I did a comparison today between my two phones both running Android Gingerbread (GingerVillain on G2 and CM7 Nightly on HD2).
As I suspected the G2 needs/takes more power than the HD2. Strange!
Can someone explain why the G2 takes much more power than my HD2?
This is how I set things up:
Both on Gingerbread (as mentioned above), with Conservative govenor set to exactly the same.
HTC Vision G2 set to 245-806 MHz in SetCPU and HTC HD2 set to 245-960 MHz in SetCPU.
I have exact the same apps installed on both phones.
I have used the same version of Battery Monitor Widget on both phones for measuring the power.
Test 1:
HTC HD2 with 3G active, HTC Vision G2 without SIM-card, both with WLAN active, Bluetooth inactive, Sync off, Screen off.
Measured values (mA)
Time: / G2: / HD2:
14:52 / -35 / -8
14:53 / -35 / -8
14:54 / -38 / -38
14:55 / -38 / -20
14:56 / -35 / -72
14:57 / -35 / -13
14:58 / -38 / -67
Average: -36,3 / -32,3
Diff: 11%
Test 2:
Both phones in Airplane mode, Screen off.
Measured values (mA)
Time: / G2: / HD2:
15:21 / -43 / -6
15:22 / -42 / -8
15:23 / -42 / -8
15:24 / -42 / -9
15:25 / -42 / -9
15:26 / -42 / -64
15:27 / -42 / -35
Average: -42,1 / -19,9
Diff: 53%
Conclusion:
Under almost exact the same preferences the G2 needs 11-53% more power than the HD2. And the G2 doesn't even have a SIM card in it, also it's clocked lower than the HD2??
Today I also tried near stock FroYo ROMS and CM 6.1 ROMS on the G2 with approximately the same power hunger.
There must be a way to make the G2 take less power?
Does your G2's take as much power as mine? I'd be very happy for examples of other ROMs/settings to make the G2 last longer on battery. It should easily outlast my HD2 I think.
ill write you a little tutorial if you like ?
i am using stock but i have changed loads of settings to make it last 30hours
thats with around 30mins of calls
20 texts
30 mins of gaming (NOVA)
30 mins of xda viewing
sent 3 emails
facebook for 10 mins
internet for 30 mins
and listening to music
if you want me to then just reply or send me a personal message
Yeah the G2 last a whole lot longer than the HD2 in battery. Its also more powerful too.
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I am not an expert, so don't know how can i post the stats posted here, but I can say that from the behavior of my G2, I have a feeling that my battery doesn't last longer than 9-10 hours in total.
I have an iPhone4 and G2, both are fully charged at the same time, I have to charge my G2 twice when iPhone is still at 25%.
I know they both are different and uses different resources but still, I can easily get a day off iPhone but G2 will require atleast a couple of charges per day.
Still... I love my G2 more than any other phones I have used in past...
Is it possible for you to post that battery use chart? That would tell us a little more about how you use it. I'm easily getting a full day on my G2 with like 40 percent remaining.
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i've been very happily surprised at the battery (stock) of my g2. I can currently easily get 30-40 hours of use out of it, on EDGE. 3G/hspa = 28-30. wifi, i dunno, i never use wifi that much. bluetooth ? that's a 30 second at a time thing.
I'm using #6 of cyanogenmod's nightly builds. screen set to automagic.
maybe your battery is junk ? it happens.
I am at 15% at 12 hours at the most, sometimes 10 hours. But I probably have 30-60 mins of voice, wifi on always, 60 mins of browsing, 30 mins email, 30 mins games, 15 mins Facebook
If I start using Maps of GPS though forget it, dead in 5 hours...but same with any phone I had including the HD2 before this.
My iPhone lasted longer but I hated it so didn't use it much!
Vandam500 said:
Yeah the G2 last a whole lot longer than the HD2 in battery. Its also more powerful too.
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No, it doesn't. I can barely get 9 hours usage out of my G2.
i to noticed that the battery doesn't last long. is it just me or does it take forever to charge?
I still love it though
has anyone tried the HTC evo trick
i have and it actually works
turn the phone on and charge for 8 hours (overnight i did)
unplug and turn phone off
with the phone turned off plug the charger in and charge it for 1 hour (clockworkmod may start up... just leave it on)
unplug and turn the phone on
leave it for 10 mins
turn it off
with the phone turned off plug the charger in and charge it for another hour
unplug the charger and turn the phone on
it might work.. mine certainly stays at 100% for ages before moving down
after reading up for the past few weeks on here and rooting then getting the proper rom/radio/kernel and setting right my G2's battery is not an issue at all for me.
I also noticed it definitely improved as it cycled it when I first got it a few times.
deffo, i agree... after about a weeks use the battery life improves dramatically
One other thing to consider is the strength of the cell signal where you. Despite all the power-saving tricks in the world, if I am at work where the 3G signal is crap (-103 dBm) and the phone is constantly flicking back and forth between 2G & 3G, then my battery life is just horrible. I struggle to make it through my 12hr shift (unless I keep it on 2G, and switch 3G on when I need it).
