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ruined my girlfriend's b'day???

Hi guys,
So i bought a brand new white Rogers dream (G1) phone from this guy who said that he tried to flash the G1 with a hero rom and something went wrong and now the phone is dead. When I plug the power cable, the rogers screen comes up and it stays like that (and that disappears after a short while) - the light blinks on the phone though .
I thought I could get my friend phone to fix the phone (and he agreed and asked me to buy it) just in time for my girlfriend's b'day on Saturday but that idiot decided to take off to Montreal for the rest of week.
So, I am left with this phone - and $150 out........I have looked around the internet trying to figure out a solution but I havent been able to get a starting point...
solutions?

Well, first things first, we need to find out if you have a brick or not....
Pull the battery, wait about 15 seconds, put it back in, then hold down the camera button, while still holding down the camera button press the power button until it starts turning on... release the power button, but keep holding the camera button. If it doesn't take you to 1 of 2 different screens, one will have 3 differnet colored bands, the other will have skating android guys at the bottom, you likely have a bricked phone.
It should not take more than a minute to load one of those 2 screens, but for good measure I would give it up to 5 minutes.
The other thing you can do is hold down the home button and power button when turning it on, and it should take you to a black backgrounded screen with a green text menu, that would be a "recovery screen" or it will show you a box with an arrow pointing to a phone, that would be a "you don't have recovery screen"...
If you can get to any of these screens, we can help you from there... I would test the camera plus power button first, since using that screen to flash a working ROM will be the easiest route.

let me get this straight...
You purchased a bricked phone? why would you be so cheap in the first place and buy a used phone as a present? Did you at least try to turn it on first?
If you can get to the tricolor screen I'm sure there is something someone here can do for you.
BTW, I have some unreadable CD's that I am selling which I promise will work in your disc player!

Ssantos6981 said:
You purchased a bricked phone? why would you be so cheap in the first place and buy a used phone as a present? Did you at least try to turn it on first?
If you can get to the tricolor screen I'm sure there is something someone here can do for you.
BTW, I have some unreadable CD's that I am selling which I promise will work in your disc player!
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LMAO this is good right here.If you can get a hold of adb there might still be hope for you.

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i am tried the home/power and camera/power but nothing........still the rogers screen....
and i turned on the phone before i bought it - It was stuck at the rogers screen. The guy gave me a brand new G1 with everything sealed + a tomtom one gps for $150 so it wasnt a bad deal.
I had read somewhere that it isnt really bricked if it turns on.
Be nice - I was just trying to get my girl something more than I can usually afford.

Unless he was stupid, he would not have given you the phone unless it was truly bricked. If camera+power does nothing, then it is most likely a bricked handset. Buy your girlfriend a working handset and eBay this one as bricked.

do you have the sdk installed?? if not you are going to need a g1 to install so you can get the drivers working. now just try what a few others got lucky with. lucky is key here. once its installed and drivers are good. open sdk and cd\ to sdk\tools blah blah. now plug the device in, type the fallowing.
adb shell reboot boot-loader
if it says waiting, then maybe you have luck. so now disconnect the device with the sdk still waiting and plug it back in right away and see if it jump starts the phone into fastboot. you can also try
adb shell reboot recovery
these are for super super lucky ppl. but you never know. in my case it worked. i think if you go screen then you most likely are not bricked but thats just my opinion. when it wont boot at all you and you get the blue LED of DOOOOMMMMM then ya no luck. but eh.

heyheylife said:
i am tried the home/power and camera/power but nothing........still the rogers screen....
and i turned on the phone before i bought it - It was stuck at the rogers screen. The guy gave me a brand new G1 with everything sealed + a tomtom one gps for $150 so it wasnt a bad deal.
I had read somewhere that it isnt really bricked if it turns on.
Be nice - I was just trying to get my girl something more than I can usually afford.
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If cam/power and home/power don't work, then it is truly bricked. Your friend could not have fixed it anyway. The only thing you can try is as above: get the android sdk and try to get fastboot to find the phone as it switches on. This very rarely works though.

Also make sure your holding the camera + power button or home + power button long enough.

sold it....
well - i sold it 'as is' on kijiji for the price i bought it for- after trying for about 5-6 hrs (held the camera/power - power/home buttons long enough)
thanks guys again, for your input.
Lesson learned.

