Does anyone know if it will? If it doesn't i will be pretty annoyed.
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Supposed to be confirmed for that date
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Where are you seeing that this is a confirmed date for the WiFi only release?
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According to what? Nobody has said that for the wifi version, only the 3g. Nothing for US release yet.
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[speculation] yes it should be released at the same time as the 3/4g version.. [/speculation]
Just what it says on the Google responses, just specualtion I would imagine. Its "supposed " to be released that date or that's what sources are saying
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No source has said it except people like you and me. It was only announced a few days ago and has not shown up in any ads.
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Here's some interesting reading:
https://supportforums.motorola.com/thread/44943?start=15&tstart=0
I particularly loved this post:
If you've been following any of the numerous blogs and news stories about the XOOM and its pricing around the internet, you'll noticed that there are a lot more 'neutral' buyers out there than there are pure fanboys. In that I'm saying that there are those people who will only buy Apple products and loathe anything Android, and on the other side there are Android fans who want to see Apple eat dust in the wake of Android's tablet dominance (which is looking less likely now.) But, in between these two groups is a much larger group of people who couldn't care less about the OS or the company and will buy according to two things.
1. The value (Price):
Let's face it. We're in an economic slump, and price will win out over features and OS. This means people are going to be more willing to buy a $499-$599 tablet with WiFi only over an $800 tablet that requres a $20 data plan and a $35 activation fee. The iPad proved this by itself before any other tablets were even dreamt of. The WiFi only iPad is by far the most popular version.
2. Reputation:
The neutral buyers in the market for a tablet know what an iPad is, what it does, and how much it costs. It's been out for a year, and it's been a huge success. They also know that the iPad 2 is on its way and that it will probably have the same price points. On the other hand, the XOOM is a new tablet by a manufacturer who has only proven itself in the smartphone market. Tablets are a new venture for them, and they haven't proven themselves like Apple has. The OS might be slick, but it's also unproven. iOS was successful because people had already been using it on their iPhones for a long time. Honeycomb is essentially Android, and it's slick, but it's still unproven.
That being said, everyone was excited about the XOOM at CES and those neutral buyers were drooling over it and ready to give it a chance over the iPad. Now, Motorola has struck out.
Strike 1: Price
$800 is a lot for a tablet, and most people (obviously) aren't willing to pay that much. I won't argue that it's not comparable to the iPad. It is...To the 32GB 3G version, which leads me to...
Strike 2: Veriety (I'm not talking colors like red...)
Releasing the most expensive version of the tablet first is a boneheaded move. Apple got it right with their teired pricing, but Motorola is trying to shove an $800 tablet down consumers throats when the majority of the market was expecting a more affordable option. It's fine to have a 3G version at $800, but it's not fine to piss on those that make up the largest portion of your potential buyers by not offering a WiFi only version for under $600. This gives way to...
Strike 3: Data Carriers
This is a big turn off for even those willing to pay $800. There's not many people who want to pay a data plan every month. It's nice to have that option, and I'm glad Verizon is doing it on a month to month basis instead of a 2 year contract, but to force people to pay $20 for a month of data plus a $35 activation fee on top of $800 plus tax is ridiculous. Going back to Strike 2, many people want a WiF only version because they are casual users who just want something to use around the house or over at Panera Bread on a lunch break, and there are others who just don't want to be tied to another carrier fee or don't want to give Verizon any of their business.
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we will see everything we need to see this sunday
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we will see everything we need to see this sunday
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My thoughts too, sunday ads
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we will see everything we need to see this sunday
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Well I signed up at motorola.com/xoom to receive updates and they claim you will be the first to know anything but you know how that goes. May want to try that as well just in case.
can you preorder @ best buy over the phone?
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can you preorder @ best buy over the phone?
