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what is the best rom for the MT3G right now.
I tried cyanogen 3.9.11.2 and seems like it has intermitant problems unlocking the screen were it will blink horizontal lines and then after a few times then unlock fine. Seems to happen more with the device when it is warm
I have also tried both v1.3 jacxrom builds and the full v3 hero and works fine when first booted but when I lock the screen and unlock it looks like the screen is overlayed with another copy of itself but a little to the right. Almost taking one verticle line of pixels and switching it wiht the row next to it in pairs al the way across the screen. Any ideas on which one I should be running.
TheArtiszan said:
what is the best rom for the MT3G right now.
I tried cyanogen 3.9.11.2 and seems like it has intermitant problems unlocking the screen were it will blink horizontal lines and then after a few times then unlock fine. Seems to happen more with the device when it is warm
I have also tried both v1.3 jacxrom builds and the full v3 hero and works fine when first booted but when I lock the screen and unlock it looks like the screen is overlayed with another copy of itself but a little to the right. Almost taking one verticle line of pixels and switching it wiht the row next to it in pairs al the way across the screen. Any ideas on which one I should be running.
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The new Cyanogen 4.1 that just came out is absolutely amazing. I just flashed it over on my MT3G today and have had no troubles. It's a must have.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=537204 Link to the Cyanogen 4.01
tazz9690 said:
The new Cyanogen 4.1 that just came out is absolutely amazing. I just flashed it over on my MT3G today and have had no troubles. It's a must have.
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Do you have all the tmobile apps that came with the mytouch (myfaves etc...)
Im still trying to decide whether or not to root. I have rooted "jailbroken" my iphone. Is rooting give you the same benefit as jailbraking? I mainly used the jailbreak for denied apps from the app store, themes, and tethering. Tethering is not so important (unless I'm traveling haha)
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Do you have all the tmobile apps that came with the mytouch (myfaves etc...)
Im still trying to decide whether or not to root. I have rooted "jailbroken" my iphone. Is rooting give you the same benefit as jailbraking? I mainly used the jailbreak for denied apps from the app store, themes, and tethering. Tethering is not so important (unless I'm traveling haha)
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Same idea and then some. Cyan does not include myFaves in his builds but it can be added. Check the G1 forum where he posts his ROMS. I saw a post about it the other day but can't remember where. Search. When in doubt, ROOOOOOT!!! No other way to use Android IMO.
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Same idea and then some. Cyan does not include myFaves in his builds but it can be added. Check the G1 forum where he posts his ROMS. I saw a post about it the other day but can't remember where. Search. When in doubt, ROOOOOOT!!! No other way to use Android IMO.
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So the myfaves app that came with my mytouch ("Magic" I like that name so much better btw mytouch sounds so girly) can't be pushed to me by tmobile. I happened to me once where it completely disappeared from my phone and cs refreshed my myfaves and i got it within 5 min. I guess its not a big deal if I can download it. How about the other apps like youtube, android market; will they work as they would on a non rooted mytouch?
The main thing stopping me from rooting is that I can't return it to the original factory state like I could for my iphone. Not sure how stuff works on android (im still a noob with this OS) but on the iphone it wasn't a big deal to jailbreak as it just modifies just a small part of the OS to allow non apple approved apps/themes etc... but with this its like it flashes a whole different OS. How about all the new updates like donut etc...that we will get ota. I guess the devs here will include all those features in their new ROMs (as they are doing now) so that is not such a big deal.
Thanks for the quick answer btw.
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So the myfaves app that came with my mytouch ("Magic" I like that name so much better btw mytouch sounds so girly) can't be pushed to me by tmobile. I happened to me once where it completely disappeared from my phone and cs refreshed my myfaves and i got it within 5 min. I guess its not a big deal if I can download it. How about the other apps like youtube, android market; will they work as they would on a non rooted mytouch?
The main thing stopping me from rooting is that I can't return it to the original factory state like I could for my iphone. Not sure how stuff works on android (im still a noob with this OS) but on the iphone it wasn't a big deal to jailbreak as it just modifies just a small part of the OS to allow non apple approved apps/themes etc... but with this its like it flashes a whole different OS. How about all the new updates like donut etc...that we will get ota. I guess the devs here will include all those features in their new ROMs (as they are doing now) so that is not such a big deal.
