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Quadrant score for galaxy s running froyo

I got 1932
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Without any lagfix?!

You should really give more detail, which lagfix if there was one or just stock froyo from Samsung?

leoon said:
Without any lagfix?!
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No, I'm sure he's got OCLF. Without lagfix froyo isn't any quickier than eclair as of now. Actually, it's slower. I used to get 2200 points with JM9 + OCLF. Now with JP6 + OCLF i get 1850p.

aitzo said:
No, I'm sure he's got OCLF. Without lagfix froyo isn't any quickier than eclair as of now. Actually, it's slower. I used to get 2200 points with JM9 + OCLF. Now with JP6 + OCLF i get 1850p.
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Yeah that's what I thought, though I don't know why people post like he does there is no point to it, in no way does it help benifit the community.

aitzo said:
No, I'm sure he's got OCLF. Without lagfix froyo isn't any quickier than eclair as of now. Actually, it's slower. I used to get 2200 points with JM9 + OCLF. Now with JP6 + OCLF i get 1850p.
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Do you mean it's slower, or rather that it gets a lower Quadrant score? Those are two entirely different statements. I realize the OP mentions Quadrant scores specifically and I apologize for sort of imposing my opinion, but such benchmarks, especially with such little score difference and such major operating system differences, do not tell you a whole lot at all.
One separate test of Quadrant might bottleneck the entire score, even when all other parts of the system are much faster. Just look at how a simple 'lag fix' suggests the phone is twice as fast (quadrant goes from 1k to 2k) which of course, is not the case. Also look at how Cyanogen gets a 3K score with a simple hack, where the phone speed was barely altered.
So I am curious about real world performances:
Do you still get lags on Froyo?
Does the GPS take only a few seconds to get a fix?
Does it launch apps almost instantly stock or with some lag fix?
Does it feel ultra responsive, as should be the result of using a JIT compiler?
Does it render webpages faster than iPhone 4 like the Nexus One, like it should?
Does it still run actual applications, such as Quake 3, faster than any HTC despite their higher Linpack scores, and is there an increase in FPS since Eclair?
Would love to hear about this!

Do you still get lags on Froyo?
- I think it lags more than last eclair builds
Does the GPS take only a few seconds to get a fix?
- Same as JM9. Haven't played with gps in outdoors so can't be specific with fix times
Does it launch apps almost instantly stock or with some lag fix?
- Same as JM9, or slower. Lagfix makes it ok.
Does it feel ultra responsive, as should be the result of using a JIT compiler?
- No, even though others have said that JIT is on.
Does it render webpages faster than iPhone 4 like the Nexus One, like it should?
- Webpages are ultra laggy when there is flash content
Does it still run actual applications, such as Quake 3, faster than any HTC despite their higher Linpack scores, and is there an increase in FPS since Eclair?
- Don't know

nin2thevoid said:
So I am curious about real world performances:
1 Do you still get lags on Froyo?
2 Does the GPS take only a few seconds to get a fix?
3 Does it launch apps almost instantly stock or with some lag fix?
4 Does it feel ultra responsive, as should be the result of using a JIT compiler?
5 Does it render webpages faster than iPhone 4 like the Nexus One, like it should?
6 Does it still run actual applications, such as Quake 3, faster than any HTC despite their higher Linpack scores, and is there an increase in FPS since Eclair?
Would love to hear about this!
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1: yes (when no lagfix applied)
2: yes <5s on warm start, <30s on cold start
3: yes with lagfix only
4:i don't think thats the result of the compiler, just the lagfix but yes, and the JIT does make things a little faster overall
5: no the browser is a bit slow i don't know why. Even Fennec alpha is much faster.
6: yes Q3 is extremely smooth, full details + lightmap, getting 56-60fps (=FPS cap on the SGS), it never slows down
Note that Q3 is using the NDK as in native app. I don't know if Linpack tests native code.

Do you still get lags on Froyo?
Not that i've noticed but I will be installing Voodoo anways.
Does the GPS take only a few seconds to get a fix?
GPS is A LOT better.
Does it launch apps almost instantly stock or with some lag fix?
Certain Apps launch almost instantly where others take a few seconds such as PikPok Games, Fruit Ninja, etc.
Does it feel ultra responsive, as should be the result of using a JIT compiler?
Seems fast to me but only as it's a new install will wait a few days, plus I install Voodoo's fix anyway for the screen fixes too.
Does it render webpages faster than iPhone 4 like the Nexus One, like it should?
No, we have flash it's more demanding but you can set it to be on demand then its just on par with them no major difference.
Does it still run actual applications, such as Quake 3, faster than any HTC despite their higher Linpack scores, and is there an increase in FPS since Eclair?
Not sure but all games i've played are smooth without a hiccup.
hope this helps
1000 in Quadrant and 14 in Linpack

New Froyo+OCLF = 1722 Quadrant
No problems. Gps, camera,market... all is ok.