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I don't think they can take credit cards over the phone in store. But its probably something you could call them and ask
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Looks like Motorola's decision to lock the bootloader is coming back to bite them in the ass. That's what they get for turning their backs on the developement community. It was the developement community that made the original Droid such a success but Motorola is too stupid to realise it.
http://blogs.forbes.com/ericsavitz/...lity-xoom-atrix-both-duds-pacific-crest-says/
I highly doubt the locked bootloader has much to do with it.. Only a small percentage of consumers know what a bootloader is.. All manufacturers are going to be locking down their phones.. HTC did with the Thunderbolt and it's doing very well.. I think it has more to do with price anyway.. That article mentions the XOOM too and its unlockable, but way out when it comes to price point..
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Don't underestimate the importance of the developement community. The Atrix is priced competetively at $199 with deals as low as$ 125. The Thunderbolt bootloader was cracked a long time ago wasn't it?
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go ask samsung how well the nexus s was selling lol
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Don't underestimate the importance of the developement community. The Atrix is priced competetively at $199 with deals as low as$ 125. The Thunderbolt bootloader was cracked a long time ago wasn't it?
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not locked to the same level. HTC is just starting to lock down it's devices.
This has pretty much nothing to do with the bootloader and everything to do with usage and price.
The specs on the Atrix are awesome, but they are also far beyond what a normal consumer needs at this point so they aren't really taken into consideration.
The Inspire is a great phone that performs really well. When you hold and use both phones in the store, and you aren't a tech geek, it becomes hard to justify spending an extra $100 on the Atrix.
This isn't even taking into account a cheap iPhone 3G at $50, or any of the other smartphones that run well and cost quite a bit less.
I'd be interested to know if the analyst quoted in the article actually used the word "dud", or if the reporter used it as his interpretation of what the analyst said. And saying that a product's sales are “well below forecast” isn't particularly meaningful without knowing what the forecast was, just like a company claiming that sales "far exceeded expectations."
Nevertheless, I agree that Atrix sales are undoubtedly being hurt by the lower subsidized price of the HTC Inspire. Heck, the Atrix is priced the same as the 16GB iPhone 4. That's tough competition. I wouldn't be surprised if the Atrix price goes down to $99 in the not too distant future.
I think Moto's biggest marketing mistake with the Atrix was touting it with the laptop dock, rather than as a standalone kick-ass phone.
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I'd be interested to know if the analyst quoted in the article actually used the word "dud", or if the reporter used it as his interpretation of what the analyst said. And saying that a product's sales are “well below forecast” isn't particularly meaningful without knowing what the forecast was, just like a company claiming that sales "far exceeded expectations."
Nevertheless, I agree that Atrix sales are undoubtedly being hurt by the lower subsidized price of the HTC Inspire. Heck, the Atrix is priced the same as the 16GB iPhone 4. That's tough competition. I wouldn't be surprised if the Atrix price goes down to $99 in the not too distant future.
I think Moto's biggest marketing mistake with the Atrix was touting it with the laptop dock, rather than as a standalone kick-ass phone.
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Exactly people don't know about its ability as a phone alone.
I also agree with the OP. The dev community made the droid strong. This is what motorola deserves for locking the bootloader.
I think the best thing i've seen said about it in a review (which i think was just a Youtube review or something) was that it's basically the only future-proof phone on the market right now.... namely because of the dual core CPU.
Dud? I doubt it. Yea.... it doesn't sell as well as some phones.... but then again.... not everybody buys their phone because there's a piece of fruit on the back and a media player OS on the inside.
And no.... the idea of the locked bootloader would not be a deal-breaker. As it's been said... the majority of people don't even know what the bootloader is. Yea.... it may seem like a big deal if you're browsing around in tech community forums... but not so much in the real world or other forums. Take for instance a quick google search for "jailbreak/root poll"... just as an example as to how much the ability to crack your phone matters to people
Neowin.net:
Do you root/jailbreak your device?
Yes = 67 votes
No = 17 votes
Know how to, but don't want to = 9 votes
What is rooting/jailbreaking? = 1 vote
Going by that... you may say that rooting/jailbreaking is a HUGE factor on phone sales.
