . Even iPhone 3gs which was able to record vga video was able to record in 720p after a work around.will it be possible on desire HD to record full hd 1080p videos with any kind of work around
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I'm not a techie but 720p usually means 1280 by 720 pixels where 1080p means 1920 by 1080 pixels. It's quite a jump between those values and even with a workaround that quality could be poop
the sensor won't be better with any change
It will just use more space from the sdcard
The sensor is capable of recording 1080p, but the processor is not capable of encoding in full hd. So no - it's not possible.
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the sensor won't be better with any change
It will just use more space from the sdcard
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i agree, the sensor is the same size so the image will just be stretched and more space used for the same image quality
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i agree, the sensor is the same size so the image will just be stretched and more space used for the same image quality
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Nope, if the processor was capable of encoding 1080p, the video won't be just an upsampled version of the 720p video. It would be a true 1080. It's not the sensor alone that's responsible for the video quality - there are the lenses and the hardware encoding. And these (especialy the lenses) have the negative impact on our video recording IMO.
If not full HD then least some workaround to improve the current state. Audio really suck and video I dark most of the times. Really disappointed with the video quality on desire HD
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Htc have always had ****ty cameras. If you wanted a camera phone the dhd isn't the best option.
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Someone Swyped my idea.
to be able to record in 1080p would be great enhance but I bet changing from stock sd card is required it seems. class to won't do good with 1080p recording. correct me if I'm wrong
I wouldn't have thought a Class 2 card would anywhere near fast enough for full HD.
would you really notice the difference from 720p to 1080p if shot through the same lens?
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would you really notice the difference from 720p to 1080p if shot through the same lens?
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Not with these lenses
the lens is capable enough to record 1080p,its the processor issue,because the new galaxy s2 has 8mpixel camera aswell and is capable of recording in full hd 1080p,so i was wondering,if i overclock my cpu to 1.2ghz,which i already done,will there be a solution?
serro90 said:
the lens is capable enough to record 1080p,its the processor issue,because the new galaxy s2 has 8mpixel camera aswell and is capable of recording in full hd 1080p,so i was wondering,if i overclock my cpu to 1.2ghz,which i already done,will there be a solution?
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Galaxy S2 has a dual core CPU.
We would need that, if we ever manage to capture in 1080p it would just be a slideshow because the CPU cant keep up.
A bit late to this party, the last post was about six months old.
*Puts thread back to sleep"
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Not used to making video's as all my previous phones
Universal,Hermes,TytnII,Raphael,Touch HD didn't make them too well.
So just tried out making video's while driving (as a passenger) and
they look stunningly good. There's lot's of sun/cloud changes
and it picks up beautifully.
Frame rate is above 20FPS average in MPEG 640x480. Nice.
EDIT : from comments below I see most people expect more. For once I'm on the satisfied side
What .. it too can't play 640x480 flawlessly ? I saw some benchmarks which played such videos at 200%.
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What .. it too can't play 640x480 flawlessly ? I saw some benchmarks which played such videos at 200%.
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Did you read his comment???? where does it say it cant play 640x480
A sample recording would be nice
Smooth playback is 24 fps and beyond. if it's between 20-24, it sucks.
It's the recording rate in 640x480 not the playback speed.
It will almost always keep the 23.99 frames per second while recording
So I meant to say, it's a great video recorder.
I think the title of this thread is a little bit naive!
C'mon 640 x 480 has been on most high end phones now since 2006!
We now have alot of phones with 640 x 480, a fair few with 720 x 480 (D1?) and one or two with 720p recording.
The hardware in this phone is capable of 720p as is that of the Palm Pre, Iphone 3GS and probably others too.
So, in summary - I dont see 640 x 480 as amazingly good at all!
On the topic, do any devs think it would be possible to up the recording to it's 720p capabilities?
See above. I accidently posted twice.
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The hardware in this phone is capable of 720p
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Qualcomm advertises Snapdragon (rather over-optimistically in my opinion) as being capable of 720p video playback - where do they say it's capable of 720p capture?
My bad !
I did not notice he talks about RECORDING, I thought he talks about playback.
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Frame rate is above 20FPS average in MPEG 640x480. Nice.
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So video quality is "surprisingly mediocre", then. Is there any non-HTC smartphone in the world that can't manage at least 30fps at VGA resolution? The Samsung i8910HD can almost manage 24fps at a resolution of 1280x720. If the HD2 could better that, then maybe you could describe it as "amazingly good".
