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Is it possible to get an app that is the iPhone app store as a .cab to run on my TP2? Words with friends is the app I am wanting from the app store. It is not in the Win MP. Is there a place where I can request this app be made into a .cab? May be a good idea for someone smart enough to figure out how to do such a thing.
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Um, the iPhone is a COMPLETELY different programming environment from Windows Mobile. It is simply not possible for an iPhone app to run on a Windows Mobile device.
In some cases a developer will target multiple platforms (e.g. "porting" the app between platforms), for example Beejive is available as a paid product for BlackBerry and iPhone and unsupported permanent beta (more like discontinued product) for WM, but only the original auther of the application can do this, and only if they want to. It takes planning to develop a cross-platform app in the first place, and if an app was not initially designed to be cross-platform, porting is a painful process. (Usually it simply doesn't get done.)
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Um, the iPhone is a COMPLETELY different programming environment from Windows Mobile. It is simply not possible for an iPhone app to run on a Windows Mobile device.
In some cases a developer will target multiple platforms (e.g. "porting" the app between platforms), for example Beejive is available as a paid product for BlackBerry and iPhone and unsupported permanent beta (more like discontinued product) for WM, but only the original auther of the application can do this, and only if they want to. It takes planning to develop a cross-platform app in the first place, and if an app was not initially designed to be cross-platform, porting is a painful process. (Usually it simply doesn't get done.)
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That makes sense I thought I would ask .
Thanks
I've been giving some thought of porting my apps to Windows Mobile and iPhone in order to reach a bigger (potential) market.
Just wondering if any Android developers are doing this. And if so, are you getting sales from the ported app?
I don't have any apps to port, so I can't speak from experience, but look at this article:
xttp://news.cnet.com/8301-1035_3-20015799-94.html (change the x in front)
The Android OS has a larger market share of the mobile phone market. If your apps are equally desirable to Android users , I can't think of a reason not to rewrite them from android.
you should port the application. You can see all good application is availiable in different platforms. Like need for speed. It would be good to sale in different platform, otherwise someone will copy your application.
A couple of good points, thank you. It's not like my apps are super-selling right now; I'm more of a "this app is functional" vs. "this app is flashy". Unfortunately, a lot of app buyers want the flashy (or both).
Granted, stuff I've written has only been on the market for 5 days. I'm not sure I want to pick-up 2 more programming languages right now. I'm an unemployed business programmer (COBOL, C++, SQL, DB2 and Oracle databases) trying to earn a little money on the side (or a lot if I can find that "killer" app).
I might just hang with Android for now and try to code some other projects. Then maybe if one takes-off, I can port to other smartphone OS's.
Hi all,
I would like to seek your feedback on your experience with mobile ad networks. Should I be engaging the big players like AdMob or can I go to smaller ad networks? They all look the same to me, offering the same services.
Cheers!
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Hi all,
I would like to seek your feedback on your experience with mobile ad networks. Should I be engaging the big players like AdMob or can I go to smaller ad networks? They all look the same to me, offering the same services.
Cheers!
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In my apps I usually combine several ad networks. Admob has a very small eCPM, so Im using iAd + Mobfox + Admob for iPhone and Mobfox + Admob for android.
It really depends on what your app is for, does, etc. For instance I develop live wallpapers. So I would need an ad company that would work with live wallpapers not necessarily a "regular app".
Personally I use leadbolt:
The only ad type from them I use is the notification ad. They offer different types this one works for me. Since my live wallpapers aren't traditional apps that users enter this works great since it will display a small ad in the notification bar that is easily "cleared" if the user chooses not to click it. They are not forced to click, etc. This means your users wont leave a lot of those spam 1 star ratings. Its also easy to implement with eclipse. You can also set how often the users see the ad (in days).
They have a good payout plan and i'm not greedy so the starting low earnings is ok because it grows with your user base. Permissions needed for this company is 5. Standard number for most apps.
The second company I just started using is StartApp.
They pay on an per install basis not by ads. So for each US install of your app you get $.055. So if you get 1000 US installs thats $55USD. They pay a lower amount for non us installs i believe its $.04 and $.01 for returning users meaning if a user has one of your apps installed and download another with start app in it you make $.01 not $.055.
This one is a little more tricky however because the user must accept the terms when they install your app for you to get credit. Once they do that they get a search icon, browser bookmark, and one other thing. All of which can be deleted right then after install without effecting your app or your pay. As long as they accept the terms you get paid.