HomeTheaterLounge.com:
Is your Smartphone rooted/jailbroken?:
Yes = 7
No = 15
Bored and wanted to vote in a poll = 2
Not quite as drastic a result.... but also not nearly as many votes. I mean.... when you have people asking why the iPhone 4 doesn't use the 4G network because from what they understand it's the iPhone 4G.... do you REALLY think that the majority of the country/world is seeing a hackable bootloader as being a major selling point, when the majority could care less about even a simple root/jailbreak?
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Or $24 at CarToys - argh!
Another consideration might be the advertising which presents "it's a phone, or a computer, or a phone" - which probably gets even some non-techies excited. Only to find that for that phone your talking $500 and another $240 per year to tether a dumb device to it ... very unfortunate.
Price the Lapdog (!) right (say $1-150), and do not charge tethering for something which is in no way increasing bandwidth use or enabling a second person to do anything on the data connection - and you might have a lot more takers, techie and otherwise.
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Nevertheless, I agree that Atrix sales are undoubtedly being hurt by the lower subsidized price of the HTC Inspire. Heck, the Atrix is priced the same as the 16GB iPhone 4. That's tough competition. I wouldn't be surprised if the Atrix price goes down to $99 in the not too distant future.
I think Moto's biggest marketing mistake with the Atrix was touting it with the laptop dock, rather than as a standalone kick-ass phone.
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Well Its already $99 at amazon wireless.
Yeah, I'd really like the reason for low sales to be the bootloader... but I honestly doubt that very much. The phone is really a great value at $200, by itself, but few people understand how much better it performs than the iPhone 4 because it is not marketed as a stand-alone device. The laptop dock is far too expensive for the average end user, and tethering charges are high as well as unwarranted.
Also, I think its presence on AT&T hurts Motorola a great deal. Most AT&T customers naturally equate "smartphone" with "iPhone", and see Android devices as mere iPhone wannabes. I would expect more of the Bionic on Verizon, though the lack of early hype for the Atrix won't help any. And naturally, if I were on Verizon, I'd be pretty pissed to be offered only half the RAM.
Lol 10 to one odds The author Eric savitz is on xda
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It seems like a decent Android phone (IMHO). I'm waiting for Gingerbread to get to the device. I might be waiting a while, but it would be a better user experience with that version of the software.
Is it a Dud? Don't think so having owned 3 Android phones (first with MotoBlur though).
best dud ive ever had
Yep.... even better dud than my previous phone..... you know.... one of those phones with some fruit on the back...... and commonly mistaken for a 4G-capable phone....
Yeah. I spent an hour the other night trying to convince the guy with the fruit phone that it did not/could not use the ATT 4G network. I finally gave up.
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Yeah. I spent an hour the other night trying to convince the guy with the fruit phone that it did not/could not use the ATT 4G network. I finally gave up.
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Coulda settled that with one word. Specifications. TADA! lol
Just a quick question what is all this talk about tethering charges?? Is this an American thing??? I have an AT&T atrix unlocked to Rogers using a laptop dock I bought from the source (in Canada) I am able to use the LTD without getting g charged for tethering... in fact I don't even understand why that would be considered tethering there is not supposed to be any internal components in the LTD except the extra battery so what are you tethering ??? The display??? Makes no sense...
Just read an article online & it said sprint takes big risks to buy 20 billion worth of iPhone in next 4 years but that they are going to get the iPhone 5 while At&t & Verizon get iPhone 4s then I think they get the 5 early 2012!! I think Sprint crazy to put up that much they should of did maybe 10&?$billion & use the other 10billion to build out there 4g lte to get it out to people faster!!! What you guys think
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Oh dude, people will be so pissed if this is true... most people in my area hate sprint because of how crappy the service is while I cling tightly to my unlimited data despite its constant slowness.
