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run HARET not in the android folder?

Dear all the rooting professors of mine ^^,
I have try many time, as if I run my android n windows mobile on the same SD card, the android system will try to make a lot of folder which make the card become messy can not organized, so when ever runnung the win mo again, very difficult to seek for so file on SD card, so, is there any method can make that solve?
I think of some possible solution,
1. make a partition for my SD card, then run the android from storage card n windows mobile files on storage card 2 but that make my android always restart , seems not stable.....
2. try to put android folder inside another folder i.e. sdcard\ABC\android to let the android make up floder stay inside the ABC, but android didnt run...
I cant think of any solution anymore, and i have surf around XDA but cant figure out how can it work .... hope all the lovely guys here can help ^^
cheers
Rose

rose5hill said:
Dear all the rooting professors of mine ^^,
I have try many time, as if I run my android n windows mobile on the same SD card, the android system will try to make a lot of folder which make the card become messy can not organized, so when ever runnung the win mo again, very difficult to seek for so file on SD card, so, is there any method can make that solve?
I think of some possible solution,
1. make a partition for my SD card, then run the android from storage card n windows mobile files on storage card 2 but that make my android always restart , seems not stable.....
2. try to put android folder inside another folder i.e. sdcard\ABC\android to let the android make up floder stay inside the ABC, but android didnt run...
I cant think of any solution anymore, and i have surf around XDA but cant figure out how can it work .... hope all the lovely guys here can help ^^
cheers
Rose
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You have to change the startup file to reflect the extra folder that you put the android folder in in order for it to boot.

do you mean if I have sd card\ABC\android for the HARET,
then I need to change the startup.txt ?
sorry to be annoying, but may I know how can I change the txt ??
thanks x 1000000000

just copy and paste the whole android folder to your sd cards root, no any folder.... go to file explorer open up android folder look for CLRCAD. click on it and nothing is gonna happen but dont worry this is normal, make sure your keypad lights are on and run haret and let the magic work,,, oh make sure you turn automatic backlight of and kill all tasks in WIN MO settings before doing all this.... good luck .... >

matutemhn said:
just copy and paste the whole android folder to your sd cards root, no any folder.... go to file explorer open up android folder look for CLRCAD. click on it and nothing is gonna happen but dont worry this is normal, make sure your keypad lights are on and run haret and let the magic work,,, oh make sure you turn automatic backlight of and kill all tasks in WIN MO settings before doing all this.... good luck .... >
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sorry matutemhn, maybe u got some misunderstanding on what I mean, actually I can run android on my HD2, however, I want it to be inside another folder , i.e. sd card\ABC\android\HARET.exe , then the files create by android system will not on the root of SD card and mess up my card ....will be more organize^^
cheers

"rel_path=ABC/Android"
i think that would be the way you have to change the startup text for it to work the way you want it,,,,.,... ;0

matutemhn said:
"rel_path=ABC/Android"
i think that would be the way you have to change the startup text for it to work the way you want it,,,,.,... ;0
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hope that works cuz i hate all thet extra stuff android adds to my sd card too and if its possibe can we figure out a way for it to store the thumbnails. because after loading android winmo adds all of those thumbnails. to my pictures

wrecless said:
hope that works cuz i hate all thet extra stuff android adds to my sd card too and if its possibe can we figure out a way for it to store the thumbnails. because after loading android winmo adds all of those thumbnails. to my pictures
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Your SD card is going to pick up the pictures and ringtones no matter what folder you put them in.

i think that will be the right way if im not wrong, but i was checking my sd card just now and dont see any windows files on root of sd, all i have is android stuff..... wander where all the WINMO stuff is being stored,,,, anyone can tell me...?

matutemhn said:
i think that will be the right way if im not wrong, but i was checking my sd card just now and dont see any windows files on root of sd, all i have is android stuff..... wander where all the WINMO stuff is being stored,,,, anyone can tell me...?
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Well considering Windows runs off the system and Android runs off the SD card, that should give you your answer.
BTW @rose5hill We all now have a Q&A forum so that would be the place to ask questions like this or they will delete or move your post.

matutemhn said:
i think that will be the right way if im not wrong, but i was checking my sd card just now and dont see any windows files on root of sd, all i have is android stuff..... wander where all the WINMO stuff is being stored,,,, anyone can tell me...?
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lol the winmo files are on the phone's mem

motoman234 said:
Well considering Windows runs off the system and Android runs off the SD card, that should give you your answer.
BTW @rose5hill We all now have a Q&A forum so that would be the place to ask questions like this or they will delete or move your post.
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hahahaha... that was a dumb question, yes all files like music, pictures, ringtones will always be shared between both of the OS's no matter what folder you place them on and apps over winmo are installed inside of device's memory,,... right...?

