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This the correct order of steps when flashing new ROM?

Just curious if this is the correct order to flash a new ROM (one of Eugene's ROMs).
1. Titanium Backup - Backup 3rd party apps and their data.
2. Clockwork Recovery - Perform backup to a "nandroid" backup.
3. Clockwork Recovery - Wipe data/factory reset.
4. Clockwork Recovery - Flash update.zip ROM
5. Apply lag fix.
6. Flash kernel of choice (optional if using stock kernel?)
5. Titanium Backup - Restore 3rd party apps and their data.
Sound good?

Sounds good to me. That's the way I go.
Sent from my SGH-T959 using XDA App

floepie said:
Just curious if this is the correct order to flash a new ROM (one of Eugene's ROMs).
1. Titanium Backup - Backup 3rd party apps and their data.
2. Clockwork Recovery - Perform backup to a "nandroid" backup.
3. Clockwork Recovery - Wipe data/factory reset.
4. Clockwork Recovery - Flash update.zip ROM
5. Apply lag fix.
6. Flash kernel of choice (optional if using stock kernel?)
5. Titanium Backup - Restore 3rd party apps and their data.
Sound good?
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Is clockwork recovery a market app? What does it do and what's a nandroid backup?

trunkstar1 said:
Is clockwork recovery a market app? What does it do and what's a nandroid backup?
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Actually no, its in Rom Manager which installs the Clockwork recovery. Rom Manager is available in the market. It also performs nandroid back ups as well.
I too want to flash a custom rom as well, but the term have a stock rom installed first confuses me. Also is Odin necessary to do any of this?

No odin isnt necessary,
Sent from my SGH-T959 using XDA App

do a search on youtube for "samsung Vibrant flashing new or custom rom" and you'll find a ton of "how to" videos - great for the idiots like me that need visual "paint by the numbers" instructions - definitely helps clear up any ambiquities in the typed instructions and quite a few times i found videos that matched the typed instructions

larryccf said:
do a search on youtube for "samsung Vibrant flashing new or custom rom" and you'll find a ton of "how to" videos - great for the idiots like me that need visual "paint by the numbers" instructions - definitely helps clear up any ambiquities in the typed instructions and quite a few times i found videos that matched the typed instructions
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Excellent suggestion.

[A] Bootloop after flashing a ROM via 3.0.0.5 Recovery image.