Whereas at home, connected to wifi all the time and my 3G signal is something like -85 dBm, I can easily get through 24hrs usually.
The one thing I've hated about Android since my G1 is having to micro-manage stupid things like 2G/3G, screen brightness, etc. I wish I could just leave my phone to sort all that stuff out itself without worrying about my battery, like I did with my old Nokia N73 (admittedly, that phone was horrible in so many other ways compared). With my G1 I resorted to carrying a spare battery around, and that is just a joke.
As for the original question "Why does the G2 use more power than the HD2" - who knows? If all else identical except the CPU/hardware then I guess that is the only explanation.
creativedevil said:
I am not an expert, so don't know how can i post the stats posted here, but I can say that from the behavior of my G2, I have a feeling that my battery doesn't last longer than 9-10 hours in total.
I have an iPhone4 and G2, both are fully charged at the same time, I have to charge my G2 twice when iPhone is still at 25%.
I know they both are different and uses different resources but still, I can easily get a day off iPhone but G2 will require atleast a couple of charges per day.
Still... I love my G2 more than any other phones I have used in past...
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Lol the iphone are built to last for a long time because their ios. While android os takes up more energy
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gone in 8 hours?
I just got it today. and it is already for sale. Android is so crappy compared to WinMO. I dont even know how to sync that thing with a PC
Sent PM's to both of ya!
would it work with t-mobile??
Nightmate. 3 hours with the GPS on and it died. Had to find my way home with blind luck.
3 hours with a gps on is not to bad. Wifi, bluetooth and GPS are all extremely power hungry and will all kill your battery if left on. This is the same with any device.
A brand new battery will not give you much life. You need to use it a while -- after several cycles, it will give you much better results.
Obviously, you work for microshaft and your job is to spread lies in order to boost sales on a product that is clearly getting spanked due to extreme inferiority. NOTHING is worse than winmo, and right now, NOTHING is better than android.
sumitescp said:
I just got it today. and it is already for sale. Android is so crappy compared to WinMO. I dont even know how to sync that thing with a PC
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I get 1.5 days with with WiFi off and 1 day with WiFi on.
about the same as the iPhone, slightly better than the WinMo phones I have owned
macsbac said:
3 hours with a gps on is not to bad. Wifi, bluetooth and GPS are all extremely power hungry and will all kill your battery if left on. This is the same with any device.
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After being fully charged, I can listen to music for four hours straight with my Nokia 5800, have the GPS on for two hours, and surf the web with 3.5G for an additional hour - and it still has 90% of the battery left Compared to the X1, which runs out of juice in a day pretty much regardless of what you do with it... I was going to buy the Magic when it gets released here in Sweden shortly, but if the battery is crap, I might wait for the Samsung I7500.
lol.
90% on the nokia battery scale, which is really about 5% in reality....
Honestly, nokia are well known for fecking with their battery indicators. Was doing something similar with the N95 and from it showing only 1 bar missing, it went down to 0 bars in under 30 minutes....
As for this magic, i've been lucky enough to have one since an early FW and HW revision, back in February. Have no problem getting over 1 day on it regularly with the way i use it, but yes, Wi-Fi on, or GPS for any length of time, and it drops quickly. These are power hungry and use the same power, if not more power than talk time, and having more than one on will drain the battery very quickly.
no better and no worse than any other smartphone available at the moment, and it definitely gets better over the first few weeks as a few cycles get into the battery...
Hi,
In my case, 2 - 3 days. Details of my HTC magic job;
- 3 or 4 calls every day but short duration , totally, 10 min
- wifi 20 min every day
- play music 10 min in the metro
Nothing else, this is a lowest job for it and in my case, i think the duration is according to this use. Anyway, i have not got any data price and my htc magic has not got too much network traffic, only by wifi.
regards,
So this afternoon I decided to charge my phone for the first time in 3 1/2 days as the battery level dropped to 9%. I last charged it fully on Thursday night, and unplugged in on Friday morning. I unfortunately don't have screenshots to prove it because I plugged it in briefly (for no more than 10 minutes) to update to FRF72, and also rebooted.
If you are wondering, here are my settings:
- Wifi on (Sleep disabled)
- 3G on (Set to WCDMA Only in the secret menu)
- GPS on
- Sync on
I'm using stock Froyo (FRF72), and have had quite a lot of stuff running:
- Facebook
- Twitter
- Meebo
- FotMob (World Cup alerts)
- A fair bit of browsing
The only thing I haven't really done which I think kills the battery is listening to music. I listened to it for about 30 minutes on the train this morning the battery dropped from 32% to 16%.
So to the people complaining about the battery life being terrible: You're Doing It Wrong!
That's impressive if true. I've been getting really great battery life lately with CM and IR's kernel as well. I can go two days on a single charge, but I plug it in every night anyway.
I find that the biggest battery waster is phone calls. Maybe switching to EDGE would help with that, but I don't feel like it's worth the effort.