motoman234 said:
Your SD card is going to pick up the pictures and ringtones no matter what folder you put them in.
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So is there no way to keep winmo from reading all of the (thumbnails.) example when i slide over to the pictures tab in winmo it says i have hundreds of pictures. All of the album art and any other little pictures android decides to save.

i know, just came out,,,......... wasnt thinking bout it...>> :?

matutemhn said:
hahahaha... that was a dumb question, yes all files like music, pictures, ringtones will always be shared between both of the OS's no matter what folder you place them on and apps over winmo are installed inside of device's memory,,... right...?
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oh sorry , so should i move my topic to other forums ? as this is the 1st time I start asking Questions here though..... sorry ^^

theres a new forum Q&A we can take all this kinda questions there,,,

ya. thats what i said//// reason why i said i was asking dumb question,,,, lol

I dont mind to see the android file from WM file manager, what I want is , the android-created-file will not show on the root of SD card, thus the SD card root will not be too messy .... will be more organized ^^

matutemhn said:
hahahaha... that was a dumb question, yes all files like music, pictures, ringtones will always be shared between both of the OS's no matter what folder you place them on and apps over winmo are installed inside of device's memory,,... right...?
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Right but you do have the option of installing on your SD card but you will not see the apps scattered all over the place from Windows apps being installed on the SD.
wrecless said:
So is there no way to keep winmo from reading all of the (thumbnails.) example when i slide over to the pictures tab in winmo it says i have hundreds of pictures. All of the album art and any other little pictures android decides to save.
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Sadly, I haven't found a way yet. The thumbnails get very annoying to flip through and trying to find a song in the middle of hundreds of ringtones is even worse.
rose5hill said:
oh sorry , so should i move my topic to other forums ? as this is the 1st time I start asking Questions here though..... sorry ^^
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Im sure a MOD will move it for you when they have time.

I try to put the rel_path=ABC/Android under the startup.txt ....but it stay at the HTC logo after press HARET.exe..... it seems not working or I am wrong in some part ?

[Q] wp7 full backup?

right now, I am quite satisfied with wp7. although changing android roms with titanium backup is easy, is there a way to backup my wp7 rom? probably the whole nand, like nandroid for example? having to reactivate, resync, reunlock and reinstall is a troublesome process....in short, i just want to restore my phone the way it was if i go back to android... anyone?

I've asked this question too and no one responded. Have you found anything?

Unfortunately no. Maybe after the kitchen tools are released? IF they are ever released.... :/

Hey. It's kind of a late response, but I figured out that if I take out my SD card and boot WP7, it booted like it was a new install (no contacts, messages, account info, programs) but when I put my SD card back in, it booted normally. So, I guess all of the info is stored on the SD. So, I think it is possible to create a back up of the encrypted SD card with EASEUS partition manager, and that back up will hold an exact copy of what your phone used to be. So I assume that one could play around with Android roms, and then flash the same WP7 roms and restore the back up on the SD and be set. It's just a theory.

sur3nd1p1ty said:
Hey. It's kind of a late response, but I figured out that if I take out my SD card and boot WP7, it booted like it was a new install (no contacts, messages, account info, programs) but when I put my SD card back in, it booted normally. So, I guess all of the info is stored on the SD. So, I think it is possible to create a back up of the encrypted SD card with EASEUS partition manager, and that back up will hold an exact copy of what your phone used to be. So I assume that one could play around with Android roms, and then flash the same WP7 roms and restore the back up on the SD and be set. It's just a theory.
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Hmmmm...interesting point. I'll have to try that when NODO/MANGO or whatever is released and see what happens. Worst that can happen is I resync as I would have normally in the first place. Thanks for the info.

[Q] How to backup WP7 Short Messages. MS Myphone Service not Working.

Hi all,
Since MS Myphone service is not working with WP7 for backing up the short messages, is there any way or a software to backup all contacts, SMS, and others. Most importantly SMS. How can I get a backup for SMS messages.??
Thanks a lot for any advice in advance..

Does anybody know where the sms are stored in file system? If we knew this maybe we could just backup those files via Touchxperience file explorer (Beta).