What you did .. .. ..
Okay so you've rooted your newly bought MyTouch4G, and you've made sure that s=off and you've flashed Clockwork ROM manager's recovery image that you got from the market. That is all the correct order. But when you flashed a ROM you got stuck in a bootloop.
Am i screwed???
Don't worry you are just in a "soft brick mode", or "limp mode" if you will.
What happened? Why is it doing this?
The Image that you downloaded and installed 3.0.0.5 is for 2.3 (Gingerbread) based ROMs only. [n3rd note] these are ext4 style ROMS. They act and store information differently than 2.2 which are Ext3 ROMs[/n3rd note].
This could also be caused by trying to flash a 2.3 using a older 2.x.x.x version of the Recovery Image. Those will only support the Ext3 style ROMs, which are FroYo (2.2) based ROM.
Okay what do i need to do to fix it, there are two methods.
This is Method one it's the older version.
You must use this method if you do not have the engineering screen
If you are using the 3.0.0.5 Recovery image
To fix your problem you need to flash any 2.3 based ROM, for time sake i will recommend Cyanogen(mod). Link to Cyanogen(mod)'s CM7RC4. While you are there you need to also store the G/Apps.
If you are using the 2.x.x.x Recovery Image
To fix your problem you need to flash any 2.2 based ROM, for time sake i will recommend RoyalGlacier Thread can be found here
- Question: How do i find out what Recovery image i am using
- Answer: Boot the phone into the recovery mode. We'll touch on that in a little bit
Now when you download both of those files you also need to store them to SDCard.
NOTE: If you are using 2.x.x.x and going to flash RoyalGlacier you will not need the g/apps. They have included this in their ROM, and MAKE sure to follow their specific directions for installing the ROM.
- Question: Now how in the world i am going to do that since my phone is in bootloop.
Answer:
Two ways one can do that
1) use a SDcard reader and just plug the card into a main USB port.
2) Mount the SDCard in the phone via the Recovery Image. *** i'd recommend this method since you are going to need to be in recovery anyway ***
Pull the battery from the phone an put it back in, then put the back on the phone. turn the phone on holding the power button along with the volume down rocker button. That will boot the phone into the HBoot (Engineering) Screen. From there you will see an option that says "recovery" [this is what i mentioned earlier, about the different versions] use the volume rocker to select it, then tap the power button to select it. The phone will reboot into what is called the recovery image. From there you will select "mount" then USB. That will mount the SDCard to the Computer.
If you are using the 3.0.0.5 Recovery image
Once you have move Cyanogen(mod) and the g/apps to the SD card unmount the SDCard.
Then navigate to "wipe data/factory reset" you will want to wipe the phone. That will format everything to a fashion that can be written over w/o problems.
Then navigate to "install .zip from sdcard" > " choose .zip " > then flash the main Cyanogen(mod) ROM. Then do the same but flash the g/apps that you downloaded.
Once those are done you can re-boot the phone. That will boot you into cyanogen.
If you are using the 2.x.x.x Recovery image
Please use the link i supplied above to get that ROM up and running once it is done, according to their instructions come back here.
Now i understand that may or may not want Cyanogen nor RoyalGlacier on your phone. Well take care of that
What can i do to prevent this from Happening again?
Once you are up and running (make sure to log into your Google Account) go to the market and download Clockwork ROM manager again, and re-flash the recovery image.
Once you are done with that i HIGHLY suggest upgrading to the newest 3.0.0.6 Recovery image. You can do that one of two ways.
one way is to flash True_Blues method for installing 3.0.0.6 recovery image. Use this thread..
This is the way that i would personally recommend.
The second way is download the 3.0.0.6 recovery image, which i've attached and flash it via the ADB commands. If you want to do it this way you do not need to download Clockwork Rom Manager, you can "just flash it". If you need help with that, if you are using Windows or Mac, see my signature for True_Blue's method on EZ ADB. If you are using Unbutu 10.10 use this This Method to get ADB running. This is the method i used to ADB running on my Linux NetBook.
Download the file that i've attached and store just the recovery image from the .zip to the SDCard, from the ADB commands type
adb shell
su
flash_image recovery /sdcard/recovery.img
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More information on this process can be found here
That will flash the newest recovery image to your phone
Once you have installed the 3.0.0.6 ROM Manager you can wipe and flash ANY MyTouch4G ROM that you want. It will handle both 2.2 (ext3) and 2.3 (ext4) ROM formats.
This is the New Method - Which is a little easier.
AND YOU MUST HAVE THE ENGINEERING HBOOT
Thanks to TeeJay for inspiring this.
I am going to assume that since you have the Engineering Screen you are more familiar with what you are doing so i'll be more to the point with this walk-through.
you will need to have ADB up and running for this method.
1) Download the attached file and store just the .img to your folder from which you preform all of your ADB commands
2) plug the phone into the computer
3) boot the phone into HBoot
4) from the ADB commands change the drive to the folder where you stored the recovery image.
5) type these commands
Code:
fastboot flash recovery recovery.img
the screen should say something to the degree of
Code:
sending 'recovery' (3426 KB)... OKAY [ 1.172s]
writing 'recovery'... OKAY [ 0.797s]
finished. total time: 1.969s
6) then select "bootloader"
7) navigate to "reboot recovery"
8) flash your ROM of choice.
9) enjoy your ROM of choice.
Please feel free to use this in your signature or link people back to. If you feel i made an error in this post please PM and i'll edit it accordingly.
If this thread has helped you solve your problem please hit the "thanks" button.
THE RECOVERY IMAGE HAS BEEN UPDATED TO THE NEWEST ONE.

good summary. originally when i flashed cm7 I had to search a bit to come up with what you said above. one addition, CWM lets you mount sd storage to usb so you can copy files to sdcard (say the recovery image). then update CWM 3.0.0.6 with ADB.

leo221 said:
good summary. originally when i flashed cm7 I had to search a bit to come up with what you said above. one addition, CWM lets you mount sd storage to usb so you can copy files to sdcard (say the recovery image). then update CWM 3.0.0.6 with ADB.
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Added that method as well.

