[Q] Sprint, Cricket, Google Voice, CDMA and GSM - EVO 4G General

Hey guys,
I've come across something interesting and need the community to help me investigate.
I recently flashed my EVO to cricket, after porting my number to Google Voice and Sprint canceling my contract. Using Google voice, I have noticed a lag time via long distance. However here is the interesting part, the lag time is greater using sprint and cricket, than it is on AT&T and T-Mobile.
Give it a try. Here is a phone number that will echo anything you say 909-390-0003. Dial the number (it doesn't ring, it just picks up).
Using different service providers count 1-2-3-4-5.
I have noticed that Sprint (CDMA) has a longer response time than Att/Tmobile. Using google voice adds a small lag as well.
What i've decided is that Sprint + Google voice make the lag time so long its unusable, but Att/Tmobile + Google voice is acceptable.
Can anybody verify this for me?

Only time I did this was through gizmo5 and gv callback its seemed acceptable

I made a quick video for anbody that wants to see it.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G_xj5sCT5ck

I cant believe more people didn't find this interesting. Its not a cricket thing, its a sprint think (i tried both)

It's called, "Google Voice got partnerships with the voice providers that made the most sense to, and stuck their SIP gateways directly into the local POP for those carriers"
AT&T and Verizon are the nation's biggest carriers, and T-Mobile is the biggest Android carrier. Sprint and Cricket? Pfft.

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[Q] Anyone Port their # with GV yet?

I'm trying to decide whether I should take the plunge or not. I have an iPhone which I was really hoping to get rid of with the tab, but as we all know, no voice. I did the work around using skype and gv to get voip on my tab, but I figured now that gv lets you port, that might not be a bad idea instead of giving 2 phone numbers out. Anyone more knowledgeable than me have any ideas, pros/cons? Any advice would help. It's a t-mo tab if that makes any difference.
Thanks,
I haven't found any voip, etc that will let me receive calls, and the two numbers is weird too.
doesnt seem like a bad idea but i have no need for it since i give everyone my google voice number and i told them to delete my old number. if ur on an iphone then u have ATT, why didnt u get an ATT tab?
Just done it now - switched service from TMO to AT&T after 11 years on TMO (I want to keep my number, but TMO's policy with the Tab was too much).
Rather than just port the number to AT&T, I moved to the cloud...
TMO supported Visual VM like the iPhone, but AT&T only supports it for iPhone and BB.
Now with GV I get the VVM plus the ability to screen calls and also route incoming calls to my desk phone if the reception on my cell is too bad to get the call (reception in my office for all carriers is weak).
I get to check my VM on any device configured to use GV or even via the web.
I have Skype configured to use my old number as caller-id, so I can make voip calls from anywhere there is broadband IP, and I get to choose between GV and Skype for cheap international calling.
Nice!

