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Just got through watching day 2 of the Google IO event. Android will soon get features like Apps2SD, remote wipe, OTA application downloads when purchasing from the web android market on your computer to one or all android devices you own, MS Exchange support, Browser access to hardware including camera, accelerometer, using your android phone as a Remote controller for Google TV-coming this fall and even leverage keyboard and speech to txt for keyboard functions for typing on GTV.
I just cant wait to see what for these to be released. What do you think ?
There's already 5 of these threads.
Seriously?! There are not 3, not 8, but 12 Froyo threads on the first page alone. Not only can you not search, but you must be blind.
Think before you post...
As there appear to be a significant number of threads on this topic as it is, I am going to close this one.
Regards,
Today at the Google IO keynote, Google announced the new features that Android 2.2 code named "Froyo" will introduce. Android 2.2 will be available via update for the super popular HTC EVO 4G phone this July.
One of the many improvements that Android 2.2 will bring is better performance when running applications. They have made improvements to how applications are compiled that allows apps to run more efficiently, which ultimately allows the applications to run faster and smoother than ever before. Android's web browser Chrome, has also been improved with a 2-3x javascript performance boost using the V8 engine which allows web apps to load a lot faster with Android 2.2. During the live demonstration using Sun's standard Spider javascript test, Chrome on Android 2.2 out performed the same phone running Android 2.1 and even outperformed the Apple iPad running Safari!
Google also announced that Android 2.2 will improve the Chrome browser by adding better HTML 5 support which will allow the browser to utilize features of the phone that were never possible in previous Android OS versions. These new features include the ability for the browser to utilize the phone's accelerometer in web based apps such as Google Maps to change the viewing angle instead of having to use on-screen controls. They also demonstrated how HTML 5 will allow you to use the phone's camera in web-based apps such as Google Buzz to take a picture and share it right from your web-browser! To top it off, Android 2.2 will be the first mobile operating system that will have native flash support. With Android 2.2, the Chrome web browser will have full Adobe Flash Player 10.1 support to allow you to view flash-based websites, play flash games, and more! This is something that not even the iPhone is capable of doing!
While many smartphones already support push notifications to receive email, instant messages, and other notifications instantly. Google is taking this idea to a whole new level with their Cloud to Device messaging API. This new feature allows users to send commands to their Android device to launch applications, perform tasks, and much more. For example, if a user is viewing Google Maps on his desktop computer, with one-click in his desktop browser, the phone will automatically launch Google Maps and open up to the same location that was being viewed on the desktop browser. This is going to be really useful for users who need to quickly switch from their desktop/laptop environment to their phone in a moments notice!
One of the most exciting features for our readers is that Android 2.2 will add a feature that turns your Android device into a portable hotspot. This feature will create a WiFi network that provides internet connectivity for up to 8 WiFi-capable devices using the 3G or 4G mobile networks. While Google didn't say if this will require an additional monthly fee for a tethering plan, we suspect that this feature will require the tethering plan on your phone which is usually an additional $30/month.
While Google said that there are over 20 new enterprise features, they only mentioned that in Android 2.2 there would be Microsoft Exchange support, including auto-discovery, integration with global address book, forced security policies, remote wiping of the device, the ability to easily move application data from one phone to a new Android device, and many more enterprise friendly features that would be announced in the near future.
If you are currently an Android user, you know how great Google's voice search is for searching the web using your own voice. While their voice search feature is already very good, they demonstrated that voice recognition has improved since Android 2.1 as well as a new feature that uses Google Voice called "intentions". "Intentions" is designed to work like a personal assistant, if you say "Call Fifth Floor Restaurant" it will search for the restaurant based on your GPS location, find the phone number for this restaurant, and automatically place the call for you. In Android 2.2 Google Voice also will have a voice translation feature that will translate and speak almost anything you say into another language. This is going to be a must have feature for anyone who travels frequently!
There are also going to be several updates the the Android Market Place including:
Automatic Updates - The ability to have all of your applications automatically update when new versions are available, instead of having to choose to manually update each application.
Google's Auto-Fill Search - Uses Google's Auto-fill search to guess at what you are trying to search for as you begin to type in your search keywords, just as you see on Google's web search.
Search within application data - Now allows you to search within application data such as financial documents, office documents, spreadsheets etc, so that you can find your personal information more quickly and efficiently!