It makes sense as to why sprint would do this and I do see this bringing in a good rush of customers, but to bank so much money on exclusivity for a few months seems like a gamble to me.
Time will tell though, its not like we have to wait that long to find out...
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its not going to be exclusive, that is just to get apple to join sprint, like said it will buy 20billion worth of iphones in the next 4 years so its just to get apple to get in bed with sprint, not exclusive
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http://www.engadget.com/2011/10/03/sprint-places-20-billion-order-for-next-iphone-hinges-company/
That a ton of mula sprint why that much? I looked online read & posted about it I think sprint should of not spent that much if apple didn't want to give them the iPhone 5 then sprint should of told them f u & spend there $ on building out there 4g LTE & Try & get the Nexus Prime as early as they could & then tell Samsung that when they make the new Galaxy S3 instead of having the. U.S.A get the phone last like we did the S2 Epic Touch . Sprint pays a little more to get it first!
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That a ton of mula sprint why that much? I looked online read & posted about it I think sprint should of not spent that much if apple didn't want to give them the iPhone 5 then sprint should of told them f u & spend there $ on building out there 4g LTE & Try & get the Nexus Prime as early as they could & then tell Samsung that when they make the new Galaxy S3 instead of having the. U.S.A get the phone last like we did the S2 Epic Touch . Sprint pays a little more to get it first!
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not like theyre giving the money away, they going to sell the phone and make a profit/add customers with this... as we've seen iphones sell... sprint wants more things that sell to make more money...
I think this would be good, in coming customers who wish to have an iphone with a network you don't have to worry about usage, whih is what a lot of new apple users are looking for. Ease of use and no issues, well I don't necessarily agree with that. but being how well apple helped verizon I think it could actually help sprint add to their network and net worth.
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I hope they sell a lot but I want the Nexus Prime to sell like 2 it 3 million more!!! I hope Sprint sells a lot I don't want them to lose $$ cuz it can hurt there biz & hurt us in long run unless Google buys them
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Hopefully, Sprint gets an exclusive on a Wimax-enabled iPhone 5 starting this month while the other carriers have to wait for an LTE-enabled iPhone 5 in early 2012.
This is great for Apple, but not so much for Sprint. Apparently they haven't seen how Android sales numbers are trending against Apple. $20BB is a lot to gamble on another company -- especially when you are hoping that every future phone the make will continue to be a hit, even with their decreasing market share.... Kinda late to be a fanboy, but oh well.
If this is true. Then many will jump to Sprint. Will the network handle it?!?
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Android phones are better in my option; however, there is a large number of people that need a Fisher-Price type phone. These people cannot be allowed to have unlimited options. They are people that cannot understand words like; root, rom or even kernel when applied to a cell phone. For this demographic Apple creates the best "Fisher-Price" phone. Sheepeople are told this is the way your phone works, these are your only apps and you will be happy.
Sprint should be able to greatly increase its customers with the addition of this "phone." The only downside is when you are trying to contact customer service about a real issue; you will have to wait on hold while someone is told "open the box. The box your phone came in. The black and yellow box with Sprint and iPhone on it. You have to take the phone out of the box to make a call......"
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Sprint should be able to greatly increase its customers with the addition of this "phone." The only downside is when you are trying to contact customer service about a real issue; you will have to wait on hold while someone is told "open the box. The box your phone came in. The black and yellow box with Sprint and iPhone on it. You have to take the phone out of the box to make a call......"
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LMFAO!!!
The way people use data on their iPhones, we're bound to be heading for tiered data plans. Seriously though Sprint with so many other places to stuff your money you choose apple? Why not invest in your ever so slow network. Especially since they aren't going to see a profit from doing this until 2013.(no exaggeration)
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How is the way people use data on I phones different from how android users use data?
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How is the way people use data on I phones different from how android users use data?
