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Be Honest- Serious Question !
we are all like a one global family participatig in various topics from basic to an advanced level and we should be very happy and accept the fact that atleast on this matter we all try and thrieve to help one another as well as nicely rebuke anyone not doing the groung work before asking any question.
Its all well an good.
Now the more serious matter and please be honest. I will make a start by admitting that ever since I bought Android phone, I ended up spending more time flashing roms after rom and radios and what nowt! My life partner also noticed that I am spendig more time hooking that phone to bloody computer than actually putting up to me ear. She thought phone was more dear to me!
What does your partner think? We might have to srart councelling services for the worse ones!
I'm single, so no problem. : D
But, I don't think I'll be flashing my Hero often. I'm starting to appreciate actually using the phone rather than updating it all the time.
no problem here ...
I flashed my Hero twice, the new Stock ROM and last week the new radio ... and I'm very happy with how it works.
Flashing on a daîly or weekle basis is something for freaks, who like to play. I've different playgrounds
Next time I flash will be Android 2.0 from HTC, until then I use it as a phone and enjoy all the nice apps
P.S. My favorite: OruxMaps, now with Geocaching features
My girl simply loves my hero, first of all she loves playing with it lol
No but with my previous phone (htc diamond) I changed roms more often because it simply didn't work as good as my hero. Als I had a lot more problems
with programs making a hard reset the only way out.
The only update I did was the oficial rom update, don't see the needfor a custom rom (not saying those are wrong or something, kudos to the people who cook them!)
So to be honest; I had my diamond connected to my pc far more often then my hero does. And when bluetooth is fully supported I don't see any need to connect it to
the pc.
I bought the Wife a Hero as well.
I do the experimenting and she gets to share the positives.
To be honest, I only did a couple of ROM updates and was happy with it. Once I found out that HTC are going to be shipping a 2.0 sooner or later, I just can't be bothered...
Zuber
Using my Hero out of the box and the only update I did was the official 2.73 update. It's nice having something that "Just works" after spending a difficult year with the Diamond.
To be honest.... I came from a diamond too. With that said I flash a lot at first with it, but then I found a good Rom that worked. After that I got involved in the Android diamond port. And since I was a cdma user. Let's just say I spent more time in emulators, compiling and telnet then using the phone. Now I got a hero and everything works. I spent the first week on irc tryin to get it root. Now its root and I couldn't ask for more then 2.0.
Back to the subject though. My wife I believe likes my hero. I only fiddle with apps mostly now. She knows I love my phone and I know she's jealous of my phone. But only cuz she's stuck with an LG dare on Verizon.
My Wife thinks I am addicted to mobiles????? ................ ok I think I am too.
I have been happish on the official HTC ROM until a few days ago when I finally broke and rooted and flashed a cooked ROM to solve the Bluetooth issues I had.
Now its a dream and I wont flash it again until the official HTC 2.0.
Before I had a Diamond and an X1 and yes my wife was getting very frustrated that once a week a least I would lose an entire night or day of a weekend flashing and the setting up the phone again.
iPhone sorted that out but I got bored of the lack of customisation so off I went again to Android.
At least now I only rebuild once every few months so she is happer!
Russ
In my experience, I had my last phone hooked up to the computer a lot more (HTC Touch/Vogue.) I imagine this has to do with the closed nature of Windows vs the open nature of Android. Android is a lot easier for a ROM cook to work with, I would imagine. Also, the flashing process itself is far easier on the Hero, once it's rooted. At least IMO.
More topic specific, my gf has no problem with my phone addictedness as I mostly geek around with it while I'm at work.
hardly surprising responses from everyone! only a phone-o-phile would regularily visit a discussion forum about phones...
and yes my missus is constantly referring to my phone as my mistress. it almost always shares the bed with us and is the last thing I look at before I fall asleep...
All my previous WM units took a LOT of time.
But my Hero just works - all standard (rooted though), and upgraded of course.
