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I'm currently using a G1 on a shared account with my wife. My wife's line is eligible for an upgrade, mine is not. I wanted to use her line to get the myTouch with the discount, but a CSR with TMo told me that the line getting the upgrade would have to be carrying a G1/myTouch data plan. My wife is not currently carrying any data plan and doesn't want one.
I've done this upgrade flipflop in the past with no problem, but these are the first phones I've had that supposedly REQUIRE data plans.
Has anybody done this? Any problems with the upgrade discount or anything like that? Any ideas on what to do?
buy it thru the tmobile online store, no data plans required
J.a.M said:
buy it thru the tmobile online store, no data plans required
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good point, not sure why I didn't think of that.
^^You can do that^^ or you can get it with the data plan then just cancel the data plan.
supremeteam256 said:
^^You can do that^^ or you can get it with the data plan then just cancel the data plan.
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this is how i did my upgrade. on the family plan, my sisters line was up for an upgrade, mine wasnt. used hers to get the phone and then just added the data plan to my line. did it all in the store. just tell the CSR what you wanna do and they should have you good to go in like 15 minutes... wait its tmob, say 30 lol
I was just wondering if anybody has personally been able to use their grandfathered $10 web2go data plan with their new samsung vibrant? I was able to use it on my old wm phones with the right apn settings but I'm not sure if it's the same in android. If you have gotten it to work, I would really appreciate it if you could post your apn settings because so far all the ones I've tried online haven't worked for me.
All of those grandfathered plans work -- for about six hours. I was using T-Zones on my iPhone, which worked on my Vibrant until my account updated. Once T-Mo updates your profile with the IEMI number of the device, they cut off your access and forward your phone to an obnoxious 'Upgrade To The Android Data Plan' message.
If they didn't have your phone registered in their database, you could continue to use your grandfathered plan (which you should be able to do anyway, to be honest).
And then, of course, you're asked to pay $30/mo for an 'unlimited' data plan that actually has a 3G cap of 10GB. Once you reach that threshold, you're throttled to EDGE.
Meanwhile, Sprint and Verizon have truly unlimited data for phones, for the exact same price.
If Verizon still has their unlimited data package when their GSM network rolls out for LTE, I know where I'm going...
If u talk to customer loyality you can get the grandfathered $20 / mon data plan. I know it's not the $10 plan but atleast it's not the $30 plan. I talked to them and they let me use that plan, just make sure you request them to add-on the visual voicemail option if you use the TMo one since it won't work off hand w/out it added on as an option (this add-on is free).
No direct experience with the $10 plan, but I had the way old 5.99 T-zones that allowed a proxy setting to get full 'net access on a symbian phone. It worked for a few hours with my first android then was blocked. I stuck my brother's SIM whose account had the same proxy 'net access with no monthly fee and it worked with android for a few hours as well.
Seems as if T-Mo is detecting android phones on the network and actually enforcing a data plan requirement.
I've read numerous posts at the official T-mobile forums and beyond a couple of phones like the Samsung Behold, no Android phone and certainly no upper-range Android phone that is branded by T-mobile (they have the IMEI numbers blocked) will work with the $5.99 T-zones or the $10 web2go plan. The only options are the $30 (EM) / $25 (EM+) Android data plan or the preferred version for loyal customers, which is $5 cheaper.
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The only options are the $30 (EM) / $25 (EM+) Android data plan or the preferred version for loyal customers, which is $5 cheaper.
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Or the $19.99 plan if u call in and talk to retentions they can add it there. Did it there with no issues.
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Or the $19.99 plan if u call in and talk to retentions they can add it there. Did it there with no issues.
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Well I tried calling several times but no such luck on getting through to the customer loyalty department thus far. Is there some special password or buzzword to talk to these guys? Although truth be told I've only been with tmobile since 2007. Is that a long enough time to qualify for this preferred plan? I really love how tmobile screws us android users over. It's no wonder as to how they're losing customers and yet still gaining revenue...
You have to say that you're thinking about moving to a different carrier, and you'd like to be transferred to the customer retention department.
I brought up the Sprint $70/mo unlimited plan (450 landline minuts, unlimited cell minutes, unlimited text, unlimited data). I was able to negotiate unlimited minutes (regardless) and unlimited data for $70 (I declined texts because GVoice is free, and texting is stupid anyway).
Hope that helps.
I think I'm just gonna return the vibrant and use my hd2 until my contract ends in a couple months and then possibly buy the vibrant off contract. Perhaps by then they'll have actually bothered fixing the gps although I'm not holding my breath...
