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Which processor for which market...

Its been rumored that the galaxy s2 will ship with two different SOCs. The new dual core Hummingbird SOC by samsung and the tegra 2. They say they the model you get will depend on what market you are in.
Any idea wich will launch in the usa? And how will this effect the hacking? Different exploits for different models?
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Very interesting...
I wonder what will be in Europe?
Which is better?
Tegra ?
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GlossGhost said:
Very interesting...
I wonder what will be in Europe?
Which is better?
Tegra ?
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i9100 (exynos + super amoled plus) = Europa (germany, holland, uk)
i9103 (tegra2+SLCD) = Parts of Asia and ????
As far as i know (there are no official statments that i've seen).
i9100 is better.

killersnowman said:
Its been rumored that the galaxy s2 will ship with two different SOCs. The new dual core Hummingbird SOC by samsung and the tegra 2. They say they the model you get will depend on what market you are in.
Any idea wich will launch in the usa? And how will this effect the hacking? Different exploits for different models?
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Well, it is the Exynos processor not a hummingbird (hummingbird is the processor of the original galaxy s), it is not yet known which will launch where and how it will effect hacking. We will have to wait for that.

golf2vr6 said:
i9100 (exynos + super amoled plus) = Europa (germany, holland, uk)
i9103 (tegra2+SLCD) = Parts of Asia and ????
As far as i know (there are no official statments that i've seen).
i9100 is better.
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extremely wronggggg baby, samsung india has confirmed s2 with exynos + super amoled + display and india is an asian country

sajadkhan806 said:
extremely wronggggg baby, samsung india has confirmed s2 with exynos + super amoled + display and india is an asian country
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He says parts of Asia...
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There was a discussion about Tegra and Exynos versions.
I remember that Tegra goes to south America and USA and that's all.

Is that Tegra2 + SLCD even confirmed by anyone yet? I haven't seen anything but rumors.

All rumors, nothing that has been remotely confirmed by Samsung. Just a few benchmark sites posting the possibility of a Tegra 2 version.
At least thats what I have seen so far.

Tegra 2 + SLCD = Russia and Middle East.
not confirmed .. but like the old galaxy s i9000
when it came with slcd and another processor it was for ME and Russia

I think sammy would want their SOC in the "premier" markets. And maybe use tegra as a way to fill in the gaps in countries that are maybe less inclined to buy a super high end smart phone
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I have never seen proof anywhere that the Tegra 2 version will come with SC-LCD.
Has anyone else?
i think this time around, samsung is going to keep the screen on both the versions as Super AMOLED Plus, and only change the SOC where necessary.

Its probably not relevant to you guys but apparently the combination of Tegra/SAMOLED+ is coming to Hong Kong.
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sckc23 said:
Its probably not relevant to you guys but apparently the combination of Tegra/SAMOLED+ is coming to Hong Kong.
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Sorry for your region ! Though thanks for the news, interesting.

EleCtrOx666 said:
Sorry for your region ! Though thanks for the news, interesting.
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Nah.. i'll get the one with exynos in uk
anyway glad its coming with SAMOLED+ cuz thats what makes SGSII stand out.

how can samsung still call a version with slcd and tegra 2 samsung galaxy s 2. its highly likely that handset with slcd will be considerably thicker and will be less efficient in consuming battery. there may be tegra2 with samoled plus but i highly doubt slcd version will come out. may be tegra 2 with amoled or superamoled ?????

awesome-member said:
how can samsung still call a version with slcd and tegra 2 samsung galaxy s 2. its highly likely that handset with slcd will be considerably thicker and will be less efficient in consuming battery. there may be tegra2 with samoled plus but i highly doubt slcd version will come out. may be tegra 2 with amoled or superamoled ?????
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No SAmoled and SAmoled+ at the same time! Samsung is replacing SA with SA+. SA is basically not produced. It is old technology, makes no sense for them to use factory capacities for SA when they can use them for SA+.
And Samsung Galaxy S II is a series or family of devices, just like the original Galaxy S was. You had various screen and processor technologies in the original SGS, as well as various screen sizes!
How you distinguish these - by model number.
SA+ with Exynos is model GT-i9100 (followed by letters of the target market)
hope this helps.

