The title says it all, I am in the market to buy an HD2 and plan on using NAND android and maybe even dual boot with WP7.
Currently, I have an open choice between the T-mobile and the EU version. 3G data is not a problem for me, nor is the extra 1.5mm in length.
If I do get the T-mobile version, which I am leaning towards, will it be able to run all 512's based roms or work only with those specified or custom made?
I am also fairly certain I won't be able to find an SD card more than class 4 or 6, so will the slow SD card be a major hiccup when using App2SD or Ext2SD?
Also, just to confirm; 1024leo's have their own radios... right?
Thanks a lot for answering my questions, and I did use search extensively but couldn't find anything specific to my question.
Not sure about which radio WP7 uses.
But i am running a DFT rom that is compatible for both the EU and TMOUS device.
Currently,many chef have been clear what their build is made for.if it isn't specifically stated,then most are compatible on both devices.
you can find roms that is customised for tmous only.
also,you might want to read up on flashing for the tmous device.its a bit different from the eu device.
oh yeah,jus so you know,tmous devices have a sim lock on them.if you plan to use other carriers,then u have to get it unlocked first.
Is the unlock easy? How much time will it take?
I guess the extra 512mb of ROM is worth the extra hassle... I wouldn't be missing out on anything I suppose.
Thanks
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You will be able to run only ROMS made to use for 512mb devices. And even after installing most ROMS you might run out of space on your phone to install apps. So you will have to use ROMs with APP2SD compatibility. If I would be there in your place. I would definitely get 1024 version.
Once sim unlocked, will i need to unlock it again after installing custom ROMs or nandroid for that matter...
hayyaan said:
Once sim unlocked, will i need to unlock it again after installing custom ROMs or nandroid for that matter...
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Nope, you don't have to unlock it again....
Are you sure? Even after multiple flashes and SPL and radio flashes. I've been searching around, and people are mostly unsure about it.
hayyaan said:
Are you sure? Even after multiple flashes and SPL and radio flashes. I've been searching around, and people are mostly unsure about it.
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Well I am mostly sure about it. Once you unlock your phone, you don't need to keep doing it again and again.
If you have a choice of a TMOUS version, go for it. double the rom size is worth all the hassle...if you got a friend living in USA and is in contract with TMOUSA, you can ask him/her to get you an unlock code from TMOUS CSR for free. or else, it's gonna be about 20-30 bucks to unlock it
guys you know the cyanogenmod 7 android 2.3 rom for HD2 is it compatible with the EU version of the HD2? I wannna try it but I don't really want to screw the phone lol
I am a noob so sry for the noob question
Related
As the topic states, is there an easy way to eyeball a ROM and know if it will work with the TMO USA 1024/578 HD2?
Any advice would be appreciated (I'm sure a lot of us are wondering!)
Cheers,
Bale
im fairly certain by logical deduction that any rom will work fine, as long as you read the radio requirements carefully.
i deduce this because:
Telstra HD2 is different model number to EU HD2 and roms are interchangeable
TMO US roms work fine on the EU and Telstra HD2
and im sure i saw a post where someone was running a cooked rom on their TMO US HD2
but dont take my word for it, its just logical thinking
I tend to agree, however the HSPL cookers made a rather big note about compatibility and as someone who isnt exactly fluent in all the jargon yet I find myself wondering.
Also, the TMO USA HD2 has totally different specs than the EU version and so that might cause mem allocation problems etc...
yeah i just read the warning too, so ignore my comments
its better to be safe than sorry!
Really, not all ROMs are compatible.
During testing, not all ROMs working...
This happen because 2.XX ROMs have additional stuffs (like 1024 Mbytes NAND support), while 1.XX ROMs have not.
OK so it is a case by case basis and we will just have to try and see or have the chef let us know?
I assume that if I try a non-compatible ROM, my HD2 will just hang on the loader?
Balerathon said:
OK so it is a case by case basis and we will just have to try and see or have the chef let us know?
I assume that if I try a non-compatible ROM, my HD2 will just hang on the loader?
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FYI .. I just had a good friend load a non compatible ROM on his TMO HD2 and it is as dead as a fish outta water .... Won't boot at all ....completely out of commission.
So I'm waiting until someone specifies if a ROM is compatible ...
Thanks for the report
Good to know there is an easy way to know if a ROM will work or not (instead of having bugs and errors crop up on a seemingly functional ROM.
I think I saw EnergyROM is compatible. He just has to upload the file to his host. I'm going EnergyRom w/ CookieMonster when I get my phone
Can this ROM be installed with T-Mobile US version HD2 after HSPL'd?