The only thing I don't understand is on the even more + plans it seems data is $20 a month in the bundle. Is this true for android phones as well? Or is there some special android data plan designated to milk us for more money?
just get EM+
if u get the talk text web package it's included.
or else it's $25.00 addon
scrizz said:
just get EM+
if u get the talk text web package it's included.
or else it's $25.00 addon
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Thanks, I think I can live without data for a month so I guess I'll switch to that plan when my contract's up. I may just use google voice for text since I don't even use it that often.
I was on grandfathered "Total Internet" and it worked for about three hours. Then I got IMEI intercepted. ****ers.
Anyway, called and raised hell, they switch the data to the Loyalty Android. Same price. I then went back to the HD2 and it didn't lock me even after several hours, so it appears that with Android Data you can switch between it and Windows Mobile, but with the old "Total Internet" you CANNOT use Android handsets.
Pretty stupid if you ask me, and I told them so, since there IS a $20 option that Loyalty can put on the account (if you qual for it, and if you have grandfathered data they should not object, since there's no reason for you to pay more and GET LESS.)
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I was on grandfathered "Total Internet" and it worked for about three hours. Then I got IMEI intercepted. ****ers.
Anyway, called and raised hell, they switch the data to the Loyalty Android. Same price. I then went back to the HD2 and it didn't lock me even after several hours, so it appears that with Android Data you can switch between it and Windows Mobile, but with the old "Total Internet" you CANNOT use Android handsets.
Pretty stupid if you ask me, and I told them so, since there IS a $20 option that Loyalty can put on the account (if you qual for it, and if you have grandfathered data they should not object, since there's no reason for you to pay more and GET LESS.)
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Interesting. And what would the qualifications for that plan be?
If you don't have Total Internet, you probably can't get swapped over. Total Internet was their old $20 unlimited (TRULY unlimited, not throttled) data plan.
I've been with T-Mo since it was Voicestream, and had Total Internet on my old Nokia 6161... with which I tethered! They did not want to see me leave, and I was quite willing to go to Sprint if I had to. It helped that I am off contract.
Damn. I've only been with with tmobile since 2007. Right around the same time at&t's network began bucking under the weight of the iphones really.
Like I said: try calling customer loyalty / retention. I've been with T-Mo for nearly a decade, and they switched me to the $20 'Unlimited*' Android plan, from my $5/mo T-Zones.
*Plan is not actually Unlimited -- 3G Data is capped at 10GB. Upon reaching 10GB cap, said customer is dropped to EDGE.
Jon C said:
Like I said: try calling customer loyalty / retention. I've been with T-Mo for nearly a decade, and they switched me to the $20 'Unlimited*' Android plan, from my $5/mo T-Zones.
*Plan is not actually Unlimited -- 3G Data is capped at 10GB. Upon reaching 10GB cap, said customer is dropped to EDGE.
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Considering you were with them for so long it would make sense for them to give you that deal but I only got about 3 years under my belt with them. Aw well, I'll give it another try anyways. Couldn't hurt right?
I've been with t-mobile for 3 months now...month to month everything plus plan. put my sim card in an old phone, added $10 web2go plan, swapped sim into vibrant, instantly needed to upgrade my data plan, I called t-mobile, when asked to say what I needed help with, I said 'cancel services', once I connected to a rep I told him I just added $10 plan, and now my vibrant wants me to upgrade again, he told me $10 more per month, so $20 data plan, now all is good, pretty simple
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I've been with t-mobile for 3 months now...month to month everything plus plan. put my sim card in an old phone, added $10 web2go plan, swapped sim into vibrant, instantly needed to upgrade my data plan, I called t-mobile, when asked to say what I needed help with, I said 'cancel services', once I connected to a rep I told him I just added $10 plan, and now my vibrant wants me to upgrade again, he told me $10 more per month, so $20 data plan, now all is good, pretty simple
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sounds good, will try
I went through customer loyalty. They gave me unlimited talk for $49.95 plus unlimited web and text for $35.00. That's $20 for unlimited web and $14.95 for unlimited texting. I quess that's a good deal. If not some one tell me! LOL! So I can call them again and haggle!
Hey guys, I was just wondering how much you guys pay for the data plan? I heard T-Mobile has an unlimited Android web plan for $20, does that include the HSPA+ network? I also hear some people getting it for $10 saying it's a really crappy phone. Also will the g1 data plan work for the g2's hspa+ network?