Lucky bastard. I get like 1day 4hours for typical use with Cyanogenmod 5.0.8 with 3G off, wifi off unless I need it, sync off, gps off, and maybe 200 texts sent a day and a phone call or two for like 5mins. The battery life is really bad for me...and has been ever since using CM but i can't go without it, I'm just too use to it now.
thelucster said:
So this afternoon I decided to charge my phone for the first time in 3 1/2 days as the battery level dropped to 9%. I last charged it fully on Thursday night, and unplugged in on Friday morning. I unfortunately don't have screenshots to prove it because I plugged it in briefly (for no more than 10 minutes) to update to FRF72, and also rebooted.
If you are wondering, here are my settings:
- Wifi on (Sleep disabled)
- 3G on (Set to WCDMA Only in the secret menu)
- GPS on
- Sync on
I'm using stock Froyo (FRF72), and have had quite a lot of stuff running:
- Facebook
- Twitter
- Meebo
- FotMob (World Cup alerts)
- A fair bit of browsing
The only thing I haven't really done which I think kills the battery is listening to music. I listened to it for about 30 minutes on the train this morning the battery dropped from 32% to 16%.
So to the people complaining about the battery life being terrible: You're Doing It Wrong!
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That is good.
I only got 3 days but to be fair I did have to jump start my car with it, that may have upped the consumption.
i unplugged my phone 7.5 hours ago, and i am still at 95% . using stock froyo on 3g with wifi on.
i even took a screenshot but will post it later.
You're either a liar or didn't use your phone at all
I have serious doubts you can get that kind of battery life. I tried not using the phone at all with lots of services stopped and it could barely go through 2 days.
3 days is a bit too much.
3 and a 1/2 days on a single charge is great... I doubt u'd get much better battery life on any phone with the same features as the N1...
I get 6 to 8 hours on stock 2.1 - no fair!
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I call shenanigans.
Either the OP is trolling or using a non-stock battery.
dude thats great battery life! i get like 1 day lol
lorin.bute said:
You're either a liar or didn't use your phone at all
I have serious doubts you can get that kind of battery life. I tried not using the phone at all with lots of services stopped and it could barely go through 2 days.
3 days is a bit too much.
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if i don't do anything i also can get 3 days. but i play so much that i have to charge every 7 hours my tipical day is something like this:
Listening music 3 hours straight (i travel 3 hours)
Reading the news
Browsing the net
sometime a little talking
playing with the phone
and when i arive i got 60% left after 3 hours. i think it's impressing but i got better battery on my Hero. i also carry a power pack with me as emergency. i can almost charge my phone twice
My wife gets that on her Hero running 2.1 (was also getting that running 1.5).
I have a hard time getting a full day to be honest. One thing I've always wondered is what kind of reception these people get and how they store their phones.
At home and at work, my 3G reception goes from 1-2 bars while I'm connected to Wifi. I find this drains the battery.
I also carry my phone in my pocket without any case whatsoever.
commodoor said:
if i don't do anything i also can get 3 days. but i play so much that i have to charge every 7 hours my tipical day is something like this:
Listening music 3 hours straight (i travel 3 hours)
Reading the news
Browsing the net
sometime a little talking
playing with the phone
and when i arive i got 60% left after 3 hours. i think it's impressing but i got better battery on my Hero. i also carry a power pack with me as emergency. i can almost charge my phone twice
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Which power pack do you have?
lorin.bute said:
You're either a liar or didn't use your phone at all
I have serious doubts you can get that kind of battery life. I tried not using the phone at all with lots of services stopped and it could barely go through 2 days.
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Admittedly this weekend I haven't used it as much as I usually do, however even so I still get pretty good battery life. I've had quite a few occasions when I've easily had 2 days of battery life. I don't understand how people get less than a day.
Here are a few things that I have noticed definitely help:
- If using 2.1, install a custom kernel. On stock 2.1 I barely got a day and a half.
- Connect to wifi where you have it, and set the wifi sleep state to none. Although wifi uses more power than 3G, when it is idle it is a lot more efficient, and due to the increased bandwidth it can be idle longer. You also save on your data plan. You may also want to disable the feature to notify you of open wifi networks, however I don't know if this has an effect on battery life (I suspect it does).
- If you are in an area that has 3G coverage most of the time, in the secret menu set it to WCDMA Only. This will prevent it falling back to the slower and less efficient GPRS or EDGE.
- Keep an eye on what apps are using up the battery life. It is rather easy to accidentally create a service that prevents the CPU from sleeping which will quickly kill the battery. If you find one let the developer know and / or find an alternative.
- Turn off things you don't use (i.e. Bluetooth).
When I left the office this afternoon my battery was at 76%, and it has no dropped to 65%. On my 30 minute subway journey home I listened to music, however I also had no coverage. I'm not sure whether this drop is mainly due to music or having no coverage, so I'm going to investigate more. The battery usage panel says that 'Cell Standby' has used the majority of my battery since it was last unplugged, and it also recommends to enable airplane mode when in an area of no coverage. I should probably also note, that other than this I'm always in an area of strong coverage (yaye microwaves!).
I got about 3 days without using the phone AT ALL.
On a fresh brand new N1 with Cyan ROM.
3 days with moderate usage is false, I'll put money on it.
There is no way that is possible yet with a stock battery no matter what ROM you're using.