Install/Move Apps to SD Card - With Android 2.2 you can move large applications to the SD card to free up internal memory, and you can even configure Android 2.2 to automatically install large apps to the SD card when internal memory is low.
Desktop Android Marketplace - You will now be able to access the Android marketplace via your desktop on your web-browser. From the desktop version of the marketplace you can view your Android devices, which apps you already have installed, and purchase applications. If you have an Android 2.2 device, when you purchase apps from your desktop, they will be automatically pushed & downloaded to your Android 2.2 device via 3G/4G connectivity without having to tether via USB to sync the application to your phone!
Google also announced a new feature to Android 2.2 that will allow users to access and stream their entire music library from their desktop computer or media center device to their Android device via WiFi, 3G, or 4G! Google has partnered with Sprint & HTC to provide the new HTC EVO 4G to all the developers who attended the Google IO conference. Google said the HTC EVO 4G will provide consumers with the best Android experience possible with it's 4.3in screen, 8mp camera, HDMI output, and most of all the first phone to use 4G technology to provide speeds up to 10mbit/sec!
July? Really? Do you have any other outside sources to confirm that? If so, that kicks some major ass.
http://www.mobilecrunch.com/2010/05/20/htc-desire-incredible-android-2-2-froyo/
Thanks notown775!
Wicked!....if its true!
I doubt it will be in july, froyo may one out publicly and be pushed to the N1 in july but not to the evo, because of sense UI.
I would agree with July as some have mentioned that it might be released wth Froyo 2.2 on June 4th. Since that timeline is very near a July push is more than welcomed news. It's kind of like having a 1.5Ghz processor now instead of 1.00Ghz I think the improvement is going to be spectacular.
There will so many many new phones out and I will be broke by the end of the year
Too bad they were not all GSM based phones so I could just swap out my SIM card and have just one phone number or use the google voice and call it a day
Ummmm, "second half of the year" can be July, or it can be December. It doesn't mention anywhere that it's going to be July.
Judging by past HTC updates, I highly doubt it will be in July. And if HTC does get it, you can be sure Verizon/Sprint etc will be taking it before it goes OTA and disabling the built-in tether, delaying it even longer.
.....yeah its official, July 4th @ 7:05am it will be in my hands :-D
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they keep mentioning the EVO 4g, so i wouldnt put it past them to have it ready by july.
that sounds to good to be true and too soon for the supersonic.where are you guys getting all the infos from anyway?
2.2 should run fantastic on the Evo hardware. Doubt the update will be allowed OTA on Sprint as soon as it's available from Google, if history is any teacher.
Hopefully WP7 takes a lesson from both Android and iPhone: regular OS updates that enhance functionality on a MOBILE platform.
Either way, whenever the update gets pushed down, it will be a good thing.
Well i doubt we will get the update in july, but engadget said HTC released a statement saying most 2010 phones will get the update. So n1, Desire, Incredible, and the Evo. Most phones by htc in 2010 have ran sense UI so i dont think that will be as big a problem now to get the update, not as much as Sprint pushing it to the Evo will be with the built in teether. engadget.com/2010/05/21/htc-most-phones-launched-in-2010-will-get-android-2-2/
I think the EVO will get priority from HTC since it is essentially their "flagship" device.
We can always hope.
Let's say there's a two or three month delay between Evo release and 2.2 availability - will 2.2 break ROM's created since the 6/4 release? Or any other apps?
That's what stinks.
Technically it should be pretty soon.
I believe the reason it took so long for the Hero to get 2.1 is because it was coming from 1.5 or 1.6 (I don't remember). Since HTC already has 2.1 running with Sense, upgrading to 2.2 with Sense shouldn't be all that difficult considering the bulk of changes are under the hood and have no changes made to the UI itself.
I wonder...what makes Android upgrades more difficult: changes in UI, or under the hood? Any developers out there that can chime in on this?
I think the major problem here is the carrier. I'm sure OS upgrades have to pass some internal control on the carrier, which explains why Nexus One users get updates immediately.
Nexus One got it so quickly due to the fact it didn't have sense UI. Like a computer getting upgraded windows or MAC or Linux, its easy to upgrade the OS but when you have UI its more difficult to keep everything working properly. And it would be a stupid move for HTC to not have this ready for Tue EVO 4g a few weeks, NO days after its released on the N1 !
