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Your Athena is obsolete already :(

Well, I have all the stupid little things that are wrong with the Athena. They keyboard is often commented on, I have no idea why the Athena wasnt better...
Well, here it is, the Shangri-La (9500)
http://www.akihabaranews.com/en/news_pics/14201/HTC_2.jpg
Read it and weep.
Mind you, no way im fitting a 7" lcd in my pocket! the Athena is bad enough.

is that 7" in your pocket or are you pleased to see me?

Pyrofer said:
Well, I have all the stupid little things that are wrong with the Athena. They keyboard is often commented on, I have no idea why the Athena wasnt better...
Well, here it is, the Shangri-La (9500)
http://www.akihabaranews.com/en/news_pics/14201/HTC_2.jpg
Read it and weep.
Mind you, no way im fitting a 7" lcd in my pocket! the Athena is bad enough.
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Too big, man. The Athena is significantly smaller.

it is not a PDA-Phone
it is an UMPC

7" Is just way to big
No weeping here they can keep it.

That is the HTC Shift. it has been well known for quite a while there are even much better pictures than that available. Areas of contention:
-Resolution was reported to be better specked than on your link
-Unconfirmed if it will run WM6, seems unlikely HTC would license 2 O/S for one device, ie costs to them and than users.

Looks very interesting. However, I don't find it appealing to me the same as way Athena. Portability factor is not as attractive as Athena. I prefer no keyboard (I like a tablet) and size no bigger than Athena. I like the storage capacity though. I don't know if running Vista on it would be sluggish and taxing on the battery, so let's wait and see. I wonder how easy it is for the phone to respond to incoming calls under Vista.

yea dude...thats the htc shift...that piece of crap is tooo darn big for a pocket...

Is this not like the cPC thing that flopped on a major level? With a dual boot between standard Windows and Mobile Windows?
Although, the fingerprint thing would be interesting for me with some of the software I'm using, but not for a major price increase........

Pyrofer said:
Well, I have all the stupid little things that are wrong with the Athena. They keyboard is often commented on, I have no idea why the Athena wasnt better...
Well, here it is, the Shangri-La (9500)
http://www.akihabaranews.com/en/news_pics/14201/HTC_2.jpg
Read it and weep.
Mind you, no way im fitting a 7" lcd in my pocket! the Athena is bad enough.
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Who says I can't have both? I have two pockets. Just have to make one pocket bigger than the other. ;-)
I'm trying to decide if I want to order one or not. My deciding factor was the built in GPS. Since I see that the Shift may have built in GPS, it's becoming more attractive to me. Just soooo damn big. 7" screen. I have a PVR that has a 7" screen with a 100gig HD and it won't fit into my pocket. Just too big. I leave it in my back pack. I don't want to carry my back pack just because my new phone is too big. Still deciding.

Carrying the Athena? (let alone anything bigger)
With respect to size, even the Athena is plenty big. I still haven't found a solution I like for carrying it with me. If I'm wearing pants with large pockets, that sort of works except for looking kinda freakish. And it really won't fit in some pockets.
I have also tried a camera bag that clips onto my belt. That lasted about 30 minutes. Just too dang bulky. So much of the time I carry it around like a little purse, which irritates me because I'm always afraid I'll forget it. (How do women do this??)
None of the commercial cases I've looked at have seemed like they will do what I want. The best solution I saw was a metal frame that hooks on to the stock case with a belt clip that this guy posted pictures of, but he hasn't responded to my inquiries about making me one!
-> http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=1311287&highlight=lasers#post1311287
So... what are the rest of you doing? Any great ideas?

wgary said:
With respect to size, even the Athena is plenty big. I still haven't found a solution I like for carrying it with me. If I'm wearing pants with large pockets, that sort of works except for looking kinda freakish. And it really won't fit in some pockets.
I have also tried a camera bag that clips onto my belt. That lasted about 30 minutes. Just too dang bulky. So much of the time I carry it around like a little purse, which irritates me because I'm always afraid I'll forget it. (How do women do this??)
None of the commercial cases I've looked at have seemed like they will do what I want. The best solution I saw was a metal frame that hooks on to the stock case with a belt clip that this guy posted pictures of, but he hasn't responded to my inquiries about making me one!
-> http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=1311287&highlight=lasers#post1311287
So... what are the rest of you doing? Any great ideas?
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My sentiments exactly! I need to carry it so I can have both hands free, ALWAYS. That means a belt case. My latest addition (3rd attempt) was a nintendo DS lite case. Guess what, it doesn't fit! Maybe we could persuade that guy with the metal clip to have a go for us, and give us a quote?