If you want to confirm your claim I'll be happy to see the screen shots.
naturefreak85 said:
Which power pack do you have?
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I'm using the Phillips Power2Go http://www.philips.co.uk/c/power-so...=85F14C383C63DDF5599FE5DA0A89CD07.app102-drp1
A followup from my music tests: Playing music for 25 minutes on low volume dropped the battery percentage from 64% to 61%, so I'm guessing that isn't the major killer I thought. I'll try switching on airplane mode before I go on the train tomorrow and see if that improves things
I would gladly trade you my 8 - 10 hours on a stock n1 with moderate use for your 3 1/2 days. That is with everything off. If I start playing a game or listening to the radio I better have a charger close by. My phone is only about 2 months old if that.
liar
I'd be happy with ONE full day of a battery. I'm positive your not getting 3. N a half. Stock kernel. Stock froyo. Basic battery nd decent usage?? Ill donate...no give yield $50 if that's so..
thelucster said:
So this afternoon I decided to charge my phone for the first time in 3 1/2 days as the battery level dropped to 9%. I last charged it fully on Thursday night, and unplugged in on Friday morning. I unfortunately don't have screenshots to prove it because I plugged it in briefly (for no more than 10 minutes) to update to FRF72, and also rebooted.
If you are wondering, here are my settings:
- Wifi on (Sleep disabled)
- 3G on (Set to WCDMA Only in the secret menu)
- GPS on
- Sync on
I'm using stock Froyo (FRF72), and have had quite a lot of stuff running:
- Facebook
- Twitter
- Meebo
- FotMob (World Cup alerts)
- A fair bit of browsing
The only thing I haven't really done which I think kills the battery is listening to music. I listened to it for about 30 minutes on the train this morning the battery dropped from 32% to 16%.
So to the people complaining about the battery life being terrible: You're Doing It Wrong!
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I have no choice but to charge every day with my use. I've found that the battery is usually empty after the screen has been on for about 3 and a half hours. Where my display accounts for about 70% of the battery drain. I always have the brightness at maximum though so I guess it's to be expected.
Rather than clogging up other threads with my battery experiences, I thought I'd summarise where I'm at, and see how other people are doing with their battery life.
So I started yesterday on a full charge, and by 2ish the phone was dead. I used it fairly heavily, but wifi was off. I don't think I made any phone calls, and didn't use gps. It was mainly messaging and using the xda app. I had changed my screen brightness to auto the night before, so thought this might have reduced the battery life.
I then left the phone off, and charged through till just before 5pm. At this stage, the phone was up to between 90-100% charge. My intention was to see if I could get through to this afternoon on this charge. Last night I made a phone call for about half an hour, and used gps for about 10 mins driving in the car. Other than that it was a bit of messaging and browsing, but not heavy use by any stretch of the imagination. I had wifi off, facebook sync every 4 hours, and screen brightness set to about 50%.
This morning I woke to less than 10% charge on the battery, so have left the phone at home charging, and I'm back to my hero...at least for the morning.
I must admit, I'm starting to get concerned, because I really don't think I'm using this phone more than my Hero, and I could easily get a day out of it (unless I was going for a long run using some kind of gps app).
What are other people's experiences? I'm surprised I'm not hearing more about this, and I'm hoping mine is just a one off!
**UPDATE**
Today, 12 hours after taking my phone off charge, I have just under 20% charge remaining. The phone is now on it's fourth cycle, and although I haven't used the phone quite as heavily as yesterday, I have still used it quite a bit and have had WiFi on the whole time. This is still not amazing battery life, but it is still much improved. It definitely illustrates that the battery may take a few charge cycles before it optimises itself.
My first full day was yesterday.
WiFi on all the time. Screen brightness set to automatic. Twitter and facebook refreshing every hour. Weather every 4 hours.
Unplugged the phone at 7am, 100% charge.
During the morning I flashed the phone twice (due to the proximity sensor issue) so it probably recieved an extra 10 mins of charge.
Following the flashing, WiFi went straight back on so I could download all the apps again, and resync sense and all the contacts. There was some playing of games, some use of Google Goggles (so camera use there) and some web browsing.
By 13:00 I was down to 90% battery - which was pretty good I thought.
Through the afternoon I didn't get to use the phone much apart from a couple of short gaming sessions.
By 17:00 I was down to 80%. I got home from work and played around on the phone until my wife got home and we went out for a meal. The pub we were in had no signal, and I didn't really play around with the phone.
By the time I got home and went to bed, the phone was probably around 65% full.
So not a heavy day of use, but not far off a standard day for me - so not too bad as far as I'm concerned. Certainly about 30% better than my Touch Pro2 was!
I think we need to define a consistent way to measure battery life for Android.
Something like ACID test for web ... Quadrant for benchmark ...
I don't know, maybe we can agreed on something how to measure it. Or build an app to simulate phone usage which user should run it continuosly and then at the end got the result: Your battery life is rated 4 hours, 10 minutes straight using this test.
Probably not the best measurement, but it should give us a "number" to compare with other devices.
I can only suggest (I am not a developer), but I believe there are a lot of talented coders here in XDA which should be able to build this kind of "standard" app battery measurement pretty easily.