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To quote my friend " I fell asleep with pandora running on my iphone overnight now my bills gonna be huge" lol
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To quote my friend " I fell asleep with pandora running on my iphone overnight now my bills gonna be huge" lol
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As an irrelevant side note, pandora only uses about 30-45mb an hour to run. You could run pandora 24x7 for a week before you hit a 5gb cap.
perhaps I'm missing something, but this seems like an awful big gamble to stake on what, for all intents and purposes, has been revealed to be a 16-month old phone brought to a new carrier. I don't see enough differentiation between the 4 and the 4s to warrant the size of this investment. So, either Sprint's banking solely on the name recognition of iPhone or they anticipate a superior device being delivered sooner rather than later.
Great idea. Invest billions in the next greatest thing to hit the market. Oh wait....the iPhone has been around for years and is losing marketshare at a rapid pace and is in litigation wars with just about every other phone manufacturer. Hitching your cart to the wrong horse in my opinion.
Anyone who wants an iPhone already has one. I doubt there are that many people dying to jump on Sprint with the lack of iPhone being the only thing holding them back.
Wow... Sprint is just fail..
WTF did they do with all that money? It is not even exclusive.
What's going on????????
I was lil bit hyped possibility of owning new iPhone exclusively (note: for resell)..
Hmm... fail Sprint... fail...
p.s. also sprint was mentioned for like 2 seconds during apple presentation.
Interesting post from the Moto forums today. This makes perfect sense given the way AT&T has been going the last few months:
"posted 3:08 PM by billsite34
I was at an ATT store this morning inquiring about a laptop dock for my Atrix. They couldn't find it on their website(discontiued), then they said that the original Atrix was at "end of life" as far as ATT was concerned. I take this to mean that ATT will no longer support the Atrix and not push for ICS from Motorola for it!"
https://forums.motorola.com/posts/ae343df67e?post=ae343df67e&start=301
ugh. F motorola.
next phone won't be a motorola. sadly. don't much like any of the other phones.
Sadly I will probably go with a Samsung. If I were to get one tomorrow, it would be the Skyrocket (there's LTE here).
Yeah, I would go back to samsung (skyrocket) I had a captivate before the ATRIX.
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And just because Att will not carry it anymore you think it's the end of the Atrix?
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Eh, get used to it. Buy whatever is the best phone at the time and understand that it will be completely outdated in 6 months.
Oh, and don't buy the hype that the ATT store salesmen sell. Some of them are a little dense.
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Eh, get used to it. Buy whatever is the best phone at the time and understand that it will be completely outdated in 6 months.
Oh, and don't buy the hype that the ATT store salesmen sell. Some of them are a little dense.
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Couldn't agree more. I have a close friend who works at a corporate store and all he says is that they are told to push IPHONEs. I tell him Fkuc you my friend, and then we have drinks.
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Couldn't agree more. I have a close friend who works at a corporate store and all he says is that they are told to push IPHONEs. I tell him Fkuc you my friend, and then we have drinks.
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your friend better be picking up that tab...!
(for being a douche).
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Eh, get used to it. Buy whatever is the best phone at the time and understand that it will be completely outdated in 6 months.
Oh, and don't buy the hype that the ATT store salesmen sell. Some of them are a little dense.
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Its one thing for a carrier to stop selling a phone after that, but if the phone is only supported by the manufacture for 6 months, there is a serious issue. Especially given that a bar has been set for about 2 years by both Apple and Google on Nexus devices, and that 2 years is the length of the average US contract.
I think this is being read into wrong though. AT&T most likely is just no longer selling the OG model, not Motorola discontinuing support.
I have not given up on ICS yet, but I think it is unlikely to come to the Atrix 4G. I realized that when I recognized the Atrix 2 was a cost reduced version of the 4G. My theory is that MOTO marketing f'd up big time when they over priced the Atrix and accessories. The Atrix 2 was doomed because the Atrix name was damaged beyond reclamation.
