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Anyone using a class 10 card?

Hey. Just curious how many of you have replaced the stock 16gb class 2 sdcard with class 4,6 or 10. Can you chime in with your inputs on performance between these classes. I know the theoretical transfer speeds, but I am curious how they actually perform in day to day use. Would jumping from a class 2 to class 6 be noticeable, or a class 6 to class 10?
Thanks

I am interested to.
Have just upgraded to an Ebay 16gig Class 6. Speed is faster than a Class 2 but not sure if it is a Class 4 or class 6.
Tempted to buy a 8gig Class 10 but struggling to find a reputable source of these.
In case you don't know Class x denotes the write speed. Class 2 has a 2meg/sec. Class 6 has a 6meg/sec write speed. Also gt a increase in read speed. All must be good for the HD unless the Interface is slower than the card??

dusty_nz said:
I am interested to.
Have just upgraded to an Ebay 16gig Class 6. Speed is faster than a Class 2 but not sure if it is a Class 4 or class 6.
Tempted to buy a 8gig Class 10 but struggling to find a reputable source of these.
In case you don't know Class x denotes the write speed. Class 2 has a 2meg/sec. Class 6 has a 6meg/sec write speed. Also gt a increase in read speed. All must be good for the HD unless the Interface is slower than the card??
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From my reading and investigation, not many devices out there support such high speed, I'm thinking phone isn't one of the device that do. I would like to see someone do some testing and see if there is a difference on a HD2 between a class 6 vs class 10.

I didn't know they had a class 10, but I'm running a class 6 and I can tell the difference from the 16gb stock card. Loading Android is a lot faster too.
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I have a class 10... Its a great diference.

I've got a couple of 16Gig class 2s and a 4Gig class 10. I can certainly tell a difference. I haven't done any empirical testing but gut says it's almost twice as quick. The difference comes when you multitask, getting a couple apps open, app loading, etc.
The problem with the 4Gig is the obvious lack of size. I'm thinking of buying a 32Gig class 4.

xicko said:
I have a class 10... Its a great diference.
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between a class 6 and 10, is there still any noticeable improvements with the phone?

I want video evidence.

Lorddeff07 said:
I want video evidence.
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Agree! A video might help us to decide if it is worth buying a class 10 card.

bangsters said:
between a class 6 and 10, is there still any noticeable improvements with the phone?
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Looking at numbers alone, a class 6 is three times faster than a class 2 and a class 10 is five times faster than a class 2 so upgrading from a class 2 would appear to be a sure fire bet in both cases
In comparison a class 10 is only 1.6 times faster than a class 6.
So I think I will stick with my class 6 for now until class 12+ comes out.

So in conclusion do you guys think a faster SD card is necessory? because once xda team finish develop a perfect android rom i believe they are gonna make it a rom, in that case we would'nt need a faster SD card, But i really wonder if a faster SD card improves the performance? Can someone kindly provide a video for this ? Thanks ,,

class 10
I have a 16gb kingston class 10, compared to my Transcend 8gb class 6, not that much difference, compared to my Class 2 16gb that came with the phone? huge difference.

I'm now going out, to buy a 16GB classe 4 , i think is sufficient, given that in September Cttula will provide NAND, and the class will no longer important, and I'd rather have more space for my photos and videos, in vacation than a business card 8GBclasse10 faster.

Is the ETA for NAND September?

Nand speed vs. Class 10 card?
Anyone know what the read/write speed of the nand memory is as compared to the say the read/write speed of a class 10 card? I know it should be faster, but is it really that much faster?

bangsters said:
Hey. Just curious how many of you have replaced the stock 16gb class 2 sdcard with class 4,6 or 10. Can you chime in with your inputs on performance between these classes. I know the theoretical transfer speeds, but I am curious how they actually perform in day to day use. Would jumping from a class 2 to class 6 be noticeable, or a class 6 to class 10?
Thanks
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i got class 10 kingston 16gb,
transfers between pc and phone is up tp 6 mb/s read and write, but on the phone it self i think it's faster.
previously i had class 2, 8gb sandisk and it was alot slower...

how do I know which class the SD card is?

i use a class 10 card in my digital slr and it makes quite a big difference. i'm sure it would create a significant performance boost with android

pack21 said:
I'm now going out, to buy a 16GB classe 4 , i think is sufficient, given that in September Cttula will provide NAND, and the class will no longer important, and I'd rather have more space for my photos and videos, in vacation than a business card 8GBclasse10 faster.
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I dont find any microSD 16gb classe4 just, classe 2 and classe 10 - 100€
8gb classe4 i found for 20€

somebully said:
Is the ETA for NAND September?
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Yes
reocej said:
Anyone know what the read/write speed of the nand memory is as compared to the say the read/write speed of a class 10 card? I know it should be faster, but is it really that much faster?
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I think, it cant be comparable....starting by speed and smooth.