Ummm let me get this straight....
You bought a phone
that didn't work
so your buddy could fix it
so you could give it your GF.
But when your buddy left for the week
and you couldn't fix it yourself
you sold it for $150 via the internet
in less than 24 hours?
Either your the "God of Sales", or this whole thing is BS.

I need some serious help.

My Nexus one won't turn on. I tried flashing RADIO 32.24.00.22U_4.03.00.21_2 that I downloaded from Modaco.
After it failed to install showing the error message like
"Multiple Radio images"
and a few others I try to reboot it.
when trying to reboot it there showed a picture of a android and a orangish arrow and a box.
Help...I think I bricked it.

Help?
Please?

Can you get into boot loader? Hold down the track ball, then power on, and keep holding down the track ball...
Also, try holding down the "volume down" toggle button while powering on if the track ball method doesn't work...
If both don't do anything but take you to that same screen, let it sit on that screen for a bit, say 10 minutes just in case...
If still nothing, see what happens when you plug your phone into your computer with the data cable, is it recognized? If so, can you get ADB to recognize it?

Jackasaur said:
Help?
Please?
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can u get to the recovery image? if u can, its not bricked.

well I tried plugging it into the computer, I tried the wall charger, and nothing seems to work. The LED doesn't come on, and the button combination doesn't work. So I think it's dead for good. :C Before everything got screwed All I saw was a box and an arrow pointing at a android. Which I think meant it was unboxing. I then thought it froze so I tried to take the battery out, and after that it didn't turn on anymore. No LED, no recovery, no nothing. :C Quite sad.

Why the f are so many people intent on taking their batteries out while the phone is updating? I'm not saying that led to the bricking...but it probably didn't help.

Jackasaur said:
well I tried plugging it into the computer, I tried the wall charger, and nothing seems to work. The LED doesn't come on, and the button combination doesn't work. So I think it's dead for good. :C Before everything got screwed All I saw was a box and an arrow pointing at a android. Which I think meant it was unboxing. I then thought it froze so I tried to take the battery out, and after that it didn't turn on anymore. No LED, no recovery, no nothing. :C Quite sad.
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This part takes a few minutes. I am not totally sure what is happening at this point but I'm assuming it's not good to remove battery during this. Mine sat on that screen for a few min and then finished.

Try to boot up with volume down button held. Then use volume arrows to choose recovery and hit power.

uansari1 said:
Why the f are so many people intent on taking their batteries out while the phone is updating? I'm not saying that led to the bricking...but it probably didn't help.
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Everyone expects everything to be instant these days... "Uh oh! The screen isn't doing anything, it's been at least 20 seconds! I could just wait and leave it for a few minutes like all the guides say to do. Or I could take my battery out...how could that hurt, right?"
For me it took a good 3-4 minutes on the screen with the arrow and the box.
Anyways, if you can't get to the recovery then you might be buying a new N1.

ahh it took like 5 minutes for me, I have to admit I was a little worried since you dont see status bars or anything, but like said, the guides warn for this.
I cant imagine that removing the battery broke it though, he should be able to load a recovery image
I feel sad for him so bumping

Bleh. I'll just have to wait and see. I'll contact HTC.

tomsan84 said:
ahh it took like 5 minutes for me, I have to admit I was a little worried since you dont see status bars or anything, but like said, the guides warn for this.
I cant imagine that removing the battery broke it though, he should be able to load a recovery image
I feel sad for him so bumping
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If you remove the battery during the period he did, which is when the phone is actually flashing the radio ROM, yes removing the battery can and likely did break it for him. There are 2 ways to brick an Android device, while flashing a radio ROM and while flashing an SPL...
OP, have you tried any of the button combos we have recommended? Have you tried putting your battery in the phone, then without turning it on, putting it on the charger to see if it can charge the battery at least (you said it wasn't even turning on, which is likely because you have a dead battery)... charge the battery first, then try the button combo's we recommended.
And please, when you report back, and not to sound like an ass, do so clearly and systematically (I can't tell from your posts what did or didn't happen, and whether you tried anything we suggested, nor what the current state of the phone is)... so, please use this format to make it clear to us trying to help:
Battery: Charged or Wouldn't Charge (LED will come on if it is charging)
Trackball+Power: Booted into boot loader, yay! or Went to the damn box
Volume down+Power: Booted into fast boot! or Went to the damn box
And remember, you have to hold down the button, either trackball or volume down, then press the power and keep holding down the trackball or volume down until it either goes to boot loader or it goes to the box screen... you might want to even wait for a minute on the box screen(if it goes to that) while holding down the button to make sure it can't get into boot loader...

