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Could someone explain to me or point me to a thread that explains how to get S-OFF after permarooting with the r14 visionary + build?
I just used the s-off guide in the android development section and it worked perfect.
Go on youtube and search for "visionary g2", there is a guy on their called blackprice that has a step by step video on how to perm root and s-off the phone.
Good Luck.
Thanks, but I need someone to explain to me how to use adb with a mac. Every guide out seems to be for windows
pak256 said:
Thanks, but I need someone to explain to me how to use adb with a mac. Every guide out seems to be for windows
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In the video, black prince actually shows how to do it on the phone itself with terminal emulator.
Awesome, thanks
So I have followed the instructions from blackprice and they seemed to work, I was able to do the S-OFF. However, when using SetCPU I get this message:
Root Access Not Detected
SetCPU could not obtain root
access. Did you allow SetCPU
through Superuser
Permissions? (the answer is yes) If you checked
Superuser Permissions and SetCPU still cannot get root,
there may be a permissions
issue with your ROM.
Please advise...
Thanks
Use visionary and attempt perm root. I had the same problem but this fixed it. Wait for someone else to confirm this though.
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Also get rom manager from the market and falsh clockwork recovery.
Perm root and the reboot, and visionary should stick.
Thanks! Both of you.
pak256 said:
Thanks, but I need someone to explain to me how to use adb with a mac. Every guide out seems to be for windows
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If you google then you will come across some good guides to use ADB on mac
So to confirm with what you are stating, S-OFF but still not accessing root permissions. Re-apply perm root in Visionary, let it reboot, and it should stick. Correct?
hi guys i turned on s because iam sending this back to tmo. but i forgot to flash the stock recovery img and now i am attempting to root again with visionary. it says already rooted. but it wont give me permission. and the s is on. what do i do please help...
anyone...?
This is probably going to get moved to the Q & A forum before I can finish posting this.
I have yet to find an easier root process or an easier set of instructions to follow, than the following post...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=834225
Please read that in its entirety. This is such an easy process that anyone who gets lost or messes it up, might not want to try it in the first place. I'm being as honest as possible, not trying to be insulting.
Ultimately, S=On is part of the un-root process, soooo, you're back at scratch. This means you would need to start back at the top of that post above and follow the instructions on how to root your phone/get S=Off.
Good luck!
shlongwoodian said:
This is probably going to get moved to the Q & A forum before I can finish posting this.
I have yet to find an easier root process or an easier set of instructions to follow, than the following post...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=834225
Please read that in its entirety. This is such an easy process that anyone who gets lost or messes it up, might not want to try it in the first place. I'm being as honest as possible, not trying to be insulting.
Ultimately, S=On is part of the un-root process, soooo, you're back at scratch. This means you would need to start back at the top of that post above and follow the instructions on how to root your phone/get S=Off.
Good luck!
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i understand BUT when i run visionary it tells me already rooted.... but when i type in su it says permission denied....
We're going to need some additional details. You on 2.2.1? Have you restarted your phone since and tried again?
I'll spell it out for you - it really is dead-simple...
(***paraphrasing the OFFICIAL instructions in the thread I linked to above***)
- Enable USB Debugging
- Extract the root.rar in the original post - MAKE SURE YOU PAID ATTENTION AND NOTICED THERE IS A ROOT FOLDER WITHIN A ROOT FOLDER - a nested folder. You do NOT WANT THIS. You want just one /root folder on your sdcard, within it at the .sh scripts.
- Install VISIONary
- Attempt Temp Root
- Run Terminal emulator, type su and follow the instructions in the original post to execute the script - reboot.
- When your phone comes back up, run VISIONary again
- Attempt Temp Root
- Attempt Perm Root
There is really no way to mess this up. I have done this on 6 MT4G's, so if it's not working, you didn't follow the instructions - no doubt, no question. You don't need ADB - you can do this all from your phone with a file explorer (I use EStrongs) and a terminal emulator (I use Android Terminal Emulator).
I'm surprised this hasn't been moderated yet...