I posted in another thread about this, because I was also looking for a way to backup my messages. I didn't really find a "real" way. But what I found is, in my opinion, better than nothing. I like to keep my SMSs for sentimental reasons, so if you only want to be able to read them again in the future, I have a theory of how to do so. I took my SD card out of my HD2 and booted WP7, all of my contacts, messages, account info, was gone. I put the SD back in and it was all back to normal. So, I assume that if you back up your SD card with EASEUS partition manager (I think there is a tutorial on this in the dual booting android and wp7 thread) you can keep the backup on your computer and save it for later. I haven't actually tried this, but because nobody seems to be working on this, I thought it might be worth mentioning.

sur3nd1p1ty said:
I posted in another thread about this, because I was also looking for a way to backup my messages. I didn't really find a "real" way. But what I found is, in my opinion, better than nothing. I like to keep my SMSs for sentimental reasons, so if you only want to be able to read them again in the future, I have a theory of how to do so. I took my SD card out of my HD2 and booted WP7, all of my contacts, messages, account info, was gone. I put the SD back in and it was all back to normal. So, I assume that if you back up your SD card with EASEUS partition manager (I think there is a tutorial on this in the dual booting android and wp7 thread) you can keep the backup on your computer and save it for later. I haven't actually tried this, but because nobody seems to be working on this, I thought it might be worth mentioning.
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It's true.
Works fine for me. I use it to backup apps, however.

Good post. It never hurts to do a backup. But it doesn't help when you upgrade the build, all messages etc will be lost.
Edit; Looked at easeus partition manager and it seemed that the only way to copy a disk partition is to create a new partition on your hard disk, thus erasing the whole hard disk! How do you do it Domenukk?
Also I may be wrong about losing all data when upgrading eg to nodo. If this is possible to do a backup, after upgrading the ROM the backed up sdcard could be re-inserted, it might work! Dont know
Edit 2; found thread titled "[Q] Backing up or Imaging SD card partitions" which explains how to backup to hard disk using ease-us. Another poster suggests using a usb stick or external hard drive instead of precious internal one.

a while ago there were rumurs of Myphone for WP7
http://wmpoweruser.com/my-phone-for-windows-phone-7-pictured/
Has there been any updates?
Right now this is the only thing that is preventiong me from making my HD2 with WP7 my main phone.

you could use "copy and paste" to copy each sms message to Office, then put the file in Dropbox and retrieve on your laptop.
I have tried this and only the message gets copied, not the sender or date/time. you would have to add this for every text in Office
It is useful though for important stuff.
If you download apps via Zune to your phone, they are remembered when you change your ROM, though doesn't work for XApps.
Contacts- saved to sim or synched via windows live account.
Come on thebranded, dive in

hi, its going to be stored somewhere, i backup my programs data files, even after a reflash and upgrade i can use the backups to restore the data for the apps, works great for things like petrol usage, fitness programs etc
anyhow, the SMS files must be located somewhere on the card as well, why dont we get to gether, get a sms message and record the time stamp, turn off the phone and then search the phone looking for files edited at that time stamp

i thnk you can just use zune and sync it

faiz1120 said:
i thnk you can just use zune and sync it
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it doesnt backup sms messages

faiz1120 said:
i thnk you can just use zune and sync it
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You think or you try it yourself already? How to do it?

n_m619 said:
You think or you try it yourself already? How to do it?
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as i said, it doesnt backup SMS messages. If you were about to update the device it would do it, but we cant, and we probably shouldnt even if we could.

Overwrite or new install

I'm loving the CM10 unofficial (SD version by LNE) and see there are various test versions... I've gone with the latest (1.0) and followed all the memory tips, tweaks and SDcard error stuff.... and it's working great - better than the CM7 I have been running...
Question is - when the next version comes out - can I overwrite the files, or do I have to do a totally new install?
Thanks
Chris

That depends on the developer. When he makes major changes he'll probably ask for clean install, whereas when they are just some minor fixes or changes, you probably won't need a fresh install, an overwrite would do.

cjbcjbchris said:
I'm loving the CM10 unofficial (SD version by LNE) and see there are various test versions... I've gone with the latest (1.0) and followed all the memory tips, tweaks and SDcard error stuff.... and it's working great - better than the CM7 I have been running...
Question is - when the next version comes out - can I overwrite the files, or do I have to do a totally new install?
Thanks
Chris
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Yep, what Marvlesz said. If the dev says fresh install, then do that. If not, then just keep the old data.img and you should be good.

