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Sony is not doing ANYTHING bout the xperia.. have they given up with it? im getting soooooo bored with the phone, theres no new panels etc. i'm never getting a windows mobile phone
http://www.engadget.com/2009/01/10/palm-pres-new-ness-event-video-now-viewable/
seems to be much much much much better than WinsMo will ever get!
There's alot more to WM than meets the eye you know. The Xperia is hyped with the Panels in mind but it's certainly not the only feature there's alot more that can be done.
I, myself have removed the panels completely, I don't like them and never used them. I currently use the Panels button to open my comm manager so I can change what's on and what's not.
Have you installed any other software for you phone at all? Just a few interfaces to mention for instance:
TouchFlo
SPB Pocket Plus
SPB Mobile Shell
Im sure there's more. The bottom two offer a heck of alot of customization for the "look" of your phone. Skins/Icons. You could have it looking like an iPhone if you wanted, or there abouts.
On top of that there's more programs that you can install than you can shake a stick at. It's much like a PC, the amount of things you can do with it is amazing.
I'll agree there are problems with the device, but the problem with the majority is they always look on the negatives and not the positives. Sometimes the phone is a bit hard to use and after showing a few friends of mine the phone, they have really liked it but I have had to put them off the phone because they without being rude don't have the knowledge to use the phone and be happy with it to it's fullest.
Windows Mobile really is what you make it, some like it, some hate it. It's not the greatest of operating systems for phones and it's probably one of the most hardest to use and learn, but the options you have are well worth the effort.
colourblind said:
Sony is not doing ANYTHING bout the xperia.. have they given up with it? im getting soooooo bored with the phone, theres no new panels etc. i'm never getting a windows mobile phone
http://www.engadget.com/2009/01/10/palm-pres-new-ness-event-video-now-viewable/
seems to be much much much much better than WinsMo will ever get!
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Congratulations, did you have to make a thread about it?
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Congratulations, did you have to make a thread about it?
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what's so wrong of posting it here? i think he has the rights to express his feelings.
mate, i hated windows mobile before! yes i did, even though i'm a microsoft "fan" but when i used my X1, i started customizing it in a way that really fits my needs, and now i'm using my phone as a computer which is always in my pocket!
you can find alot of cool stuff in the forum, customize your phone and play arround with it, change all default values (be careful not to change something that will make you hard reset, and always backup). Customize the phone, windows is the most flexible and customizable OS ever (sorry Linux fans).
let me know if you need any help
The thing that concerns ME is that SE and HTC have parted ways, and no longer co-operate.
That means the support level for our HTC-made Xperia X1's is going down the tubes. HTC is the one most likely responsible for firmware upgrades to their hardware, so now that SE and HTC no longer co-operate/partner I highly doubt HTC will be making any firmware updates for our phone.
Consider this... the HTC Touch HD has been released after the X1, yet has already receive one or two firmware updates by HTC to fix various issues. The X1 has received ZERO updates.
SE has basically decided to give up on the Xperia X1 from what we can see, since they moved to a new manufacturer.
Of course, this doesn't mean the great developers at XDA will not be coming out with home brew firmwares and fixes, but it does mean that official support from SE is probably going to be winding down and dying...
why else would a simple fix to the bluetooth problem (which MANY people here have found) is not being pushed out? Because SE doesn't want to pay HTC to release the firmware fix since they no longer co-operate.
Oh well. I hope to be proven wrong, but the fact HTC is pushing out firmware updates for all their devices but NOT the Xperia X1 (despite being released longer) confirms this.
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Sony is not doing ANYTHING bout the xperia.. have they given up with it? im getting soooooo bored with the phone, theres no new panels etc. i'm never getting a windows mobile phone
http://www.engadget.com/2009/01/10/palm-pres-new-ness-event-video-now-viewable/
seems to be much much much much better than WinsMo will ever get!
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U said it "seems to be much much much much better than WinsMo will ever get!".
R U using it so you knew it is much more better ?
go buy a nokia s40 phone and then use your x1 again. let me know what you like more and would rather use.
I allways look at this that my new X1 is as a toy for Big boy.
Its all abaut somthing changing experimenting tweaking.