Thanks for the quick answer btw.
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Sorry for not answering your response as quickly as the first answer. I can't speak for the iPhone but the G1/myTouch (I have both) are a MUST root IMO. I think having total control over the phone and OS is so important. As far as Market, YouTube, etc. they all work. Every app works, as far as I am concerned and I have 225 apps (all paid for if they weren't free) installed. As far as updates are concerned, the devs here are months ahead of Google and TMO. Cyanogen (best ROMs here, IMO, if you aren't into Hero and things like that) already has some Donut stuff in his stable 4.0.1 ROM and adds quite a bit of cool features in his experimental ROMs. You can also add bits from other devs if Cyan doesn't include something you like. Cyan does not include myFaves (I forget why) but it can be added after. Just search around for that. Even without the app on your phone, you can always update them online and still make free calls to your faves. It just won't show on the phone, that is unless you have the "after market" app installed. Hope this helps. And like I said, root is absolutely the way to go. Nothing frightening. In fact, I feel more comfortable with tools like Nandroid built-in so I can always restore my phone if/when I mess something up or install and unstable ROM/theme. I flash almost daily for that reason.
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Sorry for not answering your response as quickly as the first answer. I can't speak for the iPhone but the G1/myTouch (I have both) are a MUST root IMO. I think having total control over the phone and OS is so important. As far as Market, YouTube, etc. they all work. Every app works, as far as I am concerned and I have 225 apps (all paid for if they weren't free) installed. As far as updates are concerned, the devs here are months ahead of Google and TMO. Cyanogen (best ROMs here, IMO, if you aren't into Hero and things like that) already has some Donut stuff in his stable 4.0.1 ROM and adds quite a bit of cool features in his experimental ROMs. You can also add bits from other devs if Cyan doesn't include something you like. Cyan does not include myFaves (I forget why) but it can be added after. Just search around for that. Even without the app on your phone, you can always update them online and still make free calls to your faves. It just won't show on the phone, that is unless you have the "after market" app installed. Hope this helps. And like I said, root is absolutely the way to go. Nothing frightening. In fact, I feel more comfortable with tools like Nandroid built-in so I can always restore my phone if/when I mess something up or install and unstable ROM/theme. I flash almost daily for that reason.
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wow dude you have been a lot of help, I feel a lot more about rooting now (wow you flash almost everyday haha awesome). I think I'm gonna try it tonight haha.
So I wont need to restore to the original shipped state if I ever need to do a warranty claim?
oh yeah so should I flash cyanogen 3.9.X.X or 4.0.1 ( I know 3.9.X.X has some donunt features but its experimental...but is it better?)
so far JACxHero is my fav rom
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so far JACxHero is my fav rom
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really is there a main/any difference between the 2?
i've used cyanogen and its amazing rom but i don't know if its me but JACxHero seems waay more smooth and faster...
and the crazy part is im using a class 2 sd i can only imagine using class 6
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i've used cyanogen and its amazing rom but i don't know if its me but JACxHero seems waay more smooth and faster...
and the crazy part is im using a class 2 sd i can only imagine using class 6
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So it looks like sense ui from the hero? I heard all those roms are slow due to the ram limitation on the mytouch (192mb) vs the hero (288mb)
btw I have a class 2 card too as of right now so that is good to know
JACxHero is not a hero port its a regular cupcake with hero type theme and htc music port try it out have nothing to lose really
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JACxHero is not a hero port its a regular cupcake with hero type theme and htc music port try it out have nothing to lose really
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Yeah I think I will since it is pretty safe to do (especially since aaronranter flashes everyday it has to be lol)
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Yeah I think I will since it is pretty safe to do (especially since aaronranter flashes everyday it has to be lol)
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i have too trust me i went through 8 roms already went right back to JACxHero
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i have too trust me i went through 8 roms already went right back to JACxHero
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WOW lol
So to flash it all I have to do it to do the 1 click root method and flash that rom? (not sure where to get it btw)
How about when i want to change roms what do I do?
do I do a nandroid backup every time i switch roms?