No need to flash anything here
Not got my Hero yet, but my gf has been complaining that im 'obsessing' over it... but it should now be at home waiting for me when i get in today YEAY!
when i first got it, i spent loads of time flashing it, but now ive found a decent rom and radio that gives good batt life and reception, im happy
the next time ill flas it will be with the 2.0 hero rom.
you just need to find a rom that youre happy with
Man i got my Hero around 1 week ago and i have not stopped playing with it since, i flashed the Modaco rom, but after a couple of days flashed back to the most recent stock rom, due to problems with the gsensor. I have rooted he phone and i now spend most of my time installing apps!
I just cant put the Hero down!
Hi people,
I am a noob as far as Android goes, but I am pretty good at PC stuff. I run a 3D CAD department and I've been the "unofficial" tech guy at every job I've had in the last 10 years.
That being said, I just got the HTC Hero from Sprint last weekend, Android 2.1, update 1. I have always wanted to play with Linux but have never really had the time. So, this is my first encounter with Android or Linux.
So ..... , as much as I'd love to root the phone, I'm afraid to brick it. Is there any way to get rid of all the bloatware without rooting my phone? Also, what are the chances of bricking the phone? I've read a couple "how to root" articles on the net and it doesn't seem like it would be that hard, but I LOVE this phone so far (other than battery life) and I honestly can't afford to go buy a new one at full price if I end up killing my phone.
Another question; I've seen a few people in other posts who have the HTC Hero and say they're running 2.2. How is this done? Is this something else that I would need to root the phone to accomplish?
Also, I just ordered an 8GB microSD card. My laptop has a card slot, so I'm figuring I can put the new card in the slot, connect my phone via USB, and copy everything on the phone to the new 8GB card, then just swapping the cards.
Am I correct thinking this should be as simple as it sounds, or is there more involved?
I appreciate you taking the time to read my post, and I look forward to reading/posting here on a regular basis.
Thanks,
Eric Mortenson
Hey, welcome to XDA!
It is VERY HARD to brick this phone, so don't worry....about the only way we've seen that is by flashing a GSM radio to it, so just don't do that and you'll be fine trying anything else.
There are a couple rooting methods here, and there won't be any problems at all as long as you follow the instructions. It's not as daunting as it may first seem. You do have to root to get rid of bloatware, it can't be done without rooting. I recommend this guide: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=694572 although there are 'one-click' and 'universal' methods out there too.
The ones running Android 2.2 are doing it through a custom ROM called Cyanogenmod. Check out the Development section to find it. It doesn't have the HTC Sense UI though, so it will look and feel different than your stock 2.1. But lots of people here are using it and loving it. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=755795
And yes, you should just be able to swap out the SD cards with no problems.
chromiumleaf
Thanks for the quick and helpful reply. It is greatly appreciated.
I think I am going to try to root my phone. Pre-installed "bloatware" on PCs is one of my biggest pet peeves. So, the biggest reason I have right now for rooting my phone is to get rid of the stuff I don't want/need/use.
I will probably leave the 2.1 on the phone because I love the phone so far and if as you say, it will look and feel different. Maybe I'll keep digging through the site and change my mind later. Thanks for the "heads up".
Please do me one favor, and I hate to sound ignorant (I did say earlier I was new at this), but what does "flashing a GSM radio to it" mean, and is it something I could do my mistake?
Sorry, tried doing a search so I wouldn't have to bother you but I'm just not sure.
Thanks again.
Eric
Eric_1966_FXE said:
...what does "flashing a GSM radio to it" mean, and is it something I could do my mistake?
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To "flash" some code means to burn it into your phone's read-only memory. A number of things can be flashed to your phone's memory, including the radio operating code, high-level operating system code, and "kernel" (system "core") code.
What the poster meant by "flashing a GSM radio" is "downloading the code that operates the phone's radio". Our Sprint Hero phones have what is called CDMA radio hardware, while European Hero phones have GSM radio hardware. The two different radios are not compatible with each other's operating code. So if you ever download ("flash") the wrong radio code (GSM code) into your CDMA phone, that will render your radio inoperative, which will effectively brick your phone.
With that in mind, just read carefully any information relating to any system code you're considering flashing to your phone, and make SURE it's for a CDMA phone, and you'll be fine.
I loved sense and was all against even trying an aosp rom( vanilla/ stock android), but once I flashed CM6 and found beautiful widgets and launcher pro plus and dialer one I haven't looked back. The speed of my phone and the overall appearance is far better than Sense UI. Rooting the 2.1 is far easier than it was when I got mine. You had to download and type in a whole bunch of crap, now its as easy as installing an app and running it.