Abram said:
My sentiments exactly! I need to carry it so I can have both hands free, ALWAYS. That means a belt case. My latest addition (3rd attempt) was a nintendo DS lite case. Guess what, it doesn't fit! Maybe we could persuade that guy with the metal clip to have a go for us, and give us a quote?
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He hasn't responded to PMs and his email is hidden. Hopefully he'll check back some day and notice we're looking for him! For me, this might be the best approach. I really like the stock case (know I'm a minority there), but it does work for me. For example, sits flat for tabletop typing, EZ in/out of case to use it in tablet mode, keyboard pops right into place while still in the case, etc... EXCEPT for the missing belt clip.!!

I have absolutely no issue in carrying the unit around. This is what I have. I can either bring the keyboard with me or leave it behind.
http://forum.mypdacafe.com/viewtopic.php?t=14690&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=360
The device is well protected. Not a single scratch until now. The unit still look brand new.

google car dock question

does any know if the car dock sold on the google site fit mounting the nexus one using a gel skin? im sure everyone knows this gel skin. the very flexible rubbery one. if you have the car dock from the google site and use one of these gels please let me know how it fits in the holder! i dont want to find the gel is too thick and wont fit and have to remove it each time or dont want it to pinch the rubber over time making a hole on the gel.
many thanks to those who reply!!!

ahh please ignore this thread as i googled many images of general cheap car docks but finally found the official one with a very nice image of the inner holder. there is little pins to connect to the bottom of the phone so im guessing the phone must be without a case or skin.

I would assume that any casing will not work with the car dock. I haven't actually tried, but the desktop dock (which I do own) never worked, not even with nothing more than an Invisishield skin on my phone. I had to pull it off to get consistent connectivity.
So, I'm sort of basing what I think on the design of the desktop dock...it's pretty clear Google didn't even consider that people would want to protect their phones anywhere but on the screen itself.
I did get a pretty sweet car dock at Best Buy that has worked wonderfully.

ah yes thank you. i agree they should of considered this but then again its also part of the case itself for blocking the bottom. you actually also answered another question i thought about, was considering an invisable sheld but glad you posted your experince with that too. and i would of totally paid for the desktop dock but i rather have protecting on my phone. oh well.

The dock is very tight.you wont be able to use a skin.i free ball with my phone with the included case and mine is fine

disgustip8ted said:
The dock is very tight.you wont be able to use a skin.i free ball with my phone with the included case and mine is fine
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That's what she said.

[Q] A case that doesn`t fall out one end???

I'm using the standard Acer case but I like to use it in my hand, upsidedown, but due to the one end of the case being open the A500 slides out.
What I'm hoping you people can help me with is, I`m after a case that allows for it to be folded flat when open (for use being held - I don't use it on a table) and doesn't slip out (so held secure all around); and preferably doesn't cover the bezel around the screen.
I know I'm asking a lot here, and I've looked at loads of cases, but the pictures don't show the detail needed to see if this fits the bill.
Thanks in advance.

coercri said:
I'm using the standard Acer case but I like to use it in my hand, upsidedown, but due to the one end of the case being open the A500 slides out.
What I'm hoping you people can help me with is, I`m after a case that allows for it to be folded flat when open (for use being held - I don't use it on a table) and doesn't slip out (so held secure all around); and preferably doesn't cover the bezel around the screen.
I know I'm asking a lot here, and I've looked at loads of cases, but the pictures don't show the detail needed to see if this fits the bill.
Thanks in advance.
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Im not exactly sure what u mean by holding it upside down and stuff but i think the case i use would work. The tablet doesnt slide out at all (unless you force it) and the bezel isnt covered.
Here it is: www.amazon.com/gp/product/B005AZ7B4S/ref=oh_o03_s01_i00_details

I`d had a look at that, and read good things about it, but didn`t know the specifics; thanks for the headsup.