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WOW lol
So to flash it all I have to do it to do the 1 click root method and flash that rom? (not sure where to get it btw)
How about when i want to change roms what do I do?
do I do a nandroid backup every time i switch roms?
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I am a noob, but if you use search option you will find out that JacHero needs latest Radio and SPL which is 2005. One click method doesnt change it. I still have 2006, "perfect".
you can always use the old method just follow the instructions step by step don't feel discourage ... but you must and i repeat follow each step ... one... by ..one
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I am a noob, but if you use search option you will find out that JacHero needs latest Radio and SPL which is 2005. One click method doesnt change it. I still have 2006, "perfect".
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Ah thanks for the info. I think i'll flash with cyanogen's rom since I currently don't have another micro sd card to do the old method
Development has been integrated with the new rootfs.
Please see the thread here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=584707
New version coming soon:
Version 2.3 info:
-Newer simplified setup, whether you use a partition or not you will use the same files;
- fixed copying issues that were stopping some Donut builds from working. All builds should now work file.
-there are no additional files unlike previous builds.
- support for a data partition as well.
- supports all phones that the rootfs is supporting, kaiser vogue diamond etc.
Version 2.2 info;
updated for better data file backup naming.
updated to support donut
updated to support wifi (thanks enate for this)
Version 2 info;
On boot it will prompt you to boot the new recovery image, if you press a key it will load the recovery image, (the first boot you must do this to install the system) if not it will boot as normal.
If you have a system.sqsh on your sd card it will prompt you to install to your ext2 partition
- after installing the system it will move it to /sdcard/installedsystem/installedsystem.sqsh
- it will move your data file to /sdcard/datafilebackup/data$date
and create a new one. After the inital boot you can reboot and copy back your data file again.
There is one caveat that was pointed out to me today. Do not change systems twice in one day unless you don't care about your data. Because it creates the data file based on date it will overwright the old one.
Why not data to? Well our current data.img solution is awesome for backing it up.
What's coming;
Native support for update.zip's from the dream themes forum.
Menu support with several different usefull options for setting up android (this is proving to be tough but I'm working on it)
here it is!
http://code.google.com/p/vogue-andr...name=recoverfiles2.2.rar&can=2&q=#makechanges
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Hey guys, I've got something new coming for vogue android, I need 2 people with VOGUES's only to test something for me.
Requirements; linux install, vogue only, be able to provide bug reports, be serious!
pm me; I'm hoping to have testing ready by the end of the day.
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sure
have linux and vogue pmed you. dang, guess i didnt pm you in time...
I don't know what this is, but you've sure got me curious as hell.
If you need another tester, let me know.
Well looks like I'm not in the closed beta, but I'm looking forward to this with great excitement. With the loss of Zen, it's good to have you back and active on this stuff again. This wouldn't happen to be Android running natively on our little wonder-units would it?
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Well looks like I'm not in the closed beta, but I'm looking forward to this with great excitement. With the loss of Zen, it's good to have you back and active on this stuff again. This wouldn't happen to be Android running natively on our little wonder-units would it?
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Technically, Android doesnt run "native" on any device. You don't have to port a device to android..just the linux kernel to get api's to work. I know your refering to booting android on our faster but much smaller enternal flash but the speed difference would be minimal and we would be confinded to smaller builds. I think it has to do with a memory limitation in android from the dalvik vm it uses. I'm not 100% sure on what im talking about but this is the impression ive had for android for a while. Please enlighten me if I have missed something..
posting in epic thread
stickus said:
Well looks like I'm not in the closed beta, but I'm looking forward to this with great excitement. With the loss of Zen, it's good to have you back and active on this stuff again. This wouldn't happen to be Android running natively on our little wonder-units would it?
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It's been stated before and I'll state it again, the speed of the nand (internal memory) on the vogue is very slow. Making android boot from the nand would be a step backwards... What I'm hoping I've got it a step forwards
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It's been stated before and I'll state it again, the speed of the nand (internal memory) on the vogue is very slow. Making android boot from the nand would be a step backwards... What I'm hoping I've got it a step forwards
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Interesting.
I really don't understand why the internal NAND is so slow. Windows Mobile runs just fine from NAND, so why would running Android from it be any different?