Thanks
Thank you to all three of you for your quick (and more importantly useful) answers.
You guys are awesome.
Go for it
I have 4 Hero's here at my home on a family plan,and mine is the only one running CM6-RC1 and they are all jealous. Every one that has a Hero at work or a different Android running 2.1 that has seen mine including a few Evo users loves the way mine looks and how fast it is. I thought in the beginning I wouldn't want to loose Sense and feared I would brick my phone as well,but these guys here are great and are a very supportive Hero community and walked me through the process. It is a lot easier now with the universal 1 click method than before,so that was what I did. The nice thing is if you do everything correctly,you can revert right back to you stock phone if you ever have to take it in for service.
Taking your time and researching all of this pretty good before deciding what to do is a good thing,but I can honestly say, there is so much more you can do once you unlock your phone than just downloading apps and bloat ware...you can actually make it work and do what you want it to do.
The chiefs here at XDA are working hard to bring us stable working Roms for everyday use,and I tip my hat to all of them and I certainly am loving how my Hero is now compared to what it was when it was stock.The RC-1 build I am running is awesome and (knock wood) haven't crashed 1x with it where I needed to do anything nor have I had any shutdowns or unexpected forced closed programs that were installed correctly.
So I say... Don't be afraid and just go for it.. you can still have it similar to what it is now,or you can see what aosp is all about like many here have and try it.That's the beauty of Rooting...YOU have the choice of what is on your phone..not someone else.
Good Luck
Mac
Thanks Mac
And Thank you to all who responded.
Like I said in my intro, I am a tech geek when it comes to PCs but this is my first venture into this kind of forum.
You have all been extremely helpful and have made me feel welcome.
I only hope that I can return the favor at some point to others on XDA.
I hope you all have a wonderful holiday weekend.
Thanks again,
Eric
I used XDA Forums for quite awhile for my Samsung Epix, updating that to WinMo 6.5, etc, etc.
I wanted an Android Phone since the G1 first came out, but not having a REAL cell plan (using GoPhone forever, just switched 2 mo ago to the new T-Mobile 4G Monthly), I had to wait for prices to drop (I'm also VERY cheap).
Well, 2 weeks ago, I found a G1 on eBay for $30 (I was the ONLY bidder..Works PERFECT, one minor crack on 'chin'), and got my phone. It is a Bronze (hate the 'lighted keyboard'), ran 1.6, and had a 'bulged' battery, but would hold a charge for a whole 15-20 min, as long as I didn't make a call...lol
So, I hopped on the forums here, and read. And read, then I decided to read some more. Decisions, decisions, decisions... First, I followed the Cyangenmod 6.1 guide, and put that on there. Nice. But a little..Slow? Laggy? It worked OK, but just wasn't right. So I looked at more ROMs. I looked at ICS, Ginger, but settled on Froyo, because I needed stable, and fast, because this is my 'main' phone.
Since I run Linux almost exclusively at home, ADB, and so forth, were not an issue, and the file system on the phone made sense to me. I finally chose the Froyo by Lazlo ROM, and ezterry's kernel, and flashed them. Boy, I am one happy little Droid now. Snappy, fast (once I partitioned my sdcard correctly, and went to ext4 and actually turned on the swap...lol). I also use Google Voice/GTalk a ton at home (I said I was CHEAP), so found Talkatone, which works just right for wifi calls when I run out of the 100 minutes on my Prepaid plan.
So, within 3 days I had a Froyo, wifi-calling, Android running little phone.That battery life I could measure in seconds. So, off to Amazon, and bought one of those extended-2400 mAh batteries and back covers. What a difference! HOURS of use! Days, even!
So, for around $50 (including shipping for phone, and cost of new battery), and about 2 hours of actual "work", I have a Froyo G1, that I'm VERY happy with!
Thank you, Google, HTC, XDA-Developers, Lazlo, ezterry, and whoever made the battery.
For an 'old' phone, it sure does work great!
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marketplace alternative?
have the current froyo by lazlo on my G1, but when trying to add talkatone the marketplace (Now Google Play?) says this is not compatible with my htc dream.