Okay so I took the battery out, put it back in, and tried charging it. The Battery LED did not come on, so I'm guessing it's not charging.
The Trackball+Power did not work.
The Volume down+Power did not work.
I think I most likely broke it, due to the fact that I took the battery out while it was flashing the radio ROM onto the phone. I kinda did it on a impulse, which is my fault. So do you think it'd be possible if I did contact HTC they'd send me a swap, and not be able to make my phone work or turn on, and everything will go on as if I "broke" it and not unlock it or anything?

Jackasaur said:
Okay so I took the battery out, put it back in, and tried charging it. The Battery LED did not come on, so I'm guessing it's not charging.
The Trackball+Power did not work.
The Volume down+Power did not work.
I think I most likely broke it, due to the fact that I took the battery out while it was flashing the radio ROM onto the phone. I kinda did it on a impulse, which is my fault. So do you think it'd be possible if I did contact HTC they'd send me a swap, and not be able to make my phone work or turn on, and everything will go on as if I "broke" it and not unlock it or anything?
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It sounds like you have a true brick... disruption of the radio ROM flashing causes lots of bricks, and did so for you.
It is pretty common, at least with T-Mobile with the G1, to call them up and tell them your phone asked you to update, and while updating it froze and won't turn on or charge anymore. Not sure if HTC will handle it the same as T-Mobile did, but if they do they will just send you a new unit, you send the old one back, and you are back up and running... they might ask that you send it to them first, but there is no way for them to test if it was rooted/unlock boot loader if it can't be powered on, so you should be fine.

Sweet. So I called HTC, and they said they'll repair it, but I asked for a swap instead, so I'll be getting one by either Wednesday, or Thursday. Good stuff! I'll tell you all how it goes. :] Now I am stuck with my Nokia N95. Thanks for all your help.

Did you tell them you have an unlocked bootloader?

uansari1 said:
Did you tell them you have an unlocked bootloader?
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he doesnt have 2 tell em

lightforce said:
he doesnt have 2 tell em
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Yeah, he doesn't have to tell them... but they don't have to cover his phone either.
If they find out it's unlocked after the fact, they can charge you to repair the phone.

How exactly will they know he unlocked the bootloader if the device cannot even properly turn on, unless htc has other methods of being able to "restore" the phone, then he should be rather ok. Am I not looking into this deeply enough? Can the phone turn on with a new battery or something? Does HTC have alternatives ways of checking?

Eclair~ said:
How exactly will they know he unlocked the bootloader if the device cannot even properly turn on, unless htc has other methods of being able to "restore" the phone, then he should be rather ok. Am I not looking into this deeply enough? Can the phone turn on with a new battery or something?
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That's my point man.. I don't know. All they have to see is that open padlock and they can deny the claim.

Power button not working (unlocked device, 2nd owner?)Update!

So the power button on my nexus one completely stopped working. I shut off the device and could not turn it back on. After popping battery in an out a few times I finally somehow, got it to turn on. Now i'm going to need to make sure it stays on all the time.
Now my question. To me this looks like a manufacturers hardware defect, so would the unlocked bootloader and me being the second owner of the device make any sort of difference here?
Any other way to turn the device on when its completely shut off?
Update #1: 7/30/10
Called HTC, then i got transferred to Nexus one department then back to HTC. Described my problem to everyone. They were nice to say they will get that taken care of. Told him i got the phone as a gift, updated my info, and I'm doing the swap option. He also said that any "physical" damage to the device might be charged, aka broken screen or w.e, regular wear and tear is fine. Mentioned nothing at all about software. I'm flashing back to stock either way. Will update as time goes

Same power button problem. Haven't checked into warranty with bootloader being unlocked, but if you plug up the usb cord, wait for the little led light to come on, take out the battery and put it back in as soon as the light goes off, then it will power the phone back on.

Ah i guess that's how i got lucky with turning it on then.
Hmm, i might give them a call tomorrow and see what they say.

Let us know what they say if you don't mind.

No worries with HTC. I was a second owner of my first N1. I traded my Iphone 3GS for it. Unlocked the bootloader first 10 minutes i had the thing. Few weeks later. I saw dust under the screen. Called up HTC. Gave them IMEI. Told them my girl got it for me for my birthday. They gave me an address.(original owners). I said nope and gave them mine. Went through the process. I had them put a hold on my credit card for $525. They sent a replacement phone next day. I packed mine up and sent it back. I had to do this twice because the replacement after 3 weeks started getting dust again and i could tell the power button wasnt really working well also.
Now im a second owner of another N1. I traded my tmobile N1 for a ATT N1. woot.