May want to mention that the opposite could be true as well > same boot loop but from flashing 2.3 rom with recovery 2.5.1.2

Thank you for this!! Exactly what I needed...!

austengeist said:
Thank you for this!! Exactly what I needed...!
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Glad it helped, just make sure to hit the "Thanks" button in the first post.

dang man you're the Q&A champ, every time i'm on this you're answering questions.
well this worked like a charm, idk why people on xda always make things more complicated than it has to be.

option94 said:
May want to mention that the opposite could be true as well > same boot loop but from flashing 2.3 rom with recovery 2.5.1.2
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Added.
aalsmadi1 said:
dang man you're the Q&A champ, every time i'm on this you're answering questions.
well this worked like a charm, idk why people on xda always make things more complicated than it has to be.
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Well i work in the Imported Automotive parts. My job requires me to basically sit around and answer the phone when it rings. We have our own "call center" room. I just pick up the phone and answer question and sell parts. Like right now i'm working on a engine rebuild kit for a 1975 2Ton Mercedes Bens..... so i get some free time from time to time, and XDA is one of a few sites they allow me to visit.... BGR/ Android and Me, Android Central are the others....
I can see why some people blow up, spend +$200.00 on a phone then turn around and blow through something w/o taking the time to read something and then you get stuck in a bootloop.... i can see why people go bonkers. But slowing down and reading would solve alot of problems. Heck i've got 3 great threads in my signature that would solve alot question that one could have with a new device.

fixed my problem

Thread stuck.

Great guide!

Same issue, except i flashed 3.0.0.6 beforehand to prevent any problems. Iced Glacier flashed okay, I just didn't care for it much. Ive wiped all the necessary parts prior to flashing as I would before flashing any roms. Ive managed to retrieve and restore a previous back (I can haz backups) so Im not stuck. I would like to be in the cool kids cyanogen club. Any ideas?

DHSdrone said:
Same issue, except i flashed 3.0.0.6 beforehand to prevent any problems. Iced Glacier flashed okay, I just didn't care for it much. Ive wiped all the necessary parts prior to flashing as I would before flashing any roms. Ive managed to retrieve and restore a previous back (I can haz backups) so Im not stuck. I would like to be in the cool kids cyanogen club. Any ideas?
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Meaning you want to run Cyanogen(mod)? Well jump over to their site and download the ROM of your picking; Nightlies are alpha builds, and the RC's are beta builds. I've ran both and both are extremely stable. I have links supplied in the first post. and directions for that matter. just make sure to do a nandroid backup before wiping and flashing.

Thanks ....Saved ME LIFE

Posting so I can see the "thanks" button. Doubley thanks you saved my bacon....err phone!! Hmmmm bacon!

Ok I am having one Problem PLEASE HELP!!!
When I click "wipe data/factory reset" it just shows the clockwork icon (hat and arrow) and nothing happens.
In fact, this happens with all of the options in the clockwork recovery.
I am running clockwork 3.0.0.5. I had CM7 and I did something stupid, tried flashing another ROM via rom manager....I did back up everything though.
Please tell me I am not bricked!!!

b0rnsusp3ct said:
Ok I am having one Problem PLEASE HELP!!!
When I click "wipe data/factory reset" it just shows the clockwork icon (hat and arrow) and nothing happens.
In fact, this happens with all of the options in the clockwork recovery.
I am running clockwork 3.0.0.5. I had CM7 and I did something stupid, tried flashing another ROM via rom manager....I did back up everything though.
Please tell me I am not bricked!!!
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Pull the battery. Hold vol down power on them restore cm7. Then flash cwm 3.0.0.6.
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b0rnsusp3ct said:
Ok I am having one Problem PLEASE HELP!!!
When I click "wipe data/factory reset" it just shows the clockwork icon (hat and arrow) and nothing happens.
In fact, this happens with all of the options in the clockwork recovery.
I am running clockwork 3.0.0.5. I had CM7 and I did something stupid, tried flashing another ROM via rom manager....I did back up everything though.
Please tell me I am not bricked!!!
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What button are you pressing to select the option? you should just use the trackpad.