Permissions needed for this company is 15 i believe. Which most are just to access the settings of the different third party launchers out there and not listed in the Google play store listing.
Startapp doesn't generate as many bad or negative reviews as others.
All in all im happy with both and haven't gotten any negative reviews since implementing either. However just started using Startapp 2 days ago so ill wait and see how that does.
You can use either of these along with other companies at the same time. I use leadbolt and startapp in some of my apps at the same time.
One thing you should also keep in mind is your users' privacy. Don't forget you bundle those ad modules with your own app -- so they also have access to everything your app has access to. And some networks make use of (or rather abuse) this. Also, it makes it harder to explain your app's permissions to the user -- not everybody is satisfied by "well, that's just for the ads".
Some useful readings on this include:
Android Adware abusing permissions, Collecting more than they need
How to Curb Aggressive Mobile Ad Networks
Android ad networks found accessing users’ private data
Android apps and advertising: A bit too cozy
Again: while some ad modules require too much permissions themselves (you can check that e.g. at Top Mobile Ad Networks), some additionally abuse the permissions your own app needs.
Ad networks = profit from free apps. Android users do not like paying for apps so thats the smartest way to be paid for the hard work while development process
Ad networks are a great way for you to make solid revenue on android
In my experience I would say:
Good for Admob
Less than sufficient for Startapp (dropped a lot after the Google's changes )
Hi,
Being an ad network, we understand such concerns. There are app developers who look for different way to monetize via (their) app. Ad networks help them to do it in easy way. Ad networks facilitate app developers with right solution.
For any app developer, there is nothing more gratifying than app monetization, and that's what Ad networks do. We help app developer to monetize well.
That's the problem really, comparing Leadbolt against Admob is not an apple vs apple comparison. One is a push network (plus in-app and icon and walls, etc.), another is in-app banners.
As a benchmark... In July last year I made over $300 from referral revenues, this month, it stands at $4 from over 200 referrals. These numbers do indeed speak for themselves.
As I always say, some ad networks work great for some people, maybe this works for you. Maybe Leadbolt works for many others too, and if it does, I'm happy for you.
It just doesn't work for me... too bad...
Thanks guys, this thread is what I'm looking for.
chongnyen said:
Hi all,
I would like to seek your feedback on your experience with mobile ad networks. Should I be engaging the big players like AdMob or can I go to smaller ad networks? They all look the same to me, offering the same services.
Cheers!
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I prefer to use big player.. for big player usually give you a smaller ecpm, but there is scam potency for smaller ad network..
don't want to take risk for that..
as changing ad provider means we must update our apps in play store, if we just say that our update is only change the ad provider, our user won't be interested to update their apps.. we must make significant update in the codes to.. that means times too.. while we all know.. times is precious and expensive too
Hi all.
Haven't seen this topic yet so I thought I'd introduce it. Has a petition ever been sent directly to Microsoft to allow jailbreaking and development of apps in a Cydia like store. I'm positive this would increase the popularity of wp8. There are are so many little things like decreasing the interval for updating live tile, and creating playlists on the phone itself. Widgets would also be nice. I just got a 920 and like it a lot. I was using launcher8 on my gn2 before and that launcher allowed widgets on tiles, more rectangular tile options etc.
Are you really think that Microsoft or somebody else care about these petitions?
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Are you really think that Microsoft or somebody else care about these petitions?
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if enough people sign, then yes I do. I'm convinced that many iOS and android users would try a windows phone. There would be far more developers making apps also.
Jailbreaking will never be allowed on windows phone becuase Microsoft wants to win over the business sector. One of the reason the secure boot was implemented was because of businesses complaining about security on WP7.
Besides, there aren't really BIG things to get from jailbreaking, other than useless things some individuals care about. the vast majority of WP8 users are happy with their phones, plus most of the things you are asking (like adding playlists on the phone), will be supported eventually.
Lowering the interval for live tiles is a really bad idea btw.
If microsoft ever allows access to the file system, there will be no need for anything else: developers will pick it up from there and do their thing.
Ain't ever going to happen. Ms is bent over backwards by OEMS and carriers
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we need to start a kickstarter or offer a bounty on xda
I am sure if we started a bounty or kickstarter and rightfully paid one of the hackers to jailbreak wp8 they could get the job done a lot sooner
so how shall we go about this?
I am ready to offer my contribution
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I am sure if we started a bounty or kickstarter and rightfully paid one of the hackers to jailbreak wp8 they could get the job done a lot sooner
so how shall we go about this?