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I wonder...what makes Android upgrades more difficult: changes in UI, or under the hood? Any developers out there that can chime in on this?
I think the major problem here is the carrier. I'm sure OS upgrades have to pass some internal control on the carrier, which explains why Nexus One users get updates immediately.
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I believe the UI is the biggest problem. Look at CLIQ or Hero or xperia's phone. Also coming from 1.5 Sense to 2.1 Sense is probably a lot more work coming from 2.1 Sense to 2.2 Sense.
HTC offers the updates on their site I believe, not sure if it has anything to do with the carrier.
This one might, as 2.2 enables tethering and hot-spot capabilities. I'm sure carriers will have something to say about that - they have so far.
2.2 isn't as huge an upgrade from 2.1 as it was from 1.5 to 2.1. 2.2 Should be out a lot quicker, as i doubt sense will have to be updated that much
Hello,
I am wondering if anyone has any information about the supposed MS update which was to take place on February 7th?
Also, are we going to be notified of this directly by MS through our phone's update feature or Zune? What I mean, is our hacked rom capable of detecting those official updates?
Any information about this will be most welcome.
Thanks guys.
http://www.engadget.com/2011/01/11/wp7-update-with-faster-app-load-times-copy-and-paste-is-real-r/
http://pocketnow.com/windows-phone/microsoft-to-unveil-major-wp7-update-at-2011-mwc
http://www.windows7news.com/2011/02/02/microsoft-details-upcoming-wp7-update/
This would be good to know. Especially if the update includes more than what their website says: http://www.microsoft.com/windowsphone/en-us/features/update-info.aspx
Copy and paste is good (not sure why they missed this from the start being that iPhone got mocked for this so much at their beginning), but I really think they need more in this update.
Does the update have:
- Updated BING to have navigation
- The ability to attach videos to emails/texts (I understand what they are doing here, pushing people to use their "Skydrive")
If it is a "yes" to both of these, I will be jumping back into Windows Phone 7 from Android. The Windows Phone 7 is super slick I think. The number of apps is lacking, but hopefully people will get on board (yahoo fantasy football, espn, etc).
From neowin.net:
Neowin received confirmation from multiple sources, that pins the first Windows Phone 7 update for March 8.
According to the sources - including someone well placed inside a European carrier - the update has been delayed due to last minute changes by Microsoft and/or OEMs. The update must then be tested by carriers for two-three weeks prior to launch.
Updates:
The first update to Windows Phone 7 brings copy & paste, CDMA device support, large performance improvements and better marketplace search. The update, entitled "NoDo" will be the first in a series of updates over the coming months, according to Microsoft. "Mango" is rumored to be next update for Windows Phone 7, which is pinned to bring multi-tasking for third party apps, HTML5 and the IE9 browser engine to the platform.
Supposedly delivered either through Zune or via OTA - but as our ROM has been 'fixed' by the various cooks, i'll probably hold off from either...
I was a long time Windows Mobile user. Having started on a PDA (Dell Axim) and then moving on to a Cingular HTC model and finally an HTC Fuse. I was pretty excited about Windows Phone 7 but when the wait became too long, I finally went to Android. At the time, I was a little miffed about no Outlook Syncing and VPN on Windows Phone 7 (which I could do via Google's services and CompanionLink) so I've gone through two upgrades of my Android Phones, all Samsung’s (Currently with Skyrocket.) I also own the pretty awesome ASUS Transformer Prime tablet. My work phone is the lackluster (but only Verizon option) Windows Phone 7 HTC Trophy. So, I do get a Windows 7 fix but find that I rarely use it. But, I've always pulled for Windows Phone to succeed.
I enjoy Android to an extend but my life revolved around Windows (work and home) and I often find that I can't do much productive work on the Android platform. I love to consume media (Flipboard and Google Reader mainly) but even with my keyboard dock, I just can't feel productive.
That all looks to change for me with SURFACE, Windows 8 and Windows Phone 8. I love the one ecosystem that is finally coming to shape (I am also an XBOX owner) and the Pro line of the SURFACE tablets look to be what I am looking for. Windows Phone 8 looks to make some impressive improvements and the wait for both Surface and Windows Phone 8 devices seems to be pretty hard.