Alternatively, it seems that a flashable Android would be much more convenient, and permanent.
I'm very curious to know what you're working on, mssmison.
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Interesting.
I really don't understand why the internal NAND is so slow. Windows Mobile runs just fine from NAND, so why would running Android from it be any different?
Alternatively, it seems that a flashable Android would be much more convenient, and permanent.
I'm very curious to know what you're working on, mssmison.
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Duel booting would a better option in my opinion..wm is just a better mini PC OS(Windows) and Android is a better phone/internet OS . This makes our devices even more versitle then phones just running android. I dont get how just having android would makes things better..since we just manually boot android instead of it booting once the phones is turned on...how about a linux bootloader that launches before wm does..and a graphical UI to choose from the two OS's
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Duel booting would a better option in my opinion..wm is just a better mini PC OS(Windows) and Android is a better phone/internet OS . This makes our devices even more versitle then phones just running android. I dont get how just having android would makes things better..since we just manually boot android instead of it booting once the phones is turned on...how about a linux bootloader that launches before wm does..and a graphical UI to choose from the two OS's
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My understanding is that there isn't enough room to dual-boot both WinMo and Android from the NAND on the Vogue.
You could possibly put the bootloader in NAND and run WinMo and Android from storage, but that sorta defeats the purpose.
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It's been stated before and I'll state it again, the speed of the nand (internal memory) on the vogue is very slow. Making android boot from the nand would be a step backwards... What I'm hoping I've got it a step forwards
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Sounds delicious.
UHHHHHH
Well this sounds cool, Nice to see that you are back......CANT WAIT......
DROID FOR LIFE
Freezell said:
Well this sounds cool, Nice to see that you are back......CANT WAIT......
DROID FOR LIFE
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I never left.. I was just working in the background
what's the harm in saying what's being worked on?
bug666 said:
what's the harm in saying what's being worked on?
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Suspense is just too much fun....?
If all goes well I should have something tomorrow night for everyone.
hintttttttttttt lol
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If all goes well I should have something tomorrow night for everyone.
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Is it gonna require serious work to do, like flashing a rom? Or still just files on an SDCard, just in a different way?
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Is it gonna require serious work to do, like flashing a rom? Or still just files on an SDCard, just in a different way?
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lol, i've been working on stuff in the background too. haha.
but anyways, i was like wtf, this is a total bs thread, then i saw your name everywhere. haha. so i guess it's not.
good to see a vogue developer still around!!
I'm working on getting another one so I can mess with the vogue again. it's a fun phone.
Well I recently sold a mytouch 3g to my gf's friend that I rooted in the past (was a friend's phone who I bought from because he needed money) and it currently has CM 5.0.8 installed. She told me today that it has been running really slow lately no matter how many times she reboots and such. I told her I would look into possibly installing a different CFW for her that was more stable. Problem is, there are a ton of options to choose from and I have been out of the G1/MyTouch scene for a while.
Basically, she wants the phone to be stable and pretty quick. She doesn't need a lot of features or stuff that still has bugs to be worked out. I let her know I could unroot it and put 1.6 on there if we couldn't figure something out and she wouldn't be against that. Can anybody recommend a ROM that is very stable and quick besides the stock firmware? Doesn't matter if it's a 1.6, 2.0, etc. version.
Any help is appreciated, thanks!
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Well I recently sold a mytouch 3g to my gf's friend that I rooted in the past (was a friend's phone who I bought from because he needed money) and it currently has CM 5.0.8 installed. She told me today that it has been running really slow lately no matter how many times she reboots and such. I told her I would look into possibly installing a different CFW for her that was more stable. Problem is, there are a ton of options to choose from and I have been out of the G1/MyTouch scene for a while.
Basically, she wants the phone to be stable and pretty quick. She doesn't need a lot of features or stuff that still has bugs to be worked out. I let her know I could unroot it and put 1.6 on there if we couldn't figure something out and she wouldn't be against that. Can anybody recommend a ROM that is very stable and quick besides the stock firmware? Doesn't matter if it's a 1.6, 2.0, etc. version.
Any help is appreciated, thanks!