2012iawait said:
i understand BUT when i run visionary it tells me already rooted...
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What do you mean it "tells you already rooted"? I am rooted and just running VISIONary - that is, launching VISIONary - it doesn't tell you anything. If you click Temproot now, is that when it shows that?
You know you have to first do Temproot and then do Permroot, right? From what I've seen, you can't "over root," so honestly, I highly recommend starting over again. If possible, I would literally type out each and every step you're taking. Maybe it will show us where you're messing up.
Try a different version of visionary... r11 is my preference
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ESKIMOn00b said:
Try a different version of visionary... r11 is my preference
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Good call. I thought about that as soon as I finished my last reply - i.e. check the VISIONary version.
I've been using r14 since my first MT4G and haven't had a single issue on any of the MT4G's I've used it on.
guys loook.... i am using r11 when i click root now.... it says already rooted i can access the clock work recover and everything but s is on and i dont have super user permission.... i turned the s on but now i cant turn it of. i dont have super user permission in terminal
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i turned the s
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So that means you used the unroot.rar file and the process outlined in the first post? That's how you got S back =On again?
ok finally i got it. but now it wont let me flash the stock reocovery image i tried in adb and terminal in terminal it says file not found. and in adb sending reovery<3948kb> falled< status malformed help..... i have to send this back tomorrow
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ok finally i got it.
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So what was it? It would help if you posted your mistake, so maybe it can help someone else that runs into problems.
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So what was it? It would help if you posted your mistake, so maybe it can help someone else that runs into problems.
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i had to unroot it restart the temp root again then permroot.
done ... i flashed stock recovery....
Please post questions in Q&A section.
I was able to get my phone to s-off permanently but its not rooted so I assume its partially rooted. When I try to us Rom Manager to install ClockworkMod it tells me the phone is not rooted. Do I have to push the root using ADB? Also to explain I used VISIONary+ version 14 with Astro to root the phone if that helps any. Now, when I try to perm root the phone with VISIONary+ it tells me I have to temp root and when I do that again it just stays in a loop, and doesn't really root it. I was able to get SU privileges in the beginning but not anymore.
I googled this issue but to much information was thrown out there so I do apologize for asking what may be a repeating question
I have the same issue.. I finally got s-off to stick and now i cant perm root plus i am not familiar using adb
Yeah I haven't bothered with pushing perm root with adb only because I want to make sure that this is common. Adb is actually really easy to use. As long as you follow and type the code exactly then all will be great.
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Ok, So i've spoke with 2 people from XDA Over the Phone today both tell me to do Sdk However I am not willing to increase the risk of bricking my phone. So please do not suggest sdk,
Here's My issue,
I'm using Visionary 14r I tryed looking for 11 I just can't find it. I've ran the visionary to temp root then went into termenal after temp root was complete (And yes the temp root works I have tested it) and I ran these codes as follows
Su (Works)
cd sdcard/Root (I've done it with both the slash in front as well and witout it so do not try and correct me because it dosen't effect how it runs)
sh root.sh (Runs the kernel)
So I get the exact same thing as what I see on the youtube videos, Then I go back into visionary and run Perm Root and it will reboot my phone and when I go into Termenal and type Su for super user I get access Denied, I have tryed tons of alternatives and I have verifyed that it is 2.2.1, I've tryed Rebooting it and checking to see if S is off and its not, I'm trying to install the ultimate droid rom in it but since I can't get into recovery because of it not being rooted it wont allow me to do anything,. I have copyed the root folder to My sd card at the bottom still wont perm root. ANy tips? or if someone wants to give me a call my numbers 503 438 6765 any help is much appreciated
Really, No one in this "Mytouch 4g Discussion" knows anything about rooting the mytouch?
i got in a battle with mine for 3 days and this is the only method that would work.I just found this tonight and just finished perm rooting/and flashing ice glacier.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1035278
I also sent the link to your pm
gixer2000 said:
i got in a battle with mine for 3 days and this is the only method that would work.I just found this tonight and just finished perm rooting/and flashing ice glacier.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1035278
I also sent the link to your pm
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Yeah some phones don't seem to work with the 'traditional' root methods but all seem to work with this method, so I would definitely give it a try.