kreoXDA said:
No SAmoled and SAmoled+ at the same time! Samsung is replacing SA with SA+. SA is basically not produced. It is old technology, makes no sense for them to use factory capacities for SA when they can use them for SA+.
And Samsung Galaxy S II is a series or family of devices, just like the original Galaxy S was. You had various screen and processor technologies in the original SGS, as well as various screen sizes!
How you distinguish these - by model number.
SA+ with Exynos is model GT-i9100 (followed by letters of the target market)
hope this helps.
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i am aware of those version of sgs2. i was just saying without exyonus(i can't for the life in me get the spelling right) ,samoled plus and the slimness would it still be samsung galaxy s2.i am aware of the fact that superamoled plus is scarce at the moment but how can samsung face such a difficulty in finding stock for ONE product line which is bound to be a success.

sckc23 said:
Its probably not relevant to you guys but apparently the combination of Tegra/SAMOLED+ is coming to Hong Kong.
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Wow, that seems like a positive confirmation that there is a Tegra 2 version in the works.

I have post this before that the rumor about the SLCD is over hype and not correct, why people still mention it, and yes, there is tegra 2 version but it come with super amoled plus...

I9100, I9101 and I9103

There are Galaxy S II variants for International market. I9101 is NFC-enabled while I9103 is Tegra 2-based. So, which one will get the most of the development here? It's soooo important for me. I see that Galaxy SL has very little attention from devs. So, I don't want to be on a loser's side. Or is it not gonna be like Galaxy S/SL?

I think active contributors are also early users, the i9100 should be a good base. Anyway, the nfc ver. is very similar. The tegra based will be less followed I think.
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I think that developers will focus more on the I9100 as its the first version to get release in the UK. the NFC version shouldn't be that much of a difference the tegra 2 will get less attention.
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There are Galaxy S II variants for International market. I9101 is NFC-enabled while I9103 is Tegra 2-based. So, which one will get the most of the development here? It's soooo important for me. I see that Galaxy SL has very little attention from devs. So, I don't want to be on a loser's side. Or is it not gonna be like Galaxy S/SL?
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Technically NFC is only difference between I9100 and I9101, so same development can be applied.. for Tegra 2 version, all CPU development will be bit different.. Gamer lovers will like tigra 2(though I9100 is better for all non-Tegra games).. most Devs are into Roms, themes, root, overclock.. so for me I9100 is safe bet
mawardi said:
There are Galaxy S II variants for International market. I9101 is NFC-enabled while I9103 is Tegra 2-based. So, which one will get the most of the development here? It's soooo important for me. I see that Galaxy SL has very little attention from devs. So, I don't want to be on a loser's side. Or is it not gonna be like Galaxy S/SL?
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Dark_Lord0122 said:
I think that developers will focus more on the I9100 as its the first version to get release in the UK. the NFC version shouldn't be that much of a difference the tegra 2 will get less attention.
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The I9103 with its Tegra 2 chip should run existing software that is tailored for Tegra 2. Since there is huge backing behind Tegra 2, the I9103 is not really getting less attention.

since many "tegra" games already run on the i9100, and that the exynos is so much faster, tegra is like, bleh.
also the tegra version is a super lcd i think?

bilboa1 said:
since many "tegra" games already run on the i9100, and that the exynos is so much faster, tegra is like, bleh.
also the tegra version is a super lcd i think?
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"Many" refers mostly to the Gameloft games. There are many other 3D games out there that the exynos can't run. I'd say "handful" instead.

Sleepycat3 said:
"Many" refers mostly to the Gameloft games. There are many other 3D games out there that the exynos can't run. I'd say "handful" instead.
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errr, nope, Gameloft has never done any "Tegra 2 only" games that I'm aware of, so all their games will probably be updated to support Exynos eventually.
I think "many" referred to the games which are supposed to run only on Tegra 2 devices like Samurai Revenge 2 HD, Pinball HD, or Guerilla Bob THD, but which work perfectly on Exynos once you use the appropriate drivers, proving that the "Tegra 2 optimised" is just marketting and a software lock.
Just wanted to make that clear, but actually I agree that most games will probably be optimised for Tegra 2 since it will be the most common platform. (Also Xperia play seems to have lots of games designed for it... I guess it's good news for those who are stuck on single core/Adreno 205 phones...)