Google voice

Anyone had any issues with google voice? I have had phone calls not come through every so often, and contacts not blocked end up in the spam folder. Only fix I found was to deactivate my Sprint number and re-activate it 15 mins later on Google Voice. Friend has a Nexus S 4G and can not contact her unless I have google voice activated and even then it will go back and some contacts. If anyone has issue like this let me know.
i never really had an issue with google voice, but whenever i did have some sort of issue the first thing sprint reps would ask is "are integrated with google voice?" seems like they want to blame that first for any tech problems.
i got a new ns4g yesterday and decided ditch googlevoice, the novelty has worn of for me
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G'day,
You asked about Gvoice problems.
Not sure if your situation can be considered contextually similar to mine as I am doing a bit of trickery to be able to use the voicemail section from Canada.
The relevant problem for me is similar to your spam thing. Very rarely, and randomly to boot, voicemail left for me will vanish ... I only know it was left for me because the leavers informed me. No hint whatsoever that it ever happened.
Aside from that its been good to have a voicemail that can SMS me, transcribe to text and just overall be what I thought my OVERPRICED carriers voicemail should be. Already pay far too much for cellular anything in my opinion.
floydlloyd said:
G'day,
You asked about Gvoice problems.
Not sure if your situation can be considered contextually similar to mine as I am doing a bit of trickery to be able to use the voicemail section from Canada.
The relevant problem for me is similar to your spam thing. Very rarely, and randomly to boot, voicemail left for me will vanish ... I only know it was left for me because the leavers informed me. No hint whatsoever that it ever happened.
Aside from that its been good to have a voicemail that can SMS me, transcribe to text and just overall be what I thought my OVERPRICED carriers voicemail should be. Already pay far too much for cellular anything in my opinion.
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Please let us know how you managed to get it working in canada
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I'm not sure how he does it but I have my Nexus on Boost and supposedly you can't use Google Voice mail on a prepaid service but mine works. All I did was go through the setup on the google voice app and set it to be my voice mail...I didn't set up anything through the online settings from my computer. But the funny thing is if I reject a call myself it will send it to my Boost voicemail....if I let it just ring out, it will go to Google Voice mail. Don't know if that helps in your case but it works for me.
Story of the guy who thought in circles !!!
asb123 said:
Please let us know how you managed to get it working in canada
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Well ... Joke was on me !!
At first I thought I had discovered the Holy Grail ... (fool ... I am I am) I erroneously thought that I could beat the system by forwarding unanswered / phone off type calls to Google Voice, then use "Google Voice Callback FREE" app to "intercept" the "outgoing" forwarded call.
Damn ... worked really well in my coupla tests with friends etc but I quickly realized, once my online call log was posted (roughly 3 hour wait plus or minus) I was essentially just calling Google Voice using INTERNATIONAL LONG DISTANCE ... not good, I was prepared to eat the coupla minutes there, so not ready to fall on sword or anything just yet LOL
( Must have been on some heavy drugs 'cause I never stopped to realize that the forwarding is out of my hands and done at the carriers end FIDO.ca in my case)
Unless there is a way to do forwarding LOCAL to the phone or maybe have it answer THEN redirect the call using tasker or some other programmatic method I think I'm stumped ... of course I'm stumped just like the rest of us Canucks. LOL
I have a long distance plan that gives me free minutes to the US that I never use ... tried setting my voicemail # in Android to dial it ... then pause (tried comma and semicolon) then dial my Gvoice number ... No go there ...
Aaaaaargh ... lotta wasted time really without thinking it thru b4 hand AND here I was thinking that I had figured it out, so I posted that yesterday.
So out of all this blah blah blah Coupla questions
1. Is the forwarding TRULY out of my hands and done at the carriers end?
2. is there SOME way I can redirect incoming unanswered calls locally on my phone so that "Google Voice Callback FREE" app can intercept it?
Sorry to get any hopes up with my "genius" non-discovery
Floydlloyd
budphone.ca cheesy interface with ads BUT voicemail & Canadian Long Distance free
Me again,
For those too cheap ...like myself, to pay even more for voicemail. I got this in a tweet a while back and ignored it thinking I could get the Gvoice thing going "somehow".
budphone(dot)ca
Labatts breweries wants our "consumerist" attention so thru freephoneline.ca they are offering this ... get a phone number and long distance calling to many cities in Canada + voicemail + forwarding to normal phones + coupla other things ... go see if you're interested. I dont work for BUD or Labatts BTW. I just like the free voicemail ...1 day only so far.
I signed up and it is OK for me for now. I really only wanted the voice mail. It does give me an alternate phone number too ... without affecting my current FIDO cell plan.
I already have long distance at $.25 per call in North America no matter how long the call is ... (dial a number ... pause ... dial target number. Works on cellphone homephone etc.
I haven't left it off the hook for days or anything to see if the "no matter how long the call is" thing is true, but hours on end is no problem.
This was called talk 25 with win-tel who now seems to primus.ca and it seems they've abolished that SUPER deal except for grandfathering AFAIK You can look there too to see if they offer any killer deals.
Whew ... lotta babbling there ... but might spark some Ideas perhaps?
Floydlloyd
Google Voice is available in Canada at the 403 (Calgary, AB) area code. Google will let you set it up if you sign up over a vpn. Buy yourself a cheap DID.

[Q] N4 on AT&T - no voicemail?