I don't see any new phone presently available that is significantly better and some worse. Posts like the one that started this thread hasten the day when I say, "enough already" and install cm7/9.
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Following up on myself, I don't understand why Moto won't just say what their plans for the Atrix 4G and ICS are and take the heat and get it over with.
The guys who run the forum at moto remind me of the man who played piano in a cathouse and always claimed he never knew what was going on up stairs.
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Atrix, dead in a year. 3GS going on 3 years. Makes me sick...
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Atrix, dead in a year. 3GS going on 3 years. Makes me sick...
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I'm a little surprised Atrix is getting dropped cause it was such a big deal when it came out. If Apple makes the iPhone 5 with a bigger screen, I'm getting it. Atleast Apple won't drop support for it. That's one of the reasons Android pisses me off. Stop making 200 different Android phones a month, and concentrate more on updates. You've got phones coming out that people forget about in a month.
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so much for a device demoed and praised at CES..
Time Line:
Q1:
CES Jan 2011: Demonstrated and Praised as one of the best devices at that CES.
Feb/March 2011: Launched
Q3:
GB update
Q4:
Still GB updates
end of Q4:
EOL
im not purchasing any moto devices on older OS anymore..
should have not purchased Froyo atrix while GB was around and shall not purchase GB Razr when ICS is around..
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I still do not regret purchase of atrix; thankful to QUALITY of dev support it is receiving. Even pre-Betas for atrix are more stable than final releases of my older devices (captivate and vibrant)
But for a general user who wouldnot think of anything beyond rooting...this is kind of abuse :-/
Guys its not MOTO. ATT has final say on all updates for its phones. Only way around it is the Icrap and A Nexus.
Once Google slows the OS updates down to once maybe twice a year like they plan it will be less of a prob
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Guys its not MOTO. ATT has final say on all updates for its phones. Only way around it is the Icrap and A Nexus.
Once Google slows the OS updates down to once maybe twice a year like they plan it will be less of a prob
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ATT is not the only vendor but looking at the update history so far, it would be too late to expect ICS for atrix considering delay in GB update.
I believe the statement this guy posted is true regarding the Atrix 4G and AT&T. If you look on the AT&T website you cannot buy the laptop dock anymore on either the regular store or the premier store. AT&T previously told me that when an item is removed from there instead of being marked "out of stock", it's gone for good. AT&T is selling off Atrix accessories, and I do believe they are done with the Atrix. Will they still sell it?...............sure, until the stock is depleted.............will it still be around for a long time?.............sure............the refurbs will be going round and round for years to come.
What is perturbing is that this phone lasted a measly 6 months or so, as was already stated. Nobody disputes that phones come and go, new models are released, etc.............what is messed up is that people who purchased "the most powerful cell phone on the planet" were lied to about the specs by both AT&T and Moto, one case in point being 1080p recording which we never got, and have suffered lack luster support from both entities.
I love my Atrix, and will keep it as long as devs are putting out new ROM's, etc., but I am up for an upgrade again in less than 2 months, and will look for something with more support. Unfortunately I am stuck with AT&T for the time being because I have a family plan with 5 phones on it, and who would pay early termination on 5 phones?
This is my 4th Android phone. Like someone else said, 3gs was supported for least 3 years. I think I want to try an apple phone next. We shouldn't have to rely on outside people/unofficial support for the next version of Android.
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This is my 4th Android phone. Like someone else said, 3gs was supported for least 3 years. I think I want to try an apple phone next. We shouldn't have to rely on outside people/unofficial support for the next version of Android.
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With all the law suits apple is winning, they will have the only phones anyways. Haha
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The reason they push a new product every 6 months or so is reflected on the attitudes of most android forums; never satisfied, always desiring something more from their devices. People make lateral device changes (Atrix to Moto RAZR for example) instead of upgrades because there is some level of constant dissatisfaction with their Android device. Companies such as motorola are catering to this, and making tons of money in the process. Why bother support a device for multiple years when people are willing to shell out gobs of cash for Android's 'flavor of the week'? It makes more money for the company and the carrier.