Loll...wow, I am such a noob i def. shouldn't be rooting or anything.
Thanks so much!

b0rnsusp3ct said:
Loll...wow, I am such a noob i def. shouldn't be rooting or anything.
Thanks so much!
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Why do you say that?

Can't root after XTC Clip S-OFF

Hi, I was on hboot 1.01.0001 so I finally got S-OFFed today. I flashed Ruu 1.37 and now I am on hboot 0.80.0007 and S-OFF.
However, I can't root with Unrevoked (tried 3.21, 3.22 and 3.32 Windows and Ubuntu versions, where I could root the same ROM time ago).
I also can't flash a Clockworkmod recovery from the recovery I have now (stock one) for failed signature verification and I don't know what to do... Now i get Bakcup CID missing in Unrevoked too...
Please any help. It must be a little thing, but I don't know.
EDIT: I finally got it with a test version of Unrevoked. Posted in the 4th post of this thread.
Thanks

How to install recovery
antonio1475 said:
Hi, I was on hboot 1.01.0001 so I finally got S-OFFed today. I flashed Ruu 1.37 and now I am on hboot 0.80.0007 and S-OFF.
However, I can't root with Unrevoked (tried 3.21, 3.22 and 3.32 Windows and Ubuntu versions, where I could root the same ROM time ago).
I also can't flash a Clockworkmod recovery from the recovery I have now (stock one) for failed signature verification and I don't know what to do... Now i get Bakcup CID missing in Unrevoked too...
Please any help. It must be a little thing, but I don't know.
Thanks
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Same here. Got S-OFF and superuser is working now. Unrevoked says Can't root is you firmware to new.
Rom Manager says it installs Clockwork recovery but recovery is not working??
Anyone?

eduardb said:
Same here. Got S-OFF and superuser is working now. Unrevoked says Can't root is you firmware to new.
Rom Manager says it installs Clockwork recovery but recovery is not working??
Anyone?
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But are you still on hboot 1.01.0001? Because if Unrevoked says Can't root is you firmware to new that may be. Or have you flashed an older RUU?
How have you got superuser???

eduardb said:
Same here. Got S-OFF and superuser is working now. Unrevoked says Can't root is you firmware to new.
Rom Manager says it installs Clockwork recovery but recovery is not working??
Anyone?
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Hey! If you are in hboot 0.80 (Flash 1.37 RUU), I finally found a test version of Unrevoked here that installed Clockworkmod recovery!!!
http://rootmydroid.co.uk/guides/howto-fix-the-backup-cid-missing-error-on-unrevoked/
Option 1--> downlod the file, is the Unrevoked test version. Run it, it works!!
I hope if it useful to somebody.

Do you guys even know what's the purpose of having S-OFF?!
If you phone's NAND is unlocked, just get temp root and flash the recovery

Kwen said:
Do you guys even know what's the purpose of having S-OFF?!
If you phone's NAND is unlocked, just get temp root and flash the recovery
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Hey I am sorry! I did what I could. I tried Unrevoked and didn't work so I eventually got an Unrevoked version that did the trick.
Excuse me if I can't do another way without having the steps to follow.

I had the same problem first i set s-off, then flashed and older RUU, then unrevoked 3.14 and that worked for me......so good and easy and fast!

hans3103 said:
I had the same problem but i use unrevoked 3.14 to root the wildfire.....all without any problems I think newer is not always better for things like this.
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Yeah, the test version I posted was 3.22. I ll note myself that 3.14 works for the next time. Thanks

strange...newer is not always better ........lol

If you get the error-message concerning the cid in Unrevoked - just adb into the phone, run the __unrevoked__ script in /system and flash the clockwork-mod after that. From there you can install rooted images like you want ..

sammy98 said:
If you get the error-message concerning the cid in Unrevoked - just adb into the phone, run the __unrevoked__ script in /system and flash the clockwork-mod after that. From there you can install rooted images like you want ..
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Thank you! I will keep that in mind.

Just fix your .misc file, as descriped in this post ( http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=824396 ) - when done, then re-run unrevoked

Birthe88 said:
Just fix your .misc file, as descriped in this post ( http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=824396 ) - when done, then re-run unrevoked
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I read a post about this file but I found it hard and risky. Decided to use a test version of Unrevoked as said before.
Thanks for the ost anyway. Will be useful.
Sent from my HTC Wildfire using XDA App

xtc clip s-off
I got the same error message but got rooted with and older version of unrevoked...then the problem was solved. Much more easy and more safe i guess . I dont know if this work for every one but for me it did.