I like this .
or just buy nokia 6110 make call, recive call and sleep well in the nights.
I was always under the impression that this was a dsicussion forum for the understanding and development of a set of phones.
Unfortunately lately it's become an area for people with no understanding to moan.
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Eeek! That's news to me. I was planning on buying an X1 soon (read: early next month?), but now I'm going to have to reconsider after I send Sony a line of questions. If HTC isn't making the phone anymore, who is? Or is it simply going to go out of stock after the reserves sell?
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What a load of crap.
All we know is that HTC won't be building the X2 (or whatever they end up calling it) together. We don't even know what OS is going to run on it.
However it's SE responsibilty for the software, they are working on a new firmware, whether those on branded phone will see it depends on their networks (unless you do a DIY job).
And if SE do need help from HTC with some hardware issues, HTC will need to provided it, they will be under contract and most likely will want to build future models (X3).
HTC is not going to produce "next" Sony Ericsson phone.
HTC still produces XPERIA for Sony Ericcson.
kuraudo said:
Eeek! That's news to me. I was planning on buying an X1 soon (read: early next month?), but now I'm going to have to reconsider after I send Sony a line of questions. If HTC isn't making the phone anymore, who is? Or is it simply going to go out of stock after the reserves sell?
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no-one said that,
SE aren't using HTC to develop future phone, it looks like they're using asus instead.. although it could also be that the x2 is android based :0
so has anyone seen what the Palm's new PRE can do?
hi guys, a quick update :
IM SO OVER WITH THIS CRAP PHONE. ive just changed to Samsung HD i8910 and ohmygod, what a relieve!! ive used it for 5 days and the phone has not hanged for once!! amazing, im so glad.
sony has not done anything for the xperia, and now an xperia 2 already?? lol.
my xperia is in the bin, was sooo mad at it, i smashed it and well its over.
never ever a winMo .
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hi guys, a quick update :
IM SO OVER WITH THIS CRAP PHONE. ive just changed to Samsung HD i8910 and ohmygod, what a relieve!! ive used it for 5 days and the phone has not hanged for once!! amazing, im so glad.
sony has not done anything for the xperia, and now an xperia 2 already?? lol.
my xperia is in the bin, was sooo mad at it, i smashed it and well its over.
never ever a winMo .
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dude, my xperia only turns off if i have to restart due to some registry tweak, since the R3A update, i never experienced a hang
you could have posted me your previous xperia, only if i had the money to burn i would buy another
x1, there is none that can come close
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...The X1 has received ZERO updates.
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What's so funny is that you make this statement on the XDA website. What world are you in???
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so has anyone seen what the Palm's new PRE can do?
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Yes and I find it pathetic. Good thing people are working on a WinMo port for it.
colourblind said:
hi guys, a quick update :
IM SO OVER WITH THIS CRAP PHONE. ive just changed to Samsung HD i8910 and ohmygod, what a relieve!! ive used it for 5 days and the phone has not hanged for once!! amazing, im so glad.
sony has not done anything for the xperia, and now an xperia 2 already?? lol.
my xperia is in the bin, was sooo mad at it, i smashed it and well its over.
never ever a winMo .
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Lies.....
I have seen what the new Palm Pre can do...it's a good interface but basically that's all it has good interface.
And yes I am impressed but I told myself, I will never buy a Palm because it looks like it has shifted from pda function to a P.O.S. kid's toy ... a competitor to the iphone.
I am looking for a backup device when I don't have the computer, not some stupid kid's toy.
Also...I really really want the Omnia HD...it's multimedia and out of the box experience is great, but AGAIN, symbian add-on software isn't as good. So if I were to buy a Samsung Omnia HD, I would buy it as a PMP, and I would buy a Toshiba TG01 as a Pocket PC.
But for now, Xperia has some qualities of Omnia HD and some qualities of other good and fast windows mobile phones like Toshiba TG01. Obviously Omnia HD doesn't have windows mobile, which I prefer over symbian (I've used symbian S60 first before switch to Windows Mobile), and it's also obvious that Toshiba TG01 doesn't have headphone jack and keyboard like the Xperia. So Xperia is the sort of the best of both worlds for now.