If you're not comfortable with adb maybe you should just stay away from it altogether and stick to stock >.>
PhantomRampage said:
If you're not comfortable with adb maybe you should just stay away from it altogether and stick to stock >.>
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Why? I'm rooted, installed tons of kernals and roms and have never even had to use ADB... gfree method/Eng bootloader/radio.. all do through recovery and terminal... you just need to read...
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Well it just sounds like he's trying to take the easy way out because he doesn't feel like reading the tutorials. I just wouldn't want him doing something like that later and flashing something that ruins his phone because he couldn't handle reading and following some directions first.
PhantomRampage said:
Well it just sounds like he's trying to take the easy way out because he doesn't feel like reading the tutorials. I just wouldn't want him doing something like that later and flashing something that ruins his phone because he couldn't handle reading and following some directions first.
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+1 sorry
MT4G + CM7 + Faux's BFS LV kernel
I came from the hd2. The adb/gfree method is what it took here. Just read up follow the tutorial ans enjoy this device.
HD2Fanatic said:
Ok, So i've spoke with 2 people from XDA Over the Phone today both tell me to do Sdk However I am not willing to increase the risk of bricking my phone. So please do not suggest sdk,
Here's My issue,
I'm using Visionary 14r I tryed looking for 11 I just can't find it. I've ran the visionary to temp root then went into termenal after temp root was complete (And yes the temp root works I have tested it) and I ran these codes as follows
Su (Works)
cd sdcard/Root (I've done it with both the slash in front as well and witout it so do not try and correct me because it dosen't effect how it runs)
sh root.sh (Runs the kernel)
So I get the exact same thing as what I see on the youtube videos, Then I go back into visionary and run Perm Root and it will reboot my phone and when I go into Termenal and type Su for super user I get access Denied, I have tryed tons of alternatives and I have verifyed that it is 2.2.1, I've tryed Rebooting it and checking to see if S is off and its not, I'm trying to install the ultimate droid rom in it but since I can't get into recovery because of it not being rooted it wont allow me to do anything,. I have copyed the root folder to My sd card at the bottom still wont perm root. ANy tips? or if someone wants to give me a call my numbers 503 438 6765 any help is much appreciated
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I have visionary 11 if you still want it
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First, I've used VISIONary r14 many times on multiple Glaciers without problem. It should work just fine.
Second, setting up the SDK is not hard. Whoever gave you the idea that the SDK increases the risk of bricking your device is a moron. In fact, the SDK comes with some *very* useful tools that can help you recover if your phone starts running into problems. You don't need it to root your device, but it certainly won't hurt to at least install the tools/platform-tools (you don't need the entire SDK if you don't want it).
Third, I suggest using gfree instead of root.sh because it does much more. I also suggest flashing the engineering bootloader (instructions in same thread) so that you can use fastboot (this is one of those SDK tools I was talking about). Be careful when you enter that command or you could really screw yourself.
You Dont need SDK... Just download the EASY ADB as it works just Fine. Visionary R 14 Will give you a Perm Root, just use it with terminal emulator it is Easy. The Eng. Bootloader is a must have. You can also use the g free method either one is fine. Always remember that you can Always go back to stock if needed with the PD15IMG.zip.
i've tried the both the visionary and the gfree way and i think theres something up with the root.sh files or something happened to the roms themselves to not work properly though the gfree version worked 100%. and honestly if your not comfortable with ADB pushing then your going to miss out on alot of stuff for MT4G especially if you want to be cutting edge MT4g.
Switch to sprint and buy am evo
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alainater said:
Switch to sprint and buy am evo
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I logged in just so I could comment on this..it annoyed me that much. Being as I use to have an EVO and Sprint, the myTouch was EASIER to root then the EVO and is over all a much more capable phone once rooted. I used gfree and it was CAKE to root my phone...it is now fully carrier unlocked and basically brick proof due to the EBL 85.2007. I've been on the EVO forums (my roommate has one still and I'm his flasher) and there is a crap load of outdated ROMS and mods that if you aren't careful what you are mixing and matching you will end up with a bootlooped phone. Not the case with the myTouch everything here is kept well up to date and accurate. Not sure why you felt the need to post this but it was unneeded and well off topic.
