Due to the fact that I can't directly reply to the thread that was created because I don't have enough posts, I'm posting here looking for an answer.
I followed the advice in this post. The only difference is that I used Super Manager instead of Root Explorer to delete the files from /system/app/.
Here is the odd part, after finishing I rebooted and when I powered back up and checked my available memory, it didn't change at all. Naturally I went back in with Super Manager and checked for the files and they are not there. I also looked with Astro File Manager and the files were not in /system/app/. I don't understand that if I deleted the files, why didn't my available memory increase? That is the whole reason I removed.
Thanks,
Why do you need more space in system folder?...
Go in data folder and check dalvick and data folders for leftovers.
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Removing the so-called "bloatware" won't free up app storage space.
The tablet uses different partitions to store different things. System applications are stored on a different partition than user-installed apps. They each have their own space, indepentantly of each other.
When I started this exercise in removing the "bloatware" from my S7, I had a little over 85 MB free from the 175 MB available. After removing the "bloatware" I didn't see a change. Over the weekend, I removed the battery from my S7 to check the version number. After starting the S7 again, I check the memory and I now have 101 MB free. The only change was to remove the "bloatware". After installing two more apps on the tablet and moving the .apk file to my Link2SD partition on the internal SD card, I now have 98.97 MB of available space.
For the other post about removing the cache, I just ran cachemate and now I have 105 MB of available space.
Removing the "bloatware" does have an effect on the available memory.
While I did restart my S7 after removing the "bloatware", I didn't remove the battery. I don't know what I had the difference, but by completely removing the battery I saw that I had more space available after removing the "bloatware".
Couldn't have been. All of the apps you deleted reside in /system/app. That's on a completely separate partition from /data.
/data is where apps you install from Market go. It's also the space listed under "Internal Tablet Storage".
/system is where the system core files (and any pre-bundled apps) reside. There is no way to see the space free/used without going into a root terminal and running "df -h"
There is no way deleting system applications freed any sort of space on your /data partition.
It would be like if you had two hard drives in your computer, labled C:\ and D:\. Why would deleting files from C:\ free space on D:\? It's the same concept.
Ok. I understand what you are saying. However, I'm just reporting what I see when I look under:
Internal Tablet Storage
Total Space = 175 MB
Available Space = 100 MB
After removing the .apk "bloatware" files from /system/apps the available space increased.
tedkitch said:
Ok. I understand what you are saying. However, I'm just reporting what I see when I look under:
Internal Tablet Storage
Total Space = 175 MB
Available Space = 100 MB
After removing the .apk "bloatware" files from /system/apps the available space increased.
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he's just being hostile and doesn't understand...
the bloatware resides in /system... now some of those files are Maps.apk which is an outdated version, and when you update it to the newest version from the market it installs to /data...
now...
it says it is updated, but we still have the outdated version which is still in /system taking up INTERNAL space. removing that apk from within /system and rebooting will add that much more space to your internal and the maps will still be installed because they are updated and installed to /data.
if you want to be so high and mighty, think before you talk.
also... data is installed internally, hence why we have the a2sd or links2sd method.
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it says it is updated, but we still have the outdated version which is still in /system taking up INTERNAL space. removing that apk from within /system and rebooting will add that much more space to your internal and the maps will still be installed because they are updated and installed to /data.
if you want to be so high and mighty, think before you talk.
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I think you need to think before you talk.
Space on /system is not (normally) accessible to the user to use for storage of any kind. It's reserved solely for the OS' system files to be stored.
I think this is where you all are getting confused. Yes, the entire storage (including the internal storage) is all on the same flash ROM chip. But, it's not all contiguous space. It's broken up into partitions, and changes you make to a single partition does not affect any of the other partitions.
I'm not TRYING to be hostile, and I understand more than you think I do. I understand the underlying Android OS' mounts, whereas it seems you do not.
If you had said "removing these apps keeps them from running and using up CPU cycles and ram" I wouldn't have an issue with it. But, saying they free up space for the user to install apps to is just plain wrong.
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Heya guys,
yesterday, I found that I was in dire need of some more free space on my GT-I9505's internal storage and found that only the contents of /sdcard/DCIM/.thumbnails were taking up space. After a while of trying to get rid of those files that kept creating themselves again, I followed some advice I read on an Android forum: I deleted the contents of the .thumbnail folder, went to Settings -> Apps and cleared the data of the Gallery and Media Storage apps, respectively, before rebooting the phone.
The contents did disappear for good, but neither Total Commander nor the list of installed apps in the settings nor the Storage summary in the settings showed any different amount of free space than before. To make matters worse, the number didn't even change after I found and deleted about 1 GB of files left by an already uninstalled app, i.e. it seems to be stuck on that value. At the same time, SD Maid tells me that I should have a good 5 GB of free space more than the system is showing. Neither restarting nor wiping the cache and dalvik cache helped.
My rooted GT-I9505 is running this unofficial port of AOKP 4.3, Milestone 1, and version 6.15.6 of PhilZ/CWM Advanced. I'm not sure whether there's more information I might need to provide, other than that the size of the thumbnails files apparently exploded (about 4 GB) when I moved quite a lot of data and obb folders to my external storage using FolderMount.