If I had cash I'd buy Toshiba TG01 and Omnia HD seperate...but if only XDA developed for the Toshiva TG01....
If there was a super godlike overkill hybrid phone that was both the Toshiba TG01 and Omnia HD...I would buy that hybrid instead...
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I am looking for a backup device when I don't have the computer, not some stupid kid's toy.
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I think we should sticky that comment to the front page. IN BIG LETTERS.
Hello everyone!
I need a piece of advice. I want to replace my Blackstone, to buy a new phone and I'm hesitating! If I was to buy a WM device, I would surely buy the Leo, since it appears to me that it's the best one, what's more, it will have an official upgrade to WM 7!
But I'm wavering because I saw pictures of the Sony X10 which seems also very nice. Both of them have capacitive screens, but won't be multitouch till they get their upgrade (to WM7 for Leo and to Android 2.0 for X10), they both have snapdragon, but none of them have an AMOLED screen.
So the question is, if I'm used to WM, will I like Android? Are there enough applications? Games? etc
Another question also, is the HD2 like the HD? I mean, do they have great hardware but no drivers to use it?
Thank you for your answers!
I think this is again, a bit of apples and oranges comparison because of the OS. You have thrown in though some of the points I would question as well. The biggest point was with the WM7 coming through the pipes and whether Android and the X10's new features are enough to bring you across.
Again for me, I'm still more excited about the HD2 because in a way, it's like buying two different phones in one. In the sense, you are getting the best of today's 6.5 right now and since it's upgradable to WM7, it will feel like a completely new phone again by the end of the year. Keep in mind as well the HD2 is good to go now with HDSPL and cooked roms. The X10 hasn't even made it out of the gate yet.
At this point, those who chose the X10 are all wishing they went the HD2 route because by then, the X10 has become boring now. All phones slowly get boring as we all went the latest stuff when it comes out. THE HD2 Gives you that.....Now and Later.
Hope this helped...
If you want AMOLED go for the OMNIA 2.I heard it is a great display.
And yes the HD2 has the same DRIVERS issue.I mean great harware and no drivers.
If you want AMOLED go for the OMNIA 2.I heard it is a great display.
And yes the HD2 has the same DRIVERS issue.I mean great harware and no drivers.
Sorry about the second post.
Some computer issues.
You might want to check Google phone Nexus One - HTC's first AMOLED with Snapdragon and Android...
I know about the Nexus One, but I don't like it because it has a resistive screen, right? so it won't have multitouch, even with a software upgrade!
Ok, it seems like I was wrong ^^
http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/07/surprise-surprise-htcs-euro-spec-nexus-one-does-multitouch/
So, now, I'm also considering the Nexus One as a good candidate ^^
It seems to me that wm6.x is a dying OS.
I love my hd2 but i am now becoming concerned that no one is developing for it, especially in the games department.
Even adobe have dropped flash support saying that wm6.x lacks the API's they need.
With no official wm7 upgrade, we will all be relying on clever people here to get wm7 or android on are HD2's
All in all I feel very disappointed. Anyone else feel the same way?
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It seems to me that wm6.x is a dying OS.
I love my hd2 but i am now becoming concerned that no one is developing for it, especially in the games department.
Even adobe have dropped flash support saying that wm6.x lacks the API's they need.
With no official wm7 upgrade, we will all be relying on clever people here to get wm7 or android on are HD2's
All in all I feel very disappointed. Anyone else feel the same way?
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Yup, didn't expect the HD2 to get obsolete so fast especially considering the amount we paid for it. Really hoped HTC would do something to keep the HD2 feeling fresh during its 2 year lifespan, but they obviously don't care about costumer service at all.
As I understand it both Samsung and HTC are lacking in this department and then people wonder why people choose the iPhone over competing phones.
If it weren't for XDA I would have given up on WM much earlier.
HD2 is ,imho, a "business" platform which would have great gaming potential.
And yes, I agree that both MS and HTC seem not to care about existing customers - they have not understood the concept of doing "iBusiness". Means, understanding the own customers and offering products and solutions which are requested by those important stakeholders.