I9101 is going to be powered by TI OMAP 4430 after all (source: GSMArena).

bilboa1 said:
since many "tegra" games already run on the i9100, and that the exynos is so much faster, tegra is like, bleh.
also the tegra version is a super lcd i think?
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We in Croatia are getting the Tegra version and it does indeed have a Super Amoled+ diplay. Still it's only clocked at 1.0 Ghz compared to the 1.2 Ghz of the Exynos

I think its way too early to suggest any particular variant will get more dev, i have to say though that I don't think we know which chipset the NFC version will have though either.
It will ultimately depend on which phones hits the devs hands and that will probably be determined by region and quantity rather that who got which first first and what chipset it is running.
We are just going to have to see, but also hope that some of the dev is interchangeable between handsets with a few minor tweaks.

Some nice comparsion charts:
inspiredgeek. c o m/2011/03/13/samsung-galaxy-sii-s2-exynos-4210-vs-tegra-2-which-version-will-be-better/
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pepemosca said:
Some nice comparsion charts:
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Uhh that is a very bad charts they stole early benchmark pictures from anandtech site here is original early preview, they were done on 1ghz and old firmware SGS2, i ran GLBenchmark 2.0 on another site as part of review , SGS2 blows anything away.
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@ghost77, sorry

first, waiting for S I909 the dual on CDMA-GSM galaxy, but since theres no information about the exact time, i went to I9100, magnificent masterpiece by samsung

Samsung Galaxy Note 2 - GSM Arena

GSM arena has some info on what might be N2.
And I just bought a S3 due to the rumors.
5.5" screen
Also rumored is an 8MP camera with improved sensor, as well as 1.5 GB of RAM, along with a new Exynos 5250 chipset, featuring a dual-core ARM-15 processor. 4G connectivity will allegedly come standard for all international units.
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I think that the N2 atleast should have a quadcore at 1.6Ghz, 2GB of RAM...
But, let's see what hapends, I have ordered the S3 (With a Beats Pro headset ) and if the N2 kicks ass...I might sell the S3 again for the N2...
Source:
http://www.gsmarena.com/galaxy_note_2_allegedly_scheduled_for_october_2012-news-4334.php

I dont think n2 will have quad core and 2gb ram,
first, if n2 use top spec, what is the selling point for s3/4?
Second, now quad core is base on a9, the mentioned dual core is base on a15
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if it goes with quad cpu like s3, then resolution will be the same, if resolution will be same, no point to make bigger screen.
So in my theory:
if goes with 5250 eynos, resolution and screen will be bigger
if with quad cpu, resolution and screen will be same

haha, I was right with my comic strip day before yesterday at the Note 2 rumormil thread.
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GSMArena used the same source as the other guy who posted this in the general forum.
It's bogus.
Go read it. It's completely ridiculous.

This is how rumors get started.
A blogspam site ("ubuntulife") posted poorly written speculation a few days ago. I believe mobilesyrup picked it up and now gsmarena.
This is basically the equivalent of the blind leading the blind. Except in this case they're stupid. But maybe also blind, too.
This is also why "blogs" and "bloggers" aren't respected. They don't follow the tenets of journalism, aren't double checking their facts and sources, aren't expected to have any sort of journalistic integrity, have no accountability, don't follow style guides, don't have knowledge of the law regarding what/when/how they can write certain things and never had to attend school and/or receive certification to blog.
I expect this bogus "story" to fully make the rounds of the Internet.
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rlaw said:
This is how rumors get started.
A blogspam site ("ubuntulife") posted poorly written speculation a few days ago. I believe mobilesyrup picked it up and now gsmarena.
This is basically the equivalent of the blind leading the blind. Except in this case they're stupid. But maybe also blind, too.
This is also why "blogs" and "bloggers" aren't respected. They don't follow the tenets of journalism, aren't double checking their facts and sources, aren't expected to have any sort of journalistic integrity, have no accountability, don't follow style guides, don't have knowledge of the law regarding what/when/how they can write certain things and never had to attend school and/or receive certification to blog.
I expect this bogus "story" to fully make the rounds of the Internet.
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Yup.
567890

you should know that it just will be a 5.3" version of the S3 ... Samsung arn't stupid and know we'll all buy it... that way the can save newer tech for S4/N3

Xalies said:
you should know that it just will be a 5.3" version of the S3 ... Samsung arn't stupid and know we'll all buy it... that way the can save newer tech for S4/N3
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Not necessarily. It depends on what their competitor's offerings are at the time. Samsung may be forced to move in the dual core A15 2.0ghz by end of the year depending on what HTC, Apple, Motorola shove into their devices.