The Snapdragon probably should be able to record in 720P from a hardware point of view. My currrent phone, the i8910, records in 720P at around 22-24fps, and its only packing a 600mhz Cortex 8 CPU.
So i went to the registry and messed with some values a bit. I set the bitrate much higher than the default. It would still capture video @ about 25 fps. Can't really tell the difference in quality, but the filesize has increased by a 100%. I'll try to see if there are more reg settings to mess around.
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The Snapdragon probably should be able to record in 720P from a hardware point of view. My currrent phone, the i8910, records in 720P at around 22-24fps, and its only packing a 600mhz Cortex 8 CPU.
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There's a lot more to it than CPU power, I think - it's a bandwidth issue rather than MIPS. I wouldn't be surprised if Windows Mobile imposes some limitations too.
i remember that the nexus one could do 720... is it possible to do that with the hd2...
Well Im sure if it can be done it will, but as it stands that's seen as a luxury (720p) and not really a necessity. We still need fully functional camcorder..
Here's to hoping though!
The hardware is there, we just need a little help from developers.
Hmmm more to HD than resolution methinks
While I'm all for our devices doing more and unlocking their full potential, have you actually seen sample nexus one "720p" videos? It looks like badly upscaled 480p video (which in reality it probably is...). For me, 720p recording and playback ain't that big a deal when the gain in quality is so minimal in terms of the larger files. But I could totally go for some 720p video playback if for nothing more than bragging rights
If you think 720 resolution is going to dramatically improve video quality then you are mistaken. You will just have a larger version of the same video. The quality really hinges on the lens and our lens is not the best.
Hi,
we can take photos in 3.2 megapixel, so why we can not record video in this resolution or in 1megapixel resolution?
this 3 steps maybe can work
3 easy steps
- if reason is weak processor speed? overlock it
- if reason is low ram? extend it with microSD card and apply SD-Booster
- custom recording app with modified recording resolution. or only change /data/local.prop (but not work for most phones)
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what a breaktrough!!! xD if it were that simple we would have 720p recording by now
ya.. it s possible.. but it just damn hard.. may b it needs to rewrite the vid rec driver.. :/
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erikkubica said:
Hi,
we can take photos in 3.2 megapixel, so why we can not record video in this resolution or in 1megapixel resolution?
this 3 steps maybe can work
3 easy steps
- if reason is weak processor speed? overlock it
- if reason is low ram? extend it with microSD card and apply SD-Booster
- custom recording app with modified recording resolution. or only change /data/local.prop (but not work for most phones)
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"extend it with microSD card and apply SD-Booster" ? ? ?
Really?
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"extend it with microSD card and apply SD-Booster" ? ? ?
Really?
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i think he meant swap partition..
Ever thought about this:
- sensor not good enought to record 60 (or even 30/15) Photos with 3,2 MP in one second
Every other camera also needs to lower the resolution when recording video. Thats not a question of processor speed or RAM.
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Every other camera also needs to lower the resolution when recording video. Thats not a question of processor speed or RAM.
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So...
what about this:
Apple Ipod Touch 4G
Camera
Photo: 0.7MP (960 x 720), It's VGA!
Video recording:720p 30fps, it's HD!
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So...
what about this:
Apple Ipod Touch 4G
Camera
Photo: 0.7MP (960 x 720), It's VGA!
Video recording:720p 30fps, it's HD!
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everything depends on the sensor......ours can handle higher res recording
but drivers need to be edited...
im trying to get a kernel with higher res but the drivers are tough and i have no
c++ experience...
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"extend it with microSD card and apply SD-Booster" ? ? ?
Really?
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Copied from android market:
SD-Booster speeds up your SD-Card (external memory-card) up to 40 times! Enjoy a new feeling of speed on your Android smartphone anytime and everywhere you are.
Starting apps, listing to your favorite music or just swapping data with your PC ? Whatever you do, the SD-Booster improve your phone speed!
SD-Booster needs root permission to run, otherwise SD-Booster can't do anything!
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I dont know this is really working but....
rueolps said:
- sensor not good enought to record 60 (or even 30/15) Photos with 3,2 MP in one second
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So try to record your PC desktop with 30fps in resolution 1280x1024 with PATA/ATA HDD and 2GHz processor (1 core) if your HDD is low it cannot save 30 images(frames) per second to your HDD without lag.