Somebody is recommending 3-4 full charges cycles for battery optimization. Do you think it will really help?
Battery is really deal breaking issue for me.
very helpful thread.
as mentioned few post earlier, there really should be a battery benchmark tool.
so was your wifi and/or 3g turned on the whole day?
jiidaineko said:
very helpful thread.
as mentioned few post earlier, there really should be a battery benchmark tool.
so was your wifi and/or 3g turned on the whole day?
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My friends also lasted over a day with pretty good use, there seems to be better results with the brightness on auto...from what I have picked up on the forum...maybe a test is need to see how much difference there is between full brightness on one battery charge and auto on the other.
Yupe, the battery benchmark should not be so complicated.
Start the app with 100% Battery life
Some options in the app (for features that might NOT be in an Android phone or might not be available at the time?):
[ ] Turn on Wifi
[ ] Turn on GPS
[ ] Turn on Bluetooth
Set the app to WAKE all the time, display turned ON all the time of the test
Set Keyguard to OFF (device will not be locked)
Set Brightness to AUTO
Set all speakers to SILENT
Set vibration to OFF
Then loop until battery down to 5%, perform the below tasks in sequence:
* Play movie for 15 minutes [speaker muted]
* Browse to website??? be careful not to overload the website
* Doing arithmatic
* Doing 3D
* Play MP3 [speaker muted of course]
As soon as the battery down to 5%, app stop and display result ...
And of course restore all the settings.
The app should use generic API that is supported by Android, not some hacky wacky if you know what I meant.
Please if someone can code this, that would be very nice! Standard XDA Battery Measurement app for Android!
jiidaineko said:
very helpful thread.
as mentioned few post earlier, there really should be a battery benchmark tool.
so was your wifi and/or 3g turned on the whole day?
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gogol said:
Yupe, the battery benchmark should not be so complicated.
Start the app with 100% Battery life
Some options in the app (for features that might NOT be in an Android phone or might not be available at the time?):
[ ] Turn on Wifi
[ ] Turn on GPS
[ ] Turn on Bluetooth
Set the app to WAKE all the time, display turned ON all the time of the test
Set Keyguard to OFF (device will not be locked)
Set Brightness to AUTO
Set all speakers to SILENT
Set vibration to OFF
Then loop until battery down to 5%, perform the below tasks in sequence:
* Play movie for 15 minutes [speaker muted]
* Browse to website??? be careful not to overload the website
* Doing arithmatic
* Doing 3D
* Play MP3 [speaker muted of course]
As soon as the battery down to 5%, app stop and display result ...
And of course restore all the settings.
The app should use generic API that is supported by Android, not some hacky wacky if you know what I meant.
Please if someone can code this, that would be very nice! Standard XDA Battery Measurement app for Android!
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the app should log the result too.. since some phone is dead by time 5% due to calibration..
@Dazultra2000: I would almost trade the proximity sensor problem for the battery life you're getting!
In any case, I'm gonna leave my phone charging till half an hour after the green light comes on, then I'm gonna try another day of normal usage. I'm going to turn wifi back on, as I usually would, and set screen brightness to auto.
With my Hero I used to go for runs using a GPS app to log the route, I'm not going to bother trying that with this phone until I'm sure I can survive a day.
Basil3 said:
I then left the phone off, and charged through till just before 5pm. At this stage, the phone was up to between 90-100% charge. My intention was to see if I could get through to this afternoon on this charge. Last night I made a phone call for about half an hour, and used gps for about 10 mins driving in the car. Other than that it was a bit of messaging and browsing, but not heavy use by any stretch of the imagination. I had wifi off, facebook sync every 4 hours, and screen brightness set to about 50%.
This morning I woke to less than 10% charge on the battery, so have left the phone at home charging, and I'm back to my hero...at least for the morning.
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I don't know when you wake up but that could be like 14 - 15 hours that you mentioned which possibly isn't all that bad (plus the extra 10% you had remaining). Personally I want to see what it's like when you unplug it at 8am, not at 5pm the night before since I can't see any good reason not to leave the phone charging over night anyway.
If you then manage to get about 10 to 12 hours or so then there probably isn't much issue. Granted you weren't using it while asleep so the battery shouldn't drain overly quick but I wouldn't want to use your test as an example of a days use.
Thanks for the info but. If I was you I'd just have a car charger too if you like to use GPS...I can't see any reason not to.
Smigit said:
I don't know when you wake up but that could be like 14 - 15 hours that you mentioned which possibly isn't all that bad (plus the extra 10% you had remaining). Personally I want to see what it's like when you unplug it at 8am, not at 5pm the night before since I can't see any good reason not to leave the phone charging over night anyway.
If you then manage to get about 10 to 12 hours or so then there probably isn't much issue. Granted you weren't using it while asleep so the battery shouldn't drain overly quick but I wouldn't want to use your test as an example of a days use.
Thanks for the info but. If I was you I'd just have a car charger too if you like to use GPS...I can't see any reason not to.