@coercri.....Some time ago I bought the "Vipertek" case which appears identical to the one jon described only different name. I published my comments and pictures on another thread in this forum. I think the same design case has popped up on Amazon over last months all about the same price with different names. It's still working well for me and holds the tab really well no matter which orientation you use. I have copied my original post including photos and attach it for your information.
The link posted by azoller1 in reply to my original post is the correct link to Amaz. Ordered it on 11/12/11 and it arrived by USPS on 11/16/11. It looks, it feels and it smells like leather on the outside whilst the inner lining is micro-fill. It has 6 "clips", (looking at it in landscape view) 2 are at the top L & R corners, 2 are at the bottom L & R corners and the final 2 are on the L & R sides about one third of the way down from the top. When it is closed up the A500 engages in all 6 clips. When it is fully closed every "input" (power,hdmi,usb full, usb "B", on/off button, volume up/down, rotation lock and even the sd card cover) are all accessible. To operate the A500 you have to "unhook" the bottom 2 clips and slide the bottom edge of the A500 into one of the "ridges" where it rests at the required angle. Although I am not an acomplished photographer I hope the attached photos will show that.
Having used it for a couple of days I am growing to like it especially at the price I paid.......THERE LIES THE RUB!......... When I bought it on 11/12/11 it was quoted on Amaz's site as $9.93 plus $4.99 shipping and even without seeing it I thought I couldn't go wrong at that price. On Tuesday 11/15/11 I went to Amaz's to check on delivery date and ........SHOCK HORROR........ found that the price was now shown as $19.98 plus shipping. Long story short I checked my bank account and found that the original price quoted me of $9.93 plus shipping was what had been charged to my debit card. There was no notice on the web site when I bought it that it was a special offer or some such so I can only conclude that for a short time a mistake had been made by the selling company.
At the price I paid I would heartily recommend this case BUT I am not certain I would at twice the price. But if you like the look of it, look around and see if you can find a reduced price.
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Many thanks for the information.

Also many thanks from me as well, had the Acer brand case and got soooo annoyed by it slipping out, and not this one looks promising.

[Q] Looking for Nexus 4 virtual Template model

Currently i am planning on getting the Nexus4,
And also i have plans to design my own protective case for it and have it be printed in 3D.
Though to design a case that doesnt only look good but also fits tightly on to the body of the phone i'm gonna need to have a reference model.
With a reference model i can create a case that fits snug around the phone and doesnt have it slide around, but also doesnt scrape/damage the phone.
Does anyone know how i could obtain a accurate virtual representation of the phone?
Here are some examples of 3d printed cases made for the (much easier to reverse engineer) iphone4:
http://images1.sw-cdn.net/model/picture/674x501_708555_599851_1349823649.jpg
http://images1.sw-cdn.net/model/picture/674x501_729922_621124_1351092787.jpg
http://images1.sw-cdn.net/model/picture/674x501_383278_146878_1338413388.jpg
And heres a link from a shapeways page:
http://www.shapeways.com/model/3619...-swirl-puzzle-style.html?li=productBox-search

I'm interested in this too so I can create a DIY carbon fiber cut-out.

carbon fiber cut-out
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I dont know why people insist on carbon fiber accessories when the material dampers wireless (wifi, BT, antenna) performance

Well ****. This sounds like an awesome idea. Hope you're able to get an accurate model of the device (and share). I'd like to do something like this as well. Maybe a cool case with "bolts" printed into it to make it look like it was pieced together and NEXUS cut out in the back

I haven't even been able to find an official press render of the thing over 500x500 or so in size so I can start working on a .psd for the device. Good luck finding a 3D reference lol
Tapatalk² from my Optimus V

Good luck with this! It looks cool but I doubt you will find anything this early before it's even released. Your best bet might be to just wait for it to be released and then get someone to make it for you or do it yourself.

good to see positive reactions about it, if i cannot get a reference model i might just have to "reverse engineer" the entire thing.
Though this would be quite the complex process, mostly because it's a highly reflective object.
Most 3dscanners are based on laserlight that bounces away if the object is shiney. Though i dont feel like spraypainting/powdercoating a brand new phone to make it non-reflective
Another way would be to use a tactile scanner that uses a 3 axis "stylus" to put points down in 3d space.
Though the point of such a device is always razor sharp, i dont know how it will fair against gorilla glass and the plastic on the side.
Also this method is very succeptible to having the model slide around while trying to digitise it, even if it's just fractions of mm's
ah well, ill first have to get my hands on to the phone....