How are you guys getting such a large score? I'm getting about 1000 and it shows the Samsung Galaxy S on the graph even less (I assumed 1000ish was better than the average score). Or am I using some newer version of the app?? :/

XXJPK with OCLF
I've tested 3 times with Quadrant. Scores: 1550, 1764, 1995.
Phone works much faster after OCLF.
I takes 2 seconds to open a book in Aldiko instead 10.

My galaxy s with froyo, one click root and one click lag fix scores 2029. If i could post a url of the picture i would, but i'm not allowed

ive tried jp6 and jpm and not impressed with either. still getting some lag, even when switching home screens with a live wallpaper.

If you use oclf with quadrant you want get a real result.
What i understand it's one database test that is not real.
It don't do it right. The result is that it seems faster then it is.
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My quadrant bench mark is 2017.
I've got JPK, OCLF v2.2 and SETCPU installed.

If anybody is interested in a little comparison to the HTC Desire:
1550 on LeeDroid 2.2f (Froyo) with OC to 1153 MHz. Some got speeds upto 1700 with more overclocking, but that'll heat up the phone beyond healthy values, I guess. Do not want to put in a fan there .
So with some optimizations like lag fix and file system enhancement the Galaxy S is a really fast Smartphone indeed, let alone the 3D graphic performance. Cudos!

Post your official Froyo /Gingerbread bechmarks here (without lagfix)

post your official froyo / Gingerbread bechmarks here (without lagfix)
if you got upgrade via kies

Got jp6 trough norwegian kies
1020 is highest before lagfix
2015 is highest after oclf lagfix
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as I've noticed before, without lagfix on 2.1 the I/O check takes ages
but as compare,
2.1 without lagfix around 850
2.2 without lagfix around 1000
2.1 with lagfix around 2200
2.2 with lag fix, not tested yet, need to find a root

AsgardCurse said:
as I've noticed before, without lagfix on 2.1 the I/O check takes ages
but as compare,
2.1 without lagfix around 850
2.2 without lagfix around 1000
2.1 with lagfix around 2200
2.2 with lag fix, not tested yet, need to find a root
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here is a root for you
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=788108
OCLF only boost IO on Galaxy s : nexus 1 is still way faster in processor optimization test and this is what we need in galaxy s

dadyal said:
OCLF only boost IO on Galaxy s : nexus 1 is still way faster in processor optimization test and this is what we need in galaxy s
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Faster in real world performance or in synthetic benchmarks?

DarthV said:
Faster in real world performance or in synthetic benchmarks?
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I guess for using FPU intensive task, like Mathematical design, database, encoding video or MP3, file sharing and sugh... :|
For me, I use the phone for mostly GPU intense task, such as taking pictures/video, listening to video, gaming, browsing pictures, etc. so I asume that better gpu makes it better all around eh!
Kinda like being able to lift heavy wieght but doing a desk job I assume!
(BTW, sorry for the sarcasm )

2.2 without lagfix 1001

2.1
before: 854
after: 2273

Sorry guy for a stupid question but which app are you using for the benchmark test?
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Quadrant Standard banchmark - U can find it in market
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Thx for the app info! I got 1010
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t1mman said:
I guess for using FPU intensive task, like Mathematical design, database, encoding video or MP3, file sharing and sugh... :|
For me, I use the phone for mostly GPU intense task, such as taking pictures/video, listening to video, gaming, browsing pictures, etc. so I asume that better gpu makes it better all around eh!
Kinda like being able to lift heavy wieght but doing a desk job I assume!
(BTW, sorry for the sarcasm )
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So wouldn't benchmarks for your specific application be better than synthetic benchmarks suck as linpack and quadrant? The snapdragon CPU in the n1 is very very friendly with linpack (NEON + 128bit SIMD). I doubt that the hummingbird in our SGSs will ever score as high, but that doesn't mean that real performance is going to be worse. And well quadrant is pretty much a joke or at least how it weights cpu/gpu/io.
Maybe someone group will get a bunch of phones together and test things like gaming speed, web render times etc etc. That would be meaningful.