As the posting before mine mentioned, Samsung is not better at all - they never understood customers. And I know what I am talking about...
I think even if WP7 is going more into the "iBiz" direction, it will not really succeed the way Apple did. Android will fill there. But, you never know. MS will try to move some XBox success over to the mobile platform...
In the sum, I knew about all this when I bought my HD2. In the past, I rarely used any device for more than 2 years - in this case, probably summer 2011, with iPhone 5G and Android "3rd generation", I will take my next choice... until then, I am perfectly fine with my HD2, thanks to xda.
wish34 said:
It seems to me that wm6.x is a dying OS.
I love my hd2 but i am now becoming concerned that no one is developing for it, especially in the games department.
Even adobe have dropped flash support saying that wm6.x lacks the API's they need.
With no official wm7 upgrade, we will all be relying on clever people here to get wm7 or android on are HD2's
All in all I feel very disappointed. Anyone else feel the same way?
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Yes i am afraid thats is true..you have been uber-mugged...Thank the god there is xda...and quite honestly, here you can find anything you could want(more or less) that MSFT or HTC would even sweat getting for their customers..HTC being the lesser of the 2 evil since they built this beat and beauty at the same time AND covering so effectively the visual hiddeousness of 6.x platform (visually wise)..You are not on your own, you have the greatest community ever by your side but fact remains , your purchase alone was a money drain (if you do exclude xda and take it as a winmo phone)
i bought hd2 few months ago knowing now what i ignored then about windows 6,.5 dying i would never have bought it but thanks to xda people they gave it the extra mile that was lacking and made it look way more beautiful ,like co0kies tabs, 3G switch in comm manager,and the most beautiful skins from diniks ,what else would you want ?
this sound awfull... cell phone brands leaving their customers on their own or leiving them to a community they dont control..... (don't miss understand me, XDA rocks)
But that kind of brand "policies"... S*ck
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Even a cheap chinese cell phone like "Ciphone" has it's own community to help users, give updates and apps. Cifans forum. I had the c6 and that community did a great job for me. HTC did a lot less...
Its true, I do love my HD2 very much, but if it wasn't for XDA Developers, I really would have gone for a android device instead. I am just pleased that custom ROMs, Cookie's Home Tab and MaxManila are doing so well. The reasons for not providing WP7 as an upgrade are quite poor and is something that HTC and MS can easily sort out together but are just deciding not to - I reckon anyway.
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Its true, I do love my HD2 very much, but if it wasn't for XDA Developers, I really would have gone for a android device instead. I am just pleased that custom ROMs, Cookie's Home Tab and MaxManila are doing so well. The reasons for not providing WP7 as an upgrade are quite poor and is something that HTC and MS can easily sort out together but are just deciding not to - I reckon anyway.
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The main reason that they dont is that they have set very high gaming standards for the wp7 devices for the xbox live plans they got and snapdragon's fill rate is very low to fit their needs.
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The main reason that they dont is that they have set very high gaming standards for the wp7 devices for the xbox live plans they got and snapdragon's fill rate is very low to fit their needs.
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I can understand that. Fair enough, well now I am about to flash a new ROM, I really want to try messing with MaxManila's new interface. Yeah, the HD2 may never see a fully working WP7, but as long as I have the HD2 - I don't think I'll ever get bored of messing with WM6.5/6.5.3/etc, flashing ROMs, and so on. haha. Talking about the gaming standards, I am looking forward to what developers come up with.
This is true and I hate that no sites have had the balls to post about this fact. It's just something both companies I guess feel they DON'T have to take care of and don't feel it's any loss anger a few customers about this issue. The hardware issue is such bull**** in my opinion. This isn't the first time there were phones with different hardware. Simply make some apps for certain phones and obviously the higher end apps will support the higher end phones. The games has been a big issue, but nothing really to care about. FPSECE covers most of that. As far as XDA while I do love the site and it does develop a lot of new and unique things for the HD2 recently it's mostly been custom UIs that are just flooding the HD2 section.
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The main reason that they dont is that they have set very high gaming standards for the wp7 devices for the xbox live plans they got and snapdragon's fill rate is very low to fit their needs.