Thanks!
As far as I know there are three available data plans.
$10 should be the regular plan for basic phones, not smart phones
$20 should be for the phones that support wifi but have a 5gb limit before throttling
$30 should be the android data plan with the hrsp+ deal and I've heard that you can hit 10gb before tombile considers throttle your speed
That's just based on what I've read on forums and junk.
Thanks for the reply, oh man $30 a month for HSPA+? Looks like I'll just stick with the $20 after a month or two. Thanks!
and if you buy a phone at full price, the cheapest data plan can be $25 (no unlimited text). the cheapest call plan is $29.99.
actually, if you make 2-year contract, the cheapest total plan will be $79.99? month-to-month is $25 cheaper a month over next 24 months. so total 2 year saving will be about $600.
it can cover the full price of phone.
in addition, you can add/drop data plan anytime and they charge daily proportion of $25. if you are usually just home/office where wifi is there on weekdays but going out of town on weekend, you can add data plan online on friday and cut on sunday.
moreover, even if you don't have a data plan, you can access to the internet for $1.99/MB for emergency.
and T-mo has no interest installment. if you buy G2 now, you pay $70+ for first payment + tax, then start paying $25 from january for 19 months.
Thanks for the reply, MassimoM2! Sadly, I can not get the contract as I might switch carriers any time. The emergency $1.99/MB is interesting, I have a g1 without a data plan, and it tells me I will need a data plan to use the internet.
My main plan is to buy it for the full retail price and see whichever is the cheapest way to get internet. Looks like I will get the 24.99 plan since I already have text, thanks!
Through a link from my company's website, I was able to place an order for the Atrix with unlimited Data/Messaging for $30 extra on the ATT premiere site. See attached image. However, the price for the phone is $299 as oppose to $199. If I take out the $30 unlimited data/text and replace it with 2gb Datapro, the phone becomes $199. I get an extra $100 off of the phone if I sign up for the 2GB Datapro.
I texts alot, so I opted for the $30 unlimited data/messaging plan. My question is, will this stick? When they ship me the phone, will I have issue activating it???
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i dont think you will have a problem
Anyone with experience? I got my tracking info already...delivery on Monday...
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Anyone with experience? I got my tracking info already...delivery on Monday...
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I entered the enterprise website for me and I don't get any of that.
I thought that $30 for unlimited data and text plan was for non-smartphones
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I entered the enterprise website for me and I don't get any of that.
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CowMix said:
I thought that $30 for unlimited data and text plan was for non-smartphones
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Here's how I did it:
1. Go to the premiere website
2. Add a plan first.
3. click on "Add a phone" and choose Atrix
4. When asked for data service add-on, click "skip"
5. When asked for Accessories click "skip"
6. Now it's asking you to add features. Click on the Data/Messaging for $30 and click "add to cart"
If you do this, it'll show the phone priced at $299. If you add a datapro instead, it'll show $199. I couldn't do this on the ATT's regular site, but I was able to do it on the Premiere website. Plus I get 20% discount from my job, so it's $62/month + tax and $343 up front. The extra $100 you pay for the phone is worth it for unlimited data + Messaging.
If you get the datapro, it's $20/month (20% discount) + $10 for 1000 Texts messages.
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Here's how I did it:
1. Go to the premiere website
2. Add a plan first.
3. click on "Add a phone" and choose Atrix
4. When asked for data service add-on, click "skip"
5. When asked for Accessories click "skip"
6. Now it's asking you to add features. Click on the Data/Messaging for $30 and click "add to cart"
If you do this, it'll show the phone priced at $299. If you add a datapro instead, it'll show $199. I couldn't do this on the ATT's regular site, but I was able to do it on the Premiere website. Plus I get 20% discount from my job, so it's $62/month + tax and $343 up front. The extra $100 you pay for the phone is worth it for unlimited data + Messaging.
If you get the datapro, it's $20/month (20% discount) + $10 for 1000 Texts messages.
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I went in through the premier website and I got the same thing! You can skip the data plan section and when you get to the text plan section you can actually pick one that says unlimited text and data for $30.
Could AT&T be bringing back unlimited data??? Maybe it's a feature just offered to premier members or it's a glitch. AT&T should offer a plan that has unlimited text, data and mobile to any mobile for $35!
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I went in through the premier website and I got the same thing! You can skip the data plan section and when you get to the text plan section you can actually pick one that says unlimited text and data for $30.