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Yeah, I would normally charge overnight, but since I had given a charge through to 5pm I wanted to see how it lasted....see if I could get through 24 hours. I wake up at 5am, so that was around 12 hours, with only 5-6 of those hours being time when I would've actually been using the phone. This is also bearing in mind that I had started yesterday on a full charge and the phone was dead by 2pm.
The GPS thing in the car was only to do a quick test, literally 10 mins. I need to buy a new car charger with micro USB, but I just made a note that I had done this because I knew it would affect the battery.
Anyway, we'll see what today brings.
Basil3 said:
Anyway, we'll see what today brings.
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Looking forward to it.
And yeah, for me personally a "days" charge really only needs to equate to about 12 - 14 hours. Thats probably the longest I'll go without having a charge anyway unless I'm camping or something in which case I'll likely fall back to a Nokia anyway.
Hi, just to add my experience with a complete different phone e.g. iPhone 3GS (developing apps on it, now switching to Android ):
Charge at night till 8 a.m. so 100% then usually in a day:
- Go to office, read/write emails, surf a bit on forums, blogs and so on
- Make call up to 30-60 minutes per day
- Play some games, test our application/games on it (so connect and receive some extra charge)
- Use WiFi at office
- Use Google Maps up to 15 minutes per day
- Back at home at 8 p.m.
- Use again emails and surf on web for 30 minutes
Around 11-12 p.m. it has less than 25% of battery, so 14-15 hours of usage drain battery up to finish it, not to mention that I'm forced to switch off push notification because they drain my battery in 5 hours!!!!
So just to say that, no one is perfect, and this devices today really do a lot of stuff, I think as Smigit suggest 12-14 hours are acceptable.
Have also tested/used iPhone 4, I don't seen any big improvements on that side.
Just my two cents...
praying for decent battery, please please please!
My HTC legend is pretty poor really, but I can live with it. If DHD is worse I don't think I can pull the trigger.
There is a thread in th Legend section about 1800mh HTC batteries (from another phone) that fit the Legend. Maybe there will be an option to do something similar with DHD.
I would pay £50 more for a 1500mh battery - why did they put the smallest battery in the largest screen?
GeoMil said:
why did they put the smallest battery in the largest screen?
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LOL, that's why everyone wonders
GeoMil said:
praying for decent battery, please please please!
My HTC legend is pretty poor really, but I can live with it. If DHD is worse I don't think I can pull the trigger.
There is a thread in th Legend section about 1800mh HTC batteries (from another phone) that fit the Legend. Maybe there will be an option to do something similar with DHD.
I would pay £50 more for a 1500mh battery - why did they put the smallest battery in the largest screen?
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can anyone confirm that the 1800mAh for Droid Incredible (that fits HTC Legend) fits desire HD too???
override182 said:
can anyone confirm that the 1800mAh for Droid Incredible (that fits HTC Legend) fits desire HD too???
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maybe a photo or model no(if any) of battery can help us?
gcd said:
maybe a photo or model no(if any) of battery can help us?
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maybe no.. cuz its slided up.. ive just noticed while watching the vid.. hurm.. good luck for us waiting for a 1800mAh then
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Il1NBIJdx5M
http://www.mugen-power-batteries.co...d-battery-for-htc-legend-bb00100-1800mah.html
No the battery doesnt fit with the Desire HD, if you watch some pictures of your 1800mah battery and than go and take a closer look at the DHD's battery, you will recognize that the pins of the DHD-battery are on its side. the pins from the Incredible Battery are on the bottom.
In 2 hours 30 min heavy heavy heavy use, the battery dropped 20%.
Will do a full day test 2 morrow.
When I was looking up info for the G2 I always read about battery life in percentages and comparisons against other phones/batteries. I wanted specifics of how the battery was used. I wanted to know if it was worth upgrading the battery. I knew that the G1 has horrible battery life. It was so bad for me, I even went out and bought the seidio big battery, the one that has its own custom battery cover. That thing made it look like a brick and everyone commented how huge and heavy it was. It wasn't all bad, as they loved the keyboard =)
I looked down at my G2 just now and it had the empty battery blinking with the redslash. Because of my experiences with the G1, I was ready for the G2. I have 3 seperate charging/usb cables: at home, in my car, and my workplace. Is that paranoid? I just knew that with my G1, it sucked being without a phone in the late afternoon. Just now I realized I hadn't charged my G2 all day. I looked up the battery info since last unplugged today.
14:55:38 hh:mm:ss
I couldn't believe it. I use my phone pretty well throughout the day.
Here are the details of my phone usage with the stock battery. I've had the phone awhile now, so I dont abuse it nearly as much as I used too.
Stock ROM
Ota Update
Temproot via Visionary
Overclocked to 1017Mhz
Tasker: 1 task for gps using all apps that need it (maps, sky map, etc)(I should probably use this more)
Email/Texting about 10/hr throughout the day
Brightness on auto till 4:00pm, after that it was set to 20%
Wireless on for 4 hours
Bluetooth on all day
4 games of sudoku (about 10 mins each)
2 full levels of defensoid
4 hours listening to music/listen streaming application (on the road into and out of work, yea really long commute, 2nd shift)
2 hours of talk time
Tesla Led for about 10 mins
Maps looking up an alternate route in traffic
AndroidAlarm task running all day
Christmas shopping for about an hour in browser.