If processor is low for rendering 30 frames frames in 1280x1024 resolution into video file and if HDD is too slow to write it, it is Fail. so if in our mobile is possible to speed up read/write speed of sd card and is possible to overlock cpu from 667MHz to 1300MHz, increase the ram using swap, so hardware side is done.
I think it is possible to change /or create custom\ driver for camera and customize recording resolution to our phone.
Sensor is one, If it can capture photo in 3.2MP it can also capture 25 photos/frames\ per second in 3.2MP and render it into video file without lags.
But I think 3.2MP is too much for our devices hardware. So 720pixel is enough to record a pretty nice video.
im trying to get a kernel with higher res but the drivers are tough and i have no
c++ experience..
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I am only php developer so I cant help you in this :-\
you are talking about filmin a video in 3.2 megapixel?!?!? are you out of your mind? Good cameras and high end phones take video in 1080p - that is 1920x1080=2megapixels. You think our little phone can do better? Its not only about RAM, CPU, the drivers need to be reworked but there are always hardware limitations that can not be changed. I'll bet all my money that there is no possible way to get even 720p video with our phone. If we get vga (640x480) recording we can be very happy. That is really hard to do, it may even be impossible since that is 4 times the current quality and it probably takes 4 times more power from memory, CPU, GPU, RAM and 4 months of making new drivers.
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you are talking about filmin a video in 3.2 megapixel?!?!? are you out of your mind? Good cameras and high end phones take video in 1080p - that is 1920x1080=2megapixels. You think our little phone can do better? Its not only about RAM, CPU, the drivers need to be reworked but there are always hardware limitations that can not be changed. I'll bet all my money that there is no possible way to get even 720p video with our phone. If we get vga (640x480) recording we can be very happy. That is really hard to do, it may even be impossible since that is 4 times the current quality and it probably takes 4 times more power from memory, CPU, GPU, RAM and 4 months of making new drivers.
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not in 3.2 in 720pixel
This theory could work, but I think we need a driver re-write. Not only that, but can our GPU even display 720p +?
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not in 3.2 in 720pixel
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Someone was arguing about video in 3.2mp. Anyway, we can't even play 720p video without stutering, so recording is impossible. VGA could be possible however, lg p500 has vga recording with 600mhz CPU and better GPU, if we can get the CPU to do more job than GPU there is a chance. Unless the sensor just can't take it, then we are stuck.
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Someone was arguing about video in 3.2mp. Anyway, we can't even play 720p video without stutering, so recording is impossible. VGA could be possible however, lg p500 has vga recording with 600mhz CPU and better GPU, if we can get the CPU to do more job than GPU there is a chance. Unless the sensor just can't take it, then we are stuck.
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we should be aiming for about 720x480 or close......
its a good res and our gpu should be able to handle it!
i can smoothly play dvd rips on mine without lag or anything at stock speed..
sensor shouldnt be a prob we just need a guy who is good with c++ knowledge
or driver writing experience....anyone?? if u need help with kernel i have successfully compiled a kernel from source and have all the necesary tools
It would be good if we were able to record in aac audio quality,and not like now - in amr.
What will give to us higher resolution if audio is horrible ?
GT-I5800 (Galaxy 3) Video Recording: increase please
Hello at all,
i use the DutchMods ROM V5.3 on my Galaxy 3. In my opinion it's a perfect firmware... but there is a thing: poor camera (Photo and Video). It don't change change from Samsung Stock one. Video has 320x240... a very poor resolution. I think there is some possibilities to increase the resolution to 640x480 (15 fps). The solution can be a post elaboration. When you save the video, the apk Interlace the photo or video. In this way you can have 640x480 video and more high megapixel in photo. The are very good routines for interlace (for example in N70 Nokia there was a program who shot 4 photos and build an high resolution photo using 4 low res photo). The same with video : 320x240 can be 640x480 video with less number of frames. It's a suggest for all custom firmwares.
Thank you at all.
Bye.
Jean-Luke
Talking is useless guys..
This is intended for Froyo
Records at 1920X1080 2mp
but video players decode it to a lower rate
unreal3000 said:
we just need a guy who is good with c++ knowledge
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of course , this is DAMN C++
erikkubica said:
if reason is low ram? extend it
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ARE YOU KIDDING ?