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snapdragon 1ghz cpu is the miniumum standard for Wp7 isnt it?
I would have thought the HD2 opengles was fast enough....oc better drivers
would help as chainfire has allready shown...xda to the rescue again
My point is this is the fastest cpu /phone ive ever used, its capable of far better games perfomance, but as winmo 6.5 phone its never going to see any
games such as gameloft ashphalt 5
There are several games out there that should be updated such as Cod2 and thps2, these would sell to the HD2 comunity and i doubt it would be that difficult or expensive for EA and the like to get these older tittles working
" Anyone else think MS and HTC have let us down? "
nope, can't say I do.
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That would make a seriously good topic title.
htc has let us all down.. look at sony ericsson, they have hundreds of apps and the xperia x2 is getting official rom updates now.. which feature WinMo 6.5.x (start button positioned down). it it weren't for xda, i would have used my hd2 as a weapon to injure people! Screw u MS and HTC.
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htc has let us all down.. look at sony ericsson, they have hundreds of apps and the xperia x2 is getting official rom updates now.. which feature WinMo 6.5.x (start button positioned down). it it weren't for xda, i would have used my hd2 as a weapon to injure people! Screw u MS and HTC.
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Have you used an xperia x2 lately? It is slow as a snail compared with the HD2.
It shouldn't be long until they (yes the xda gods) port us android. Windows is and will always be rubbish.
Look on the bright side, the EVO is coming so soooon.
HTC's total failure
not only HTC let us down but make us to feel as idiots that just financed their stupid OS selection by buying HD2. Personally i am wont participate in other their action, will trow away HTC HD2 (and just because the WM...otherwise i like it!) and will never ever buy another HTC product. For now the market is full with alternatives.
NO, because anyone who has done research before buying the phone would already know this. I did, and i bought it anyway, because xda will always help when ms and htc wont.
If you look through other HTC phone models on XDA, you will find that very often when the forum has come up with good ideas, and there has been a lot of interest in them, HTC (who read this forum), take it on board and add the idea to their official updates.
So if a large percentage of HD2 owners say they are dumping their HD2 phones, why should HTC bother with updates?
If you do not like your HD2 phone, or MS software, hard luck, don't complain to XDA. The forum did not twist your arm to buy it.
You would not buy a car or computer, without checking its performance first, so why buy a phone without checking its performance first.
se1988 said:
NO, because anyone who has done research before buying the phone would already know this. I did, and i bought it anyway, because xda will always help when ms and htc wont.
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I did my research there but I bought my HD2 when I read somewhere it can be upgraded to WP7. A few weeks after I bought it, well...the bad news came up.
I really like the looks and feel of the HD2 but I'm wishing HTC can give us end users an option which OS to use. I'd grab Android anytime. But hey, in a sense, MS let me down but not as much as HTC did.
ofc till xda is here and members have free time to solve problems occurring because of WM and HTC carelessness.
and pls can u explain here how u mek market research on usage of totally new phone on the market. (if u are in the 1st buyers list). i am just curious!
and still believe that companies must have responsibilities to their customers!
hello guys,
i support all of the ppl who posted that X2 dev from SE is very poor and not followed right, no customer service like it should be, alot of complaints about slow performance and other S**T, i agree 100% this is a true fact, i deleted every single apps and left basics and still slow, sometimes freezes, need to take of D**N battery to restart..blabla memory card issue..blabla WE HAD ENOUGH.
sorry for the long introduction.
i don't know if XDA Dev ppl have done this.. am new here.
i googled WM 7 for SE Xperia X2..i found alot of articles and forums saying the X2 doesn't have required hardware. i mean COME ON!
is it possible?i believe it is for XDA, remove the non-sense apps and all the additional S**T ..would it be possible?
thank you
The Xperia X2 does not meet the minimum requirements for Windows Phone 7, nor does it have the requisite hardware buttons. Windows Phone 7 is unlikely to run on the X2 or any other phone with similar specs.
SE has pledged to several updates, so there definitely will be another ROM update or two coming down the pipe...whether or not they will fix your issues remains to be seen.
In general, please do more research before posting questions like this that have been answered before. Use the darn search button!