SD Card Class

Dear xda-community,
a simple question: Which classes do you consider reasonable and which are overkill? Class 2 , 4 , 6 or 10?
wbr RikuXan

RikuXan said:
Dear xda-community,
a simple question: Which classes do you consider reasonable and which are overkill? Class 2 , 4 , 6 or 10?
wbr RikuXan
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There are only very small differences in real-world performance in MicroSD cards no matter what class they are (unlike "normal" SD cards). Even a class 2 will give no problems with HD video recording. I've got a 16 GB Sandisk Class II. Cheap. No problems. What more could we want?

Agreed...
Phone's do not have great demands on memory cards, not even when writing at the highest video frame rate.
I have quite a few Micro SD's to choose and use.
Although I'm using a Sandisk 16GB Mobile Ultra which has a Class rating of 4, in real tests it performs much much faster but is quite really overkill for the Phone.
My recommendation, don't get a cheap Class 2 but go for a solid & reliable card.
It's worth paying that little extra on say a Sandisk Class 2 than a low rated unbranded Class 4/6.

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Dear xda-community,
a simple question: Which classes do you consider reasonable and which are overkill? Class 2 , 4 , 6 or 10?
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i use class 6
class 10 is probably over kill
don't buy anything less than class 4

Okay, so i suppose i'll get a class 4 or 6 card, depending on the current prices.
Thanks for your help
wbr RikuXan

AllGamer said:
i use class 6
class 10 is probably over kill
don't buy anything less than class 4
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As I have already mentioned it's not so much the class rating that matters but more the quality of the card.
The matrix of the Galaxy S's buffer run does not need anything great.
As such a reliable Class 2 would suffice.
As an example the Sandisk 32GB Class 2 easily provides acceptable video frame rates.
I recently ran this card and my present Sandisk 16GB Mobile Ultra card and visibly there was no difference in both saving camera video's or showing either a camera video or movie.

AllGamer said:
i use class 6
class 10 is probably over kill
don't buy anything less than class 4
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Why? Please let me see some benchmarks that can convince me there is any idea in buying a class 4 instead of a class 2.
Check these benchmarks: http://forums.whirlpool.net.au/archive/1468705
So, just buy a cheap 16 GB Sandisk class 2 - anything else will be a complete waste of money.

MoWa22 said:
Why? Please let me see some benchmarks that can convince me there is any idea in buying a class 4 instead of a class 2.
Check these benchmarks: http://forums.whirlpool.net.au/archive/1468705
So, just buy a cheap 16 GB Sandisk class 2 - anything else will be a complete waste of money.
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Again agreed.
The answer here is in the name Sandisk.
MoWa22 also fully understands and appreciates it's the brand what delivers and not so much the Class rate.
Sandisk cards often perform much faster than their same class counterparts.
Good link btw.

Class 4 or 6 is what you need class 2 is to slow.. you will notice the different between at class 2 and 4 in your phone go with 4 or 6 anything higher is over kill.

TriC_101 said:
Class 4 or 6 is what you need class 2 is to slow.. you will notice the different between at class 2 and 4 in your phone go with 4 or 6 anything higher is over kill.
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Amazing... Doesn't people read the thread before posting? It's not that big yet...

MoWa22 said:
Amazing... Doesn't people read the thread before posting? It's not that big yet...
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Yes..... I've had enough of this topic.
Catch you elsewhere.

32gb micro sd fast enough?

will the 32gb mirco sd class 2 be fast enough to run apps off the sd card without problems?? or should i sacrifice size with speed and get a 16gb class 4 or 6?

yes its plenty for this handset. many many many people already have theses cards in the droid and the evo and all have had much success with it.

Works fine for me.
Sent From My HTC Evo 4G Using Tapa Talk Pro!

I use a class 10, to reduce the current draw. If I were to run it a maximum speed it would be limited by the heat it would generate. So in affect it would be limited by the current it consumes. Not talking about leaks, but overall. Slower sd's are also limited the same way but consume their limit at slower speeds. Since the faster cards are limited (maxed) at higher speeds they consume less at slower speeds, because they are rated at uamps/read/write.