HTC HD2_RUU_Leo_HKCSL_WWE_1.72.831.1_Radio_CRC_Signed_15.32.50.07U_2.07.51.22_2_Ship
Cotulla said:
Really, not all ROMs are compatible.
During testing, not all ROMs working...
This happen because 2.XX ROMs have additional stuffs (like 1024 Mbytes NAND support), while 1.XX ROMs have not.
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So are you saying that we should be safe with 2.xx roms for Tmo US or should we just wait and see if we can get a working list going. I would say we should start a list thread but i know if i do i wont be dedicated to keep it up if anyone wants to take that on.
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FYI .. I just had a good friend load a non compatible ROM on his TMO HD2 and it is as dead as a fish outta water .... Won't boot at all ....completely out of commission.
So I'm waiting until someone specifies if a ROM is compatible ...
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Ouch, did he return it? What is he going to do?
ok i have had many htc phones and flashed them all BUT the hd2 seems like there is a greater chance of bricking the phone so i finid it better to ask before i make a mistake so....i want to flash to this rom and want to know if the radio i have is ok and if everything else is right before i do i have read the noob starter guide but still confussedhere is the stuff i have
os 5.221889
rom 2.10.531.1
radio 2.08.50.08.2
ram size 576
flash size 1024
speed 1024 mhzmodel no t-mobile_ leo
the phone has been unlocked to use a different carrier and i dont want to lose that and when i go to the roms there is just alot of different options i have always liked the energy roms so can someone point me in the right direction
thanks
joe
joey1117 said:
ram size 576
flash size 1024
speed 1024 mhzmodel no t-mobile_ leo
joe
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Sounds to me that you do in fact have a TMOUS T8585, if not, why are you posting in the TMOUS forum??
the phone has been unlocked to use a different carrier and i dont want to lose that and when i go to the roms there is just alot of different options i have always liked the energy roms so can someone point me in the right direction
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if the phone is SIM unlocked, thats permanent. for someone who has done many rom flashes, thats pretty much common knowledge.
go here, do some (make that lots) of reading:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=653614
joey1117 said:
ok i have had many htc phones and flashed them all BUT the hd2 seems like there is a greater chance of bricking the phone so i finid it better to ask before i make a mistake so....i want to flash to this rom and want to know if the radio i have is ok and if everything else is right before i do i have read the noob starter guide but still confussedhere is the stuff i have
os 5.221889
rom 2.10.531.1
radio 2.08.50.08.2
ram size 576
flash size 1024
speed 1024 mhzmodel no t-mobile_ leo
the phone has been unlocked to use a different carrier and i dont want to lose that and when i go to the roms there is just alot of different options i have always liked the energy roms so can someone point me in the right direction
thanks
joe
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I received my SIMUNLOCK code from TMO like 2 days after I got the phone. I have personally flashed just about every rom in this section and mine is still SIM UNLOCKED. Hope this helps..
sorry for the confussion let me clear this up a bit
first to 2002wrex that said"if the phone is SIM unlocked, thats permanent. for someone who has done many rom flashes, thats pretty much common knowledge.
yes maybe common knowledge but ever heard of a little phone called the iphone? if you upgrade to the newest software it is locked to AT&T and the DEV team does not think they can unlock it ...ever so thats why i ask the question with the cell company's getting smarter i wanted to know if i would lose that code...you never know right?
and as far as the
"for someone who has done many rom flashes" i guess i should have cleared that up as well ....i started with the wizard then the tilt then the diamond i have flashed all of them many times from this site BUT in the link you gave me
"http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=653614" that i have read many times it says "IMPORTANT: DO NOT flash any Rom unless it states in the 1st post that its compatable with the 1024LEO or the chef confirms its safe to flash on a 1024LEO. If you flash a Rom with a Base version before 2.08 then you will most likely brick your phone. PLEASE BE CAREFUL!!" and not all roms say what radio is in it thats why i ask hope this clears things up a bit i was asking what would be a good first rom to flash on the hd2
thanks
joe
No sim unlock just install HSPL for TMO 1024 and choose any of the available roms. HSPL is needed to flash ROMS. There are other methods but HSPL is the best way. Also read about task29.