You can also root the phone and put trackball wake on it....also, when the phone is off completely, the trackball WILL boot it - tested this myself today.

MaximReapage said:
You can also root the phone and put trackball wake on it....also, when the phone is off completely, the trackball WILL boot it - tested this myself today.
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Honestly when my phone was off I tried booting by pressing trackball and holding, just pressing and nothing. How did you do it? is there a specific process? I already have trackball wake selected thankfully before this even happened.
Another question is, how in the hell would i get into recovery or any of those functions now?

Coderedpl said:
Honestly when my phone was off I tried booting by pressing trackball and holding, just pressing and nothing. How did you do it? is there a specific process? I already have trackball wake selected thankfully before this even happened.
Another question is, how in the hell would i get into recovery or any of those functions now?
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You download quick boot and user that to get into recovery or bootloader.

I ended up receiving the new nexus one, but i sold it already so yea

Hi,
I've a nexus one with a broken on-off button, so now I can't boot my phone at all.
there is a rom to boot with trackball or any hardware button ?
thx

Read the thread
thebluest said:
Hi,
I've a nexus one with a broken on-off button, so now I can't boot my phone at all.
there is a rom to boot with trackball or any hardware button ?
thx
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Read the Thread and there is a suggestion on how to turn it on

New method for Vibrant Recovery mode

Hey!
First I have to say Thank You for all the contributions you have made to the forums. My girlfriend and I both just bought Vibrants 2 weeks ago, and being the techy I am, have been reading all sorts of stuff in the forums. I actually have been visiting the XDA forums since last year when I got my MyTouch 3G. I haven't posted anything, because usually by the time I have a question, I come to the forums and find an answers then in the moments of happiness, fail to say thank you to the community.
So it's time to start contributing.
I've been reading about the numerous processes on how to get into the Recovery mode for the Vibrant, and the possibility of the Hardware Locked phones.
After exhausting all options, I decided to call Tmo and see if they could help. Well long story short I went back to the store, and they gave me a new procedure (at least one that I have not seen on the forums so far) to test out. And it works!!
I've been doing it over and over for the last hour and each time I've been able to get into recovery mode.
Here it is...
Start with the phone ON and NOT plugged into the computer OR wall for charging.
1. Power down the phone as usual. Wait until the "Goodbye" disappears and then wait a few more seconds. DO NOT TOUCH ANYTHING DURING THIS TIME.
2. Press and hold Vol+,Vol-, & Power.
3. Wait for the Vibrant logo to appear.
4. Wait for the Vibrant logo to disappear.
5. Wait for the Vibrant logo to appear again.
6. Release ONLY Vol+, & Power, and continue to hold Vol -.
RECOVERY MODE!!!
Most of the process I have seen tell you to hold down and keep holding both Vol+ and Vol-, but I could never get it to work.
Please let me know if this works for you.
And I also want to say that I"m sorry if I have posted this in the wrong spot, or this procedure is some where that I haven't read yet. But I finally found something that worked and wanted to share.
Good Luck!
Reg.

Didn't work for me. Lemme try again.
EDIT: Works! Awesome. I never heard of this way to enter recovery, but it's good. +1.
But I don't have a hardware locked Vibrant so maybe it's different for me.

I get in every time with every VIbrant i have used.
Power off phone
Power on holding power, vol up and vol down
When the Samsung logo appears let go of power and continue to hold vol up and vol down.
Works everytime for me..... *Shrugs*

acjames said:
I get in every time with every VIbrant i have used.
Power off phone
Power on holding power, vol up and vol down
When the Samsung logo appears let go of power and continue to hold vol up and vol down.
Works everytime for me..... *Shrugs*
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Granted. But this procedure does not work for all vibrants.

I think OP is saying this method would work with hardware locked phones, where the normal recovery mode method doesn't work.
I'm trying this on my hardware locked phone right now. Third time's a charm?
*Edit* Nothing, 10 times unlucky.