Could AT&T be bringing back unlimited data??? Maybe it's a feature just offered to premier members or it's a glitch. AT&T should offer a plan that has unlimited text, data and mobile to any mobile for $35!
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Did you place an order? I was able to place another order for a friend yesterday.
The 2GB datapro cost $20 after 20% discount and $10 for 1000 texts. So basically you're paying an extra $150 (comparing phone price to radio shack) for unlimited data/text for 2 years. I normally use 1400-1500 each month, so $150 extra is worth it.
I guess we'll find out tomorrow if the activation will go through smoothly. I hope it's a glitch, and they'll honor it.
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Did you place an order? I was able to place another order for a friend yesterday.
The 2GB datapro cost $20 after 20% discount and $10 for 1000 texts. So basically you're paying an extra $150 (comparing phone price to radio shack) for unlimited data/text for 2 years. I normally use 1400-1500 each month, so $150 extra is worth it.
I guess we'll find out tomorrow if the activation will go through smoothly. I hope it's a glitch, and they'll honor it.
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I didn't place an order I just checked to see if I got the same choices you got and it worked.
You ordered another Atrix for your friend...did you do it through your account for the same price as yours? How do you get the 20% discount I only get 15%? :/
I see it as well. The problem is I have an ATT account already, so I dont know if ordering a new plan is the way to go.
Just tried this out and checked with ATT. If you want to keep your unlimited data plan the phone is $299. If you want it for $199 you need to change your data plan away from unlimited.
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Just tried this out and checked with ATT. If you want to keep your unlimited data plan the phone is $299. If you want it for $199 you need to change your data plan away from unlimited.
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I think the important thing is also that you can get the unlimited plan this way without having it before. I don't have it now and it lets me add it.
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I think the important thing is also that you can get the unlimited plan this way without having it before. I don't have it now and it lets me add it.
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I think the important thing here is. Who has called At&t and verify this?
hate to burst your guys bubbles, but that $30 for unlimited text and data is for basic and quick messaging phones, not smart phones. Its not going to stick, you will have to get the $25 for data pro.
ps i work for att. The only way i know of to get unlimited data if you dont have it already is to activate a 2g iphone on your account and then switch to a newer smart phone and then you will be able to keep the unlimited data.
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I think the important thing here is. Who has called At&t and verify this?
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I wouldnt do that because if its a glitch itll get fixed soon. Ill check it for myself tomorrow. I have 22% off with the company I work at and we also have a ATT corporate website. So Ill update tomorrow.
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I didn't place an order I just checked to see if I got the same choices you got and it worked.
You ordered another Atrix for your friend...did you do it through your account for the same price as yours? How do you get the 20% discount I only get 15%? :/
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Depends on the company you work for. I work for Xerox, so I get 20%. Xerox has a benefits website, so using the active link through the company I was able to sign up another account. So basically I sign into Xerox, and I go through their link. From what I heard, I can't do it more than once, but this time was able to do it twice using my personal email too. My friend got his order confirmation. Hopefully everything goes smoothly.
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hate to burst your guys bubbles, but that $30 for unlimited text and data is for basic and quick messaging phones, not smart phones. Its not going to stick, you will have to get the $25 for data pro.
ps i work for att. The only way i know of to get unlimited data if you dont have it already is to activate a 2g iphone on your account and then switch to a newer smart phone and then you will be able to keep the unlimited data.
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Y U NO BURST MY BUBBLE!?!?! lol...
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Y U NO BURST MY BUBBLE!?!?! lol...
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At&t said the same thing. Your phones data will not work when you get it. Either that or you'll receive a message in the next couple of mins saying that your plan has change.
boostedneonsrt4 said:
hate to burst your guys bubbles, but that $30 for unlimited text and data is for basic and quick messaging phones, not smart phones. Its not going to stick, you will have to get the $25 for data pro.
ps i work for att. The only way i know of to get unlimited data if you dont have it already is to activate a 2g iphone on your account and then switch to a newer smart phone and then you will be able to keep the unlimited data.
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I would be interested in hearing more about this.
how much would one have to pay for an iphone plan (did you mean to say 2nd generation? or did you mean to say the original iphone without 3g)
I am pretty interested in getting an atrix but no unlimited Internet especially for a larger price than my current plan is a dealbreaker.
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I would be interested in hearing more about this.
how much would one have to pay for an iphone plan (did you mean to say 2nd generation? or did you mean to say the original iphone without 3g)
I am pretty interested in getting an atrix but no unlimited Internet especially for a larger price than my current plan is a dealbreaker.