Moved from an iPhone to the N4 on AT&T about a month ago. Until today I did not realize that the voicemail feature does not work (might be a blessing in disguise ). I do not use any app for visual voicemail though that's how the iPhone worked. I tried dialing 1 for voicemail and AT&T prompts me to enter my voicemail number, I enter my mobile phone (10 digits) and it says "invalid mailbox number" or something to that effect. I suspect it's because it used to work differently on the iPhone. Also if I call my cell from a different phone it just rings and rings, it never goes to voicemail, so I guess I have no voicemail service.
Anyone know how to get it to work or should I just get the AT&T visual voicemail app from the play store and hope that works? I know, last resort is to call AT&T, which I try to avoid if possible.
sirxdroid said:
Moved from an iPhone to the N4 on AT&T about a month ago. Until today I did not realize that the voicemail feature does not work (might be a blessing in disguise ). I do not use any app for visual voicemail though that's how the iPhone worked. I tried dialing 1 for voicemail and AT&T prompts me to enter my voicemail number, I enter my mobile phone (10 digits) and it says "invalid mailbox number" or something to that effect. I suspect it's because it used to work differently on the iPhone. Also if I call my cell from a different phone it just rings and rings, it never goes to voicemail, so I guess I have no voicemail service.
Anyone know how to get it to work or should I just get the AT&T visual voicemail app from the play store and hope that works? I know, last resort is to call AT&T, which I try to avoid if possible.
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You need to call att and tell them you are no longer using an iPhone. Voicemail is set up in a special way specifically for the iPhone, at least on att it is. I had to do the same thing a couple years ago when I moved to the first galaxy s. It's stupid.
Sent from my Nexus 4
Endoran said:
You need to call att and tell them you are no longer using an iPhone. Voicemail is set up in a special way specifically for the iPhone, at least on att it is. I had to do the same thing a couple years ago when I moved to the first galaxy s. It's stupid.
Sent from my Nexus 4
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Ah, thanks. People in the community know more than AT&T of course When I called them to get the data going on my N4, they first put me on some Blackberry plan that stopped working after a day. It took another call to get provisioned for the "phone" APN. You'd think that they should have noticed I no longer have the iPhone and they would have fixed my voicemail too...
So getting the AT&T Visual Voicemail app won't help if my voicemail is setup for iPhone right? What's interesting is that calls to my mobile just keep on ringing, they don't go to any voicemail, iPhone or otherwise. I guess somehow the system knows I don't have an iPhone, but it doesn't do anything to fix it.
Google Voice
You should just install the Google Voice app and follow the setup instructions, it's much better than visual voice mail
sirxdroid said:
Ah, thanks. People in the community know more than AT&T of course When I called them to get the data going on my N4, they first put me on some Blackberry plan that stopped working after a day. It took another call to get provisioned for the "phone" APN. You'd think that they should have noticed I no longer have the iPhone and they would have fixed my voicemail too...
So getting the AT&T Visual Voicemail app won't help if my voicemail is setup for iPhone right? What's interesting is that calls to my mobile just keep on ringing, they don't go to any voicemail, iPhone or otherwise. I guess somehow the system knows I don't have an iPhone, but it doesn't do anything to fix it.
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The at&t VVM app won't work on the N4 as it's not one of the phones that the app supports. Just get Google voice and let that be your VVM. It's much better than the crappy at&t app (I used it on my vivid...)
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Thanks everyone for your help. I called AT&T and got the VM going, old school long press "1". Good enough for now. Not a big VM user, took me almost a month to notice the voicemail was not working on my N4
Yes, I know about GV and I might actually port my mobile number to GV soon.
Mine sure as hell works. Got the nastiest voicemail ever from my ex. Blessing in disguise is right.
Funny thing is AT&T told me my voicemail service "expired". Gotta check the expiration date next time

will this work with google voice?

for years ive been with sprint, but im getting very tired of the service decline and dont want to wait for network vision to roll out so i picked up a n4 on tmobile. i previously had two sprint lines, and am still keeping my main number on sprint but i want my n4 to be my primary phone. as far as i can tell i can integrate my sprint number with google voice, then just use gv on my n4 and i can use whichever phone i want and have the same number...correct? i know there are mms issues, but beyond that is there anything i should be wary of?
kellybrf said:
for years ive been with sprint, but im getting very tired of the service decline and dont want to wait for network vision to roll out so i picked up a n4 on tmobile. i previously had two sprint lines, and am still keeping my main number on sprint but i want my n4 to be my primary phone. as far as i can tell i can integrate my sprint number with google voice, then just use gv on my n4 and i can use whichever phone i want and have the same number...correct? i know there are mms issues, but beyond that is there anything i should be wary of?
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So your main number is on sprint that you want to use with GV? Yes that should work as described. Do the integration, and just add the tmobile number on google voice as one of the forwarding phones. I have mine forwarded to home phone and cell and works fine.

Frustrated... what to do??