Tested on Hardware Locked Vibrant, doesn't work.
The Vibrant screen disappearing and coming back is nothing but the phone powering on and off, because you are holding down the power key.
I had already tried this in the T-Mo store (the CSR walked usthrough it on the phone - we tried it about 50 times, mind you), and I just tried it again about 30 seconds ago.
I wish these threads would stop.
If you get locked out of your phone, brick it, whatever, and it's hardware locked.
Just get a damn replacement.
You're not going to get into recovery or download mode on it.
Seriously.
You won't.
I've been waiting for a replacement for like 5 days now, and I've been basically living on this forum. I've tried everything there is to try. Making new threads is not going to do anything but frustrate more people, because none of these magic methods will allow them to get into recovery/download via the hardware keys on a boot-up.
Edit: Exception is if you root and can disable the lockout via adb, of course. Most consumers who find this site via Google will already have this issue, and will likely not be rooted with USB debugging enabled. The phone makes it way too easy to disabled USB debugging that even if it came enabled by default, most people who charge with a laptop will see the notification and click it ignorantly (ignorant of the benefits it can provide in the event of a catastrophe like mine).

N8ter said:
Edit: Exception is if you root and can disable the lockout via adb, of course.
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I actually saw someone in a reply mention something like this, but nothing ever came of it. They were looking for boot.bin and another file, which I can't remember at the moment.
Do you have any other info regarding a method to do this?
Reg

I think this is the latest fad for trolls. Post some crazy key combination that is supposed to work for hardware locked phones, claim it "WORKS 100%"! Bottom line, don't get your hopes up, it didn't work for me either.

nermie said:
I think this is the latest fad for trolls. Post some crazy key combination that is supposed to work for hardware locked phones, claim it "WORKS 100%"! Bottom line, don't get your hopes up, it didn't work for me either.
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I"m not trolling, just trying to help. If it only helps one person, I'll be satisfied.

rkwarner2 said:
I"m not trolling, just trying to help. If it only helps one person, I'll be satisfied.
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it will only help you look like a troll, because the hardware locked phones domt evem attempt to read those key states on boot. The only way to fix it is with a firmware update.
there is no magic method to gettimg these phones in dlm/recovery.
so stop making threads about it.
to the person above: if u have usb debugging on u can use adb to disengage the lock, but in that case why even have a lock. the main issue is the android bug not allowimg legit owners to unlock their owm phones using their own google cred en tials.
if tjat didn't exist we wouldnt have to worry about these patt er n lockout threads.
a legit owner who gets the phone replaced would never sell the locked phone, unless they wanma pay t-mo or asurion an extra $300+ USD

rkwarner2 said:
1. Power down the phone as usual. Wait until the "Goodbye" disappears and then wait a few more seconds. DO NOT TOUCH ANYTHING DURING THIS TIME.
2. Press and hold Vol+,Vol-, & Power.
3. Wait for the Vibrant logo to appear.
4. Wait for the Vibrant logo to disappear.
5. Wait for the Vibrant logo to appear again.
6. Release ONLY Vol+, & Power, and continue to hold Vol -.
RECOVERY MODE!!!
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Didn't work for me. I've tried everything.

I'm new you the Vibrant and not very techy at all, so what is the purpose of the recovery mode, other than the obvious term?
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I wish these threads would stop.
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Obviously you don't, or else you would not have clicked the clearly marked title hoping for something. I mean...really?
Making new threads is not going to do anything but frustrate more people, because none of these magic methods will allow them to get into recovery/download via the hardware keys on a boot-up.
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Well why did you click on the post, read it, then try the stated method? Did you have any hope? Or, were you looking forward to being frustrated? Really man? Really?
Bottom line: I don't think the OP promised any "magic" fix or claimed it would certainly help all Vibrant users. I took it as he/she was hopeful to be able to contribute something to the community believing it might help. I wish the posts where people are complaining about other people's posts (hardware locks, Froyo, etc.) would stop. Stop clicking.