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If you are a new customer you wont have Unlimited Data. Case closed.
so I had Tmo Shadow data plan for $10 bucks, and recently switched to MyTouch 4G and obviously lost internet, Tmo rep upgraded my plan to 5GB data and looks like I am still paying $10 bucks.
Might "look" that way, wait till the bill comes though... don't get the 5GB plan. the 2GB plan is more than enough. Just connect to wifi while you're home. I have 2 GB and don't even use half of it.
Hit Thanks if this helped.
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so I had Tmo Shadow data plan for $10 bucks, and recently switched to MyTouch 4G and obviously lost internet, Tmo rep upgraded my plan to 5GB data and looks like I am still paying $10 bucks.
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Are you referring to web2go? The MT4G isn't supposed to be compatible with the web2go.
Can you log into my.t-mobile.com and find out what they have you at?
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Are you referring to web2go? The MT4G isn't supposed to be compatible with the web2go.
Can you log into my.t-mobile.com and find out what they have you at?
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yes. i had web2go on Nexus. bought MyTouch 4G (used) and could not connect to internet, called tmobile and they switched me to 5GB data plan for the same price, at least thats what rep said.....and i asked him twice to make sure there are no additional costs. my plan at tmobile.com is 500 min + 5GB 4G data for $39 bucks. This month is prorated so its not 100% clear. Its still $39 bucks, but data is split 8 bucks of web2go and 3 bucks on 4G web
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so I had Tmo Shadow data plan for $10 bucks, and recently switched to MyTouch 4G and obviously lost internet, Tmo rep upgraded my plan to 5GB data and looks like I am still paying $10 bucks.
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What did you tell them exactly to get this deal? Thanks.
I have something similar. My sensation (international version) didn't work, so I was going to get the Android Preferred but I didn't want to extend my plan 2 years because of AT&T. They gave me $10/month off for taking the Android Preferred with 2 years extension... - okay, I checked and this shows up as credit adjustment under the main family account
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yes. i had web2go on Nexus. bought MyTouch 4G (used) and could not connect to internet, called tmobile and they switched me to 5GB data plan for the same price, at least thats what rep said.....and i asked him twice to make sure there are no additional costs. my plan at tmobile.com is 500 min + 5GB 4G data for $39 bucks. This month is prorated so its not 100% clear. Its still $39 bucks, but data is split 8 bucks of web2go and 3 bucks on 4G web
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I asked too and after consulting a manager the rep offered 5GB for $25 a month. (Its usually more). I just took the 200MB plan. ($10)
You're lucky
Well not that lucky. Turned out that rep LIED to me. (I asked him many times if I will still be paying $10 for my 5gb data and he said yes) 1st month I did end up paying $10 bucks, but 2nd month they charged me $25. I called them up and they refunded me $15 bucks and I also had to switch to Valve plan with 2-year contract. Now I get 2GB data for $10 bucks. My bill used to be $40 with 5GB and now its $45 with 2GB. (i only use 1.5-2.0GB max though)
I was pretty pissed....not really because I had to switch, but because of that STUPID rep.
never agree to the solutions they offer. Always ask them to fix the problem and remove whatever they added to your account.
then go to the store and start over. the "fixing" is always good on their end. it's on the books. you just agreed to a 2yr contrat w/out even a free phone
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never agree to the solutions they offer. Always ask them to fix the problem and remove whatever they added to your account.
then go to the store and start over. the "fixing" is always good on their end. it's on the books. you just agreed to a 2yr contrat w/out even a free phone
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For me there was no other solution, and there was no contract either. $10 200MB and then "unlimited" 2G
britoso said:
For me there was no other solution, and there was no contract either. $10 200MB and then "unlimited" 2G
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Correction, the T-mobile rep LIED to me too. Even after I repeatedly verified. There are overage charges on the $10 data plan. (They removed it for me after I called, but only once)
There are no overages only if you are on the "Value" or "Classic" plans. I am on the old even-more-plus no-contract plan.
Note: Only the classic plan lets you get a subsidised phone. And switching to "value" or "classic" both require a 2 year contract.
Sad t-mobile, sad.
I dont know where people get that Tmobile is #1 in customer service.....every single time I call its a lie after lie......followed by another lie
They are usually nice on the phone...compared to att. No other carrier can match their rates either.
(5 lines, 1000 min , 3 lines with 2GB high speed data then unlimited 2G for $95/month)