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Super D 1.11 is a fast/stable as you could go.... CM6 is amazingly fast but it's still in release candidate mode and an android novice might not be able to handle the flaws (if you can find some) in it. CM6 could beat it if it continues in the path in going in...
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Super D 1.11 is a fast/stable as you could go.... CM6 is amazingly fast but it's still in release candidate mode and an android novice might not be able to handle the flaws (if you can find some) in it. CM6 could beat it if it continues in the path in going in...
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Yeah, CM was always the way to go for stability when I had my G1 a while back. That's why I threw 5.0.8 on the phone before giving it to her, but she said it's been really slow lately. I don't want to borrow the phone from her or anything to troubleshoot, that's why I'd rather find a known stable ROM and just flash that on there and be good.
I'll download that one and give it a try on her phone, thanks!
I noticed that the SuperD ROM says to have the sd card partitioned, is that a requirement for the ROM or no? Currently the card is not partitioned and if I could avoid doing that, that would be great. I'm going to be doing the flash at work and don't have a way to back up what's on the card already to partition it.
No it's not needed but if you plan on having things like Apps2SD or swap then yes.
Yeah I don't think she needs anything like that. Thanks for the help!
This is a good thread. I just rooted my friends g1 and put CM6 on there. I have been checking to see what the most stable Roms are..
I remember I would eventually start having issues with whatever ROM, so I would go back to a totally stock + rooted 1.6. If my friends doesn't like his CM6 I am going to put stock 1.6 with root access. Add wifi tether and add overclock/ setCPU. For functionality, that is a great way to go if you don't mind the old school look.
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Super D 1.11 is a fast/stable as you could go....
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If you're going with SuperD (as you should IMHO), I'd use 1.9.3 or 1.7/1.8. The last two had some issues with installing apps - 1.11 in particular would occasionally FC newly installed apps until you ran fix_permissions. Not a deal-breaker, since it seemed stable otherwise but just a pain.
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If you're going with SuperD (as you should IMHO), I'd use 1.9.3 or 1.7/1.8. The last two had some issues with installing apps - 1.11 in particular would occasionally FC newly installed apps until you ran fix_permissions. Not a deal-breaker, since it seemed stable otherwise but just a pain.
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Yeah I installed the 1.11 version today and was not a fan of the launchers included and it started dragging it's feet after about 5 min of messing with it. Does the 1.9.3 have the stock, translucent launcher that you can drag upwards?
giv a try
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=678252
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Super D 1.11 is a fast/stable as you could go.... CM6 is amazingly fast but it's still in release candidate mode and an android novice might not be able to handle the flaws (if you can find some) in it. CM6 could beat it if it continues in the path in going in...
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CM6 fast? What planet are you on? CM6 is DEAD SLOW.
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Yeah I installed the 1.11 version today and was not a fan of the launchers included and it started dragging it's feet after about 5 min of messing with it. Does the 1.9.3 have the stock, translucent launcher that you can drag upwards?
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If my memory serves, it is one of the stock launchers.
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CM6 fast? What planet are you on? CM6 is DEAD SLOW.
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i find Cy6 to be much faster than Cy5 (fastest rom i've ran since super d) my only issue is random force closes on market.
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CM6 fast? What planet are you on? CM6 is DEAD SLOW.
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I find CM6 to definitely be more then decent but hey, to each his own...
I want to ask if we can get wm7 in HD2
after week, month
Please can you answer me Is it possible to run wm7 in HD2
And when we can get
and What is the difficulty of it
Thank you
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I want to ask if we can get wm7 in HD2
after week, month
Please can you answer me Is it possible to run wm7 in HD2
And when we can get
and What is the difficulty of it
Thank you
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Unfortunately not and probably not for the foreseable future. Everyone is still waiting for NAND Android which appartantly was beleived that a fully working NAND ROM would be released near the end of September. Looks as tho its taking alot longer than they thought it would. However Android seem to be the main focus and not much is known about the development of WP7 on the HD2 apart from somebody has done it but it can't be released yet probably not much is working on it so just keep looking out every week or so as It won't be out anytime soon
why would you want it? it is inferior to WinMo 6.5 in most key areas
1. tethering (while it does support it, most of if not all of the harware is locked so the functionality is not exposed)
2. copy paste (yeah yeah we hear it's coming but it should have been there from the get go)
3. functionality as removable storage is not present nor is it supported by wp7 if you hack it to work (requires a hack on eacj host PC you connect the phone to)
4. UI customizing (WTF were they thinking?)
5. multi tasking for third party apps (they have appearantly reversed decisions on this)
6. BT functionality is limited.
No.
