Has anyone using an unlocked Vibrant on AT&T successfully been able to access AT&T Hotspots? My brother has been unable to. What is necessary to auto authenticate access like what iPhones and Blackberries do? Is it based on IMEI or sim card or phone number?
ATT hotspots are designed for ATT's residential and business internet customers. When using your phone, you will need to authenticate like you would with any other phone/laptop. Using the vibrant is no different.
My point is the phone shouldn't matter once you have access rights (password)
kgbros said:
ATT hotspots are designed for ATT's residential and business internet customers. When using your phone, you will need to authenticate like you would with any other phone/laptop. Using the vibrant is no different.
My point is the phone shouldn't matter once you have access rights (password)
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Thanks for the reply. What I was referring more towards was the auto authentication used by iPhones/Blackberries. How is this being accomplished?
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I'm in Canada and I'm using FIDO. If my service provider detects two phones with the same IMEI talking at the same time, will it ban my account? Or, will it be able to detect this at all?
I have this question because I am looking at an unlimited websurfing plan offered by FIDO, only for $7! But it is available to only a list of non-PDA/no-smartphones that are purchased from FIDO. The way it works is that FIDO has a database of permited IMEIs. Only the phones with the listed IMEI can use the unlimited plan. Devices with other IMEIs are charged pay-per-use, even the phone owner is with this unlimited web surfing plan! I'm thinking, the easiest way to go around this is to ask my friend with a normal FIDO phone for an IMEI, then change the IMEI of my Tornado to that one, and then surf unlimited! (purely theory talk, not tested yet.)
My worry now is that if both my friend's and my account will be banned. That doesn't look good.
gztanwei said:
I'm in Canada and I'm using FIDO. If my service provider detects two phones with the same IMEI talking at the same time, will it ban my account? Or, will it be able to detect this at all?
I have this question because I am looking at an unlimited websurfing plan offered by FIDO, only for $7! But it is available to only a list of non-PDA/no-smartphones that are purchased from FIDO. The way it works is that FIDO has a database of permited IMEIs. Only the phones with the listed IMEI can use the unlimited plan. Devices with other IMEIs are charged pay-per-use, even the phone owner is with this unlimited web surfing plan! I'm thinking, the easiest way to go around this is to ask my friend with a normal FIDO phone for an IMEI, then change the IMEI of my Tornado to that one, and then surf unlimited! (purely theory talk, not tested yet.)
My worry now is that if both my friend's and my account will be banned. That doesn't look good.
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If the network detects 2 phones with the same IMEI then it will lockout both from the network. Besides, I'm not sure about Canada, but here in the US IMEI spoofing is illegal.
-Jay
Jay2TheRescue said:
If the network detects 2 phones with the same IMEI then it will lockout both from the network. Besides, I'm not sure about Canada, but here in the US IMEI spoofing is illegal.
-Jay
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Thanks. By "here", do you mean the US or?
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I'm in Canada and I'm using FIDO. If my service provider detects two phones with the same IMEI talking at the same time, will it ban my account? Or, will it be able to detect this at all?
I have this question because I am looking at an unlimited websurfing plan offered by FIDO, only for $7! But it is available to only a list of non-PDA/no-smartphones that are purchased from FIDO. The way it works is that FIDO has a database of permited IMEIs. Only the phones with the listed IMEI can use the unlimited plan. Devices with other IMEIs are charged pay-per-use, even the phone owner is with this unlimited web surfing plan! I'm thinking, the easiest way to go around this is to ask my friend with a normal FIDO phone for an IMEI, then change the IMEI of my Tornado to that one, and then surf unlimited! (purely theory talk, not tested yet.)
My worry now is that if both my friend's and my account will be banned. That doesn't look good.
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Yes cloning an imei nuber is illegal in pretty much all countries. why not get one of the correct phones. then since most can act as a modem over bluetooth just pair the phone and setup the manual connection. that way the imei doing the downloading is the correct phone. I do similar with mine if I want to use one of my other phones on web-n-walk without swapping sims. except now that wifirouter works I don't have to use bluetooth anymore
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Thanks. By "here", do you mean the US or?
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Yes, That's why I said "Here in the US..." I do not live in Canada, and do not know much about Canadian law, but I would assume that IMEI spoofing is illegal there as well. Whether or not its illegal the network will still lockout both devices if it detects two with the same IMEI.