Rooting after S-OFF
Hi guys,
I`ll share here my experience.
There are mainly two different methods (with some variations) of obtaining ROOT after S-OFF (with XTC Clip).
1-st (and likely undesirable to me) is exactly: downgrading > Unrevoked > upgrading.
- And why so?
There have some disadvantages:
- downgrading is additional flashing of the device and is unnecessary at all (you`ll see later).
- need of connection to computer.
2-nd (very desirable metnod) is to install CWM Recovery right away S-OFF. Even this procedure is not a must, but makes your life easier. Then You can flash right from SD card whichever ROM you like.
- And what advantage gives this to me?
- Only 1 flash procedure, no need of downgrades. Flashing with already rooted ROM (any custom or rooted stock) gives you ROOT access with only 1 step.
- There is no Unrevoked procedure, thats mean no need of computer connection at all.
The most painless and secure algorithm is:
1. S-OFF (by XTC Clip)
2. Install ClockWorkMod (CWM) Recovery - Here you`ll find recovery .img and .zip for all supported models.
How to install CWM Recovery?
As example I`ll give Wildfire aka Buzz:
- You`ll need to upload PC49IMG.zip (last CWM 3.0.0.6) on top of your sdcard ( NOT in any folder).
- Boot the smart in bootloader (holding VOLUME DOWN then POWER). You will be asked to install the ZIP file (Yes is right answer). Recovery will then install automatic, DO NOT press any buttons before finishing of process.
3. Backup/Restore Your current ROM:
- Starting Recovery: in bootloader navigate (with VOLUM DOWN) to "recovery", then POWER to enter in CWM Recovery menu.
- Navigation: TRACKPAD or VOLUME button to navigate trough menus, to select them press TRACKPAD button. Use BACK touch button to back in menus.
- Backup: you`ll find "Backup" menu under "backup and restore" main menu - When pressing "Backup" then CWM will perform backup of current state of the device. If succeed you'll see "Backup complete" message.
- Restore: you`ll see this menu as "Restore" right under "Backup". The menu gives you a list of available backups to restore. There have to be at least 1 backup to perform restore operation.
4. Wipe ONLY cache/dalvik when performing next step (5.) (if you want to save all data and settings, else do data/factory reset also which is recommended before flashing any custom ROM):
- just "wipe cache partition" in main menu and under "advanced" perform "Wipe Dalvik Cache".
- "wipe data/factory reset" - perform this action, ONLY if want to flash custom ROMs. This action will RESET smart to its factory settings (you`ll lose all data and settings except those saved on sdcard).
5.(optional) Install su binary with Superuser rootpack:
- download Eclair-Froyo-Gingerbread rootpack
- place the file as is on sdcard or in some folder on sdcard (there is no need to be on top of sdcard)
- boot in recovery and go to "install zip from sdcard" menu, then "choose zip from sdcard" submenu - here you can browse through sdcard folders and install su-2.3.6.1-ef-signed.zip (or your ROM or any update, e.g. radio, kernel etc.).
6.(optional) Make backup of Rooted ROM - see (3. : Backup)
7.(optional) Install some backup application like Titanium Backup (or PRO) or MyBackupRoot (or PRO) - this is optional but recommended. When backing up your Applications+Data you can restore them even after flashing custom ROM (which is performed after data/factory reset, and all applications and data will be wiped).
8. Install any custom or stock ROM:
- for stock ROM see 5.
- for custom ROM perform 4. (including "wipe data/factory reset"), then 5.
9.(optional) Restore Your applications and data - when Custom ROM is installed there is need to perform data/factory reset. Any backup of applications and data performed in step (7.) could be restored in freshly flashed Custom ROM.
NOTE: Later on I`ll add some additional stuff here - useful links and more deep explanation of mentioned algorithm if needed.
Happy Rooting!
XTC Clip in Bulgaria