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anhyeuemmaimai said:
why would you want it? it is inferior to WinMo 6.5 in most key areas
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for me, cause i want a fast and stable system (sense isnt this rock stable and standard ui gives me not enough informations)...
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1. tethering (while it does support it, most of if not all of the harware is locked so the functionality is not exposed)
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never needed
anhyeuemmaimai said:
2. copy paste (yeah yeah we hear it's coming but it should have been there from the get go)
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i used it a couple of times and it was always hard bull
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3. functionality as removable storage is not present nor is it supported by wp7 if you hack it to work (requires a hack on eacj host PC you connect the phone to)
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pain in the ass...realy, hope ms will support this in future....but the main thing i need this, the media player didnt support playback my folder structure...so i dont care
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4. UI customizing (WTF were they thinking?)
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dont care
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5. multi tasking for third party apps (they have appearantly reversed decisions on this)
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dont care
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6. BT functionality is limited.
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dont care
0711 said:
for me, cause i want a fast and stable system (sense isnt this rock stable and standard ui gives me not enough informations)...
never needed
i used it a couple of times and it was always hard bull
pain in the ass...realy, hope ms will support this in future....but the main thing i need this, the media player didnt support playback my folder structure...so i dont care
dont care
dont care
dont care
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tHUS,
We DONT CARE
0711 said:
for me, cause i want a fast and stable system (sense isnt this rock stable and standard ui gives me not enough informations)...
never needed
i used it a couple of times and it was always hard bull
pain in the ass...realy, hope ms will support this in future....but the main thing i need this, the media player didnt support playback my folder structure...so i dont care
dont care
dont care
dont care
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Firstly visit www.htc.com and make sure you're running the latest ROM.
Then install SPB Mobile Shell 3.5, it's available via the MS market place as a free trial.
Also install S2P, it's a great music player which you can direct to monitor specific folders rather than adding every mp3 on your phone. Also re-size or replace your album art to 480x480 as it can take advantage of this.
I've done the above and have a fast, efficient and most importantly, stable Leo.
You can give it a go for no more than what? 30 minutes of your life? Do it next time you're sat on the toilet.
0711 said:
for me, cause i want a fast and stable system (sense isnt this rock stable and standard ui gives me not enough informations)...
never needed
i used it a couple of times and it was always hard bull
pain in the ass...realy, hope ms will support this in future....but the main thing i need this, the media player didnt support playback my folder structure...so i dont care
dont care
dont care
dont care
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fast stable OS? rally? reports are wp7 is slower at launching apps than it's predcessor....
just because you don't need it does not mean it is not a significant shortcoming
you have issues if you can't use copy and paste (you know something that has been a staple of windows since it's inception over 25 years ago)
no way to change the UI to your liking? YAY! I get the same crappy look as everyone else..
Multitasking is essential unless you love having those long delays in WP7 when launching apps over and over again because you are using an app and you get a ph call.... better hope your developer wrote that app correctly so it saves your state......
BT file transfer something from your friend's phone to yours? Opps you are SOL.....
anhyeuemmaimai said:
fast stable OS? rally? reports are wp7 is slower at launching apps than it's predcessor....
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Seriously, forget any report or review you read. Play with it yourself. I was VERY skeptical about WP7 and was utterly overwhelmed by it when I had a go with a HD7 recently. Seriously, it really is the smoothest and fastest UI I've ever seen, and it all makes sense when you're actually using it and not just watching a video.
anhyeuemmaimai said:
Multitasking is essential unless you love having those long delays in WP7 when launching apps over and over again because you are using an app and you get a ph call.... better hope your developer wrote that app correctly so it saves your state......
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That's exactly the point... it's down to the developers to correctly code their apps to save state when required. That means Microsoft have put in place a way to handle multiple applications being used asynchronously.