Engadget posted about a class 4 just the other day, due to my post count I can't link. But kingston does have one, even though it's much more expensive. If you're running out of room I would suggest only keeping vital media files with you, and using subsonic to stream anything else.

i wanted the extra space so i can use the phone as an ipod since my zune crashed

Class two is damn slow, I did in fact notice a good speed jump with my class 6
Sent from my EVO

You guys know where I Could Find a good 32gb or 16gb SD Card at a cheap price.. ??

ins0dus said:
You guys know where I Could Find a good 32gb or 16gb SD Card at a cheap price.. ??
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Got my 16gb on eBay for around 28! It is probably class 2 but I don't care lol

I bought one of THESE class 6, 16gb microSD cards, and it seems to be pretty good. No problems so far.

I'm using a class 2 to run apps off of and its plenty fast (also cause im to cheap to buy anything better lol)

Yeah class 2 should be totally fine
Sent from my HTC EVO 4G

tkirton recommends at least a class 4 for Dark Tremor. My G1 would crash on anything less than a class 6 when running apps2sd but that phone is a bit inferior to this one. Not sure if Google has a recommendation for Froyo a2sd.
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I picked this one up a week ago and its working perfect.
CENTON 16GB CLASS 6
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produ...37189&cm_re=16_gb_sdhc-_-20-237-189-_-Product

I got kingston 32Gb micro sd card for less then 40 on ebay from us seller it is class 4. It reads at 9mbs and it write speed is at 4 mbs.
http://www.engadget.com/2010/02/24/the-surprisingly-seedy-side-of-microsd-production/

[Q] Desire Z SD card class?

Hi,
Does anybody here knows which class is the 8gb micro sd card included in the Desire Z??

Not 100% positive on this but I remember reading somewhere that it was only a class 2 card... =/

I got a class 4 card, but seems to be a bit of lottery.
I've read that some got class 2.

Mine was 8 GB, Samsung, Class 2. And it got replaced right away with a 16 GB Class 10.

darthmelk said:
Mine was 8 GB, Samsung, Class 2. And it got replaced right away with a 16 GB Class 10.
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Is there any point in a class 10?
Can the Z handle it? I know the Pulse has a limit of class 6...
Also - nice card.

Damm I hope I get a class 4 but how can you know which class is the sd card? Does it say on it?

Yes typically the card will have the class printed on it.
Remember though the class is a measurement of the MINIMUM speed the card is capable of handling.
Ex: Class 4 can write at a MINIMUM of 4 mb/s. I have a kingston class 4, 8GB card that I have tested thourougly and it regularly writes at 8+ mb/s.
Not sure where you draw the line on what is overkill for an Android Device. I know on other devices, I.E. SLR Cameras, a slow/bad card can have a big impact on the way things run...

Came with a Samsung Class 2 8GB for me, replaced it with an San Disk 16GB Class 4.

DanWilson said:
Is there any point in a class 10?
Can the Z handle it? I know the Pulse has a limit of class 6...
Also - nice card.
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Yes, it can handle the Class 10. The only real benefit is when doing 720p video recording. Most of the time, anything over a Class 4 will feel the same in day-to-day usage (other than video recording).
The other advantage is that if you transfer files to the phone, it'll be somewhat faster.
Also, the card you get with the DZ, it show the class right on the card itself. In my case it was a Samsung 8GB MicroSDHC Class 2. Replaced with a Kingston 16GB MicroSDHC Class 10. <3
Here's a somewhat subjective read on the topic: http://pocketnow.com/android/does-using-a-faster-sdcard-make-your-phone-faster

I don't know if you can see the difference between Class 2 and Class 10 on the Desire Z. Maybe running some apps that install on SD Card is a little faster, also saving photos, browsing through MP3s, playing videos, etc.
When moving large quantities of data (bigger files), there is an increase in speed, e.g. 18 MB/s (Class 10) vs. 10-12 MB/s (Class 2). I expect the differencte to be the same with small files, but I haven't tested yet. Maybe it's not worth the double price tag, but I needed 16 GB and chose to go with the fastest option available...

Mine and everyone else I know with a Z or G2 came with a samsung 8gb class 2 card.
I have now put my 8Gb class 4 in, but I might look to get a bigger class 4 or 6 card soon.