Did work for me
Did work for me Oddity in the system I guess
Thanks for the find

Check SPL problems

Awesome guides! No doubt about that. I'm not a complete noob but I am new to the HD2 and I feel stupid bc I can't get past the first step I am frustrated cuz I have been looking all over for ways to check SPL my trio screen that everyone talks about is not coming up. Idk what to do. I've done the volume down with power button and also tried pressing the reset button in the back just to see if it works. I boot into Windows to make sure the volume down works and it does.
I have the tmobile version Leo 1024. Any suggestions.
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fcpelayo said:
Awesome guides! No doubt about that. I'm not a complete noob but I am new to the HD2 and I feel stupid bc I can't get past the first step I am frustrated cuz I have been looking all over for ways to check SPL my trio screen that everyone talks about is not coming up. Idk what to do. I've done the volume down with power button and also tried pressing the reset button in the back just to see if it works. I boot into Windows to make sure the volume down works and it does.
I have the tmobile version Leo 1024. Any suggestions.
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Pull battery, press volume down and hold, push power and hold both. Tri color screen should be there.
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Like everyone says. Volume down + end key.
Hold the volume down until the tri-color screen shows up.
I know you've said that.. just make sure you continue to hold volume down
Maybe that will help.

thank you guys but idk why it is not working but i finally managed to get it to bootloader by trying to install hspl3 it automatically sent me to the bootloader screen. After it said "we hacked it" i rebooted and tried to see if it would work with the typical hardware button
voldwn + power button and then let go and it still does not work.? :/
ps . i let go of power button but kept holding the voldwn and still did not work.

fcpelayo said:
thank you guys but idk why it is not working but i finally managed to get it to bootloader by trying to install hspl3 it automatically sent me to the bootloader screen. After it said "we hacked it" i rebooted and tried to see if it would work with the typical hardware button
voldwn + power button and then let go and it still does not work.? :/
ps . i let go of power button but kept holding the voldwn and still did not work.
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You are completely turning off your phone and then doing this to power it up right?
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Yes and so I started following your guide to install clk since I know that I at least now have hspl3 installed and in the part where you task29 I followed instructions successfully flashed. Everything is going well until you say to reboot into boot loader mode by removing battery and voldwn + power. I try it hoping it would finally work and it doesn't.
Make story short my phone is stuck at the "stick together" screen. I tried getting into boot loader mode by running the hspl install program but bc is stuck on the screen comp is not able to recognize phone. Am I bricked?
Btw I pm you Kylew
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Nice, real slick move,, you can't get into bootloader, yet you still decide to go ahead and wipe the OS, so now you have a non booting phone and no access to bootloader.
That's a handsome if totally useless lump of glass and plastic you have there!
JTAG, or sell for spares. (Well, after trying everything you can think of, but all I can think of is freezer trick, but its a loooooong shot. )

samsamuel said:
Nice, real slick move,, you can't get into bootloader, yet you still decide to go ahead and wipe the OS, so now you have a non booting phone and no access to bootloader.
That's a handsome if totally useless lump of glass and plastic you have there!
JTAG, or sell for spares. (Well, after trying everything you can think of, but all I can think of is freezer trick, but its a loooooong shot. )
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what is jtag and whats the freezer trick? is there any other way to get into bootloader mode maybe with sd?
Im willing to open the phone and remove or unplug a strip to completely erase any stored data and hope that it boots into bootloader?

SOLVED!! hope this helps someone else
i got it to work. My god there are soo many ppl with this phone soo many threads and post not sure if thats a good or bad thing lol anyways out of all the searching I found this guy to have had the same as me and he solved it. It was impossible for me to ever i mean EVER boot in to the trio color screen or bootloader what ever its called using the hardware buttons even tho the hardware buttons do work. I was able to get into bootloader when comp and phone sync and I used the hspl3 program to boot the phone when it was fully on the win mo stock.
Anyways I just followed this :
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=10644926&postcount=4
I opened up my hd2 (unscrew and removed the back panel) and disconnected the connector flex rigid board (A board) of the hardware keypad from the mainboard….and pushed the battery in and pressed reset (sometime u need to plugin the usb cable to wall charged/pc to wake up the phone) and held volume down key and hopped for some miracle.
Viola saw the tricolor screen after eternity – since the back panel (not backcover) was open I help the battery to the pins and didn’t even move my fingers …run the stock rom installation and held the battery tight in place and waited to get the rom completed…the moment its 100% relaxed my fingers and reconnected the flexboard connector, re-assembled my phone and everything was back to normal.
I also used these pages for reference on parts:
http://www.ifixit.com/pdf/ifixit/guide_5919_en.pdf
http://pocketnow.com/hardware-1/official-htc-hd2-disassembly-assembly-training-videos-leaked
ps. no need to take the whole phone apart. I believe you are disconecting the AP FPC from main board which is connected to your hardware buttons if I am correct.
Edit: I want to give credit to kylew1212 for walking me through the rest of the installation of my android.

Interesting, good job.

i have a lot of sympathy for his viewson peace