/rant
OP use gfree ADB is as easy as 123... if you know how to read and type that is. Also you can do gfree via Terminal just place the files on your SD card and type from terminal to that location instead the thread I used had instructions to do it via ADB and Term, so go for it
HD2Fanatic said:
Ok, So i've spoke with 2 people from XDA Over the Phone today both tell me to do Sdk However I am not willing to increase the risk of bricking my phone. So please do not suggest sdk,
Here's My issue,
I'm using Visionary 14r I tryed looking for 11 I just can't find it. I've ran the visionary to temp root then went into termenal after temp root was complete (And yes the temp root works I have tested it) and I ran these codes as follows
Su (Works)
cd sdcard/Root (I've done it with both the slash in front as well and witout it so do not try and correct me because it dosen't effect how it runs)
sh root.sh (Runs the kernel)
So I get the exact same thing as what I see on the youtube videos, Then I go back into visionary and run Perm Root and it will reboot my phone and when I go into Termenal and type Su for super user I get access Denied, I have tryed tons of alternatives and I have verifyed that it is 2.2.1, I've tryed Rebooting it and checking to see if S is off and its not, I'm trying to install the ultimate droid rom in it but since I can't get into recovery because of it not being rooted it wont allow me to do anything,. I have copyed the root folder to My sd card at the bottom still wont perm root. ANy tips? or if someone wants to give me a call my numbers 503 438 6765 any help is much appreciated
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This is best way to root mytouch 4g and the easiest. Just do exactly what it tells you to do and you will be rooted in no time
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=928160
PhantomRampage said:
If you're not comfortable with adb maybe you should just stay away from it altogether and stick to stock >.>
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This plus 1,000,000,0000^100
[sent via Cyanogen powered Android]
alainater said:
Switch to sprint and buy am evo
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Whatever fanboy! It was voted as one of the top five manufactured defective phones, (screen separations) cannot understand why you felt this would help in the thread. if you love your EVO go back to it and those forums!
dcwiker05 said:
I logged in just so I could comment on this..it annoyed me that much. Being as I use to have an EVO and Sprint, the myTouch was EASIER to root then the EVO and is over all a much more capable phone once rooted. I used gfree and it was CAKE to root my phone...it is now fully carrier unlocked and basically brick proof due to the EBL 85.2007. I've been on the EVO forums (my roommate has one still and I'm his flasher) and there is a crap load of outdated ROMS and mods that if you aren't careful what you are mixing and matching you will end up with a bootlooped phone. Not the case with the myTouch everything here is kept well up to date and accurate. Not sure why you felt the need to post this but it was unneeded and well off topic.
/rant
OP use gfree ADB is as easy as 123... if you know how to read and type that is. Also you can do gfree via Terminal just place the files on your SD card and type from terminal to that location instead the thread I used had instructions to do it via ADB and Term, so go for it
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Mathato said:
Why? I'm rooted, installed tons of kernals and roms and have never even had to use ADB... gfree method/Eng bootloader/radio.. all do through recovery and terminal... you just need to read...
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same here, never had to use adb and hopefully never will
OK.... I said f*ck it to the replacement phone.... DOn't want it... Can't root it... (besides I found out it had the ****ty screen that is manufactured in Taiwan, not China). Further, I want to root it now and I cannot do it with stock gingerbread. Sending back replacement phone today...
BUT....Unfortunately, I restored Froyo to my old phone. So now I have an unrooted phone, with Android 2.2.1.
But.... I STILL DO NOT HAVE THE ABILITY TO CONNECT VIA USB TO USE ADB
I cannot use any wifi adb methods as they all require root.
I cannot use Visionary for temp root as the cyanogen root page wiki says it should be uninstalled.