Lennyuk said:
I have now put my 8Gb class 4 in, but I might look to get a bigger class 4 or 6 card soon.
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Mymemory is doing 16gig class 4s for 18 quid. I haven't put mine in my phone yet but i'll try to do a speed test over the wkend and post back.
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ddotpatel said:
Mymemory is doing 16gig class 4s for 18 quid. I haven't put mine in my phone yet but i'll try to do a speed test over the wkend and post back.
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ah cool, let me know.

Mine came with a Sandisk Class 4.

TheDeadCpu said:
I got a SanDisk Class 4 8GB.
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Indeed, today I finally got my Desire Z and got the same class 4 SanDisk 8 Gb card

buzmay said:
Indeed, today I finally got my Desire Z and got the same class 4 SanDisk 8 Gb card
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Same here.from uk, two weeks old. Sandisk clss4
-- sent from htc z using xda app

Mine also came with sandisk class 4.
Must be a different batch or something, as everyone on first release were samsung class 2 from what I remember...
Sent by my phone

Yeah sounds like they've switched to Class 4 cards now for new shipments.

ddotpatel said:
Mymemory is doing 16gig class 4s for 18 quid. I haven't put mine in my phone yet but i'll try to do a speed test over the wkend and post back.
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HOLD FIRE on mymemory. This new card is giving read speeds of 10 mbs but write speed only 1 mbs!!!!!!!!!! I need to test in my Hero to see what I get.
Can anyone recommend good speed test apps, for either android or to run off my Windows lappy?

I got a SanDisk Class 4, 8GB card with mine (NAM Unbranded/Unlocked Version)
Tested it and it writes at 5.21 mb/s and reads at 14.8 mb/s

32GB MicroSD Wait!!!

I recently picked up a 32gig MSD for my Evo as I kept running out of room on the 16gig card. I went from a 16GB Class 6 to the latest Class1 or 2 that SanDisk has. My phone takes around 3 minutes to boot now at best. Looking at gallery or anything like that is SLOwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww. If you are thinking about and have lots of pics/videos and use App2SD like I do, you will only be disappointed in the end results with the Sandisk card. Just sharing so others can save and wait for a real card.
Lisnup

Interesting...I have a 32gb sandisk class 2 card that is 3/4 full and I have very little if any delay...I only have 8.19gb space left.

MsRandall said:
Interesting...I have a 32gb sandisk class 2 card that is 3/4 full and I have very little if any delay...I only have 8.19gb space left.
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I have 11 gigs left at current and the only change I did was this card and I can say that performance of the gallery and boot time has severly suffered from what my old card gave me.

the lower the class number on the card, the slower the transfer rate. So your 16gb class 6 may have less room, but its way faster than a 32gb class 2. Dont know if this helps or not.

gsx62391 said:
the lower the class number on the card, the slower the transfer rate. So your 16gb class 6 may have less room, but its way faster than a 32gb class 2. Dont know if this helps or not.
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+1. I switched from the Class 2 8GB card that came with it to a Class 10 16GB card and the differences are staggering. I never benchmarked my class 2, but I get around 17.8 Mbps read/write on this one. On my 8GB card it would take about nine minutes to transfer a movie from my phone, now it takes under a minute.

that isnt always true that cards are just slower. The class system is a min spec system meaning they have to atleast hit this to make it they can be well over it depending on the chip used

Most people benchmarking the San disk 32gb cards are finding them to perform closer to class 4 then the indicated class 2. Check out the thread in the accessory section. Perhapse your card is defective.

Sandisk. The Yugo/Walmart of the mem card world. None of the pro photographers that shoot digital that I've met will even touch them.

lisnup65 said:
I recently picked up a 32gig MSD for my Evo as I kept running out of room on the 16gig card. I went from a 16GB Class 6 to the latest Class1 or 2 that SanDisk has. My phone takes around 3 minutes to boot now at best. Looking at gallery or anything like that is SLOwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww. If you are thinking about and have lots of pics/videos and use App2SD like I do, you will only be disappointed in the end results with the Sandisk card. Just sharing so others can save and wait for a real card.
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I've had a similar experience with my 32GB class 2 sandisk MSD.
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My 16gb class"6" sandisk POS clocks at class 4, barely. Got what I paid for at $30 I guess. (last time I buy that crap)
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My 32gb clocks right at class 4 just as its labeled, I like it seems to work just fine
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My 32gb. Class 2 SanDisk clocks in at Class 6... lol, I guess I got what I paid for. It suck BC I just paid for a 32gb Class 4 Kingston BC I thought it would be faster.
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