MissStabby said:
good to see positive reactions about it, if i cannot get a reference model i might just have to "reverse engineer" the entire thing.
Though this would be quite the complex process, mostly because it's a highly reflective object.
Most 3dscanners are based on laserlight that bounces away if the object is shiney. Though i dont feel like spraypainting/powdercoating a brand new phone to make it non-reflective
Another way would be to use a tactile scanner that uses a 3 axis "stylus" to put points down in 3d space.
Though the point of such a device is always razor sharp, i dont know how it will fair against gorilla glass and the plastic on the side.
Also this method is very succeptible to having the model slide around while trying to digitise it, even if it's just fractions of mm's
ah well, ill first have to get my hands on to the phone....
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I'd suggest checking with a T-Mobile store and seeing if they have any plastic dummy phones or check eBay. Spray painting that would be much less harmful haha I'm definitely in this project. I'd like a cool custom case
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Any updates on this? A quick google search popped up a few models on a site called turbosquid, but the price is fairly prohibitive.
http://www.turbosquid.com/3d-models/lg-google-nexus-4-3ds/707234
http://www.turbosquid.com/3d-models/3d-hd-lg-nexus-4-model/706053

Was looking at possibly designing a case and/or dock myself. Any luck with finding a 3d model of the Nexus 4?

We could always try different sizes and see if they fit on the phone. Considering high prices of 3d prints, the best idea would be to just print some little parts and then compare with the actual phone. The cheapest dummy I found is http://www.trait-tech.com/product/T-LG-E960__dummy-phone-model-for-lg-e960-nexus-4.html so you don't have to worry that you'll scratch your phone. If anyone here owned a 3d printer, that'd be great.
Edit: found one 3d case - http://m.videobash.com/picture/view/id/95415
http://sketchup.google.com/3dwarehouse/details?mid=508b9662e69e85ff5250d066f73ee4b9
Edit 2: you might like it - http://grabcad.com/library/nexus-4-case

Did you get anywhere with the nexus 4 case?
I'm trying to get someone to design one to cover my note 2 battery in my phone lol.
The back of my phone is covered in electrical tape at the moment. Not a good look lol!

MissStabby said:
Currently i am planning on getting the Nexus4,
And also i have plans to design my own protective case for it and have it be printed in 3D.
Though to design a case that doesnt only look good but also fits tightly on to the body of the phone i'm gonna need to have a reference model.
With a reference model i can create a case that fits snug around the phone and doesnt have it slide around, but also doesnt scrape/damage the phone.
Does anyone know how i could obtain a accurate virtual representation of the phone?
Here are some examples of 3d printed cases made for the (much easier to reverse engineer) iphone4:
http://images1.sw-cdn.net/model/picture/674x501_708555_599851_1349823649.jpg
http://images1.sw-cdn.net/model/picture/674x501_729922_621124_1351092787.jpg
http://images1.sw-cdn.net/model/picture/674x501_383278_146878_1338413388.jpg
And heres a link from a shapeways page:
http://www.shapeways.com/model/3619...-swirl-puzzle-style.html?li=productBox-search
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3d models of the nexus 4
http://sketchup.google.com/3dwarehouse/search?tags=nexus+4
http://grabcad.com/library/nexus-4
http://3docean.net/item/google-nexus-4/4487363
Sent from my Nexus 4 using xda app-developers app

thaaaanks! :good:

MissStabby said:
thaaaanks! :good:
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Can you help me out? I need a case, any case lol that's a little bigger at the back to accommodate my note 2 battery!
Sent from my Nexus 4 using xda app-developers app

ill have to check, also i'm still looking into the models to see if they are actually based on cad and measurements instead of just visual reference.
For a holder/case/expansioncase the model needs to be accurate to fractions of millimeters.

[Q] Help with Nexus 4 folio

(I selected question, it directed me here. plz move if necessary)
I was wondering if someone could help me find the case I want. I am fairly certain I am not nitpicking as I see a lot of people who want specifics
I know that that there are at least 3 long list of cases, accessories, or master lists.
One here, XDA, and one I can't remember
I am looking for a flip/folio case
-Black
-Leather or faux leather
-under $20
-that opens like a book, from right to left
I just got in the Boxwave Minisuit
Quality wise it is incredible. Very nice faux leather
Very nice clip to close it
I love this clip and would like to stay with something similar. I like the look of the Poetic, but the hardback opens backward, and the other one I read numerous reviews where the magnet doesn't keep it closed. If that is incorrect, please let me know if that is the one to get.
I am not fond of some of the ones that have a snap, as that gives it a look, just to me that doesn't look like something I want. Unless the silver is not showing
I like Nillkin's cases, but I dont think that I would want that texture in a flip case
In essence the only thing I don't like about this Boxwave is the backward opening. If you think that's probably the closest I wil find to what I want, please let me know.
Thanks so much
(BTW, which carrier is getting the Experia Z? )