You have to remember that the carrier not the device manufacturer decides what phones make it to market. Apple was wise to keep their warranty and product support in-house, and their quality and support reflects as much. Other phone manufacturers are bent over the carriers' knee. The carrier dictates how long the phone is supported, what accessories are available, and how software updates get pushed. Apple was wise to circumvent all this BS, and look how many iPhone accessories there are in every store, how Apple pushes software updates via their own program, ultimately you get an overall better product that is supported for much longer, while still maintaining profitability.
I love Android as a product, but what an abysmal business model for an open source-based OS. The only thing that keeps me going on Android are the occasional product gems such as the Atrix and the unofficial support provided from devs around the world.
Lets face it, Android owners still look to Apple as the golden standard.
The only reason to do this is keeping up with the smiths. EE have stated their 4g network will be round 10-15mb/s. The same as I get now on 3.
The world is full of people getting phones and 2 months in they feel they are missing out, due to blogs & engadget,etc who are paid to make you feel this.
You only really need to update every other model.
Start thinking rationally on this,NOT how those who are paid to make you feel.
From box 13......
Totally agree.
I went from galaxy s 1 to galaxy s3, galaxy s2 just wasn't worthy at the time. Nor is the note 2 ill be hanging out for the note 3.
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The only reason to do this is keeping up with the smiths. EE have stated their 4g network will be round 10-15mb/s. The same as I get now on 3.
The world is full of people getting phones and 2 months in they feel they are missing out, due to blogs & engadget,etc who are paid to make you feel this.
You only really need to update every other model.
Start thinking rationally on this,NOT how those who are paid to make you feel.
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Im on 3. You get 10 to 15mbps? Never heard of their network giving those speeds! You must be on top of a mast! Best i have ever gotten is 9mbps.
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Stateside here, phones are subsidized by the carriers which means the monthly bill is higher. When i was with sprint ild get a new phone every year amd could sell my "old" phone, the one year old one for more than the $200usd sprint was asking. I think this really what drives the phone markets.
Lucky for me i got off the phone treadmill, sold my S2 and bought a note for only about $150 difference. No more $90 monthly bills. I spend about $10 on prepaid a month and use voip for most of my talking.
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PJ147 said:
Im on 3. You get 10 to 15mbps? Never heard of their network giving those speeds! You must be on top of a mast! Best i have ever gotten is 9mbps.
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LxMxFxD said:
Stateside here, phones are subsidized by the carriers which means the monthly bill is higher. When i was with sprint ild get a new phone every year amd could sell my "old" phone, the one year old one for more than the $200usd sprint was asking. I think this really what drives the phone markets.
Lucky for me i got off the phone treadmill, sold my S2 and bought a note for only about $150 difference. No more $90 monthly bills. I spend about $10 on prepaid a month and use voip for most of my talking.
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Snap. I get 500min. 5000 txt ,unlimited data for $21- pre pay. As gf is in USA use voip.
Id never buy a contract phone. I wait 6months then trawl amazon....
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Its a conspiracy. The phone manufacturers only release a new phone to make us buy it. Someone call the press how could they not have noticed!
Sarcasm aside what really is the point your getting at? Do you actually want to start a movement of people no buying new phones every year? What's wrong with wanting the newest handset every year? If you can afford it then why not. Or is your point that you feel the media is playing you and manipulating you into wanting a new phone and you feel this is somehow unjust?
I was going to edit this and delete most of it but decided to leave it and just say after reading your post a few more times and reading my own I think mine sounds like I am being a real ass to you. Didn't mean it to be. Was meant to sound more playful than it does. Sorry if its not.
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howard bamber said:
The only reason to do this is keeping up with the smiths. EE have stated their 4g network will be round 10-15mb/s. The same as I get now on 3.