Surfing reddit for fun for about an hour
Reading through the black ops app guide again (trying to figure out the perfect load out) =)
A couple of other apps, but not more then a few mins each.
I'm in a HSPA+ zone 95% of the day.
profile for SetCPU plz?
and btw that's insane
I dont use a profile with setcpu. I just start it after root and then move the 1st slider all the way up. I used to have a problem with keeping the OC at whatever I was OCing too at the time. I used a profile back then. But then after switching out my sim card and the OTA, I don't have an issue with keeping the OC at 1017MHz. I would constantly use linpack to make sure the OC was working, only because it was faster then running a full quadrant.
I did notice my battery get substantial hotter after the OTA using val=(anything above 62), so thats why I just stayed at 1017Mhz.
I got my chichitec red batteries and love em so far right now i have my g2 since unplugged im at 1 d 1 hr 54 min and its still at 60 percent modertae web searching and phone calls throughout the day oced to 1497 mhz with set cpu profiles
Before getting this phone I did my fair share of research on it and every review said the same thing, super phone...terrible battery. Now I never owned a touch screen phone before this so I had no idea what the desire, Samsung or iphone battery life's were like and all these reviews were causing me some concern and led me to believe that my phone would be dying over 9 hours or so due to lack of power.
Now having had my desire HD a few days I just want to say wow what was all the fuss about? I get a full 24 hours use out of a full charge without taking any precautions to save the battery. When I'm at home I leave my wifi on continuously, it was on for a good 14 hours yesterday. When I go out I switch over to 3g and turn wifi off...only used this for an hour or too since I wasn't out much. And remember I only got this phone a few days ago...so the usage has been pretty heavy as I fiddle around with it, doing some web browsing, have all my accounts and widgets syncing, play a few games, making some calls. On the first day I got it yes I drained the battery in 9 hours but that was super heavy use...i.e. I didn't put it down once in those 9 house.
This phone easily makes it through 24 hours with perfectly normal use without having to worry about the power levels. Great phone and I love my first android to bits!
I'm glad to hear some positive things about the battery as Verizon has the incredible HD coming I plan to purchase when they get LTE.One thing though that you may not know is your wifi wasn't running continuos, it shuts off when your screen shuts off and comes back on when you turn it back on unless you fool with the wifi settings and tell it "never" turn off. But overall I'm glad to hear that
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Does it drop the wifi when the screen is off by default? Not so on my standard desire as far as I am aware - unless this is something new in the HD rom?
Good to hear the battery is lasting well according to the op. Little 3g use though it seems and it is this that cains my desire.
There seem to be some mixed opinions on the battery life. I use mine quite heavily and have to admit that the battery life isnt the best that i've had but i'm happy with it as it lasts me what i consider a 'normal' day, ie, take it off charge at 7.45AM and after a days use (calls, internet and syncing all day every 15 minutes, music, wifi and bluetooth left on) and it gets me home for around 7PM with a bit of charge left. That for me is a normal day, if I know i'm doing anything else i'll put it on charge in the office/car. If I need satnav i'll always use a charger anyway.
So... For me it's OK, but not good, could have done with a higher capacity battery.
No Battery Issues At All
I received my HTC Desire HD 2 days back and have no worries about the battery at all.
On first charge it lasted over 12 hours and I was using it VERY heavily. I'm currently on my second charge now and after 24 hours of medium to high usage, I have 40% remaining.
I always have my syncs set to update/refresh as often as possible, so mail is every 5 mins, weather every hour, facebook every hour, have Google and HTC Sense syncing too. I've also left my wireless setting to stay connected even when the phone is on standby and am getting this performance out of the battery.
So it just leads me to believe that anyone saying this phone's battery is poor must not have used a smartphone before.
And with regards to the WiFi settings, you have 3 options. Go to Settings, Wireless & networks, Wi-Fi Settings, press Menu then select Advanced. It's the Wi-Fi Sleep Policy you want to take a look at. Like I said, you have 3 options; After 15 min, Never when plugged in and Never. Someone said you can have it turn off whenever you go into standby, this is not entirely accurate. With the After 15 min option, it turns off WiFi if you are in standby for 15 mins. With Never when plugged in it's the 15 min rule again except when plugged in. With Never, it just constantly stays on.
By default it is set to Never. I've left it as this to test how much it eats up the battery and I have no issues.
P.S. It's always best to do a full charge/recharge when you have a new battery to get it to use the full capacity. Charge the phone fully and use it until it dies. Charge it fully again, not taking it off charge until done, then let it die. Do this a few times and you should see the capacity go up. After this you can charge however you like although after time (months), you may see the capacity seem to come down, in which case do this again a few times and you should be good to go.
The battery on my HTC Hero came down to lasting 12 hours after 9 months. Did this a few times and not it lasts about 36 hours.