Can't wait!
I am in complete agreement about the Microsoft ecosystem coming together.
I had several WinMo 5.x and 6.x phones ending with the slow to age HD2.
I went to Android by choice and find HTC's Android Sense works in the business world very well. However, iPads and Android tablets are truly consumption devices and painful for much else.
Apple and Android are being attacked on a front they didn't see coming. Microsoft dominates livingrooms with Xbox. They also dominate in computer OS. However, people demand portability and simplicity.
Microsoft Surface easily replaces, laptop, tablet and e-reader....in a GUI that they have begun to learn with Xbox and possibly Windows Phone 7.
How fantastic to have one Metro GUI for every aspect of your life....coupled with high quality, cutting edge hardware.
FINALLY MICROSOFT!!
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And I will echo you again. The ecosystem is what is what is drawing me. I've had good times with Android but I don't want to be a hybrid when it comes to my gadgets. The wait for WP8 and Surface is going to be hard.
Until then, I'll continue to enjoy my Droid tablet and phone and play a lot of WOPR:Wargames!
I'm really excited about this too.
I've always thought the windows kernel is just top notch in a lot of ways. It's great to see Microsoft finally push this stuff into the phone. The convergence of the desktop and phone ecosystems can only mean good things for us devs and the end-user.
Good software is the key of mobile market,Microsoft showed us with Wp7 most important thing was not hardware.Wp7 was faster and stabler than android even with poor hardware.And now Wp8 coming harder.I am very exciting for native game development on wp8.I think wp8 phones will be best platform for gaming..
And metro ui is original and useful..
Do Windows Phones sync well with Google Services? (Calendar, contacts, etc.) That is really my favorite function of my Android phone is the syncing of Google Services.
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Do Windows Phones sync well with Google Services? (Calendar, contacts, etc.) That is really my favorite function of my Android phone is the syncing of Google Services.
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If you are going to buy into the Microsoft ecosystem, I would ditch Google Services. Instead, try Microsoft's equivalent, Hotmail. You set it up as an Exchange server. All calendar, email and contacts sync.
Is there any reason you are attached to Google stuff?
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If you are going to buy into the Microsoft ecosystem, I would ditch Google Services. Instead, try Microsoft's equivalent, Hotmail. You set it up as an Exchange server. All calendar, email and contacts sync.
Is there any reason you are attached to Google stuff?
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Not so much attached but liking it. Google Reader and YouTube are my favorite mobile apps and I hope someone will finally make good versions of them for Windows Phone. I do like syncing with Outlook via CompanionLink and I think they have a sync for Windows Phone/Live too...
Use SuperTube for your YouTube-worries. It gets the job done nicely (also allows downloading of Videos btw.). MetroTube looked a little nicer but it's gone due to pressure from Google to remove it.
As for Sync: Google somewhat supports the Exchange Active Sync Protocol so you can sync your Contacts, E-Mail and Appointments from your GMail Account. Due to the fact that the protocol was developed for Microsoft's Exchange Server it does not support Features in GMail that don't exist on other platforms - you would have to check to see if you're using some of those.
Also sometimes Google has been slow to allow certain features they allow for other platforms (for whatever reason). E.g. WP7 learned in Version 7.5 to sync multiple calendars/account. It took several months before that worked with GMail - problem being that Google's servers didn't offer the other calendars.
Apps accessing Google Reader should be available in the Marketplace.
I'm not using Google services aside from YouTube so I can't be more specific. Hope it helps anyway.
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Not so much attached but liking it. Google Reader and YouTube are my favorite mobile apps and I hope someone will finally make good versions of them for Windows Phone. I do like syncing with Outlook via CompanionLink and I think they have a sync for Windows Phone/Live too...
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Oh, and forgot to mention Google Music...I did download the Google Music App for my HTC Trophy but it has a ways to go.
If the XBOX Music player will allow for playlists for streaming music and allow those playlists to sync between the phone, Surface, PC and XBOX, then I won't need Google Music! Or even Spotify!
garak0410 said:
Do Windows Phones sync well with Google Services? (Calendar, contacts, etc.) That is really my favorite function of my Android phone is the syncing of Google Services.
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Yes my phone syncs with google contacts, google calendar and gmail including saving contacts to google.