Nigeldg said:
Yep, what Marvlesz said. If the dev says fresh install, then do that. If not, then just keep the old data.img and you should be good.
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Thanks - I found the instructions below elsewhere...
If I have apps on the phone that the developer does not include in the build, then when I copy the data.img over, will my apps also reappear, or will i need to install them again?
Chris
4) Upgrading Android Builds
I always do a clean install i.e let the Android build its own data.img with a clean formatted SD card.
Once this is done then copy your old backed up data.img and overwrite the newly created data.img to get all your info and settings as they were.
Caution: data.img is usually not compatible across different chef builds and its best to start a clean install if you are going to use a completely different build altogether. You can get you settings back by using a backup programme such as Titanium. Google sync will get your Contacts and Calendar back anyway if you have synced it previously to Gmail account.

cjbcjbchris said:
Thanks - I found the instructions below elsewhere...
If I have apps on the phone that the developer does not include in the build, then when I copy the data.img over, will my apps also reappear, or will i need to install them again?
Chris
4) Upgrading Android Builds
I always do a clean install i.e let the Android build its own data.img with a clean formatted SD card.
Once this is done then copy your old backed up data.img and overwrite the newly created data.img to get all your info and settings as they were.
Caution: data.img is usually not compatible across different chef builds and its best to start a clean install if you are going to use a completely different build altogether. You can get you settings back by using a backup programme such as Titanium. Google sync will get your Contacts and Calendar back anyway if you have synced it previously to Gmail account.
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Yes, Data.img should keep your applications as well as other settings or info.

Just realised, when I copy my SD card to computer there is no data.img file....
How do I create it?
Sent from my NexusHD2 using xda app-developers app

cjbcjbchris said:
Just realised, when I copy my SD card to computer there is no data.img file....
How do I create it?
Sent from my NexusHD2 using xda app-developers app
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It should already be there, in the Android folder. If you have SD Android and 3rd party apps then there has to be a data.img.
cjbcjbchris said:
Thanks - I found the instructions below elsewhere...
If I have apps on the phone that the developer does not include in the build, then when I copy the data.img over, will my apps also reappear, or will i need to install them again?
Chris
4) Upgrading Android Builds
I always do a clean install i.e let the Android build its own data.img with a clean formatted SD card.
Once this is done then copy your old backed up data.img and overwrite the newly created data.img to get all your info and settings as they were.
Caution: data.img is usually not compatible across different chef builds and its best to start a clean install if you are going to use a completely different build altogether. You can get you settings back by using a backup programme such as Titanium. Google sync will get your Contacts and Calendar back anyway if you have synced it previously to Gmail account.
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Personally I think those instructions are stupid. I've never had an issue just copying over the old data.img and booting first time around.

S4 Backup

So im new to android and ofcourse, came from iphone, and was able to just "backup" to icloud...
my contacts are already synced via google... i assume (dont have the phone yet) that photos and music, videos etc can all go on the mirco sd, then the phone is just for apps... so is something like titanium backup all i need? and does it save the backup to my micro sd incase something happens and i need to reset the phone with that backup?
is that the basics of it?
thanks!

JL84 said:
So im new to android and ofcourse, came from iphone, and was able to just "backup" to icloud...
my contacts are already synced via google... i assume (dont have the phone yet) that photos and music, videos etc can all go on the mirco sd, then the phone is just for apps... so is something like titanium backup all i need? and does it save the backup to my micro sd incase something happens and i need to reset the phone with that backup?
is that the basics of it?
thanks!
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Contacts and wifi access points and passwords are backed up to Google. TiBu will back up as much as much or as little as you want. And you can choose the location like Google drive or your sd card. Carbon Is good backup option too. and there is no need to be rooted
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joshyy_rey said:
Contacts and wifi access points and passwords are backed up to Google. TiBu will back up as much as much or as little as you want. And you can choose the location like Google drive or your sd card. Carbon Is good backup option too. and there is no need to be rooted
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thanks for the heads up. cant wait to dive in on tuesday!

JL84 said:
thanks for the heads up. cant wait to dive in on tuesday!
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For Titanium Backup you need to have ROOT ACCESS
Like itunes and the iPhone, that's how the Galaxy and Samsung Kies is. You can completely backup your phone through Kies as well. If you care about warranty, you should root right now until they figure out how t unlock the bootloader and triangle away any history of you modding your phone just to be safe.

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