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The Xperia X2 does not meet the minimum requirements for Windows Phone 7, nor does it have the requisite hardware buttons. Windows Phone 7 is unlikely to run on the X2 or any other phone with similar specs.
SE has pledged to several updates, so there definitely will be another ROM update or two coming down the pipe...whether or not they will fix your issues remains to be seen.
In general, please do more research before posting questions like this that have been answered before. Use the darn search button!
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SE pledged 2 updates MR1 and MR2, both of which have been released, and have fixed a few issues. I have a useable X2 now which is good, the only annoying fault its the LED notifications. I don't think however anymore updates are due
SE will not release more roms to X2.
Android it's the first priority to E now........just see X10 updates.
If Hard-SPL not releases, X2 has no future.
X2 has really dated processor, its screen does not support multi-touch and come on. SE is unable to make WM6.5 work on X2 properly, how could they do this for WM7 I can't imagine.
I don't expect anymore X2 updates from SE, anyway I am really pissed off of waiting for them to fix this piece of garbage - have already bought Nokia E72 (which is btw great smartphone, besides it's cheaper). Unfortunately nobody wants to buy my X2 even for 150 EUR....
timekille said:
I don't expect anymore X2 updates from SE, anyway I am really pissed off of waiting for them to fix this piece of garbage - have already bought Nokia E72 (which is btw great smartphone, besides it's cheaper). Unfortunately nobody wants to buy my X2 even for 150 EUR....
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perhaps, where do you come from??
I´m from gemany near by cologne.
Everything is in original packaging with accessories available?
I want to try the X2.
timekille said:
I don't expect anymore X2 updates from SE, anyway I am really pissed off of waiting for them to fix this piece of garbage - have already bought Nokia E72 (which is btw great smartphone, besides it's cheaper). Unfortunately nobody wants to buy my X2 even for 150 EUR....
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A friend of mine has E72 and says it beats all touchscreen crap out there
150 eur is a good price for a phone for playing and testing. And praying for custom ROM development. But I doubt it will be ever available. Too bad.
Hi everyone. How U think, can our X2 work with ROM from X10 mini pro? Both of them have qwerty keyboard, camera, they are sliders...
If somebody know anything about that idea please write something
no. not possible. read a little before asking dumb Qs
its like asking if a donkey can ride a monocycle
It isn't not possible, but (very)x100 difficult first HardSPL
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Hi everyone. How U think, can our X2 work with ROM from X10 mini pro? Both of them have qwerty keyboard, camera, they are sliders...
If somebody know anything about that idea please write something
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You got a pretty good razzing on this one, but I think your question was sincere so here's a little more explanation, including of the posts above.
To date, there is no user-accessible boot-loader. For example, unlike the X1, if you hose-up the X2 (let's say you delete a system file accidentally that stops the phone from loading/booting) ... the only real solution is to hook up on the internet to SE's official site and re-download the latest firmware to the phone (even though it would say you have the latest version, it will allow you to re-download).
So, when the post above talks about "HardSPL"....it's meaning that FIRST someone has to figure-out how to install a user-accessible boot-loader unto the X2.
Next, I believe that there's a big learning curve for someone to not only understand (reverse-engineer?) the hardware drivers for Windows Mobile, but how to interface with the core hardware components from Android.
Then, providing all that went well, the x10 Mini-Pro would probably NOT be a good first-fit. It might be more logical to dump a Droid onto the X2 instead. ...For at least 3 reasons:
1) The Mini-Pro is extremely low res; the X2 uses an extremely high-res display
2) The Mini-Pro is a 5mpxl camera; the X2 uses an 8.1mpxl shooter.
3) The Mini-Pro (I think) is still running an old version of Android, not even 2.1 (meaning that you wouldn't have much joy from the advanced bluetooth and other hardware features of the X2.
So, ...nothing's "impossible". But, the challenge your 'dream' presents requires a whole lot more knowledgeable hardware/software hackers to be excited about the X2 than there realistically are.
It's a crying shame, really. The X2 hardware is really sleek and awesome. And, when it runs right, it's a killer phone. (But when it doesn't....)