Yes I have my wifi set to never switch off...it still does all its sync'ing and mail retrieving whilst in stand by mode. I even went into the battery usage last night before I charged it up again and it had been running on the battery for 24 hours and 15 minutes and I checked the wifi usage and it said it had been in use for 13-14 hours and it had only used a small amount of power (less than 12% if I remember correctly)
i agree..
Its just as good if not better then the other smartphones i had.
battery is good.
just keep the brightness at 30%
2 days since I charged my Desire HD and it's at 40%, much better.
Wifi to turn off after 15 mins in standby, brightness at 100%, mobile data is turned off unless I'm out of the house (in that case, I turn off wifi) and that's with Buzz's overclocked 1.5GHz kernel.
I think any time mobile data is turned off the battery life is going to sky rocket!
Fortunately, by using ultimate juice you can automate this - using wifi when available and mobile data at other times without having to manually switch. Better still, this leaves both off unless the screen is active. Made a hell of a difference to my Desire.
i keep mobile data off (only turn it on when i'm out of range of a usable wi-fi)
screen brightness is at 30%
I use "Set CPU" to lower the CPU to 256Mhz when the screen is off.
I get all my mail via gmail.
there's also a hidden app (can't remember how to start it but it's a *# code)
you cna use that to set what type of mobile network it looks for (I've defaulted to use GSM but use 3G when required).
This keeps the mobile form constantly looking for a 3G signal when youre in a bad signal area (or in the bottom of your bag!) But this won't affect data, only voice calls.
The constant looking for networks is one of the biggest drains on a mobiles battery after the screen/light.
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there's also a hidden app (can't remember how to start it but it's a *# code)
you cna use that to set what type of mobile network it looks for (I've defaulted to use GSM but use 3G when required).
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Please try and remember, I would like to experiment with this ... unless it's for the 3 network only?
I've had about 8 HTC phones in the past few years and I've always been very pleased. Lime many others before buying the DHD I did my research and got a little worried about battery life. I wish people would just post opinions for the sake of it (especially in the first day or two of use) because it's very misleading. After having the DHD for a while now I can honestly say that I'm really impressed with it especially with the battery life.
I previously owned the HTC Desire and at first had much worse battery than the DHD mainly because of the AMOLED screen and it needed some tweaking after root. At the end I was getting at 3 days of battery with all the common daily abuse.
With the DHD I got 2 days right form the start and you know what it's like in the first few days. You pull it out for no reason, play with it, show it to everybody try everything and even so it lasted 2 days. Now that I'm back to just the normal use/abuse I get 3 days with no root, no custom rom or other tweaks.
SO anyone doubting the DHD battery life, FEAR NOT it's a great device!!!
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I agree great device but could you please put your battery up on ebay for auction as I think you've got an amazing battery and could make Fair few hundred pound from it or even send to htc so they can use as prototype and make all of us replacements that lasts days like yours.
I personally think the battery sucks but with the hardware you carnt expect much more from the battery thy choose for this device.
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My battery is about a week old. It wont make it through a working day (8 hours) if i use the phone for anything. It wont even last a morning (2 hours) if I'm making calls and browsing net more intensively.
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So it just leads me to believe that anyone saying this phone's battery is poor must not have used a smartphone before.
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Not true. I've had several smart phones, and I can't last a full day doing the same things that I did with my Hero. I don't have anything syncing regularly either. Weather every 3 hours is about it.
wmfreak said:
I previously owned the HTC Desire and at first had much worse battery than the DHD mainly because of the AMOLED screen and it needed some tweaking after root. At the end I was getting at 3 days of battery with all the common daily abuse.
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3 days of use? By my reckoning the main dictator of battery life is screen on time. I find that I get 3 to 4 hours of screen on usage time out of a charge. This would equate to an hour a day to last for 3 days. Unfortunately I use my phone a lot more than that.
I'm not doubting other people's opinions, but I'm seriously starting to think that I got a dud battery or something.
Try *#*#4636#*#*
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Please try and remember, I would like to experiment with this ... unless it's for the 3 network only?
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Try *#*#4636#*#*
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Yup that's it!
*NOTE*
i'm not sure what this setting may do to your phone on your network, but take note of all settings before you have a play around...
"call" that number to get the "Testing" screen up.
go to "Phone Information"
Scroll down and change "WCDMA preferred" to "GSM auto (PRL)"
See this post for more info:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=688492
Thanks both Blinkydamo and s0litaire.
Some interesting stuff there, not sure how it will help me if at all but I guess I will have to experiment...
I have HTC's since it came from QTEK.. I had 5 HTC before Desire HD.
Before this I had a HD2 (leo), and matching the most options possible between them, this is the faster draining phone that I had after HTC diamond.
Actually I've always thought that the HD2 due to the screen size had a very good battery.
I've been using desire HD a LOT since it's the first android that I had put my hands on my own, so I can be due to that, but most of the time I getting like 5hours or less from it which is getting me frustrated for the first time. Also there is a problem with this model, they probably won't be able to do a oficial expanded battery with this type of battery slot, due to the configuration.
However, I'll try to avoid touch it too much than the "normal" and see how it goes.. But I'm pretty sure that it's way faster draining than my older HD2.
BTW, I'm using "GSM auto (PRL)"