I cant wait for WP7 to work properly on the HD2 because I really want to start playing the xbox live games on it. But I doubt itll be fast and stable lol, I imagine it will be quite slow and crappy. + very ugly
anhyeuemmaimai said:
why would you want it? it is inferior to WinMo 6.5 in most key areas
1. tethering (while it does support it, most of if not all of the harware is locked so the functionality is not exposed)
2. copy paste (yeah yeah we hear it's coming but it should have been there from the get go)
3. functionality as removable storage is not present nor is it supported by wp7 if you hack it to work (requires a hack on eacj host PC you connect the phone to)
4. UI customizing (WTF were they thinking?)
5. multi tasking for third party apps (they have appearantly reversed decisions on this)
6. BT functionality is limited.
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7. It will rape your SD card. WP7 actually uses the "secure" in secure digital.
Callumpy said:
I cant wait for WP7 to work properly on the HD2 because I really want to start playing the xbox live games on it. But I doubt itll be fast and stable lol, I imagine it will be quite slow and crappy. + very ugly
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Don't hold your breath for any of those features seen as WP7 has a private key which bonds the hardware and software so i can't see the HD2 ever accessing any of the main features of WP7 (online anyway).
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Seriously, forget any report or review you read. Play with it yourself. I was VERY skeptical about WP7 and was utterly overwhelmed by it when I had a go with a HD7 recently. Seriously, it really is the smoothest and fastest UI I've ever seen, and it all makes sense when you're actually using it and not just watching a video.
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I've posted about it before, I wouldn't say I found it slow, more long winded.
Rather than opening the apps instantly it seemed to want to make a song and dance about everything when really I just wanted to get going.
The HTC hub and weather for instance takes it to the extreme (not recomended for people who suffer travel sickness!)
Ok it's not "go away and make a cuppa" time (or go away and read War and Peace like when a BB reboots), but I did find it frustrating. It may indeed be quicker than on the HD2, but it certainly didn't feel it.
I kept wanting to open task manager to see how many apps were running and slowing it down.
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I've posted about it before, I wouldn't say I found it slow, more long winded.
Rather than opening the apps instantly it seemed to want to make a song and dance about everything when really I just wanted to get going.
The HTC hub and weather for instance takes it to the extreme (not recomended for people who suffer travel sickness!)
Ok it's not "go away and make a cuppa" time (or go away and read War and Peace like when a BB reboots), but I did find it frustrating. It may indeed be quicker than on the HD2, but it certainly didn't feel it.
I kept wanting to open task manager to see how many apps were running and slowing it down.
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Yeah, I do agree that a lot goes on when you run something. There's always some transition or other taking place, and I can see that this would annoy some people instantly, and everyone else eventually. I didn't dig around looking for any customisation options for the UI, so I don't know if it can be tidied up in any way (like Android's animation options in display settings).
The HTC stuff was way more excessive than just regular apps though. Totally!
H3ALY said:
Don't hold your breath for any of those features seen as WP7 has a private key which bonds the hardware and software so i can't see the HD2 ever accessing any of the main features of WP7 (online anyway).
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Holy crap, that sucks. Time to save up for a HD7 then.
This thread makes good points. I can now say I can wait for WP7.
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H3ALY said:
Don't hold your breath for any of those features seen as WP7 has a private key which bonds the hardware and software so i can't see the HD2 ever accessing any of the main features of WP7 (online anyway).
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If you can jailbreak an iphone something similar will appear for this. I have high hopes for the future of this but probably won't have picked up enough for me to want it until next december when my contract finally ends lol
Jammie_1989 said:
If you can jailbreak an iphone something similar will appear for this. I have high hopes for the future of this but probably won't have picked up enough for me to want it until next december when my contract finally ends lol
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Think of it like xbox live on the 360 with the hacked firmwares. The chefs can do as much as they like to keep spoofing the phones so users will be able to use Zune, Windows Live, Xbox Live and other cloud services but either way Microsoft are not stupid and will keep putting a stop to it it will be short lived attempts. I would like WP7 on my HD2 myself but you have to be realistic MS have worked on a new OS and they will want to protect their new investment. IF WP7 is ported i'm pretty sure we wont have the online features for long and if anything WP7 on the HD2 will be more of a ZUNE player (offline). Don't compare the iPhone to the HD2 the iPhone is jailbroken to make use of the features it "has" this is a totally different kettle of fish porting an OS then expecting full features.
about the online cloud service, i think it is too early to say it can not be unlocked.