When you think about it it makes sense to have two flagship models from a business point of view then they can almost always claim that they have the best hardware
And with that logic we can't make any prediction about n2 hardware until we see what competitors markets as an s3 killer
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I think the S3 and Note 2 will tackle 2 different markets - the more tech guys/teenagers and especially people who already have an S2 will opt for the most popular phone by following the market trend, which is the S3. While business users/people who take notes regularly & those who prefer larger screen, will opt for the Note2. If you look at all the Android phones that are released recently or will be released, there is not 1 single phone that is appealing except the S3. It's a win/win situation for Samsung and the company seems to be on a winning stride with its flagship phones.

My guess is Note2 will be sharing the same hardware (SoC) as the SGS3, like they did with the SGS2 and Note1, i would be happy with it, but if i may choose i rather have the dualcore A15.
Only time will tell...

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fine, nice idea mods
by the way i read some where that most of the existing powervr 5 series gpus have the hardware for opengl es 3.0 support , its just a matter of time before they get it via a driver update.
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here is the link from anandtech
http://www.anandtech.com/show/6644/imagination-demonstrates-powervr-series-6-rogue-on-lgs-h13-soc

bala_gamer said:
fine, nice idea mods
by the way i read some where that most of the existing powervr 5 series gpus have the hardware for opengl es 3.0 support , its just a matter of time before they get it via a driver update.
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http://www.anandtech.com/show/6644/imagination-demonstrates-powervr-series-6-rogue-on-lgs-h13-soc
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The second part is some news about a subset of OpenGL ES 3.0 features that will be enabled retroactively on all PowerVR Series5XT hardware. The entire lineup apparently has the hardware to enable these OpenGL ES 3.0 features as an optional extension inside OpenGL ES 2.0.
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great

All of em with 2gb ram will be tons better. No comparison. Back to true multitasking and no iPhone clone crap reloading all apps.

I still can't believe that all flagship phones will be running FHD in 2013. I wonder how much battery can be saved using a HD display instead of a FHD display, rest all factors being equal?
I have a feeling that the benefits of going to FHD are merely from marketing perspective at this time. More resources used for GPU and display. "Diminishing marginal utility" applies here?
I just didn't expect it so soon. As long as battery life remains great, give me a 4K screen. I will never complain.

Came out today.
http://www.androidauthority.com/gal...k-lte-exynos-5-octa-powervr-sgx-544mp-164258/

nfsmw_gr said:
Came out today.
http://www.androidauthority.com/gal...k-lte-exynos-5-octa-powervr-sgx-544mp-164258/
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That doesn't to be very impresive. I hope its fake lol

djluis48 said:
That doesn't to be very impresive. I hope its fake lol
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Not very impressive?Compared against what?Alienware laptops?My S3 is overclocked to 1.7GHz on the CPU side and 600MHz on the GPU side and still gets "only" up to around 18500 in Antutu.Even the Snapdragon 600 hovers around the 22500 mark.What did you expect?I'd like it better too,but hold on
Anyway,using a PowerVR GPU gets me excited.No more half-arsed ported games and hopefully better performance than the Mali ones.The MP-400 was lovely on the S2 but it's too 2011 and ARM's T-6xx series has yet to prove it's worth something,while PowerVRs are tried and true(Although I have to admit I'll miss the MP-400's monstrous fill rate and I'll hate depending too much on resolution again).I only hope that the Exynos Octa indeed performs considerably better than the Snapdragon 600.Not because the 600 isn't good,but if they are so close in performance,the S800 will obliterate everything and even the Tegra 4 will best the Exynos.I can stand having a less powerful SoC than Qualcomm's(After all the S4 pro blew the Exynos 4412 last year) but not NVidia.I just hate these guys and they deserved being at the bottom of the performance charts.
Anyway,sure thing is that by summer 2013 the S3 will look mid-end and the S2 will look like a toy.I can't wait to get the S4 and get it to run at 2GHz.Yes,I'm crazy.

djluis48 said:
That doesn't to be very impresive. I hope its fake lol
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I wonder how Samsung or any other OEM can make something inpressive at all. I had a Xperia Z for the weekend and my S3 doen't feel at all too old.
FHD is nice because it is the industry standard (PC Monitors, TVs ,..) but from my normal reading distance I don't see a difference worth spending money for.
Current high end 3D games run on both phones fine, but they do so on a S2 also....
If Samsung would have put 2GB into the I9300, I guess I skipped the upgrade this year.