dailor said:
Hi guys,
I`ll share here my experience.
There are mainly two different methods (with some variations) of obtaining ROOT after S-OFF (with XTC Clip).
1-st (and likely undesirable to me) is exactly: downgrading > Unrevoked > upgrading.
- And why so?
There have some disadvantages:
- downgrading is additional flashing of the device and is unnecessary at all (you`ll see later).
- need of connection to computer.
2-nd (very desirable metnod) is to install CWM Recovery right away S-OFF. Even this procedure is not a must, but makes your life easier. Then You can flash right from SD card whichever ROM you like, and that includes Stock Rooted ROM.
- And what advantage gives this to me?
- Only 1 flash procedure, no need of downgrades. Flashing with already rooted ROM (any custom or rooted stock) gives you ROOT access with only 1 step.
- There is no Unrevoked procedure, thats mean no need of computer connection at all.
When flashing with rooted Stock ROM, there is no need of data/factory reset procedure (wipe only caches - cache partition and dalvik). That`s mean exactly after flashing You will be Booted & Rooted with all settings and data saved.
The most painless and secure algorithm is:
1. S-OFF (by XTC Clip)
2. Install ClockWorkMod (CWM) Recovery
3. Backup Your current ROM
4. Wipe cache/dalvik ONLY when performing next step (5.) (if you want to save all data and settings, else do data/factory reset also which is recommended before flashing any custom ROM).
5.(optional) Install Stock Rooted ROM
6.(optional) Make backup of Rooted ROM
7.(optional) Install some backup application like Titanium Backup or MyBackup (PRO)
8. Install any custom or stock ROM.
9.(optional) Recover Your applications and data - when Custom ROM is installed there is need to perform data/factory reset. Any backup of applications and data performed in step (7.) could be restored in freshly flashed Custom ROM.
NOTE: Later on I`ll add some additional stuff here - useful links and more deep explanation of mentioned algorithm if needed.
Happy Rooting!
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Great explanation! It will sure be useful for someone

Ok.. how do I install clockwork after getting s-off with xtc clip??

pyroblazer said:
Ok.. how do I install clockwork after getting s-off with xtc clip??
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Check the 4th post of this thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=12093356&postcount=4
easy

antonio1475 said:
Check the 4th post of this thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=12093356&postcount=4
easy
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thnx....mate... gonna get s-off on monday... that is if i can afford it rightnow..

pyroblazer said:
thnx....mate... gonna get s-off on monday... that is if i can afford it rightnow..
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But someone is going to make it to you for some $ or you bought the XTC Clip?
Because for the price of XTC Clip, you can get a new phone...

[Q] Can i get some help with nandroid backup

figured it out thanks to everyone. None of the guides specifically told me that you needed to root your phone to do a nandroid. I swear the first step and second steps in all guides is NANDROID!!!!! NANDROID!!!!!! Thanks to these guys i got it figured out a couple weeks ago. now i got s=off running cw7 rc4 w/ faux123's kernel. also got custom boot anime and splash screen. once i got that nandroid thing figured out it was easy from there. Thanks again!

tjlawson09 said:
I can't figure out how to do a nandroid backup. I'm getting set up to root my phone and got all the apps and what not. I boot into recovery mode on MT4G and goto recovery and than i get a splash screen followed by a picture of the phoner with a red exclamation point on top of it. I can't do anything from that screen. My understanding is that i goto recovery mode and than i have options of restoring a nandroid or making a nandroid. Anything would help very frustrating. thanks.
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You have to flash cwm 3.0.0.6 it sounds like u have stock recovery.
Sent From My Evil HTC Glacier

Like said above, you can't make a Nandroid backup without a custom recovery installed. That means you can't make a backup until after you're rooted.

Follow one of the many guides to root your phone. After you get it rooted... boot into clockwork recovery and go down to backup/restore. Select backup and let it do its thing.
Sent from my HTC Glacier using XDA App

Unlock BL, ROM Manager and backup current

Hi,
My AT&T Atrix is running on 4.5.91 and is rooted
I would like to start using ROMs but would like to have the option to go back to what I have right now (ROM and Apps)
I just want to make sure I understand what I'm doing and keep it as simple as possible.
Unlock the BootLoader: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=22148143#post22148143
Then download and install ROM Manager, install CWM Recovery and then I can backup the current ROM
Then, I can install any Atrix ROM from the ROM Manager.
Is all this correct?
If yes, YIPPI!
If not, let me know where I'm wrong and try to keep it as simple as possible for me as I am quite a noob when it comes to ROMing and scared to death to brick my phone
BTW - I have titanium pro
Thanks!