The world is full of people getting phones and 2 months in they feel they are missing out, due to blogs & engadget,etc who are paid to make you feel this.
You only really need to update every other model.
Start thinking rationally on this,NOT how those who are paid to make you feel.
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I'm guessing its actually yourself your aiming that at.
Oh well...guess we definitely aren't getting it this month
http://bgr.com/2013/03/22/htc-one-release-date-392552/
HTC has seen unprecedented demand for and interest in the new HTC One, and the care taken to design and build it is evidenced in early reviews. The new HTC One will roll out in the UK, Germany and Taiwan next week and across Europe, North America and most of Asia-Pacific before the end of April. We appreciate our customers’ patience, and believe that once they have the phone in their hands they will agree that it has been worth the wait.
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Figures. Oh well losing interest in this phone more and more as time goes by
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I'm actually quickly growing tired of the ever longer delays and push-backs. If this keeps up, I'll just get something else. Some of us don't have the luxury of waiting another month because we need a phone asap.
So it's gonna hit the US probably around the time the GS4 hits. Nice. <-Sarcasm.
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So it's gonna hit the US probably around the time the GS4 hits. Nice.
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Not nice for HTC, going toe to toe with the S4 is going to cost them a lot of sales.
NO!!!!
I need one before the 20th for a trip, I don't want to get something else for this. :crying:
Android manufacturers need to fire their planning teams. Every single Android product I have ever bought has been delayed.
bye
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So it's gonna hit the US probably around the time the GS4 hits. Nice.
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I hope they have fun trying to convince carriers to advertise their phone over the massively popular GS4.
I just confirmed May 6 as the launch date with three different AT&T stores in my area of Louisiana.
Bad move on htc's part. This isnt going to go well for them with the s4 launch.
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Figures. Oh well losing interest in this phone more and more as time goes by
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Kind of the same for me. I was gettin a hard on for the thing the first few times I saw it and read about it. now I'm kinda leanin towards a gs4
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I just confirmed May 6 as the launch date with three different AT&T stores in my area of Louisiana.
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LOL how did the end of April already become beginning of May!?
I called to ask about pre-ordering the phone and that's what I was told.
Side Note: I didn't even see this forum topic before I called.
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Not nice for HTC, going toe to toe with the S4 is going to cost them a lot of sales.
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Sarcasm fail.
Horrible.
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That's what happens when too much time goes by between announcement and launch; and not just to HTC. The goal should be to build up buzz and then get it in people's hands so word-of-mouth carries the momentum. At launch (or right prior to) is when the big ad spend should kick in to (re)gain and keep attention. Had the schedule stuck they would have been a month ahead of Samsung and not drowned out buy what I'm sure will be Samsung's expansive media spend.
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So it's gonna hit the US probably around the time the GS4 hits. Nice.
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HTC spent $40MM in advertising last year (a pittance). They're going to get lost against Samsung’s budget. The fact that VZW, the largest U.S. carrier, won't have the One (if they get it) until two months after everyone else won't help. The good news for HTC, at least in the U.S., is most people are using subsidized phones so they’re in the market for a new phone when their contract allows them to be. So it's a steady stream of potential customers and the launch euphoria for both the One and SGS4 won't really affect their purchase decision as much as word-of-mouth and how the two phones actually perform.
And HTC fans and Samsung haters are going to buy the One anyway. Just as Samsung fans and HTC haters are going to buy the SGS4; no matter when both are available. People open to both are most likely to be impacted by Samsung's advertising and larger media coverage and the 30 day head start would have helped HTC.
Pretty disappointing. I may be able to wait, but there is absolutely no chance the general population will choose the one over the sgs4 when they see them side by side. Especially after seeing 10000 commercials on tv for the next galaxy phone.
I feel sorry for htc, that was a horrible decision. They're just digging their own grave on this one.
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Dug their own grave you mean. It's over. Still a nice phone but they just lost their chance.
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What happened to "delay will not affect US launch"? smh