Looks like SGS4 won't have premium materials, but plastic again:
http://www.sammobile.com/2013/03/04/eldar-murtazin-galaxy-s-iv-is-built-from-plastic/
HTC One: aluminium
Xperia Z: glass
Nexus 4: glass
iPhone 5: aluminium
So SGS4 will be the only flagship made with plastic?

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Looks like SGS4 won't have premium materials, but plastic again:
http://www.sammobile.com/2013/03/04/eldar-murtazin-galaxy-s-iv-is-built-from-plastic/
HTC One: aluminium
Xperia Z: glass
Nexus 4: glass
iPhone 5: aluminium
So SGS4 will be the only flagship made with plastic?
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Dont know if its true.. but that no5 surprising... I dont mind plastic at all..its light, makes it removable, and dissipates heat better.. no fuss about loosing paint like in alluminium and smudges like in glass ( the nexus n4 s4 chip is said to tgrottle at stock to save the glass).. performance and funtion above looks always..
I only wish they bring out a better design and look or I might get something else..
Tapatalkedddd...!!!!!

First samsung teaser for S4 )
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=dIEfNaNCkKM
Look at 0:13 to 0:18 ^^

uvaman said:
First samsung teaser for S4 )
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=dIEfNaNCkKM
Look at 0:13 to 0:18 ^^
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no its note2
edit : HMM it seems not , i'm not sure but looks smaller than GN2
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Galaxy S IV will utilize eye-tracking technology that enables users to scroll through webpages without touching the screen
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The phone will track a user’s eyes to determine where to scroll, said a Samsung employee
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Source: http://bits.blogs.nytimes.com/2013/03/04/samsungs-new-smartphone-will-track-eyes-to-scroll-pages/

So does the Enoxsys Octo core cream the Snapdragon 600 found in the HTC One?
And is the S4 being announced and released on the same day?

Galaxy S IV will utilize eye-tracking technology that enables users to scroll through webpages without touching the screen
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So, Samsung Galaxy S4 will be an EYE-PHONE??? :laugh:
eye-phone... iphone... no? nothing? Oh well, I tried.

Kremata said:
So, Samsung Galaxy S4 will be an EYE-PHONE??? :laugh:
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Yep.. They have already trade-marked "Eye Scroll" and "Eye Pause".
http://tess2.uspto.gov/bin/showfield?f=doc&state=4010:yima0r.2.1
Computer application software having a feature of sensing eye movements and scrolling displays of mobile devices, namely, mobile phones, smart phones and tablet computers according to eye movements; digital cameras; mobile telephones; smart phones; tablet computers
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Eye Pause shows no specific description.

-A-P-M- said:
Looks like SGS4 won't have premium materials, but plastic again
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What's the problem with polymer casing? I think it's a good marketing decision.
First of all, I'm not planing to keep the phone for 20 years.
Second, it makes the phone lighter.
Third, makes the phone cheaper.
Fourth, I prefer to pay for better techology then fancy casing.
Fifth, they all need case protector anyway.

hot_spare said:
Yep.. They have already trade-marked "Eye Scroll" and "Eye Pause".
http://tess2.uspto.gov/bin/showfield?f=doc&state=4010:yima0r.2.1
Eye Pause shows no specific description.
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Actually I believe the first phone wich got those features is the S3 on the leaked 4.2.1 rom. The only thing is even if they are activated, they don't work. I believe they need fixing and the rom was a test one or something. So yeah, it's not gonna be something S4 exclusive, we are going to recieve those too . Till now, all Galaxy S series demonstrated that they are BEASTS and very difficult to let behind, they all get features official or non-official.
Look back at the support the S1 recieves and you'll be amazed

I cannot decide between Galaxy Note 3 and galaxy S4

Hello everyone, first of all, I am galaxy S4 user, I have both octa core and snapdragon. I am pretty sad about the poor battery life of Exynos S4(I play a lot of game) and the lack of custom developpement in the i9500 section.
I am pretty happy with the i9505 even if it "lacks" performance(Although it is already a beast with snapdragon 600) compared to the octa core and the future "Snapdragon 800" which will be rumoured to be integrated in the Galaxy Note 3.
I don't care if this device has 1 inch larger screen or something else. All I need in a phone is the absolute performance and the perfect fluidity when using. And the Note 3 seems to offer this performance with the Snapdragon 800. Playing games on the big screen fast device will be really cool, so is the SPen.
The only problem is that I am not someone patient. I have to wait 4 or 5 month until the Note 3 being released. So does this device really provide enough performance that I should wait for it?
(if it uses the octa core, I am sure to not buy it). Thank you for your advice.