For Youtube I use Youtube Pro.
For gmail I use IM+
I don't use google reader so not sure about that one.
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Yes my phone syncs with google contacts, google calendar and gmail including saving contacts to google.
For Youtube I use Youtube Pro.
For gmail I use IM+
I don't use google reader so not sure about that one.
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I am convinced I can move my syncing over to live without a problem. I can still do YouTube and Google Reader through those third party apps. I am digging Flipboard for my Google Reader stuff, so here's hoping it will come to the Metro Ecosystem.
garak0410 said:
Oh, and forgot to mention Google Music...I did download the Google Music App for my HTC Trophy but it has a ways to go.
If the XBOX Music player will allow for playlists for streaming music and allow those playlists to sync between the phone, Surface, PC and XBOX, then I won't need Google Music! Or even Spotify!
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There's 3 Google Music apps that I can see in the market.
Gooroovster (free while in beta)
Cloud City Music (free)
CloudMuzik ($1)
I used Gooroovster and it's great. Looks and acts like the stock WP7.5 music player.
I'd be surprised if MS didn't make their own cloud music service for Windows Phone 8.
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I was unbelievably sceptical about Microsoft gaining any real traction with the new WP, but it does look like it's going to come into its own within the next year so. I personally was put off before because of a lack of high-resolution displays (which the OS didn't even support AFAIK) so will be on Android for the next year or so, but I'm hoping next time around I can seriously consider Windows Phone 8 or its successor.
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Use SuperTube for your YouTube-worries. It gets the job done nicely (also allows downloading of Videos btw.). MetroTube looked a little nicer but it's gone due to pressure from Google to remove it.
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Slightly off topic, but I find PrimeTube to be a worthy successor to MetroTube
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Do Windows Phones sync well with Google Services? (Calendar, contacts, etc.) That is really my favorite function of my Android phone is the syncing of Google Services.
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My Live account is actually my Gmail address, so I have them both synched up to my phone (contacts, calendars and emails). The aforementioned PrimeTube has my Youtube subscriptions covered. I'm not sure what else you could want, besides Google+, but with the Facebook and Twitter functionality on WP being the way it is... I kind of forget about my Google+ account.
Edit: I find Windows Phone is a slow burn. At first everyone I knew sort of shunned it and was all "Why would you even want a Windows Phone?" but as time wore on I've won over a few converts, and I'm seeing more and more people dissatisfied with their current smart phones... and it's not over stuff that can be fixed without major overhauls (like just the way things work, UI and so on).
A friend of mine got an Omnia 7 cheap unlocked after owning an iPhone and an Xperia of some sort. She was never happy with a smart phone until she got onboard with WP. My mum too. Smart phones were always too complicated for her, but now she's finally joined the computer age. My sister has had an Omnia 7 for a while as well after being intensely frustrated with her old iPhone, and she's convinced her partner to get one (it was pretty easy after he realised Office was on there. If I knew that was all it took to convince him I would have said sooner lol).
Anyway I guess my point is, Windows Phone is getting there. Slowly, but surely. Windows Phone 8 is definitely the dramatic step forward the platform needs. I'm pretty happy to have been on board from the get go, and I'm excited to see where things lead
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Slightly off topic, but I find PrimeTube to be a worthy successor to MetroTube
My Live account is actually my Gmail address, so I have them both synched up to my phone (contacts, calendars and emails). The aforementioned PrimeTube has my Youtube subscriptions covered. I'm not sure what else you could want, besides Google+, but with the Facebook and Twitter functionality on WP being the way it is... I kind of forget about my Google+ account.
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Thank's for all of the app tips. I am not a "Google" fanboy but when I finally let them take me to the cloud with my contacts, email, RSS feeds and podcasts, I kind of liked it. All of their apps are a joy to use (Google Reader, YouTube, Maps, Listen.)
But I am ready to transition to Surface/Windows Phone 8. If it wasn't a bad "buy", I'd pick up an old TITAN until the WP8's come out so I can begin my transition to Microsoft services. My work issued Verizon HTC Trophy just doesn't cut it yet...
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Use SuperTube for your YouTube-worries. It gets the job done nicely (also allows downloading of Videos btw.). MetroTube looked a little nicer but it's gone due to pressure from Google to remove it.