1. unlock bootloader
2. install romracer's Custom CWM-based Recovery 5.0.2.7-atrix5 link
3. nandroid backup including webtop/osh partition
4. install any downloadable rom from the Atrix 4G Android Development forum

ok, you lost me
1) is the BL unlocking link correct? This is what I should use?
2) I see this requires some command line stuff, not sure how to do this. Is there an easier way? Any reason why I shouldn't use the recovery from ROM Manager?
3) What's nandroid
4) ok

mickeycohen said:
ok, you lost me
1) is the BL unlocking link correct? This is what I should use?
Should work fine for bootloader unlock on AT&T Atrix.
2) I see this requires some command line stuff, not sure how to do this. Is there an easier way? Any reason why I shouldn't use the recovery from ROM Manager?
Romracer's just works better. Flash through fastboot. Get it here: Romracer Recovery
3) What's nandroid
Once you have recovery installed you will see a backup/restore menu selection. Just select this and follow the prompts. (Can take a wee bit to backup). After this, if you want to restore your phone to the state it was in when you created the backup, reboot to recovery and follow the restore prompts.
4) ok
Don't install any downloadable ROM, as some are actually psuedo ROM's. There is a common list of the ROM's everyone is using which are usually the first 1/2 dozen or so ROM's in the dev forum, as these are continually updated or new posts created for them. Any confusion over the ROM's, look through some of the other posts asking for help in ROM selection. (When you do flash a new ROM, do so on a FULL battery, and give the ROM time to boot up on the first reboot after flashing. Can take 10-15 minutes to boot that first time).
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Hi
Much clearer now, thanks
But, a few more questions
Will unlocking the bootloader wipe any data?
The reason I liked ROM Manager is because it has a GUI for everything you need to do. And I still don't understand how to flash recovery from this guide
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1204500
Is this using ADB? I have no idea how to do this
Nandroid is a full backup of everything? System, apps etc?
Is the recovery wiped after installing a ROM or is the recovery like the bootloader and completely separate from the OS and Kernel?
Again, thanks for helping and sorry for my noobiness

mickeycohen said:
Hi
Much clearer now, thanks
But, a few more questions
Will unlocking the bootloader wipe any data?
No, data will be ok.
The reason I liked ROM Manager is because it has a GUI for everything you need to do. And I still don't understand how to flash recovery from this guide
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1204500
You run fastboot through a cmd line on your PC. Your phone is connected to your PC via your USB cable, and is running in fastboot mode. From the cmd line you issue commands to flash recovery to your Atrix as described in the above linked thread. Best idea would be for you to Google and read about fastboot and moto-fastboot so you have a clear understanding of what is entailed in using it. It is very easy once you understand it.
Is this using ADB? I have no idea how to do this
No. Fastboot per the previous answer.
Nandroid is a full backup of everything? System, apps etc?
Yes, nandroid backup is a complete and full backup.
Is the recovery wiped after installing a ROM or is the recovery like the bootloader and completely separate from the OS and Kernel?
Recovery will not be wiped.
Again, thanks for helping and sorry for my noobiness
You're welcome.
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Ok, cool. Still a few more questions:
Megaupload was shut down. Where can I find the BL unlocker?
Fastboot mode = usb debugging mode?
I understand what you're saying about this recovery, but - I like the fact that everything can be done through a GUI with a click of a button. So I can install the CWM recovery through ROM manager once the BL is unlocked?
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Hi guys,
Please can someone respond?
Thanks
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mickeycohen said:
Hi guys,
Please can someone respond?
Thanks
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You can download the script here:
http://j.mp/Ate8E5
Fastboot <> USB debugging
Fastboot = power up while holding down the volume down button until you see "fastboot" on the boot screen. Then press the volume up button to go into Fastboot mode
About recovery, if you're insecure (which is ok and understandable) just do everything through ROM Manager, it's easy
Anyway, most new ROMs have AROMA so you'll be fine