Once it releases someone might be able to answer your question. Right now no one knows what the spec will be so no one can answer the question.
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Madawcisrich said:
Hello everyone, first of all, I am galaxy S4 user, I have both octa core and snapdragon. I am pretty sad about the poor battery life of Exynos S4(I play a lot of game) and the lack of custom developpement in the i9500 section.
I am pretty happy with the i9505 even if it "lacks" performance(Although it is already a beast with snapdragon 600) compared to the octa core and the future "Snapdragon 800" which will be rumoured to be integrated in the Galaxy Note 3.
I don't care if this device has 1 inch larger screen or something else. All I need in a phone is the absolute performance and the perfect fluidity when using. And the Note 3 seems to offer this performance with the Snapdragon 800. Playing games on the big screen fast device will be really cool, so is the SPen.
The only problem is that I am not someone patient. I have to wait 4 or 5 month until the Note 3 being released. So does this device really provide enough performance that I should wait for it?
(if it uses the octa core, I am sure to not buy it). Thank you for your advice.
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If you are impatient then you have not seen me yet. I used all the galaxy s and note series and I got them as soon as it reached my country. If I look back I can say that I have spent so much money on this. Ever since I got note 2, I am very much pleased with its performance, almost 0% issues. When S4 released, I was going for it, then saw that it has so many bugs right now, I stopped. Stopping wasn't an easy decision but I know it will be worth. If you just look at the rumored specs, it all suggests that its going to be a very powerful phone. The latest rumors suggest that it will not have an octa-core so I suggest you to hold your horse and expect an A+ device for note 3.

Madawcisrich said:
The only problem is that I am not someone patient. I have to wait 4 or 5 month until the Note 3 being released. So does this device really provide enough performance that I should wait for it?
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Really, how do you expect ANYONE to be able to answer that, when the device isn't released, or even had the final spec officially confirmed? You have an S4; keep it until the Note 3 comes out, then decide what you want to do.

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raghavafitt said:
Its Note3View attachment 2016002
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I'll buy that. LOL

raghavafitt said:
Its Note3View attachment 2016002
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Wow, if Note 3 looks like this it will be hard not to buy it, pretty nice.

So no hard keys or soft keys. . What does it use?... pie by default? ...lol
scribbled from my note 2 (N7100)

raghavafitt said:
Its Note3View attachment 2016002
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Do you have a Samsung source on this?
Way too much rumor spreading around this concept pic.
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The S4 is better because right now the S4 exists and the Note 3 is just rumors

If Note 3 has Snapdragon S800, definitely buy it

Get a Note 2. It is an S4 with a 5.6 inch screen.

The Note 3 is to the S4 as the Note 2 is to the S3, it's bound to have better features/ specs, plus the pen

gub said:
The S4 is better because right now the S4 exists and the Note 3 is just rumors
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Simple but true. (At least at the moment.)
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FIZMO said:
Get a Note 2. It is an S4 with a 5.6 inch screen.
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not really.
1. Note 2 hardware is just worse than S4. I would never buy note 2 which is much bigger, slightly slower than the galaxy S4
2. 720p resolution on a 5,6 inch screen against 1080p on a 5 inch? I prefer the second one.

Madawcisrich said:
not really.
1. Note 2 hardware is just worse than S4. I would never buy note 2 which is much bigger, slightly slower than the galaxy S4
2. 720p resolution on a 5,6 inch screen against 1080p on a 5 inch? I prefer the second one.
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Then why even ask the bloody question in the first place?

Note 3 . Or maybe note 2 . I can never use smaller phones now .

Madawcisrich said:
not really.
1. Note 2 hardware is just worse than S4. I would never buy note 2 which is much bigger, slightly slower than the galaxy S4
2. 720p resolution on a 5,6 inch screen against 1080p on a 5 inch? I prefer the second one.
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Having seen both side by side, the difference is negligible for all practical purposes. I wouldn't swap one for the other just on that factor of screen resolution alone.

apallohadas said:
Having seen both side by side, the difference is negligible for all practical purposes. I wouldn't swap one for the other just on that factor of screen resolution alone.
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Nor the so called speed difference. On paper the s4 is faster yet in real life it's impossible to notice any difference in speed whatsoever. Both phones are lightning fast. What you can notice is that the Note 2 has an s-pen and a bigger screen.
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Might as well buy the Note V! Now THAT one is powerful!
I already got two of them!