I am ready to offer my contribution
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Still won't happen dude. I don't know but there seems to be some sort of aversion to WP by all the devs. The iPhone/iPad community has a number of devs piling over eachother to bring out the "next best way to JB". Android, I don't even need to get started. Other OSs too will fall in place soon. But what keeps the devs away from WP is a bit of a mystery to me.
BTW, I hope you know what happened to the kids that jailbroke the first Gen WP devices. They got hired by MS and were given a T shirt, if my memory is good.
So... that's that.
It's hilarious how you people believe that is easy to exploit WP8, Devices that use it have Secure Boot and Bitlocker so exploiting the boot process is practically impossible, exploiting on app-level is also hard as all apps run over a sandbox and the user has no administrator privileges so you can't use the sandbox exploitation available for Windows RT.
Plus there's overall no appeal for hacking it other than it runs over NT.
I think we should do it, there is nothing to loose, but it shouldn't be for jail breaking but for allowing file system access similar to Windows RT
Everybody can try to found a exploit.
If somebody will have luck, he will be the man....
But like people here say...
Its very very hard!
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It's better for Microsoft (in the long run) that the OS will not be jailbroken: Jailbroken devices can install pirated applications, and pirated applications makes application developers angry.
Currently, app devs have no choice but to develop their applications to the 2 major OSs out there (iOS and Android), and know that in some point it is quite likely that people who jailbreak their devices can install pirated copies of their applications.
In the long run, as WP would start gaining major market share, application developers would be more keen to focus their development for WP as they'd know their property could not be pirated (if, supposedly, WP will remain unhacked).
This is of course only hypothetical - there's no protection which is made by men and cannot be hacked by men, and I'm more than sure that the more user-base and interest WP gains, the more likely is that someone would find a loophole in the OS and it'd be jailbroken...
And maybe not
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I am as well very certain that Microsoft will not allow for Jailbreaking of the devices. They have some programs that will get you a free dev account to develop on top of the Plattform but they don't Support changes to the Plattform itself. If you want to make your Point about giving Devs certain APIs go to wpdev.uservoice.com and Support them with your votes.
As for jailbreaking WP: I'm sure it can be done because in the end: techniques exist to exploit basically everything but as was already said: Microsoft isn't making it easy.
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I am as well very certain that Microsoft will not allow for Jailbreaking of the devices. They have some programs that will get you a free dev account to develop on top of the Plattform but they don't Support changes to the Plattform itself. If you want to make your Point about giving Devs certain APIs go to wpdev.uservoice.com and Support them with your votes.
As for jailbreaking WP: I'm sure it can be done because in the end: techniques exist to exploit basically everything but as was already said: Microsoft isn't making it easy.
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It may be possible, but as for now they have closed damn near every hole we could think of. I'd say the only way we can hope for SOME progress is if we can exploit the root certificate and policies somehow. I know GoodDayToDie had a few good potential ideas. It's not that the device NEEDS to be jailbroken, we need to be given more trust. I feel as if Microsoft automatically feels like we will screw everything up so it's being our overprotective mother instead. We all know what happens when you are too overprotective to those you care about.....
With that said, if we can just be given a LITTLE more freedom.. That's all I ask for. I don't think we would have to worry about any type of malware since the App Hub process is smart enough to give me the red X if I'm trying to call MessageBox.Show() from a background task.
/endrant.
What if we paid you the bounty?
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iOS is certified afaik for government use, so the business security issue is specious. Not everybody will hack their device anyway.
There are different levels of security certifications, similarily to Mil-Spec Standards that exist for a lot of different criteria. Allowing people to do more with their devices isn't really at the core of Microsoft's concerns here. They don't try to push it though as they want applications in the Store and not on the web. Piracy is likely to play a role here too.
As for a bounty to make a JailBreak happen - it might be an incentive for certain developers to start looking into it. With WP7 the way most of the time was to hack the Bootloader and then flash a custom ROM to allow for additional access. With WP8 people might need to look into other ways in given that Secure Boot is likely to be a very hard nut to crack. Given that the original Jailbreak for WP7 relied on custom certificates it's likely that Microsoft invested there to close this off better but it's of course still worth investigating.
The more important part in the end would be to get Microsoft to make more available through the official APIs. They are extending those and this has made more functionality available every time they did a major update to the OS (Mango, Apollo).
Another point to note is that native interop is now part of the regular SDK. It's therefore likely that native APIs will be better protected against accesses from unauthorized Apps than they have been in WP7 (where the problem was getting native code to run at all).