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sorry for the confussion let me clear this up a bit
first to 2002wrex that said"if the phone is SIM unlocked, thats permanent. for someone who has done many rom flashes, thats pretty much common knowledge.
yes maybe common knowledge but ever heard of a little phone called the iphone? if you upgrade to the newest software it is locked to AT&T and the DEV team does not think they can unlock it ...ever so thats why i ask the question with the cell company's getting smarter i wanted to know if i would lose that code...you never know right?
and as far as the
"for someone who has done many rom flashes" i guess i should have cleared that up as well ....i started with the wizard then the tilt then the diamond i have flashed all of them many times from this site BUT in the link you gave me
"http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=653614" that i have read many times it says "IMPORTANT: DO NOT flash any Rom unless it states in the 1st post that its compatable with the 1024LEO or the chef confirms its safe to flash on a 1024LEO. If you flash a Rom with a Base version before 2.08 then you will most likely brick your phone. PLEASE BE CAREFUL!!" and not all roms say what radio is in it thats why i ask hope this clears things up a bit i was asking what would be a good first rom to flash on the hd2
thanks
joe
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All the roms in this section Are T-mobile based roms so no worries here about the radio version as they will all be right, As long as you stay in this section then you are good.
As far as the jailbreak for the Icrap goes the sim unlock is a work around not a true unlock. If you get the code from ATT and enter it then it never has to entered again.
ok thanks guy i just wanted to be sure thanks for the info really helped
joe
joey1117 said:
sorry for the confussion let me clear this up a bit
first to 2002wrex that said"if the phone is SIM unlocked, thats permanent. for someone who has done many rom flashes, thats pretty much common knowledge.
yes maybe common knowledge but ever heard of a little phone called the iphone? if you upgrade to the newest software it is locked to AT&T and the DEV team does not think they can unlock it ...ever so thats why i ask the question with the cell company's getting smarter i wanted to know if i would lose that code...you never know right?
and as far as the
"for someone who has done many rom flashes" i guess i should have cleared that up as well ....i started with the wizard then the tilt then the diamond i have flashed all of them many times from this site BUT in the link you gave me
"http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=653614" that i have read many times it says "IMPORTANT: DO NOT flash any Rom unless it states in the 1st post that its compatable with the 1024LEO or the chef confirms its safe to flash on a 1024LEO. If you flash a Rom with a Base version before 2.08 then you will most likely brick your phone. PLEASE BE CAREFUL!!" and not all roms say what radio is in it thats why i ask hope this clears things up a bit i was asking what would be a good first rom to flash on the hd2
thanks
joe
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Entering a code into the phone which was generated for that specific phone is a little different that tweaking iPhone's Software to allow a SIM card other than AT&T to be used with the phone. HTC given the codes out so there is no reason to try to tweak the HD2 to unlock it with software.
whats the whole point of FLASH. i want to do that to my phone but what will it do to the phone. can someone explain to me about FLASH.
Are you talking about flashing a ROM? If so the point is to get the newest or most stable build of WinMo.
Go to the ROM section and start reading the stickies. If you have a T-Mob HD2 you will want to pay particular attention to what ROM you do flash. There are two versions of the HD2, the European version on the T-Mobile version. The T-Mob version has a full gig of internal memory and a 1 gig processor while the European version only has 512 of memory and a smaller processor. If you make the mistake of flashing the wrong ROM onto the wrong phone you have an expensive paper weight.
yeah im talking about flashing rom. does this help the phone on working fast?
yes it does.
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Are you talking about flashing a ROM? If so the point is to get the newest or most stable build of WinMo.
Go to the ROM section and start reading the stickies. If you have a T-Mob HD2 you will want to pay particular attention to what ROM you do flash. There are two versions of the HD2, the European version on the T-Mobile version. The T-Mob version has a full gig of internal memory and a 1 gig processor while the European version only has 512 of memory and a smaller processor. If you make the mistake of flashing the wrong ROM onto the wrong phone you have an expensive paper weight.
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Sorry to correct you, but the Tmous has also 576MB RAM instead of 1024MB RAM, the European version does have 448MB RAM default, but after flashing a Tmous radio the ram can be unlocked so i has also 576MB RAM. I think you are meaning ROM instead of RAM
For me it's the RAM / Random Access Memory that counts since it's the memory you need to use in operation in contrary to ROM / Read Only Memory which is only needed to store your OS/Bootloader etc.
And cpu wise they got the same Qualcomm Snapdragon 8250B chipset/cpu running @ 1Ghz.