"I can see that SDbooster or whatever, even if it converts the r/w speed to 1TBps, its not to be used as a ram
SD card is a removable media, "if it can hold apps moved from the phone memory, IT IS MOVING. same for data and everything.."
but by no means it can be used as "Random Access Memory"
RAM is directly connected to the phone and it is permanent. Thats all a person can explain"
BTW, reason is the SCREEN RESOLUTION and LENS
rueolps said:
Ever thought about this:
- sensor not good enought to record 60 (or even 30/15) Photos with 3,2 MP in one second
Every other camera also needs to lower the resolution when recording video. Thats not a question of processor speed or RAM.
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I don't think that is a problem cause 25 FPS is enough right!!
Do you typically record 720p or 1080p video? I use 720p because the files are smaller and I own a 720p tv. I wondered if 720p might offer better quality in low light conditions because it can average over more pixels in the sensor?
Also if the phone cpu is working too hard at 1080p does it reduce quality by upping compression and increasing lossyness?
Or is 1080p substantially better choice with the only downside being bigger files?
Generally I've found video IQ to be some what independent of resolution (on other devices) because compression generally goes up with resolution negating a lot of the benefits.
Thoughts?
Im using 720p cos it seems to me more clear and more smooth playing...plus less zoom.....
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So 720p plays back smoother? Just on the phone screen or over hdmi?
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Do you typically record 720p or 1080p video? I use 720p because the files are smaller and I own a 720p tv. I wondered if 720p might offer better quality in low light conditions because it can average over more pixels in the sensor?
Also if the phone cpu is working too hard at 1080p does it reduce quality by upping compression and increasing lossyness?
Or is 1080p substantially better choice with the only downside being bigger files?
Generally I've found video IQ to be some what independent of resolution (on other devices) because compression generally goes up with resolution negating a lot of the benefits.
Thoughts?
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You are right, due to the binning would select the less noisier pixels and thus, the 720p video quality [except for resolution ofc ] would be much better.
I prefer 720p mode, only because of the field of view, it's just too narrow angle in 1080 mode.
Suppose it could come in handy if wanting to shoot something more distant but for indoor work it's not wide enough.
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For me only 720p, because in 1080p I get a thin, purple line over the image that's also recorded into the vid, making my 1080 mode effectively broken.
I always thought 1080 as higher quality than 720p. Maybe for mobile this is different? Any source or test for this?
I'll try and shoot some comparison footage tomorrow.
Not sure if YouTube's compression will make the difference impossible to tell though.
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I always thought 1080 as higher quality than 720p. Maybe for mobile this is different? Any source or test for this?
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This is a totally different matter. Yes, 1080 pixels are "higher" than 720, obviously . But there are other factors also on our device.
I just record in 720p. Never really compared the two, but I don't need 1080p usually, so I' don't need those huge files either.
Good discussion on here, guess I'll have to switch to 720p now on.
I tried recording an apple in the 2 modes and to my surprise the 720p mode is indeed much clearer and wider then 1080p.
Go for 720p
I prefer 720 p... for my the quality is enought and the size of the videos is so better.
Regards
I there any way to record video @60 fps? Or to step down from full HD to 720p? I mean, I'd much rather have 720p @60fps instead of full HD @30fps. Having a full HD video recording on such small sensor and lens is like having 12+Mpix, total overkill (and quality goes down).
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I there any way to record video @60 fps? Or to step down from full HD to 720p? I mean, I'd much rather have 720p @60fps instead of full HD @30fps. Having a full HD video recording on such small sensor and lens is like having 12+Mpix, total overkill (and quality goes down).
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I had a sony camcorder that did 60fps at 720p and 30fps and the 60fps was so smooth against 30fps, it would be great to have 60fps on the s2! the video on the s2 has always been so choppy plus its not even a true 30fps ( Samsung lies about this )
lukabike said:
I there any way to record video @60 fps? Or to step down from full HD to 720p? I mean, I'd much rather have 720p @60fps instead of full HD @30fps. Having a full HD video recording on such small sensor and lens is like having 12+Mpix, total overkill (and quality goes down).
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You can try 720p @60fps with lgcamera app from market, i know it has this option in settings but im not sure if it is possible without modified kernel on GNote.
Pollux King said:
You can try 720p @60fps with lgcamera app from market, i know it has this option in settings but im not sure if it is possible without modified kernel on GNote.
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I have LG Camera and it says 60fps but is only 30fps
Came across this thread and would love to be able to record @60fps 720p so im reviving this thread
Anyone got more info about this
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Came across this thread and would love to be able to record @60fps 720p so im reviving this thread
Anyone got more info about this
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Rivan_92 said:
Came across this thread and would love to be able to record @60fps 720p so im reviving this thread
Anyone got more info about this
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