DarthV said:
So wouldn't benchmarks for your specific application be better than synthetic benchmarks suck as linpack and quadrant? The snapdragon CPU in the n1 is very very friendly with linpack (NEON + 128bit SIMD). I doubt that the hummingbird in our SGSs will ever score as high, but that doesn't mean that real performance is going to be worse. And well quadrant is pretty much a joke or at least how it weights cpu/gpu/io.
Maybe someone group will get a bunch of phones together and test things like gaming speed, web render times etc etc. That would be meaningful.
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you mean VFP? the Hummingbird is the one with the ARM Neon chip...
VFP is pretty much a floating point accelerator which is why benchmarks are so high on linpack which calculates floating points.

my score is 1034, was over 2000 before Froyo update

Lostja said:
my score is 1034, was over 2000 before Froyo update
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you got this update via kies ?
i flashed JPA and it go 970 - 1050

960 without
How to do the OCLF? It says "Unavailable" on everything...
Edit: got it fixed
1819 with

If everything shows unavailable check the following:
Phone is Rooted,
Ext2 tools installed,
BATTERY MUST BE MORE THAN 40%
last one is the one that most people dont check

Score was around 1008 with standard Froyo. (Kies update)
With root and lagfix i get around 1873.
With official Enclair and lagfix i could easily get 2200+ points.

970. not the best!

frankatboy said:
If everything shows unavailable check the following:
Phone is Rooted,
Ext2 tools installed,
BATTERY MUST BE MORE THAN 40%
last one is the one that most people dont check
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Battery is more than 40%.
How do I root and install Ext2? (stupid question I know but I am new lol). I see it can root and install ext2 as well, but those are unavailable too.
Edit: *fixed* 1819 with lagfix

Cm7- Vm Heap Size on Htc Wildfire- Performance optimization

Hello,
two days ago i changed the size of my Vm-heap to 32mb. I was curious after i read in some posts that this could affect the performance of resource-intensiv apps. As i am using navigon-navigation a lot i had to give it a try...
After ive changed it and rebootet the device, navigon works MUCH better then before, track calculation is much faster and the app is much more responsive and running fluent. The difference is highly noticeable. For other apps like my browser i experiecend the same.
I read that the downside of it is that it is possible that apps could be moved out of memory because some other apps now use more ram and so the jumping between apps could be more time intensive. But i have noticed no slow down at all.
(Wildfire is not a fast phone, but i think 384 mb ram is really good for that kind of phone, some other phones like galaxy ace have only 287 RAM with better cpu)
My experience is that a lot of apps running much better know, and for me its a absolute performance enhancement, I would even go so far that i would say it was the best performance-enhacement after overclocking the device. So if you are running resource-intensive apps (like navigation browsing) you should definitely give it a try.
Whats your experience with that ? Ever changed the vm heap size? Noticed differences??
Cheers.

im rocking 32 since i s-off my phone with alpharevx beta,and yes its better for intensive apps (imo) but the one thing i cant understand is way my phone i lagging when i get a call??some times the ringtone is playing and the screen is black,any tips thx

darkstep said:
im rocking 32 since i s-off my phone with alpharevx beta,and yes its better for intensive apps (imo) but the one thing i cant understand is way my phone i lagging when i get a call??some times the ringtone is playing and the screen is black,any tips thx
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im running my phone with the ondemand governor with cpu-min:528 and cpu-max:691 and i have no lag when someone is calling.

Nhs666 said:
im running my phone with the ondemand governor with cpu-min:528 and cpu-max:691 and i have no lag when someone is calling.
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It is indeed said that such lag is due to the 'extreme' underclocking of the processor.
I'm on CM7 RC1, use SMARTASS with 245 as a minimum, and haven't noticed any lag yet..
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ErwinP said:
It is indeed said that such lag is due to the 'extreme' underclocking of the processor.
I'm on CM7 RC1, use SMARTASS with 245 as a minimum, and haven't noticed any lag yet..
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I didn't want to implicate that the ringing lag is about the low freq., but i noticed that with such low freq's the phone is not so responsive when pulling suddenly the notificationbar, get it out of standby and such things. Never noticed something like that??