Ow and TS, if you are asking yourself what a FLASH is ? please don't try it if you got zero knowledge/understanding/informing yourself about flashing (be it pc,psp,hd2 etc.) that won't be such a good idea
Take a look at these threads:
Flashing a ROM (International HD2)
Flashing a ROM (TMOUS HD2)
Flashing a new Radio ROM
Complete HD2 guide for flashing (Video's included)
It's a lot to go over, but if you are going to flash your device I highly recommend you know what you are doing. A mistake can mean a very expensive paperweight.
To answer you question on the "whole point" thing..
There are several reasons one might want to flash their device.
I flashed hspl2 at first because I didn't like T-Mobil's lame pink pre-bootscreen. Then more recently I flashed a new Radio ROM.
Many (perhaps most) people flash "cooked" ROMs built by other members of xda (or themselves) which include their favorite apps, tweaks, themes, lockscreens, etc. already built into the ROM. Custom ROM's can also include updates to the Winmo OS.
Another reason is to change the Radio. The Radio ROM (not the FM radio) is the software that controls how your device handles data and phone connections.
Many people, including myself, flash a different Radio. Personally, I have found that my battery life, signal, and data connections have dramatically improved after doing this. You might also need to flash a new radio if you are going to try out the new(ish) android port.
Ya sorry for the mistakes. Thought for some reason the Euro version had a smaller proc as well. As for the RAM-ROM thing ya just wasn't thinking as I typed.
thanks for the information guys. i have alot of reading to do. so u guys recommand for me to flash after i read the information???
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thanks for the information guys. i have alot of reading to do. so u guys recommand for me to flash after i read the information???
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Well what ROM you want to flash solely depends on what your wants/needs are. I personally prefer a clean 6.5.5 build (finger friendly/start buttons on bottom) and my current ROM is Cloudy 1.5
You will first need to flash HSPL3 before attempting to flash anything else. This will protect you from bricking your phone from a bad flash and also enables you to flash your phone from SD Card instead of USB cable and PC etc.
Once you have chosen your rom just stick the nbh file (rename to LEOIMG.nbh) onto root of SD and boot into loader.
Read all the needed info before attempting anything.
Hi Guys
I just got my T-mobile HTC HD2, and its used and unlocked, so I dont know if it's already has HSPL or not!! how do I know that?
the second thing; what happen if I installed by "mistake" an HD2 ROM that is not for T-mobile?
and does android froyo works perfectly on t-mobile hd2?
finally, is there a big different between the T-mobile HD2 and the orginal one? I know it has a 1024 MB Rom but is there a good reason to buy it over the orginal one, because I found a non Tmobile HD2 with cheap price and I am thinking to buy it for my brother.
take care
To find out if you have HardSPL applied, restart your device and hold the volume down button until you get to a three colored screen. Ass long as it says "COTULLA SPL" near the top you have HardSPL applied.
If you accidentally install a ROM that is not for the T-Mobile US HD2, it will brick your device and you will no longer have a working phone. Currently there is no way to repair such a device except through JTAG.
Android for the most part works, except for the sounds and MMS basically. Read the threads about Android for more info.
The difference between the Euro HD2 and the US HD2 is indeed the ROM size. The Euro one has 512MB of ROM, and the US has 1024MB of ROM. They ROMs are NOT compatable with each other, you MUST flash a ROM that is safe for the US HD2 if that is the device you have.
Thank you very much
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If you accidentally install a ROM that is not for the T-Mobile US HD2, it will brick your device and you will no longer have a working phone. Currently there is no way to repair such a device except through JTAG.
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Not quite true. If you accidentally flash a non tmous COOKED rom, then you are OK, because cooked roms generally dont contain a radio, and its the radios that kill. So the phone would hang on initial boot screen, but you could still enter bootloader and flash a new rom. Its only the official roms that contain radios, thats why so many people brick them trying to change the language, because they go for non tmous stock roms.
Thats what I mean, official ROMs cannot be mixed.
I just purchased an HTC HD2; which came with a dual boot of Windows Mobile and Froyo on the SD card.
I wanted to install CM7; but I'm new to the whole process and I have heard various methods of installing it; either on the SD card, NAND, or RAM?
What are the pro's/con's of each? Which would you recommend?
Go with NAND and MAGLDR.
RAM builds are kinda obsolete now.
SD Card.. uses more battery and cannot mount the phone as USB mass storage.
Latest ROMs, tweaks etc are in NAND.
NAND hands down.
dsmatrix said:
I just purchased an HTC HD2; which came with a dual boot of Windows Mobile and Froyo on the SD card.
I wanted to install CM7; but I'm new to the whole process and I have heard various methods of installing it; either on the SD card, NAND, or RAM?