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Slightly off-topic, but in case you guys didn't know, MetroTube is back in the Marketplace
It's by far the smoothest and most functional WP7 app that I've used.
Also, with your original post about being 'into' the Google ecosystem--I was like that when I used Android, and then I gradually switched over a lot of my services to the Live equivalents (hotmail, calendar, etc). I found that the first party app integrations were much more reliable than the third party clients.
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And I will echo you again. The ecosystem is what is what is drawing me. I've had good times with Android but I don't want to be a hybrid when it comes to my gadgets. The wait for WP8 and Surface is going to be hard.
Until then, I'll continue to enjoy my Droid tablet and phone and play a lot of WOPR:Wargames!
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I am in the same boat.
Cant agree with all of you more. Been using WP& on my HD2 since the early days of its release. I cant/wont use anything else now. All my RSS/email/Office on tap! Even able to connect the phone to my classroom projector for my Powerpoints! My phone is slowing dying however and can not find anything i like to replace my HD2WP7(64GB). I may have to wait until WP8 or unless i can find a 2nd hand HD2!
Last month i bought a Samsung series 7 Slate with Win8 and love it. I use it for work, i use it along with my phone (connection to the phones 3G WiFi) and regulary annoy my iPad/android mates by playing Civ5 and other games on my slate.
Ive always believed that if Microsoft pulled their finger out, they could easily group all their systems together (PC/Phones/Consoles/Online services) and win the market. Its starting to ring true as just this month, 4 friends got rid of their iPhones for WP7 after their phones broke/crashed/stopped working.
People need to stop being fooled by fake advertising and apple design and move away from the dark side to app intergration and one platform!
Anyway, my rant over! Keep it up Microsoft!
I was sold on the Windows phone concept in the days of the Zune HD, which was leaps and bounds ahead of its time (well, ahead by a few years at least) in terms of fluidity and interface. I really love the direction that Microsoft has taken with the next generation of its OS, and I was very happy to see Surface premiered.
The only problem I had when I was using the ZHD was the very limited market for apps it provided, but that seems to be a thing of the past.
As a 15 year old; music, reading & learning, art/designing/detailing, photo editing, gaming, and YouTube passionate, which would be better for me: Lenovo Yoga Book's Android version or Windows 10 version? Also, will the Android version get Updates later? i.e., it's in Marshmallow, will it update it's version later? Thank you in advance for replying!
No security updates since October 2016. Still on version 6.0.1.
I see no longevity in this device. I feel like I've wasted $500 on a product that was a quick sell for lenovo and then it gets pushed back onto it's legacy line and we never hear from them again regarding updates. I'm hugely disappointed in my purchase and in Lenovo.
There are apps on the marketplace that require Android 7 and we're stuck on 6.0. What does that tell you? Not one developer has stepped forward to create ROMS or even a 100% legitimate unlock and root process. I wish I had kept my Pixel C and returned this.
Hey,
unlike Skullpuck, I have Windows version and I am quite happy with the device. Now don't get me wrong, he/she makes some valid points; I agree with them and that is why I chose Windows version. Nowadays for android device is indeed necessary to have community around it, to support it because developer usually end its support after about 1 year. IMHO, this isn't really the case with Windows. You do not have to worry about root, unlocking, updates to OS, custom ROMS... etc. and none of these, and more, issues really applies to Windows.
I am definitely not praising Microsoft here, in my opinion they made Windows 10 a mess, but for this device, and what it is designed to be, the Windows version of Yoga might be better - IMHO of course.
If you are interested, here is my opinion on the device as an artist tool.
I've also got the Windows version and I really love it for drawing (mainly using Mischief) and pixel art (using Pyxel edit). After two obsoleted Android tablets I picked the Windows Yoga to avoid being stuck on an outdated OS version and to get access to more robust software. So far I don't regret the choice.
I did choose the Android version because it has better performance, batterylife last longer, apps like Netflix run smoother. the android version has more options to finetune the halo keyboard and realpen. plus you can take notes on paper with your device off and still your notes get digitized. drawing with Artrage and Artflow is amazing. Artrage is included, the full version. I don't mind the delay in a security patch. Windows is every single day less secure than Android even if you run those memory and processingtime eating security suits who are up-to-date. plus you can play some pretty amazing games with good framerates etc. on the Android Book. I play NFS titles and Pro Pinball Timeshock on the highest settings. I was in the position to test the both Yoga Book versions and for me Android was the winner. The halo keyboard types nice as well, I took a short time to get used to and now I type blind just as on any other keyboard.