Any suggestions or workarounds? thanks!
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have the current froyo by lazlo on my G1, but when trying to add talkatone the marketplace (Now Google Play?) says this is not compatible with my htc dream.
Any suggestions or workarounds? thanks!
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Same, tried looknig it up on the play store on my phone, it wasn't shown on there. lol. Groove IP doesn't have good quality for some reason.
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Talkatone is in the market, just doesn't show up since these phones are really only supposed to allow 1.6... Just went looking for the apk and suprised to find it available on Talkatone's website. Works great, came here to post, and had a message from the OP - Thanks. pretty slick old phnne for $10! I downloaded the "side loading" version from w w w.talkatone.com/android-side-apk.html (sorry not allowed links ) Must have "allow installing" checkbox checked.
UPDATE
I stuck with Froyo By Laszlo (FBL) for quite awhile, and then have been "experimenting" with different ROMS.
So far, most of the GB roms (for me, at least) seem to be either too laggy, or have random reboots, lockups, or memory is HORRIBLE. At least, having my 'giant' battery makes battery life a moot point, so I don't figure that into whether I 'like' a ROM or not.
So far, it seems a tie between FBL and ezTerry's "Official AOSP 2.2 OTA" as far as stability/speed is concerned. The first time I used the AOSP rom, it had some 'odd' behaviors, but when I retried it, it may have been a 'bad' download.
AOSP does a better job with moving all programs, data, and caches over to the SDCard, too, so the apps have more 'memory' to play in.
I'll update this thread as I learn more, and my thoughts and 'concerns' with the ROMs I try out.
Happy Modding!
Hey all,
Even though I've pretty much a big lurker here for a while, especially the last year. I've finally upgraded to the GS3 today, so my Heroc is finally, after just about 3 years, retired.
I wanted to thank everyone throughout the years that made this device so great. I won't name individuals, there are too many and I know I'll forget someone. You all are the best! Thanks for keeping this device so great for so long! Your roms and other resources have truly been a delight.
And to my Hero, you are my hero. I've never had a phone I've been so attached to. You've stuck through the rooting, roms, and other nonsense I've put you through, getting dropped, squished, and other tortures, and never dropped a call, died at the wrong time, or missed a message. Well done, true and faithful servant, well done.:crying:
Carl
Congrats on the GS3. Very nice device. I was giving it a serious look-over, but the screen feels just too big for me. Even though the Evo 4G LTE is not much smaller, it's enough that it I find it "just right." I'm planning to switch over to it soon.
However...
I wasn't very courageous with my HTC Hero. I had it rooted for over a year before finally taking the chance and loading a ROM onto it. I kept reading up on the different ones available, knowing I could always go back to stock if I didn't like it. But I felt paranoid that I might screw it up. And my first time flashing a new ROM, I almost did... fortunately it all worked out. I'm zipping along on CM7.2 now.
It took me a full weekend of searching around to find the apps and widgets that appealed to me, giving enough functionality to match or surpass what I'd had before. I missed the sleek integrated feel of HTC Sense, but... there are fine substitutes to be had if you look hard enough. I've customized my Hero now to the point where I'm regretting that I didn't do this sooner. It's a really great phone with CM7. But there's no beating around the fact that the processor is anemic compared to what is out there now. You can't play memory intensive games on it (e.g. Angry Birds), but in a way I kind of like that... one less thing to waste my time on.
One other nice thing about the Hero... is the grandfathered waiver on the 4G monthly fee. Upgrading adds on $10/mo. Of course, once you have reliable 4G in your area, it's well worth it. Anyway, I suspect the easiest way to motivate an upgrade is to put the two phones side by side. No contest on performance with the GS3 or 4G LTE.
I actually was so scared to root it, I waited like 6 months before I did. But boy o boy, once I did, I think I unrooted maybe once just to clean up a really bad ROM install. I went though the different CMs, NFX, LiquidSense, ExEnHeroC, AospMod (on his for a long time), WildHero, and tried ALOT of others and I finally landed for almost the past year on the TeamHeroC rom. I waited 6 months to root my Hero, and 3 weeks to root my Nook tablet. I rooted the GS3 pretty much three days after I got it. Gotta love XDA!