-Jay
purchase a phone from fido, duplicate the imei on ur ppc--then don't use thr original phone u got from fido.
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purchase a phone from fido, duplicate the imei on ur ppc--then don't use thr original phone u got from fido.
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Thanks. for example, if I buy a LG chocolate and put its IMEI onto my Tornado, and then my phone is detected as a chocolate from then on? Will providers have other techniques to find out that my phone is not the type of phone that stated in the IMEI?
I damaged my stock rom then I flashed rom for my device downloaded from internet.In settings I see IMEI is not same as on the box.
Should I change it to IMEI as on the box or leave it.
Does anyone know if an unlocked 8525 will work on Verizons network? I've been using it on Alltel and Verizon bought them out now they want me to get a new phone. Sure hate to give this one up.
If the sim unlock has been run the there should be no reason why not...
Mind you I'm in Australia...
Cheers...
CDMA vs GSM
I went back and forth on this one. (and Welcome!!!!!)
Verizon here in the states is a CDMA (EVDO) system that doesn't use sim cards, GSM systems does. This relates to how your phone communicates on the network. Now willl a GSM phone work on a CDMA network, i think that it will. The SIM card in GSM phones supply the network with your PIM to access the network, it is tied entirely to the network not the phone. CDMA requires action from the carrier, and your access to the network is tied to phone not the network. You deactivate one phone first, then activate the second. You'll probably need to supply your IMEI to verizon and they'll load your access. Just a guess though, cause I've been with cingular/at&t since i carried around backpack sized mobile phones.
Does anyone know better?
As far as I know of, no. I don't believe it has a radio for the CDMA. Although you state you have used it on Alltel which I thought was CDMA...
What reason did they give for wanting you to get a new phone?
im trying to get my laptop to connect to AT&T 3g via [email protected] instead of default APN.
Im currently running OSX 10.5.7 and have tried a variety if scripts but nothing seems to be working.
Any ideas?
as I understand it cingular is not the same company as att?
if so then
APN is the identirier for the phone company which one of their services you wish
to take advange of it's not a site or anything
a phone company can even have several APN's depending on what
contract one use
and type anything other in the APN then what the phone company expect you to
for the contract you got
and you will get no service at all
if not then
sorry I dont really know that much about american phone companys
yah thats the problem im running into. I would like to use WAP.Cingular instead of the default ISP.CINGULAR because of the amount of savings on my monthly bill.
Thanks for the input tho.
The reason for this is, i heard you have to have the G1 plan. However, tmobile doesn't recognize an iphone, why not another smart phone not branded by them? Thus, allowing us to use web2go or "total internet" which is a lot cheaper. I currently have a wing with "total internet", and wanna keep it for the G1 since i get to keep my tmobile hotspots.
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The reason for this is, i heard you have to have the G1 plan. However, tmobile doesn't recognize an iphone, why not another smart phone not branded by them? Thus, allowing us to use web2go or "total internet" which is a lot cheaper. I currently have a wing with "total internet", and wanna keep it for the G1 since i get to keep my tmobile hotspots.
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If its branded by rogers, then it is not branded by tmobile, and thus it is NOT a "G1".
Note that the rogers dream will NOT get 3G on tmobile network.
Here's sort of a question I've been having for some time (sorry if its a thread hijack). How does the carrier know what phone you're using? Does it read it through sms messages? This would explain the reason for the phone changer in the custom sms app.
They can find it if they want, via ESN, which are all registered.
But they don't normally care.
-bZj
Yea, i decided to get the TP2 thats tmobile and get 3G speeds.
Am using the N1 on ATT, previously used different WM devices including the TP2 and I did not need to authenticate the handset via a web logon (e.g. @ Starbucks) before using the wifi to access the web. On the N1, I would need to authenticate using a web logon (user ID, PW, and type of wifi service).
Is there any app that would authenticate an Android devices running on the ATT network? I looked through the dump from the Backflip and all I could find was an app to locate ATT's hotspots.
It is my understanding that the authentication is two parts, first the IMEI of the device has to match at&t's inventory and second the IMEI of the SIM has to be attached to a valid DATA plan that included WiFi Hotspots.
Dan
Thanks, that's what I am afraid off since the N1 IMEI may not be available to AT&T...