I have been a Verizon Customer for longer that it has been Verizon.
Service in my area has been great... up until the last year or so. Basically since they put 4G here. I no longer have service in my office, or several other places that I frequent. I travel alot and most always have verizon service where I go.
So here is the dilema... I don't want to lose my phone number! I was thinking about porting my number to another service, cause I do not want to lose my number... I have had it forever. But at the same time I do not want to lose my verizon line until I know that the other service is ok for me. primarily the unlimited data.
Anyone have any ideas?
Chris
cseeley said:
I have been a Verizon Customer for longer that it has been Verizon.
Service in my area has been great... up until the last year or so. Basically since they put 4G here. I no longer have service in my office, or several other places that I frequent. I travel alot and most always have verizon service where I go.
So here is the dilema... I don't want to lose my phone number! I was thinking about porting my number to another service, cause I do not want to lose my number... I have had it forever. But at the same time I do not want to lose my verizon line until I know that the other service is ok for me. primarily the unlimited data.
Anyone have any ideas?
Chris
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This is a issue a growing number people are encountering now a days. I would suggest that you take look into T-Mobile network Test Drive offer an see if they are for you.I know that in my area T-Mobile is terrible so I'm with Verizon till I get kicked off Unlimited then it looks like it's Sprint time. The porting of the number won't be too much of a issue as most company's do that now. I don't know what happened when they flipped the 4G switch but their towers weren't ready.
cseeley said:
I have been a Verizon Customer for longer that it has been Verizon.
Service in my area has been great... up until the last year or so. Basically since they put 4G here. I no longer have service in my office, or several other places that I frequent. I travel alot and most always have verizon service where I go.
So here is the dilema... I don't want to lose my phone number! I was thinking about porting my number to another service, cause I do not want to lose my number... I have had it forever. But at the same time I do not want to lose my verizon line until I know that the other service is ok for me. primarily the unlimited data.
Anyone have any ideas?
Chris
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Go get a new number from some other carrier then forward your Verizon number to it till you get it figured out then port or not
cseeley said:
I have been a Verizon Customer for longer that it has been Verizon.
Service in my area has been great... up until the last year or so. Basically since they put 4G here. I no longer have service in my office, or several other places that I frequent. I travel alot and most always have verizon service where I go.
So here is the dilema... I don't want to lose my phone number! I was thinking about porting my number to another service, cause I do not want to lose my number... I have had it forever. But at the same time I do not want to lose my verizon line until I know that the other service is ok for me. primarily the unlimited data.
Anyone have any ideas?
Chris
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This one's easy. Port your phone number to Google Voice. Then get a new number from Verizon for your existing phone. Install the Google Voice app on your phone and all of the incoming and outgoing calls will be via Google Voice using the number your ported there.
I've had Google Voice as my primary number for years and I'm completely independent of any carrier or single phone. In fact, when someone calls my phone number it rings on my cell phone, my home phone, my office phone, my tablet and my PC. My wife giggles every time I get a call because it sounds like I'm in a clock store with all the alarms going off at once.
If you get a new phone from another carrier just install Google Voice on it and both your old cell phone and new phone will ring at once. You will be completely independent of a carrier. I am so independent of the carrier that I have no idea what phone number is on my current cell phone. I'd have to look in the settings to see what it is.
Two caveats:
1) You will need to use Google Voice for text messaging. If you use any other text messaging app it will show that the message came from the cell phone's number and not Google Voice's number.
2) Google Voice messaging doesn't handle MMS texts. You can't send/receive photos or videos.
One huge advantage:
You can send/receive texts on your PC by going to Voice.Google.com and logging in. In fact, your entire text messaging history is stored in the cloud. Get a text and it shows up on your phone, on your tablet and in your browser. Immediately. When I'm on my computer and I hear my phone chime that a text has arrived, I never take my phone out, I just look at the text in my browser. It's so much more convenient than any other messaging app that I would never change.
Yeah... I already use google voice quite a bit with a different number.
Here is the problem, if I port my number out of Verizon, their system automatically closes the line when the port is complete. It is no problem getting it turned back on, but then I lose the unlimited data.
That is where my problem lies.
Chris
TabGuy said:
This one's easy. Port your phone number to Google Voice. Then get a new number from Verizon for your existing phone. Install the Google Voice app on your phone and all of the incoming and outgoing calls will be via Google Voice using the number your ported there.
I've had Google Voice as my primary number for years and I'm completely independent of any carrier or single phone. In fact, when someone calls my phone number it rings on my cell phone, my home phone, my office phone, my tablet and my PC. My wife giggles every time I get a call because it sounds like I'm in a clock store with all the alarms going off at once.
If you get a new phone from another carrier just install Google Voice on it and both your old cell phone and new phone will ring at once. You will be completely independent of a carrier. I am so independent of the carrier that I have no idea what phone number is on my current cell phone. I'd have to look in the settings to see what it is.
Two caveats:
1) You will need to use Google Voice for text messaging. If you use any other text messaging app it will show that the message came from the cell phone's number and not Google Voice's number.
2) Google Voice messaging doesn't handle MMS texts. You can't send/receive photos or videos.
One huge advantage:
You can send/receive texts on your PC by going to Voice.Google.com and logging in. In fact, your entire text messaging history is stored in the cloud. Get a text and it shows up on your phone, on your tablet and in your browser. Immediately. When I'm on my computer and I hear my phone chime that a text has arrived, I never take my phone out, I just look at the text in my browser. It's so much more convenient than any other messaging app that I would never change.
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