Nonetheless, I copied all of the needed files to my sdcard, so I am ready....
BUT I NEED TEMP ROOT FROM THE EMULATOR.
Does anyone know how to get temp root for FROYO through the emulator only??.....OR, another Visionary type apk which will give me temp root???
Sorry can"t help on your problem, but how did you restore stock froyo? Had the same replacement prob, sent it back to T-mobile, called CS told them about issues, they're sending a MT4GSlide, call CS you might get lucky like I did
use the "how to root.sh root your phone".
i used that in the T-Mobile store to root my before i left the store when i bought the device.
Marquis63 said:
Sorry can"t help on your problem, but how did you restore stock froyo?
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The phone I restored to stock Froyo was my old phone... It was rooted already. I just wanted to restore it to a factory condition so I wouldn't have any problems returning my old, and rooted/heavily modded phone to TMO.
So I just took the .img that you can download from this thread LINK
Then you just make sure it is on the root of your sdcard, then boot into hboot by holding the volume down while pressing the power button. It will boot and think it is an "update", but it will just restore it to the stock.
Obviously this cannot be done from 2.3.4 because it realizes it is an old version... If you have a phone with stock 2.3.4 you have to trick it into letting you downgrade from gingerbread to froyo using this thread: LINK
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Marquis63 said:
Sorry can"t help on your problem, but how did you restore stock froyo? Had the same replacement prob, sent it back to T-mobile, called CS told them about issues, they're sending a MT4GSlide, call CS you might get lucky like I did
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That's great! But I told them about the fact I solved my wifi problem.... Besides, I already tried to shake them down for a Sensation... no go.
The Slide version looks great... Better camera and faster.... But for now, I will stick with the 4G regular unless I get another issue....
My solution (in another thread) to my wifi problem requires you select "wifi only" under the wifi calling app. If this becomes really problematic and inconvenient, I will call them back... Will try to get a Sensation again or a 4G Slide then.
syntropic said:
OK.... I said f*ck it to the replacement phone.... DOn't want it... Can't root it... (besides I found out it had the ****ty screen that is manufactured in Taiwan, not China). Further, I want to root it now and I cannot do it with stock gingerbread. Sending back replacement phone today...
BUT....Unfortunately, I restored Froyo to my old phone. So now I have an unrooted phone, with Android 2.2.1.
But.... I STILL DO NOT HAVE THE ABILITY TO CONNECT VIA USB TO USE ADB
I cannot use any wifi adb methods as they all require root.
I cannot use Visionary for temp root as the cyanogen root page wiki says it should be uninstalled.
Nonetheless, I copied all of the needed files to my sdcard, so I am ready....
BUT I NEED TEMP ROOT FROM THE EMULATOR.
Does anyone know how to get temp root for FROYO through the emulator only??.....OR, another Visionary type apk which will give me temp root???
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Go to youtube type gfree mytouch 4g look for author Mackster248 video I would link but I'm a noob
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Z4Root is another app that might work on Froyo.
You can manually execute psneuter or rageagainstthecage from Terminal Emulator. Search Google, it'll guide you for both.
Or you could just not listen to CM Wiki, and use Visionary.
I think Visionary screws things up pretty badly.... I found this out the hard way.
I think I have done a hard reset (removed battery + factory reset) about 8 times so far.
I have been using a combination of Visionary, followed by a root.sh script from this link. Then I do get root.... but it is tremendously precarious.
I then uninstall Visionary, use ADBwireless as I have root now and proceed to follow the Cyanogen instructions.....
But then... whenever I have to run psneuter, it boots me out of the adb shell and I have to start everything all over again.... I have to do a factory reset to get Visionary to work that one f*cking precious time.
I just tried it again just now (I have been modifying steps and things to get it to work)... And now... every time I do a factory reset and run visionary, I don't get a Superuser Root... I get "UNKNOWN USER ROOT" in the emulator.... I have know idea what that means, but it is not root....
I have been at this for days and losing my mind. I cannot believe I can't root this phone.... especially now in Froyo... Without a god**mn USB CABLE!!!