I've tweaked it to the moon using firerat's and data2ext, played with the different kernels like Decafuct and Jaybob's and UOT kitchened it. I have put it though the mill, and it still runs purrs right along. In fact, if I didn't really need a wifi hotspot right now, I would still be with it.
I don't know if it's that this being the first Android Sprint phone, and at the time there weren't very many out there, or what, but there've been and continue to be so many people working on this phone over the years. I know the HeroC is a legacy device, but there still seems to be lots of development going on. I can only hope the SG3 will be as supported.
BTW, it is a transition going from the Hero's small screen to the GS3's massive one. But it is sweet to use!
Carl
Hey Carl,
Great to hear about your experience with the Hero. I've not yet tried the TeamHeroC... sounds good. Is that the same group that created TWRP? Out of all the ROM's which one would say is:
Best for HTC Sense like GUI with reasonable performance
Best for flat out lean and mean performance without sacrificing usability
I've only just gotten a hang of the Android OS architecture and understanding the various layers, so I've not even started to think about replacing kernels. It certainly sounds like you can mix and match a number of components to achieve your own unique blend that suits you. It'll be fun to learn more about it, which will prepare me for rooting and modding my next Android phone (most likely the HTC Evo 4G LTE). Thankfully I'm all set for a phone discount so if I manage to brick my Hero, I can quickly get a replacement without significant cost.
I'm also looking forward to trying out ICS and JB, to see if people have cooked up ROMs that can actually run efficiently on the Hero without producing much lag. That's pretty much the Achilles Heel of the Hero--the processor. If there was only some way to upgrade it.
~Gary
cytherian said:
Hey Carl,
Great to hear about your experience with the Hero. I've not yet tried the TeamHeroC... sounds good. Is that the same group that created TWRP?
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cytherian said:
Out of all the ROM's which one would say is:
Best for HTC Sense like GUI with reasonable performance
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WildHeroc
cytherian said:
Best for flat out lean and mean performance without sacrificing usability
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Jaybob's teamheroc is best for everything
cytherian said:
I'm also looking forward to trying out ICS and JB, to see if people have cooked up ROMs that can actually run efficiently on the Hero without producing much lag. That's pretty much the Achilles Heel of the Hero--the processor. If there was only some way to upgrade it.
~Gary
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Shelnutt has done a really good job with jellybean. It runs rather well.
As far as flashing kernels and roms, the hero is hard to screw up. Make nandroids and flash away and you can try everything.
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Thanks for the suggestions, ajrty (or do you like to be called SeaDoo?). I had seen mention of WildHero before but I'll bump it to the top of my list of next ROMs to try.
While I've been appreciating some of what GO Launcher does, I'm astounded at how bloated it is. The frigging thing takes up 24Mb of memory, and that's just the launcher alone! The task manager, power master, and weather widgets also consume quite a bit of space. Also, when I elected for it to be the default, it effectively hid ADW Launcher from everything except one sub menu under settings. It took me a while, but for a moment I was thinking the darned thing had uninstalled ADW without asking for my permission.
Are you using TWRP or CWM for managing your backups? If you use TWRP, do you also use Goo Manager? How do you deal with preserving current data when switching ROMs (such as contacts, SMS and voicemail)? It's my understanding that nandroid and the like replace everything completely. Or, is it that once you get a ROM configured the way you like it, you do a nandroid backup for just the apps and system, leaving data out of it? I suspect that if you have the data stored on the SD card that a nandroid backup not containing user data would simply leave it alone when restored.
hey cytherian,
I agree with ajrty33. If you want a good ROM, TeamHeroC by Jaybob et al, is the best, and it's what I rocked for the past year. I tried others, but always came back to it. Wildhero is probably the most advanced Sense ROM out there, and runs really well on the Heroc.
I can't speak too much for launchers...I have always ran my Heroc with LauncherPro. I doubt it's available anymore. I know when I rooted my Nook tablet, it installed ADW as the launcher, and I have to say I like it. So far on my galaxy I'm still on with TouchWiz (for now).
I always ran with clockwork for my recovery, and it always treated me well. for a backup, I used (and still do) MyBackup Pro. Short of a nandroid backup it catches all my SMS/MMS, call log, and other stuff. If I installed a new ROM, that would give me all my data back.