MS always do not want other people to crack the system. but, as you can see, windows 7 has been cracked perfectly.
just give developers more time to do their work. time will come
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about the online cloud service, i think it is too early to say it can not be unlocked.
MS always do not want other people to crack the system. but, as you can see, windows 7 has been cracked perfectly.
just give developers more time to do their work. time will come
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How is a desktop/Laptop/Netbook/Tablet operating system anything like an OS for a smartphone that is locked to hardware and tied with a private key to the software. I've not said they won't get it running no doubt they will get the OS to run but the key features probally not be something that will be avaliable (online).
Ok, so Ubuntu and now Debian can run on HD2. It's great, it's amazing but is it any use?
Why would you need a software designed for a pc to work on a device with less than 4 ro 5 times the screen size and with so less buttons?
I am by no means going against this, I am just thinking what use could this be.
No tomatoes please.
1. Make your phone cooler
2. You have a new "computer"
PC in a pocket. there are things that a full desktop environment can do, that a mobile one cannot. there are tools available to desktop PC's that haven't been ported to mobile ones for lack of necessity.
personally i do a lot of side job computer repair for friends and such, and it would be a lot nicer to have my phone double as a laptop, rather than carry around my actual laptop wherever i go. of course i dont always need my laptop when i do repairs, but sometimes i do for one reason or another.
so having a much more mobile and lightweight alternative to that is a very big bonus. and of course like the previous post.... it it pretty fun to show off ;-)
Uhh dude, why not? Why put a differnet rom on a phone, because its Great to do that and give ya a good feeling about it, even beter if you can make one.
Same here, its cool, its something else, its sweet.
ofcourse, doing things directly to the phone is way more trouble than having a laptop but you can leave some automatizations like 1click script to have your ssh or ftp server. or just place a test http site to show to your client on its own pc and you have it ready on the go. there are millions of posibilities. is up to you how far you can go.
Well, I can only really think of one application fire me. I work at subway and my boss wants us to take courses at subway university, which is online. But they aren't supported by my mobile browser, so having a quick ubuntu desktop on my phone would provide the advantage to study when I'm not at home. But other than that, ubuntu is just awesome!
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It's more advanced in many aspects, though it could be annoying sometimes
Ok, but why?
Because we can
Because HD2 is King.....
And a King can have any number of queens....
If you have to ask this question ("why"), then u really don't get xda-developer
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You could run it as a Server. Strong processor, very little power consumption.
For example.
you forget one thing. you're not forced to put it on the device!
No one is forcing you to change to android or install WP7. yet you might go for them because they offer you more eye candy, applications, or just because you want to.
and that's what people here are doing. simply one more option for people who need a portable PC OS, for fun, or because they need it.
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Because HD2 is King.....
And a King can have any number of queens....
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+1, HD2 is king of kings
hopkinskong said:
1. Make your phone cooler
2. You have a new "computer"
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That's intersting, but i want know, it's the "computer" everything worked fine!
Because if i can't used it make a call,or send msm, that's too bad.
bu the way, how can i get it? thanks!
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because hd2 is king.....
And a king can have any number of queens....
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国王可以有任意数量的皇后~哈哈,x:d
I like ubuntu on my home computer, but its a little awkward on my hd2... still, its so awesome to be able to do so many things with the hd2!!!
You can use it as a server, very very very low consumption. It did the trick for me (mail + web, very light, very fast!)
michael.hu said:
That's intersting, but i want know, it's the "computer" everything worked fine!
Because if i can't used it make a call,or send msm, that's too bad.
bu the way, how can i get it? thanks!
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You don't make phone calls with a computer do you.
I think the most attracting part is to plug in some keyboard and mouse, fire up some commands through terminal over the mobile network -- A dream machine!!!
WHY!? Cause you can. why do some people have like 10 hauses, 50 cars, 5 boats... 2 planes. cause they can. thats why android, wm6.1, wm 6.5.x, mwp7,7.5, ubuntu... cause we can