What are the pro's/con's of each? Which would you recommend?
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I would recommend trying multiple different ROMs on SD (e.g. CM7, MIUI, Sense 3.0, Sense 3.5 etc.) on SD, then, once you've selected a ROM, flash a similar NAND ROM.
Thanks guys, I appreciate it. I've heard some rumors that NAND has some issues so I wasn't sure.
Is NAND the ROM?
Since I will most likely do a NAND flash, this would be the best guide right? (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=893948)
Also, the phone is currently SIM-Locked;I wont be getting the unlock code from the buyer for another day, would I still be able to flash the phone and THEN input the unlock code after without screwing up anything?
dsmatrix said:
Since I will most likely do a NAND flash, this would be the best guide right? (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=893948)
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yeah, that one guide is great.
I would personally advise you to try out the clk versions, it acts more like a native android device. Also, with clk you will be able to use clockwork mod recovery, which makes things a lot easier.
I'm using AmeriCanAndroid, and I couldn't be happier about it.
But anyway, for sure go for the Nand version, that means that android will be installed as the native operation system, formatting the internal memory and getting rid of windows mobile. You won't need it anymore.
P.s. Just to make things clearer: nand is installing android on internal memory, clk and magldr are types of bootloaders to use and install nand android through.
Sent from my HD2 using my fingers.
I would recommend using a NAND based ROM over an SD. Uses less battery and is smoother running, unless you just have to have WM. And if an issue arises, a NAND based ROM is easy to back up or change out to a different ROM. On your question on unlocking your phone, the process is independent of whether your phone is on WM or Android. The procedure to unlock the phone is based on the IMEI number of the phone and uses hidden features on the phone independent of the OS on board.
Thanks guys. I just had a few more questions,
Is the guide that I posted compatible with a T-Mobile version hd2?
In terms of flashing, are there any big things to be careful about to avoid bricking your phone? (radio, etc?). Would there be any way to salvage a phone if something were to happen?
dsmatrix said:
Thanks guys. I just had a few more questions,
Is the guide that I posted compatible with a T-Mobile version hd2?
In terms of flashing, are there any big things to be careful about to avoid bricking your phone? (radio, etc?). Would there be any way to salvage a phone if something were to happen?
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That's the guide I used to flash my T-Mobile US phone. So it should work for you as well. If something did happen to your phone, you can always flash back to WM. Follow the guide, you shouldn't find that you will brick your phone. As long as you don't flash the wrong radio. US phones use the 2.xx.50.xx versions and EU use the 2.xx.51.xx versions of radio. If you search for the radio thread, it will fully explain this and have the correct/latest radios available for download. Just don't mix them up and you won't brick your phone. Latest radio version for US phones is already in the guide that you posted.
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That's the guide I used to flash my T-Mobile US phone. So it should work for you as well. If something did happen to your phone, you can always flash back to WM. Follow the guide, you shouldn't find that you will brick your phone. As long as you don't flash the wrong radio. US phones use the 2.xx.50.xx versions and EU use the 2.xx.51.xx versions of radio. If you search for the radio thread, it will fully explain this and have the correct/latest radios available for download. Just don't mix them up and you won't brick your phone. Latest radio version for US phones is already in the guide that you posted.
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Thanks! The seller mentioned he flashed the latest radio, is there a way to make sure?
dsmatrix said:
Thanks guys, I appreciate it. I've heard some rumors that NAND has some issues so I wasn't sure.
Is NAND the ROM?
Since I will most likely do a NAND flash, this would be the best guide right? (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=893948)
Also, the phone is currently SIM-Locked;I wont be getting the unlock code from the buyer for another day, would I still be able to flash the phone and THEN input the unlock code after without screwing up anything?
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Actually, I would recommend this guide. The guide you posted doesn't involve CWM and is thus pretty much useless for modern ROMs.
And the Radio version should be in phone software info (if I remember correctly) under settings.
I think it doesn't matter as far as your sd card is fast enough! I am buying new Tmous HD2 since i don't have to make sd ext for sense Roms and they took 1.5 hours to install on my wwe HD2! Big advantage of sd build comes when you dual boot.
Thanks for all the advice guys. I'm a bit caught up with work so I wont try flashing it till this weekend, thanks again.
dsmatrix said:
Thanks! The seller mentioned he flashed the latest radio, is there a way to make sure?
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Go under Settings then About Phone and you should see a line called Baseband Version and should tell you after the underscore what radio you are using. Mine shows 2.15.50.14 which is the latest for a T-Mobile US phone.