It sounds like your a bit confused below about nandroid backups. A nandroid backup (that you would do from recovery) takes a snapshot of your system (ROM, data, cache, everything) and saves it to a file. If you then install a ROM, and it either messes up, or you just want to go back to the system as it stood just before you installed the new ROM, you can use your recovery to flash it back. So a nandroid backup is a necessary part of playing with ROMs....as long as you keep a good copy, you can get your phone back the way it was.
Backup programs like Titanium or MyBackup, just backup data and apps. They dont backup your system (I dont think Titanium does anyway). So if I installed a new ROM, I would use it to restore, for instance, all my SMSs.
Hope that helps,
Carl
XDA Developers is a great place for people who want to put their phone to the max a.k.a HACKING!
I'm pretty sure a lot of people have hacked their phone before; rooting, download scripts, kernels, roms etc. So the purpose of this thread made is to share your hacking experience; how you started it, how did it go, what was the first thing you hacked inside your phone, did it work,did you screw up your phone etc. You should also state why you hacked and was it worth the hack. Also, another purpose of this thread is to encourage people to not be scared of hacking and try hacking their phones. (although is really up to you!)
So I shall start mine, right now!
So, after getting good results in my exam, my parents gifted me a Samsung Galaxy S Plus I9001 last year. It was one of the best smartphones I ever had(only had one....). So, the place where I bought the phone, the salesman said the phone had 1+3 years warranty. So, at that point I said to myself; I'm not going to modify,hack or install unnecessary stuff in my phone (to preserve my warranty).
Boy, was I WRONG! After I had 6 months with the phone, had a lot of apps installed and my phone began to slow down. I deleted apps by apps and still my phone was super slow. I realised, 4 years is too damn long to preserve. So, the first hack I did was rooting my phone. The reason I did that because there's this app called Screencast required me to root the phone in order to use my phone.
Of course, I was scared to hack my phone. So, I did a thorough research and go on with rooting. With enough balls and courage, I tried it. After following all the correct procedure. So, all goes down to my phone. Will it reboot or not? That's the question. So, I waited. And wait. And wait. THEN SUDDENLY, BAM! PHONE WORKS! I was so happy, there are a lot of apps that required root.
A few months later, I was a bit daring and tried to install a ROM this time (cause my friend using ICS on his S2, felt totally jealous . Also GB sucks, no offense). Opened Galaxy S Plus I9001 Android Dev page. BAM! Roms, and roms and a hell load of roms! I tried the most safest ICS ROM, Acro86's ICS CM9 ROM. Again, was scared to tried, but then again my warranty is a done deal. So I went for it. BOY IT WAS FREAKING WORTH IT. Didn't really know my phone could run ICS/JB. Phone really smooth, lots of apps I used before now is smooth. It was really worth the shot.
Long story short, You SHOULD try hacking, because you can get all the awesome stuff in your phone. I say you should try hacking because it is a load of fun!
Now, I'm currently using hypnos17's BioHazard V5 with TWRP recovery. Really nice and smooth.
So, now. What is your first hacking experience? Please share it to everyone! This thread may help a lot of people people out there! :victory: :fingers-crossed:
Acro86 CM9 ROM: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1650615
Hypnos17 Biohazard ROM: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1917906
TWRP Recovery: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1694617
Credits to the guys who made these roms! :highfive:
Nice story! Mine-
When I first got the SGS it was already a bit old, the SIII was already on the market. I heard about people upgrading their Android to something better than what the cellular company gives you, and I knew I wanted to do it. I knew nothing about it, so I went to my brother in law who also has an SGS.
He rooted my phone and installed the latest nightly version of CM9 at the time. After a while my friend also learned how to do it, so I tried CM10, CM9 again (a stable version), switched to Slim Bean, etc. One time my phone didn't boot after a flash and I thought it died, but in the end I managed to get back into CWM.
I don't think I'm going to try anymore roms (just update my Slim), because it's way too much work every time and I don't have the energy for that... So unless I find what I'm looking for in a rom (a good and fast rom, that looks like Samsung's, and one that syncs the Facebook friends with the contacts without having to use a third-party app)., I'm not going to change it again.