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I did choose the Android version because it has better performance, batterylife last longer, apps like Netflix run smoother. the android version has more options to finetune the halo keyboard and realpen. plus you can take notes on paper with your device off and still your notes get digitized. drawing with Artrage and Artflow is amazing. Artrage is included, the full version. I don't mind the delay in a security patch. Windows is every single day less secure than Android even if you run those memory and processingtime eating security suits who are up-to-date. plus you can play some pretty amazing games with good framerates etc. on the Android Book. I play NFS titles and Pro Pinball Timeshock on the highest settings. I was in the position to test the both Yoga Book versions and for me Android was the winner. The halo keyboard types nice as well, I took a short time to get used to and now I type blind just as on any other keyboard.
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I completely agree. Tested both versions and android works better in my opinion. Running windows wiht some backgroud processes drained my battery life a lot. Waking up from standy not always worked for me, many times I had to force off the device with long pressing the power button. Some workarounds are available with the advice install some older drivers, disabling update xx and so on. I wanted a device running out of the box without waiting for lenovo shipping new updates (of course is the same thing with android updates but working better out of the box). Windows updates are out frequently and is quite right, but the problems are related most on buggy drivers. I experienced the same thing mentioned by @Martend and I follow his arguments.
While both version has the same hardware, we are going to talk about the OS load weight. Definitely Android is much more lighter than windows 10, you'll have smoother experience with it, load of app to choose especially games and entertainment app. The downside about Android is until now it has limited capability for multi-tasking compared to windows, also if you need to use it for light work using desktop PC application, there are limited choice for Android. Also in Android, the OS update will depend so much to the device manufacturer support, unless you are familiar and able to load a custom ROM, still it will depend to the community behind it. In my personal experience, lenovo developer support is so terrible at this factor. I've been using a number of lenovo device ranged from Smartphone, Tablet and Laptop, Lenovo always leave their software update support early, leaving the device obsolete or bugged only after a couple of year or less. While this also happen to windows version, but it will only affect to the driver update, while windows update still going to your device came from the microsoft.
So for me, Windows version is much more fit my need. I really hope the device has more usage years longer because it less depend to the lenovo support.
So which one to pick??
. I am planning to buy YB WIN. But
1. If both Android and win versions have same configuration, can't we format and switch Windows to Android??
2. Can windows version run Microsoft office tools at its best, like excel macros, mail merge etc easily
3. Do they both(win and android) have sim slot with 4g connectivity
Can some one help
Amit2017 said:
So which one to pick??
. I am planning to buy YB WIN. But
1. If both Android and win versions have same configuration, can't we format and switch Windows to Android??
2. Can windows version run Microsoft office tools at its best, like excel macros, mail merge etc easily
3. Do they both(win and android) have sim slot with 4g connectivity
Can some one help
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Hey.
for your questions:
1. Doing "format and switch" would not have any point in my opinion, but dual boot is theoretically possible (and therefore "format and switch" as well) and there are threads here that discuss this thou at this moment it has not been done.
2. Yes, thou creating presentations might stagger a bit (depending on the content) - I specifically use OpenOffice.
3. Yes, but there are also WiFi only variants so be sure to read product description before buying.
Amit2017 said:
So which one to pick??
. I am planning to buy YB WIN. But
1. If both Android and win versions have same configuration, can't we format and switch Windows to Android??
2. Can windows version run Microsoft office tools at its best, like excel macros, mail merge etc easily
3. Do they both(win and android) have sim slot with 4g connectivity
Can some one help
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1. The hardware is identical, but boot config is so different. In windows ver, OS loaded via UEFI (BIOS is the former name) while Android depend on what it's called bootloader. This UEFI and Bootloader is cannot easily modified because its hardwrited on ROM.
2. my office suite works great. all function work normally. but don't expect like working on high performance laptop. it's actually like working with netbook
3. if you need one with LTE sim capability you should inquiry the YB1-X91L for windows version and YB1-X90L for android. While the wifi only version is ended with F, YB1-X91F and YB1-X90F