I was testing about it too. i settled with 32mb heap size, which i've found to be the best practice. Anything lower would make apps like navigon or opera lag, anything higher, would give me force closes on apps for some reason.
I also tried to experiment with compcache, with the following settings "disabled, 18%, 26%" and i think 26% makes my wildfire a bit snappier, although it might be just a placebo effect, because there's no difference in quadrant/linpack benchmarks.

why placebo effect....the question is how good can a benchmark represent the practial application in daily usage. Anybody?
I tried vm heap bigger than 32mb too. But while running navigon it seems to me not much as a big improvement so i switched back.
The compcage thing will be the next thing im testing.

Nhs666 said:
why placebo effect....the question is how good can a benchmark represent the practial application in daily usage. Anybody?
I tried vm heap bigger than 32mb too. But while running navigon it seems to me not much as a big improvement so i switched back.
The compcage thing will be the next thing im testing.
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I have to agree with you Whatever makes my phone "feeling" snappier and faster is good enough in my eyes!
You should really check Juwes Ram optimization thread in the Android development section for some serious performance gain. I flashed it yesterday in CM 7.1 Nightly 144 and the responsiveness boost is quite noticeable.

i agree the synthetic benchmarks are not that important its the daily use performance that mater to me

I have disabled compcache and enabled swap and my phone is snappier than 18%compcache may be Coz of compressing and decompression techniques that slow the process in compcache and scores 3.9 to 4.1 on linpack score with 576 MHz speed...
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vijaykirann said:
I have disabled compcache and enabled swap and my phone is snappier than 18%compcache may be Coz of compressing and decompression techniques that slow the process in compcache and scores 3.9 to 4.1 on linpack score with 576 MHz speed...
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Hmm i have a swap partition already made just in case and i might try it, but in theory a swap partition (even worse if it's a file) is much slower than the compressed cache due to the SD Speed limitations, unless we are discussing about class 10 cards.
anyone ?

Improve icecream Roms performance(ram usage)

hey guyz.i,ve been using Arconium ICS and i noticed Phone app and setting open terribly slow.so here is what i did to get them smoother.
just go to setting ,developer options and choose at most 2 processes from background procces limit bar.don,t choose don,t keep activities cause it will kill launcher every time.try and see for your selves.hope this helps

anybody else tried this?

use my touchscreen, responsiveness and battery tweaks from the android development subforum for xperia arc. i have been read the last post about the governor and the rampling too. i've been ggetting over 18 hours on an average already. (those tweaks were for the ics beta, i bet i can tweak it more).

I am having problems with some games like Backstab and real racing 2..they crash when they load..I think it's a matter of a driver issue and not related to RAM availability..

omarfaieq007 said:
I am having problems with some games like Backstab and real racing 2..they crash when they load..I think it's a matter of a driver issue and not related to RAM availability..
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games use a lot of ram. getting out of ram can cause FCs. (try reducing your vm heap to 20 and see what it does to the other apps )

Thanks for sharing bro, it just help to improve responsiveness a little bit. It's really annoying that when u tap the dialer and few seconds later it appear...lol

are u kerenl is doom v4?
orgain kerenl is slow

Guys, just supercharge your phone. Details here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1533044
It's working great for me on stock ICS and just wanted to share.
After you supercharge the dialer & sms apps only lag the "first" time you open them after a reboot. After that they open pretty much instantaneously (unless you run a massive app which uses all the phones memory) in which case it will lag the first time after closing the massive app.
You can bullet proof apps of your choice including dialer, sms, launcher etc.
For me the overall smoothness of ICS is noticable.

sss22213 said:
are u kerenl is doom v4?
orgain kerenl is slow
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yes.i OC to 1.4ghz

adielee said:
Guys, just supercharge your phone. Details here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1533044
It's working great for me on stock ICS and just wanted to share.
After you supercharge the dialer & sms apps only lag the "first" time you open them after a reboot. After that they open pretty much instantaneously (unless you run a massive app which uses all the phones memory) in which case it will lag the first time after closing the massive app.
You can bullet proof apps of your choice including dialer, sms, launcher etc.
For me the overall smoothness of ICS is noticable.
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This is definitely the way to go! Don't go crazy and bulletproof everything or else you'll end up with the same problem but definitely do the basics and you'll notice a difference for sure, without having to drop down to 2 background processes.

hootnath said:
games use a lot of ram. getting out of ram can cause FCs. (try reducing your vm heap to 20 and see what it does to the other apps )
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can u help me a little further??I don't know how to achieve that..thanks in advance friend

[Q] Best CyanogenMOD ROM For Gaming and High Preformance Tasking

What is your best recomendation for ROMs under the Cyanogenmod category for gaming and includes sd-ext and SWAP?