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if enough people sign, then yes I do. I'm convinced that many iOS and android users would try a windows phone. There would be far more developers making apps also.
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Not trying to be negative but I don't think the would care. On their won suggestion site (http://windowsphone.uservoice.com/forums/101801-feature-suggestions/suggestions/2281201-custom-sounds-for-sms-mms-email-notifications-e) the haven't even responded to the 40,000 + petitions that people have been voting for 2 years for custom MMS\SMS; something that is so easy to do.
Thanks for everyone's responses. I just went back to my gn2. I found too many compromises in wp8. The funny thing is, I use a wp8 launcher on android and it's much more versatile than wp8 itself. The l920 was also a disappointment. I'm no stranger to phone cameras and I was rarely able to take a good picture with it. I like the l920's design better than the gn2, but not much else.
Hi!
I have few apps that are getting nice number of daily downloads on windows phone marketplace, but my main problem is that I'm having problem finding a decent ad-network for them. I'm currently using inneractive and the income is really bad. Which ad-network are you guys using on windows phone? I'm looking for a banner and interstitial provider.
Depends on where your traffic comes from. You wont find networks which offer good fill rates and revenues across geographies for Windows.
The best bet for you would be to try other aggregators like Smaato or Adiquity.
What about adMob? I though it works everywhere.
Some Options
präsä said:
Hi!
I have few apps that are getting nice number of daily downloads on windows phone marketplace, but my main problem is that I'm having problem finding a decent ad-network for them. I'm currently using inneractive and the income is really bad. Which ad-network are you guys using on windows phone? I'm looking for a banner and interstitial provider.
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I have been using Pubcenter and Inneractive ads. Though both are generating very low income I use them as there are not many options. Have you looked into adrotator? If you are developing for WP8 then you can take a look at admob; They recently launched WP8 beta SDK ( Not available in all countries).
Options include (Haven't tested them myself)
millennial media
inmobi
smaato
Hope this helps.
Did you find your ad network?
May I know which network did you tried, and how's the income?
We are trying to find a decent network to publish our ads, but... it's the same problem, we don't know which is popular in developers.
präsä said:
Hi!
I have few apps that are getting nice number of daily downloads on windows phone marketplace, but my main problem is that I'm having problem finding a decent ad-network for them. I'm currently using inneractive and the income is really bad. Which ad-network are you guys using on windows phone? I'm looking for a banner and interstitial provider.
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adIquity only got WP7 SDK
Do you use it for WP7/8?
Bryan Ribero said:
Hi,
It takes time for any app to achieve or to gain user credibility, you've to have patience for that. There are ad networks who gives right platform to app. Nowadays AdIquity is popular, you can try them or else you can try Smaato.
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Hi Sohan
I don't use any SDK at this moment. I am seeking a ad network that can work on CPC or CPI(prefer).
And I need to monitor the click with our own statistics.
I went through inMobi console yesterday
It's the best for Advertiser to be honest. We don't need to mail someone to ask around, and we can put our own trace url.
But as a developer, I don't see many apps using inMobi on WP.
And as a user, all ads in app I noticed was AdDuplex.
Their homepage was filled with Android and iPhone examples.
So I have no idea how many people seriously using this.
Can you name a few apps using your service?
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Which Windows SDK are you using?
You can try out InMobi. They have support for Windows 7 and 8. Do check this link:
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Has anyone tried AdMob for Windows 8 yet? I have been using pubcenter, and it is not great, with a low fill rate...
Looking for extra revenues of to launch CPC/CPI campaigns for Windows Phone ?
You should try AdDeals Ad Network for Windows Phone
It provides:
* Free cross-promotion for developers (1:1)
* Additional revenues (that's not a banner ad network so any developer using banners can include AdDeals!)
* Quality ads, quality content for your users
And for advertisers:
* You can run CPC / CPI campaigns by yourself easily.
* Target countries and more
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Has anyone tried AdMob for Windows 8 yet? I have been using pubcenter, and it is not great, with a low fill rate...
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I am using AdMob for my WP8 games. The SDK is ugly, I think it crashes a lot, but it provides a consisnent income, equal to my Android income.
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I am using AdMob for my WP8 games. The SDK is ugly, I think it crashes a lot, but it provides a consisnent income, equal to my Android income.
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Great. I am currently have apps in Android Play store only. I am thinking to publish in Windows store but afraid the ROI is very bad and not many users will download.
and for V4C adds? what would you recommend?