Jack_R1 said:
Z4Root is another app that might work on Froyo.
You can manually execute psneuter or rageagainstthecage from Terminal Emulator. Search Google, it'll guide you for both.
Or you could just not listen to CM Wiki, and use Visionary.
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z4 root doesn't work with the MT4G...
Hey... I had a thought..
Since I have nandroid backups... If I get a Visionary root (if I can....), can I just restore my phone with one of them... I mean those backups are all simunlock, eng hboot, radio =111111111, etc. full root.
But... I thought I would ask so I do not have to do another 15 hard resets to figure out that it doesn't work.
syntropic said:
Hey... I had a thought..
Since I have nandroid backups... If I get a Visionary root (if I can....), can I just restore my phone with one of them... I mean those backups are all simunlock, eng hboot, radio =111111111, etc. full root.
But... I thought I would ask so I do not have to do another 15 hard resets to figure out that it doesn't work.
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no, because VISIONary.apk only gives root access, not S-off. S-off is needed to flash Clockworkmod Recovery, which is needed to flash the backups.
saranhai said:
no, because VISIONary.apk only gives root access, not S-off. S-off is needed to flash Clockworkmod Recovery, which is needed to flash the backups.
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Thanks... and for whatever reason... even though I think I rooted my phone successfully, I cannot restore any of my nandroid backups... I get an error in Rom Manager.... and while in recovery, I get an error of "files missing".
Now I cannot even boot the phone. It is stuck at the myTouch Splash.
I am so f*cking tired of doing this... Nothing has worked--
I cannot believe I reset this phone to Froyo in anticipation of sending it back....
I ended up keeping it because it had the better screen and because I thought I had solved my wifi problem...
I am without a phone at all at this point.
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OK.... I said f*ck it to the replacement phone.... DOn't want it... Can't root it... (besides I found out it had the ****ty screen that is manufactured in Taiwan, not China). Further, I want to root it now and I cannot do it with stock gingerbread. Sending back replacement phone today...
BUT....Unfortunately, I restored Froyo to my old phone. So now I have an unrooted phone, with Android 2.2.1.
But.... I STILL DO NOT HAVE THE ABILITY TO CONNECT VIA USB TO USE ADB
I cannot use any wifi adb methods as they all require root.
I cannot use Visionary for temp root as the cyanogen root page wiki says it should be uninstalled.
Nonetheless, I copied all of the needed files to my sdcard, so I am ready....
BUT I NEED TEMP ROOT FROM THE EMULATOR.
Does anyone know how to get temp root for FROYO through the emulator only??.....OR, another Visionary type apk which will give me temp root???
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Have you tried gfree?
+1 it might be your only option.
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And to add to that, gfree doesn't exactly require ADB.
You can use that paid root app to manually push the necessary files into system>data>local.
mackster248 said:
And to add to that, gfree doesn't exactly require ADB.
You can use that paid root app to manually push the necessary files into system>data>local.
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I finally managed to do it. But it took a lot of trial and error.
I learned:
You can only be rely on exactly 1 temp root from visionary after a factory reset. Any more and you are getting lucky.
Visionary definitely should be uninstalled before following that guide.
I may make a guide after belabouring 17 hours to accomplish this.
I guess I am lucky... If TMO had sent me a phone with a good screen, I would have been tempted to keep that one. If I did, it would have been stock 2.3.4, and I would probably not have root yet.
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syntropic said:
I finally managed to do it. But it took a lot of trial and error.
I learned:
You can only be rely on exactly 1 temp root from visionary after a factory reset. Any more and you are getting lucky.
Visionary definitely should be uninstalled before following that guide.
I may make a guide after belabouring 17 hours to accomplish this.
I guess I am lucky... If TMO had sent me a phone with a good screen, I would have been tempted to keep that one. If I did, it would have been stock 2.3.4, and I would probably not have root yet.
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Thanks for the link, yes you should write a guide, it will help others in your situation. I didn't even ask, the CSR offered the MTS4G. Glad you finally got it figured out, it can make you crazy LOL