Undoubtedly "HyperDroid V 6.0" by Pongester....it turns your phone to a dual core one with a V6 powerplant!
Moreover it is exteremely fast, stable, bug free and daily use. Just give it a whirle you get what I mean.
Sent from my HyperDroid HD2 V6 using xda premium

arminvm said:
Undoubtedly "HyperDroid V 6.0" by Pongester....it turns your phone to a dual core one with a V6 powerplant!
Moreover it is exteremely fast, stable, bug free and daily use. Just give it a whirle you get what I mean.
Sent from my HyperDroid HD2 V6 using xda premium
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Haven't used it since v5 XD has there been much a difference?

KShion619 said:
What is your best recomendation for ROMs under the Cyanogenmod category for gaming and includes sd-ext and SWAP?
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arminvm said:
Undoubtedly "HyperDroid V 6.0" by Pongester....it turns your phone to a dual core one with a V6 powerplant!
Moreover it is exteremely fast, stable, bug free and daily use. Just give it a whirle you get what I mean.
Sent from my HyperDroid HD2 V6 using xda premium
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Definitely not, an ICS based ROM is the best e.g. NexusHD2. GB doesn't have full HWA and thus performance is not comparable to ICS.

Nigeldg said:
Definitely not, an ICS based ROM is the best e.g. NexusHD2. GB doesn't have full HWA and thus performance is not comparable to ICS.
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But as far as ICS goes, yes i see the performance increase in it, but it has many issues still, although subtle, it does have lag spikes, even on an overclock.

Ιcs has better scrolling,you can write or edit more easy a big document but the issue that "kills" me and i went back to gingerbread is video playing.Also yes it can play better some games from ginger but not all games are compatible with ics and for some games you must move between newer and older ics hwa gpu libs.Cause older libs have more lag when moving between menus and newer libs cause some games to crash after 3-5 minutes of playing
In gingerbread you can play 720p videos,flash videos over 240p without lag.I am afraid that if we ever be able to get jelly bean,these issues will continue to be there

clio94 said:
Ιcs has better scrolling,you can write or edit more easy a big document but the issue that "kills" me and i went back to gingerbread is video playing.Also yes it can play better some games from ginger but not all games are compatible with ics and for some games you must move between newer and older ics hwa gpu libs.Cause older libs have more lag when moving between menus and newer libs cause some games to crash after 3-5 minutes of playing
In gingerbread you can play 720p videos,flash videos over 240p without lag.I am afraid that if we ever be able to get jelly bean,these issues will continue to be there
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Did you also notice the battery drain on CM9?

KShion619 said:
Did you also notice the battery drain on CM9?
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Battery drain is pretty much the same between CM9 and CM7 from my experience. Most of the time I can easily get a full day out of ICS with around 40% left.

Me too.I can get about 2.30-3 hours of full use with open screen in both roms

I really do think that the ICS roms must be better. However, i cannot play a few games on them -_-
The first one is N.O.V.A. 2 HD And the second one is Asphalt 6 adrenaline
Any clues ? NOVA lags like hell... It's almost unplayable
And asphalt just keeps showing the incompatible error -.-
Thanks in advance for helping !

Nigeldg said:
Battery drain is pretty much the same between CM9 and CM7 from my experience. Most of the time I can easily get a full day out of ICS with around 40% left.
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Possibly needs a new battery? What settings you have on to save battery?:silly:

KShion619 said:
Possibly needs a new battery? What settings you have on to save battery?:silly:
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Not much really. Just have JuiceDefender and SetCPU installed to try to minimize drain when screen off. When the screen is on, I really dont bother doing anything other than reducing brightness. Its actually a lot better than you'd think, I watched inception for an or and a half and only lost 24% of my battery. I've found it to be really inconsistent though.

Nigeldg said:
Not much really. Just have JuiceDefender and SetCPU installed to try to minimize drain when screen off. When the screen is on, I really dont bother doing anything other than reducing brightness. Its actually a lot better than you'd think, I watched inception for an or and a half and only lost 24% of my battery. I've found it to be really inconsistent though.
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Ok, ill try that then ill see if i need a new battery, my HD2 commonly only last 2 hours with 1.6GHz to 96Mhz on conservative gov.