I didn't find any information about this kind of problem anywhere and am afraid I messed up so badly that I might need to reflash...or worse. Do you have an idea how I can try to fix it?
Aironfaar said:
Heya guys,
yesterday, I found that I was in dire need of some more free space on my GT-I9505's internal storage and found that only the contents of /sdcard/DCIM/.thumbnails were taking up space. After a while of trying to get rid of those files that kept creating themselves again, I followed some advice I read on an Android forum: I deleted the contents of the .thumbnail folder, went to Settings -> Apps and cleared the data of the Gallery and Media Storage apps, respectively, before rebooting the phone.
The contents did disappear for good, but neither Total Commander nor the list of installed apps in the settings nor the Storage summary in the settings showed any different amount of free space than before. To make matters worse, the number didn't even change after I found and deleted about 1 GB of files left by an already uninstalled app, i.e. it seems to be stuck on that value. At the same time, SD Maid tells me that I should have a good 5 GB of free space more than the system is showing. Neither restarting nor wiping the cache and dalvik cache helped.
My rooted GT-I9505 is running this unofficial port of AOKP 4.3, Milestone 1, and version 6.15.6 of PhilZ/CWM Advanced. I'm not sure whether there's more information I might need to provide, other than that the size of the thumbnails files apparently exploded (about 4 GB) when I moved quite a lot of data and obb folders to my external storage using FolderMount.
I didn't find any information about this kind of problem anywhere and am afraid I messed up so badly that I might need to reflash...or worse. Do you have an idea how I can try to fix it?
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This will always be in the sdcard and sdcard/DCIM
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This will always be in the sdcard and sdcard/DCIM
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Thank you for your reply. However, the .thumbnails folder is empty since I deleted its content, cleared the data of the Gallery and Media Storage apps and rebooted as I described in my original post...so apparently, it will not always be there but still take up the space if you mess something up as I did.
Since then, the amount of free space seems to be stuck at the value from before the deletion of the .thumbnails contents, even though I deleted other, considerably large amounts of files since then as well, which should have freed up some more space. That can't be healthy for any kind of storage.
Some error in the file system, perhaps? Maybe some part of the OS keeps the space allocated but forgot what it was allocated for because I cleared the Gallery and Media Storage apps' information about it along with the data? I do not know, neither do I know how to fix it, and I'm getting increasingly worried.
Aironfaar said:
Thank you for your reply. However, the .thumbnails folder is empty since I deleted its content, cleared the data of the Gallery and Media Storage apps and rebooted as I described in my original post...so apparently, it will not always be there but still take up the space if you mess something up as I did.
Since then, the amount of free space seems to be stuck at the value from before the deletion of the .thumbnails contents, even though I deleted other, considerably large amounts of files since then as well, which should have freed up some more space. That can't be healthy for any kind of storage.
Some error in the file system, perhaps? Maybe some part of the OS keeps the space allocated but forgot what it was allocated for because I cleared the Gallery and Media Storage apps' information about it along with the data? I do not know, neither do I know how to fix it, and I'm getting increasingly worried.
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no, it's from the rom, every rom will appear .thumbnail
Cache images on the gallery
All will be stored in .thumbnail
I do not know how to fix this :/
Androiders96 said:
no, it's from the rom, every rom will appear .thumbnail
Cache images on the gallery
All will be stored in .thumbnail
I do not know how to fix this :/
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So you're saying it's controlled by the rom and Media Storage and Gallery merely use system functions or the like to create and manage those thumbnail files? I see, thanks for that information.
I assume that means I'm humped. After all, I made those two apps forget that they told the rom to allocate the space, which the rom apparently still is doing...
I guess I'll try if reflashing the rom will help, but I most probably won't have the time for that for a week or two. Until then, I'd be more than happy and thankful to hear more ideas.
I have a new to me S4 and it should be the 16GB version. However when I check the storage size when connected to the computer it says that I have 5.47GB free of 9.71GB total. Is this normal? Where is the other 6GB?
And a follow up question, using file explorer it says that there three storage locations: /Device, SDcard, extSDCard. So it looks like the internal memory is split into two parts, one for the OS (/Device) and another "SDCARD" for data? Is that correct? If I don't mind losing data, can I delete files from the internal "SDCard" or are those files also necessary for the OS?
First and foremost, the "16GB" of space is actually 15GB, since advertising defines 1GB as 1 billion bytes instead of 2^30 bytes as it is actually defined by the OS.
Next, from that 15GB of space, you've got roughly 5GB or so that's reserved for the system, drivers, firmwares, etc. The remaining 9.71GB of space is where your apps and anything else saved to your internal storage go. You *can* use the "move to SD" option to move apps if you're running low on space, but I wouldn't advise it unless absolutely necessary. Unless something's changed since Gingerbread, only certain apps can be moved, and even then any widgets those apps have will NOT function if you've moved the app. (yes, I know I'm off by .3GB, but I think that's just from rounding)
Apps and most of their data are saved to the location /data, but you can't access that unless you're rooted. Some of them make use of either the internal or external storage (/sdcard and /extSDCard) as well, but it all depends. Safest bet is to keep away from the folders "Android" and "data" on /sdcard, since that's where apps will sometimes dump files they need to run. Also, if a folder name is similar to an app name, use caution since it might be part of the app.
I'm not sure on /Device to be honest, since I'm running a custom ROM and haven't really paid attention to that one. I don't think it's the OS though, since you normally aren't supposed to be able to use a file explorer to browse around the OS files.
so i had about 120mb free internal storage on my galaxy y. after installing a few apps that i was just trying out my internal storage reduced to 20mb. no problem i'll just delete them... but after deleting the apps internal storage was only 33mb. doing some investigation i saw the data/ system data was taking up about 110mb (using diskusage app). trying to figure out the problem i deleted all apps linked to sd-ext. the internal storage remained around 35mb. i've tried a variety of apps like sdmaid, systemcleanup, root cleaner, clean master etc but none helped with my problem. even after using these said cleaner apps and deleting them after internal was reduced to 15mb. i manually went through every single folder in /data checking size of files but nothing suspicious. but system data was now 122mb (seen to be growing every reboot) and the system data folder is not accessible with any root browser apps.
i was trying to figure out the problem so i made a cwm backup when phone was low in storage (15mb free, avg), so if bootloop i had a backup of phone when internal storage was full so i could continue troubleshooting. bootloop was inevitable.
the strangest thing now is after restoring the same said backup where internal storage was full and rebooting i saw internal storage was now 140mb. i got back all of my internal space but how? is it the system data shown in diskusage is filled with "ghost" like files. i read somewhere that android keep a little bit of data of every app ever installed, even after deleting.
my question is, is there a apk or script to clean system data.
i dont want to have to backup and restore every few days. cause this is what worked for me to regain my internal storage.
i hope u all understand what i'm saying. thanks in advance.
My device is a 9506. Some updates today failed because it said I am out of space on the device's internal 16gb drive. I am on 5.0.1. and not rooted. As of now, system memory is 4.20gb, used space is 4.05gb, cached data is 3.41gb, misc. files is 3.29gb and available space is 1.05gb. How do I regain space? Delete apps? Clear or remove some things (which)? Move some apps to the external SD? I am kind of at a standstill now.
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My device is a 9506. Some updates today failed because it said I am out of space on the device's internal 16gb drive. I am on 5.0.1. and not rooted. As of now, system memory is 4.20gb, used space is 4.05gb, cached data is 3.41gb, misc. files is 3.29gb and available space is 1.05gb. How do I regain space? Delete apps? Clear or remove some things (which)? Move some apps to the external SD? I am kind of at a standstill now.
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Moving photos, videos and music to the external SD is enough sometimes.
I had moved all that stuff already. In the end, I removed a couple of apps I don't use and used SD Maid Pro to clean up a bunch of app caches and it cleared almost 3 gigabytes. So all is well now. Is there a way to change to PIT file like I could on my old S2? That was a very good solution.
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I had moved all that stuff already. In the end, I removed a couple of apps I don't use and used SD Maid Pro to clean up a bunch of app caches and it cleared almost 3 gigabytes. So all is well now. Is there a way to change to PIT file like I could on my old S2? That was a very good solution.
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Every other day I get a 'low storage' notification due to the tiny 16GB internal memory in my Galaxy A5 2016.
That alone is frustrating enough, whats more, there is at least 2 GB of preinstalled crap in my Phone that I cannot remove.
Ordinarily I would root my phone and get rid of these apps. But the only reason I bought this phone is for Samsung Pay. And I don't think SPay can work on rooted phones...
I have a 64GB SD card - which sadly isn't of much use because I can't install apps directly to SD Card. That means I always need enough space for whatever apps I'm downloading in my internal memory. Is there a way to directly install all apps to SD Card?
tl;dr: How do I make living with 16gb internal memory bearable? I'm willing to do anything as long as SPay keeps working.
It's useless to remove bloatware from system since your datas and system have different paritions. In fact, you won't get more space if you remove bloatware (but your device may boots up faster).
Here some tips to get more space :
1. Delete useless files in My files
2. Uninstall useless downloaded apps
3. Uninstall or disable (updated) system apps which you never use
4. Clear your apps cache in settings > storage > internal storage > cached data
Don't root your device if you prefer Samsung pay since it requires a non-tripped KNOX 0x0
Good luck !
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Samsung and android pay rely on safetynet to work, and for safetynet to work, all you need is to be unrooted.
So you can actually root, remove bloatware and unroot.
But like the guy above said, freeing up system space will not give u extra room on your internal storage, it's a fixed size partition, so the only space u get is from the dalvik files that can be removed along with the bloated apps.
What you can also do is rename the rest of the dalvik files to *.odex and move them to the corresponding oat/arm folders inside system/app and priv-app for some more space.
As a last resort, you can find a fix somewhere on these forums that enables adoptable storage on our devices, which is prolly the best way to increase internal storage (but comes at he expense of being able to swap out the sd card)